Re: [AFMUG] BDC

It is on top of the current Form 477 requirements currently. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net Create Wireless C

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

As a ISP you are required to do so.. Just a FYI.. Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com Need MikroT

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

I wouldn't say it is on top, I'd say it is in parallel. Same information in two formats on two filings. (Though the 477 has voip because the FCC has a huge hard on for phone lines). On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 7:14 AM Dennis Burgess wrote: > It is on top of the current Form 477 requirements current

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Yeah, it's a stupid requirement s most EE PEs don't know jack about wireless and probably less about fiber. I happen to know a couple guys who bothered to get their PE, but I know I never did simply because there wasn't even a test for what I do. They want you to take the power systems and control

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

I was in the same boat. They had a presentation for the EIT program (engineer in training) which I guess you had to do if you wanted to sit for the PE exam later after you got your work hour qualification. I kinda wish now I had done it but I would have never worked for a PE. Like you I was a

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Would have never worked “as” a PE. Moreover, you are exposed to liability if you stamp something. From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 9:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC I was in the same boat. They had a presentation fo

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

I could get my PE but I have zero interest in relearning all of the EIT (renamed something else now) that is part of the book exam. But to your point - nothing in my EE had any specific relevance to what we do on a day to day basis. Fiber was a curiosity at the time, and phased array antenna

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Yeah they are allowing that for the next 3 cycles. After that, we'll see. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 10:35 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I could get my PE but I have zero interest in relearning all of the EIT > (renamed something else now) that is part of the book exam. But to your > point - nothing

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Agreed, and that is why they are expensive. They aren't just stamping something without review and knowing what it is. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 10:34 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Would have never worked “as” a PE. Moreover, you are exposed to liability > if you stamp something. > > *From:* Ch

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

I can understanding the FCC wanting someone to hang for submitting puffed up coverage info. They think this is going to guarantee accuracy of the results and prevent any challenges. If there are challenges then it will pit PE against PE. Not so sure this is going to accomplish what they want.

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

This is 47 CFR 1.7004: (d) Providers shall include in each Digital Opportunity Data Collection filing a certification signed by a corporate officer of the provider that the officer has examined the information contained in the submission and that, to the best of the officer's actual knowledge

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Yeah, there has been a lot of discussion about this in the 2nd and 3rd report and orders. They have said it is a PE requirement except for the 3 cycle waiver. Good luck arguing with them otherwise. I hope it gets changed. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 11:43 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > > > This is 47 CF

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

What if you don't have towers? ;-) One of my hats is fiber and DSL. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cameron Crum" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, July 21

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

*LOTS* of bad submissions from LOTS of companies, big and small, over the years. It all needs to stop. I'm not sure this is the right way, but it's the way we're apparently going down. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Mike are you asking me about the program or just a general question about towers? If general question, then you just do a spatial intersection between your buffered fiber routes or a polygon that surrounds all the homes you pass and the address data they send. Pretty easy if you know how to use a s

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

On 7/22/22 10:16 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Mike are you asking me about the program or just a general question about towers? If general question, then you just do a spatial intersection between your buffered fiber routes or a polygon that surrounds all the homes you pass and the address data they

[AFMUG] Type of Fiber to pull through Poly

I need to pull 12 strand fiber through a 1.25" poly. About 1500' and 4 handholes. It's been a couple years since we've done physical fiber installation underground, and that was mostly 128 strand. Should I get a flat drop cable, or would a different type be better? Flat vs round? The handho

Re: [AFMUG] Type of Fiber to pull through Poly

Flat drop would be fine for this, use tonable if you need a locate method. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:27 PM Nate Burke wrote: > > I need to pull 12 strand fiber through a 1.25" poly. About 1500' and 4 > handholes. It's been a couple years since we've done physical fiber > installation undergroun

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Well if you only had fiber at one address then you would only submit that one address. No need for a polygon. But yeah hardwired services like fiber or cable or DSL obviously know which homes they pass. You just have to make sure that you identify the addresses in the BDC fabric file. The easiest w

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

On 7/22/22 10:57 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 7/22/22 10:16 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: Mike are you asking me about the program or just a general question about towers? If general question, then you just do a spatial intersection between your buffered fiber routes or a polygon that surrounds all t

Re: [AFMUG] Type of Fiber to pull through Poly

Yes and pull and extra one or an extra mule tape at the same time. -Original Message- From: Chris Fabien Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 12:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Type of Fiber to pull through Poly Flat drop would be fine for this, use tonable

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Yeah. There are probably multiple addresses at a big building like that but maybe not. If that's it then yep, just a polygon around it or find the address in the fabric file, then see if there are others. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 1:39 PM Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 7/22/22 10:57 AM, Seth Mattinen

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

I think a fake PE stamp is the way to go... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 1:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC Yeah. There are probably multiple addresses at a big building like that but maybe not. If that's it then yep, just a polygon around i

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Seems risky. $15000 fine and possibly a federal forgery charge if they find out. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I think a fake PE stamp is the way to go... > > *From:* Cameron Crum > *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *S

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

He said he was legit. Worked out of his car... From: Cameron Crum Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 3:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BDC Seems risky. $15000 fine and possibly a federal forgery charge if they find out. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:40 PM Chuck McCown v

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

He's the Lincoln PE    or the Pontiac PE On 7/22/22 2:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: He said he was legit.  Worked out of his car... *From:* Cameron Crum *Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2022 3:11 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BDC Seems risky. $15000 fine and possib

Re: [AFMUG] BDC

Yugo PE Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 22, 2022, at 9:31 PM, Robert wrote: > >  He's the Lincoln PEor the Pontiac PE > > On 7/22/22 2:45 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> He said he was legit. Worked out of his car... >> >> From: Cameron Crum >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2022 3:11 PM >> To: