Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > The detail script (draws.php) has a 30-day cutoff, but doing that in > the summary script would generally cut off mid-week.  The messy corner > case occurs when the time period crosses a year boundary.  Thinking > about it, I should be able to ma

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> To be more specific: Â Each draws_by_week.php script works correctly, as >> far as it goes. Â What they is a "leave out data more than X weeks old" >> cutoff; instead, they include every week from (hardcoded start date) to >> (e

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > To be more specific:  Each draws_by_week.php script works correctly, as > far as it goes.  What they is a "leave out data more than X weeks old" > cutoff; instead, they include every week from (hardcoded start date) to > (end of the most recent w

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> (This goes back to September 21, the first full week in which the >>> current "1 draw per interested case" clause was in effect. Â draws.php >>> goes back 30 days from today

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> (This goes back to September 21, the first full week in which the >> current "1 draw per interested case" clause was in effect.  draws.php >> goes back 30 days from today's date.  Side note:  

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > (This goes back to September 21, the first full week in which the > current "1 draw per interested case" clause was in effect.  draws.php > goes back 30 days from today's date.  Side note:  computing week-based > cutoffs is more tedious than it s

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
I wrote: > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/draws_by_week.php [snip] > (This goes back to September 21, the first full week in which the > current "1 draw per interested case" clause was in effect. draws.php > goes back 30 days from today's date. Side note: computing week-based > cutoffs is mor

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Draws earned (1 per case) >> http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/draws.php >> -- >> Sun 25 Oct 10:26:55 Â 2718 coppro >> Sun 25 Oct 11:28:24 Â 2723 Murphy >> Sun 25 Oct 11:28:24 Â 2722 Murphy

DIS: Re: BUS: z->inf

2009-11-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, comex wrote: > Well, *most* definitions in contracts. You're most likely right: I started to write mine as an act-on-behalf and then wondered if it was necessary to do so and dropped it, having that specific legal mechanism definitely makes it stronger. -G.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Docket

2009-11-17 Thread Sean Hunt
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Draws earned (1 per case) > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/draws.php > -- > Sun 25 Oct 10:26:55  2718 coppro > Sun 25 Oct 11:28:24  2723 Murphy > Sun 25 Oct 11:28:24  2722 Murphy > Sun 25 Oct 11:28:24  27

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 6567-6568 and 6570-6580

2009-11-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/11/17 Aaron Goldfein : > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Aaron Goldfein > wrote: >>> 6578  1   1.0  Yally             Green    Deprioritize History >> >> CoE: This proposal's chamber is Red. >> > > This time to the public forum. > Admitted, but it's not really a CoE but rather identifying s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: z->inf

2009-11-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Pavitra wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> 2. If a legal construct (e.g. rule or contract) creates a platonically >> infinite process that functions "instantaneously" without finite time >> delay when is triggered by a single (finite) event, it can in fact lead >> to an infinite

DIS: Re: BUS: z->inf

2009-11-17 Thread Pavitra
Kerim Aydin wrote: > 2. If a legal construct (e.g. rule or contract) creates a platonically > infinite process that functions "instantaneously" without finite time > delay when is triggered by a single (finite) event, it can in fact lead > to an infinite result. This was never subject to CFJ that

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 6581

2009-11-17 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > There does not exist a instant of time t at which you could call a > CFJ for which the statement "I have cast an infinite number of votes" > would be true.  -G. n.b. (you replied in plaintext, so I'm not sure if you saw it) that was a HTML ma

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 6581

2009-11-17 Thread Pavitra
Ed Murphy wrote: > c. wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn >> wrote: >>> NUM II AI SUBMITTER CHAMBER TITLE >>> 6581 1 1.0 G.* GreenBirthdayland >> >> I vote FOR an infinite number of times. > > I'm treating this as ineffective because

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 6581

2009-11-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, comex wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>> I vote FOR an infinite number of times. >> >> I'm treating this as ineffective because you couldn't write it >> out individually. > > Sure you can: > > I vote FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FO >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2735 assigned to Yally

2009-11-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: >> CoE: This CFJ may not exist. Murphy's conditional initiation of a CFJ >> probably failed on the basis that the conditional was not obvious to >> evaluate. > > Denied. Conditional actions in general don't have this sort of formal > standard

