Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Proposal Pool

2017-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant
Neither can I. P.S.S, could you please point me to the message? -Aris On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I can find no such message. What am I missing? > > -o > >> On May 15, 2017, at 6:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >> wrote: >> >> I have pended mine. > > >

Re: DIS: Officer Tech Chat

2017-05-15 Thread Nicholas Evans
I should add: I have labels for all office-related messages. I use filters to catch most of them, and I manually move things that the filters don't catch when I see them. The keywords I use for Registrar are: registrar, register, deregister, 869, registration, deregistration The keywords I use fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
On May 16, 2017, at 12:16 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 22:10 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> On May 13, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Quazie wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 09:57 tmanthe2nd . >> > wrote: >>> I register as a player. >>> >>> I give t

DIS: [Proto] Economic Victory

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
If we’d like to have some victory mode besides scams, and the rules toy of the season is Shinies, then that seems like a solvable thing. How’s this: * Any player may claim victory as the Miser of Agora by paying Agora some large percentage (70%? 80%?) of the Supply Level in a single payment, by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2017-05-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 22:10 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On May 13, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Quazie wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 09:57 tmanthe2nd . > > wrote: > > I register as a player. > > > > I give tmanthe2nd 1 Shiney if e tells us how e found agora

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 15, 2017, at 6:04 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > Less important than it might seem; a player who isn't doing > anything typically doesn't create any major gamestate differences from > a nonplayer. An idle player has, at least, a few meaningful effects: * An idle player draws a salary on mo

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Gaelan Steele
I’ve been watching Agora off and on for a few years now, and I too am saddened to see you go. Before you go, G., would you mind publishing the XML ruleset you mentioned that you had? I imagine it would make life much easier for whoever followed you. > On May 15, 2017, at 9:29 AM, Kerim Aydin wr

DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
There’s a related question: which offices have outlived their utility, and could be either eliminated or replaced with a lighter system? > On May 15, 2017, at 5:19 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > I intend to deputize for ADoP to publish eir report. > > Once I'm ADoP (assuming Gumball doesn't step in

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Proposal Pool

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
I can find no such message. What am I missing? -o > On May 15, 2017, at 6:12 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I have pended mine. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Machine-Readable Reports

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
On May 15, 2017, at 3:06 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I create the following proposal: > > Title: Machine-Readable Reports > AI: 1 > > Append the following text to Rule 2143: > In addition, officers SHOULD provide their reports in a machine-readable > format. This machine-readable report SHOULD

Re: DIS: Sort-of random question

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
On May 15, 2017, at 1:54 AM, Josh T wrote: > Random question: Is there a way to formalize the fact that I do not want my > name (as opposed to y nickname) to be an acceptable way to refer to me? I don’t believe so. There’s a fairly long tradition of allowing any recognizable name - look at the

Re: DIS: proto: stopping timing scams

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
I like the bones of this, and it effectively puts a stop to the race to get scam votes in at the end of the voting period. Given that that’s been behind two dictatorship scams in a row, I think something in this vein is probably merited. On May 15, 2017, at 1:33 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [Impl

DIS: [Draft] Deregistration and Assets

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
> In the interest of uniformity, couldn't we just add the Organizations thing > in until that separate rule is written? I'd prefer not to have that loophole > siting around, but you're the resident economics mastermind at the moment :) > (at the very least, you're secretary, which gives you uniq

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2017-05-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On May 13, 2017, at 3:01 AM, Quazie wrote: > > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 09:57 tmanthe2nd . > wrote: > I register as a player. > > I give tmanthe2nd 1 Shiney if e tells us how e found agora and what compelled > em to join. Is this sort of triggered action eff

DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

2017-05-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 16:19 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: > I intend to deputize for ADoP to publish eir report. > > Once I'm ADoP (assuming Gumball doesn't step in to stop me) I intend to > begin elections for each office, and would like to go through the > following process: > > 1) Right now and unti

DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

2017-05-15 Thread Aris Merchant
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > I intend to deputize for ADoP to publish eir report. > > Once I'm ADoP (assuming Gumball doesn't step in to stop me) I intend to > begin elections for each office, and would like to go through the > following process: > > 1) Right now and until t

DIS: Re: BUS: Super Election Season

2017-05-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote: > 1) Right now and until the first election begins, I would appreciate if > every player submitted eir opinions on the most difficult and the most > important offices. I still intend to catch up the online CFJs to fill in 2014-2015, as I got interested in u

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would be happy to take on some more offices as I have the time to do so. I am also sad to see a player leaving and I hope they will return when they are able. As to the problem in general, the problem could be solved possibly via real-life rewards and/or contract it out via AI/Computer or Mechani

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The idea is that Agora would pay for it, but I see your issue and will submit a revision soon, if others don't beat me to it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:22 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: >> On 05/15/17 10:57, Alex

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am currently registrar I believe. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote: >> While we have the efficiency of authoritarianism we might as well clean >> up a couple things. > > I find, to my surprise,

DIS: Re: BUS: Time to close the loopholes

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Thank you, oh powerful and benevolent dictator. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > I transfer 10 Shinies to Agora. (The victory from this scam seems like > enough of a reward without trying to cheat on pending costs at the same > time.) > >

Re: DIS: Confused

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I also figured it out independently, but knew that others also knew it and would work against the scam. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 22:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Unfortunately, he gave a little too much tim

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-05-15 at 11:55 -0500, Nic Evans wrote: > I do want to make it clear that the *only* reasons I allowed a junta > was 1) ais523 is a long-term player in very good standing, and 2) the junta > doesn't bestow any real power besides the ability to stall the game > indefinitely (and even the

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposal(s) 7850 (Attempt 1)

2017-05-15 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/15/17 11:46, Alex Smith wrote: >> I would make this a Cantus Cygneus, but I'm not even sure we have a >> registrar, >> or an ADOP to make a registrar, and I'm sure that taking on necessary >> duties as these it not actually what's on the Junta's mind. Enjoy >> your badges - maybe an officer

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Sort-of random question

2017-05-15 Thread Josh T
Thank you for your pledge/ I don't think it's something quite bothersome enough to make a proposal about, but I would like to express to all individuals that I would prefer to be referred to by my nickname. 天火狐 On 15 May 2017 at 11:27, Nic Evans wrote: > I don't think there exists any formal wa

Re: DIS: Confused

2017-05-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Sun, 2017-05-14 at 22:13 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Unfortunately, he gave a little too much time window, and Aris > noticed, and managed (maybe) to withdraw ais523's votes. I'm pretty sure Aris figured it out independently. Aris sent a "testing" message some time before my messages, which str

DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2017-05-15 Thread Nic Evans
I'm interpreting this as a conditional vote on 7849-7851, meaning it's a Present on 7849. If this had been written as "In all agoran decisions, currently up for vote, written by ais523:" then there'd be no vote on 7849. (I'm clarifying my decisions because I'm expecting CoEs all over.) On 05/09/

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7850-7851

2017-05-15 Thread Nic Evans
Final vote counts are coming shortly, but Quazie's vote remained and became a PRESENT. Conditional votes are interpreted at the end of the voting period, so it wasn't a FOR at any point. On 05/14/17 18:09, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sun, 2017-05-07 at 15:56 -0700, qoid.us (Agora's list server) wrote:

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
That conditional would most likely be invalid. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 4:27 AM, Quazie wrote: > If there is any doubt that Gaelan Steele is a player, then I give them 1 > Shiny just to exacerbate the doubt. > > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 23:33 Gaelan Steele wro

DIS: Re: OFF: Proposal Pool

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I have pended mine. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > [Just a polite reminder: these will be removed from the pool in one week, > unless you pend them or ask for an extension.] > > The proposal pool currently contains the following propo

Re: DIS: proto: stopping timing scams

2017-05-15 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I think it should be limited. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> >> >> Many voting scams in the past have end up in a race condition, >> dependent on voting on the last minute.

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2017-05-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 14 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > Let’s see if I can make a CFJ out of this. > > Gaelan As Arbitor, I'm saying this is unclear in "specifying a statement to be enquired into" - is it the whole sentence, or the term 'this'? or maybe Gaelan is making a 'statement', referred to by 'this'