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On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:41 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The original message? No, I haven't received it.
>
> On 6/15/2018 4:45 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>
>> Poll: Who has and hasn't received the email? Please reply, and we'll use
>> the honor system.
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:43 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oops. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that one has been resolved. I retract my
>>>
>>> prior
>>>>
>>>> CFJ, and CFJ "Proposal 8050 has been resolved."
>>>
>>>
>>> Gratuitous:  The email in question was delivered to my own inbox via the
>>> list
>>> reasonably quickly after I sent it.  I'm including the full headers below
>>> in
>>> case it helps interpret anything:
>>>
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>>> Subject: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 8050-8052
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>>>
>>>
>>> I resolve the Agoran Decisions to adopt Proposals 8050-8052 as follows.
>>> Quorum is 6 for all of these proposals.
>>>
>>> [Remainder of message cut]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:34 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Er, might want to check the Proposal # in the CFJ statement...
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll re-send the resolution to converge the gamestate in case it failed
>>>>> before.  I think the only things I did for zombies were
>>>
>>> announcements-of-
>>>>>
>>>>> intent so I don't think the time difference breaks anything (yet!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Aris Merchant wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just checked the unofficial OFF mail archive. The message got eaten
>>>
>>> on
>>>>>
>>>>> its
>>>>>>
>>>>>> way to me, and maybe some other people, but definitely went to,
>>>
>>> which is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> super scary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I CFJ "Proposal 1905 has been resolved."
>>>>>> Arguments:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Per CFJ 1905, non-receipt of a message by those who have arraigned to
>>>>>> receive messages via the forum is grounds to regard actions taken
>>>
>>> therein
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as invalid. My spam filter didn't eat it (I've checked, and it's
>>>
>>> also set
>>>>>>
>>>>>> never to eat Agora stuff) so it probably never entered my technical
>>>>>
>>>>> domain
>>>>>>
>>>>>> of control.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We really need to figure out these server problems ASAP.
>>>>>> -Aris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:06 PM Aris Merchant <
>>>>>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you ever resolve proposal 8050? I certainly can't find a
>>>>>
>>>>> resolution...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Aris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:09 AM Kerim Aydin <
>>>
>>> ke...@u.washington.edu>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You couldn't have anyway because PLEDGES CAN NO LONGER BE
>>>
>>> DESTROYED,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WITHOUT OBJECTION OR OTHERWISE.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They can't be destroyed at all because they're no longer assets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> Proposal 8050 - the only way for a pledge to end is to time out
>>>
>>> (and
>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> doesn't outright "destroy" it, it just makes it untracked and
>>>>>>>> non-punishable).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018, Corona wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> T.T I couldn't have acted on that intent any earlier than next
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuesday,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the dynasty will definitely be over by then.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~Corona
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Cuddle Beam <
>>>
>>> cuddleb...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I object to Corona’s attempt, because the dynasty isn’t over
>>>
>>> just
>>>>>
>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (will
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> be soon though).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 at 06:35, Corona <
>>>
>>> liliumalbum.ag...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Without objection I intend to retract every pledge I own.
>>>
>>> (the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BlogNomic
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> one is no longer useful, too)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ¯Corona
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:02 AM, Ned Strange <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> edwardostra...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Without objection I intend to retract each pledge I own.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Kerim Aydin <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ke...@u.washington.edu>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The below pledge list from the June 3 Referee Report
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> self-ratified
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Proposal 8050 taking effect.  The pledge dates (date
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tracking now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> required by the Notary) don't self-ratify, but I did go
>>>>>
>>>>> back and
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> confirm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Searching for 'pledge' in public archives back to March
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> revealed no
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recent pledges.  Pledges older than 60 days no longer
>>>>>
>>>>> require
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> tracking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> =the Referee, whose next report will be shorter=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PLEDGES (self-ratifying list of assets)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> == Trigon - Created 01 Jun 2018 07:35:31
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to use as much integrity as is possible
>>>
>>> whenever I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> random numbers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> == Corona - Created 27 May 2018 17:29:28
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to do all of the following in Blognomic's
>>>
>>> current
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dynasty:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -always ahoy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gams
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -call hunts most of the time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -not change derrick’s or Cuddlebeam’s position if they
>>>>>
>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> duties
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> adequately (scrubbing, joining hunts if healthy…)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -scrub the decks whenever I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am online and can do so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -generally work toward the preservation of the ship and
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lives of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sailors, and maximizing profits
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> == G. - Created 10 May 2018 15:39:57
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge that I will not make any bids on behalf of
>>>
>>> zombies
>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> May
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2018 zombie auction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===(below pledges were created prior to 01 Apr 2018)===