DIS: Re: BUS: Definitions

2009-11-17 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > I zoop a CFJ on the statement "This is a CFJ." > > Arguments: zooping isn't really defined in this context, but most > Agorans have a basic idea of what it's meant to mean. Given that I could > just create a CFJ by announcement, what happens here? ??? It's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2735 assigned to Yally

2009-11-17 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 11:20 -0500, comex wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, ais523 wrote: > > CoE: This CFJ may not exist. Murphy's conditional initiation of a CFJ > > probably failed on the basis that the conditional was not obvious to > > evaluate. > > As much as I wish this were the ca

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivation

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:37 AM, ais523 wrote: >> (White ribbons appear to be intended as a reward for >> continuous registration...) > > Mine was a reward for bribing you, but I'm happy to bribe someone > else. I'm not sure why Murphy hasn't yet. Name your price, folks, I've g

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2735 assigned to Yally

2009-11-17 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM, ais523 wrote: > CoE: This CFJ may not exist. Murphy's conditional initiation of a CFJ > probably failed on the basis that the conditional was not obvious to > evaluate. As much as I wish this were the case, precedent is that conditions whose truth values are not

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Definitions

2009-11-17 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 08:07 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > I zoop a CFJ on the statement "This is a CFJ." > > > > Arguments: zooping isn't really defined in this context, but most > > Agorans have a basic idea of what it's meant to mean. Given that I could > > just create a CFJ by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 6581

2009-11-17 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> I vote FOR an infinite number of times. > > I'm treating this as ineffective because you couldn't write it > out individually. Sure you can: I vote FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FOR FO -- -c., who isn't very serious

DIS: Re: BUS: Definitions

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > I zoop a CFJ on the statement "This is a CFJ." > > Arguments: zooping isn't really defined in this context, but most > Agorans have a basic idea of what it's meant to mean. Given that I could > just create a CFJ by announcement, what happens here? Gratuitous evidence: "Zooping a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Boilerplate!

2009-11-17 Thread comex
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Doesn't need to be Power>1 IMO. I really hate having that kind of rule power-1. I still give credence to the argument that conditional votes never worked because R2127's definition of 'clearly specified' is unreasonable, and its power is too lo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivation

2009-11-17 Thread ais523
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 07:40 -0500, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:37 AM, ais523 wrote: > > (White ribbons appear to be intended as a reward for > > continuous registration...) > > Mine was a reward for bribing you, but I'm happy to bribe someone > else. I'm not sure why Murphy

DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivation

2009-11-17 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:37 AM, ais523 wrote: > (White ribbons appear to be intended as a reward for > continuous registration...) Mine was a reward for bribing you, but I'm happy to bribe someone else. I'm not sure why Murphy hasn't yet.

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2734 assigned to Murphy

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
> === CFJ 2734 (Interest Index = 0) > > Publishing exactly one report that is not in plain text is the > Class 2 Crime of Making My Eyes Bleed. > Assigned to Murphy: (as of this message) Interpretation: * TRUE if the definitio

DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivation

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> I intend, without objection, to make Normish Partnership 2 Inactive. >> I register. I Object. >> >> --Wooble > For each variety of Ribbon other than Indigo, I intend, without > objection, to

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposal 6581

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
c. wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> NUM II AI SUBMITTER CHAMBER TITLE >> 6581 1 1.0 G.* GreenBirthdayland > > I vote FOR an infinite number of times. I'm treating this as ineffective because you couldn't write it out indiv

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Boilerplate!

2009-11-17 Thread Ed Murphy
coppro wrote: > comex wrote: >> I submit the following Proposal (AI=3, II=0) and make it Distributable: >> Boilerplate! >> { >> Create a new Power-3 rule reading: >> >> When an eligible voter on an Agoran decision attempts to cast >> ballots without explicitly specifying the number of

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of proposals 6567-6568 and 6570-6580

2009-11-17 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
2009/11/17 comex : > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn > wrote: >> This distribution of proposals and the subsequent assigning of ID >> numbers initiates the Agoran Decisions on whether to adopt proposals >> 6567-6568 and 6570-6580. The eligible voters for these proposals are >> the