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quazie -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to give 1 Shiny to the first person who can,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly, with e-mail citations, explain what I did
>>>
>>> wrong
>>>>>
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jan 20th 2009 that has since led to me being a
>>>
>>> fugitive. For
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the explanation to be valid for this pledge, it should
>>>
>>> be
>>>>>
>>>>> fully
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> self contained, I should not have to go look up past
>>>
>>> rules
>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> order to understand the explanation (So please, include
>>>
>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> source info in the explanation).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V.J Rada -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge not to make any thread titles completely
>>>
>>> unrelated
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the email's content, nor use any agency or other
>>>
>>> mechanism
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attempt to gain control of any player at the exclusion
>>>
>>> of
>>>>>
>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other players.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gaelan (14 Sep 2017) -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to, for at least the next month, vote AGAINST
>>>
>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal that amends rules by providing new text in full
>>>>>
>>>>> unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the text of the rule is nearly entirely changed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nichdel -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to vote AGAINST on all proposals created or
>>>
>>> pended
>>>>>
>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuddle Beam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nichdel -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to Object to all intentions by Cuddle Beam
>>>
>>> that I
>>>>>
>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> object to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nichdel -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to give a trust token and 5 shinies (as soon as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible) to any other player who also performs the
>>>
>>> above
>>>>>
>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledges, except Cuddle Beam.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nichdel -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I too pledge to not refer to 天火狐 as Josh or Josh T.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I...pledge to fix the margins, if the issue is
>>>
>>> explained to
>>>>>
>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to deputize for the rulekeepor on October 19,
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017, if
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> still possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cuddlebeam -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to hook people up in a reasonable amount of
>>>
>>> time,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> according
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the message above, during what's left of the current
>>>>>
>>>>> month
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> November.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Referee's note: This pledge refers to the message
>>>
>>> listed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> athttps://www.mail-archive.com/agora
>>>>>>>>>>>>> business at agoranomic.org/msg30230.html]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V.J. Rada -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to give a win and a black ribbon to everyone
>>>
>>> who
>>>>>
>>>>> votes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "hopefully you guys all vote for this" if that passes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o - (Nov 7, '17)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to pay 5 sh. to the first person to publicly
>>>>>
>>>>> identify
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific bug I fixed in the Surveyor’s report this week,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> provided
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their answer includes either the word, some synonym for
>>>
>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> word, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> some observation related to the word, whose sha256 hash
>>>
>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> e2c2bf1fdea49d1d90f7e17ac158016862f213b42f88b760aee47f697205d83a,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I will disclose the word as part of the reward if
>>>
>>> it is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> collected.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to distribute the payment in a timely fashion
>>>
>>> if
>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CFJ
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> finds that CuddleBeam’s payment did, in fact, occur.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Referee's note: e's referring to a payment made by
>>>>>
>>>>> Cuddlebeam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accordance with the rule "Poetry Duel Challenge Writ",
>>>>>
>>>>> which is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject of a currently unnassigned CFJ. I would
>>>
>>> appreciate
>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys created pledges with the context included in them.]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trigon -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge that if I do not win the election for
>>>
>>> Rulekeepor, I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> will put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself up as a candidate for this election.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Referee's note: E's referring to the Fearmongor
>>>
>>> election
>>>>>
>>>>> on 6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nov
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2017]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V.J. Rada -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to, weekly, if I am Referee, publish a document
>>>>>
>>>>> called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Pledges you should withdraw", listing pledges that have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> already been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> completed or are impossible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> V.J. Rada -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge not to point any fingers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexis -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I pledge to transfer 5 shinies to the author of the
>>>
>>> first
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> proposal
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gives the Rulekeepor authority, under Cleanup Time, to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> additionally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, at least: missing periods at the end of
>>>
>>> sentences,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> inconsistently
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spelled game terminology, and pronoun use (including
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> inappropriate
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spivak pronouns in plural contexts).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corona -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also pledge not to use such pretentious words in the
>>>>>
>>>>> future.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OscarMeyr -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If nominated[Referee's note: for Herald?], I pledge not
>>>
>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> qualify.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>  From V.J. Rada
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>



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