Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

Sorry, I read it wrong. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 7:52:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bandw

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

TBW reported on it two days ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Andreas Wiatowski" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:14:27 PM Subject: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

Potentially over 100 GB. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:37:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Band

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

*nods* They're pushing everyone to IXes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cassidy B. Larson" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 8:53:23 PM Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I relate to "crazy explanations".  A lot of the 2nd rate IT crowd stays employed by not admitting when they don't know something. Always hit the client or boss with techno babble and they'll think you're smart, meanwhile failure to admit that their inferences have no underlying factual basis pr

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

They are pushing everyone to PNIs not IXs they have taken routes off IXs. Erich Kaiser On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 7:54 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > *nods* They're pushing everyone to IXes. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] Bandwidth / Usage

Both may be true (and I assume they are). As an operator of an IX-hosted Akamai node, I have been in discussions with Akamai about capacity planning for the migration of lower volume in-ISP nodes onto our IX node. More servers, power and space for more servers, more cache fill, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

About 3 months ago I had an Rb2011 "lock up" the SFP port. Changed SFPs, patch cables, etc. A simple power cycle fixed it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:24 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I relate to "crazy e

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

We have two Cisco 6509's that have been running for probably 15 years.  We've replaced one faulty power supply, but there was no downtime because it was a redundant PSU.  Never rebooted, no "stuck" ports, no crashing.  I know they obviously have bugs because there are bug fixes listed in their

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

For basic Routing/Queueing Tik seems to work remarkably well for the price/power draw. The more complex the config, the more issues might pop up, but I think that's true of anything. I will admit that the Cisco's that I still have in the network just continue to crank along. Some of my 3550'

[AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

Why isn't there a pkg3 file for every software release? I'm getting ready to change some 1000 Ap's out to 3000 AP's and now I have to manually log into and update every SM to bring it to the current version? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.co

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

cnmaestro is the way of the future... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Nate Burke wrote: > Why isn't there a pkg3 file for every software release? I'm getting > ready to change some 1000 Ap's out to 3000 AP's and now I have to > manually log into and update every SM to bring it to the curre

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

Yes, but I'm not quite there yet. On 3/11/2020 10:15 AM, Joe Novak wrote: cnmaestro is the way of the future... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Nate Burke > wrote: Why isn't there a pkg3 file for every software release? I'm getting ready to change some

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

prism From: Joe Novak Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:15 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages cnmaestro is the way of the future... On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Nate Burke wrote: Why isn't there a pkg3 file for every software release? I

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

CRS125 may be marketed as a “switch”, but CPU and RAM are comparable to several RB series “routers”. I think RB2011 is one of those. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 8:24 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups I relate to "crazy expla

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

Yeah, I think it's actually the exact same CPU as the 2011... which isn't exactly great compared to the newer Mikrotiks, but it's certainly capable of working as a router. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:09 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > CRS125 may be marketed as a “switch”, but CPU and RAM are comparable to

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

For some reason their test results show 20-40% higher maximum throughput for the 2011 than the CRS125. I recognize that they have the same CPU and RAM, but there must be more to it. .or maybe the test procedure wasn't consistent I suppose. On 3/11/2020 12:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: CRS1

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I think that must have to do with how the CPU is connected to the switch. The test results actually are the same for all of the 512 and 64 byte tests... it's just that the CRS appears to be limited to a maximum of 983.7 Mbps. Probably has something to do with the fact that there are two separate sw

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

we spent a ton of money on that, never got it working, even with support On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:47 AM wrote: > prism > > *From:* Joe Novak > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 9:15 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages > > cnmaestro is the way

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

Also this Joe Rogan podcast episode #1439 is a great source of information without all the spin. https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw -Sean On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:16 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > The message I sent had a link to the about page of the journal article. > > Here’s the PDF: > > https://onl

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages

I was being a bit tongue in cheek. Was never a fan of prism. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 10:58 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EPMP CNut Packages we spent a ton of money on that, never got it working, even with support On Wed, Mar 11, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I seem to remember there is a certain CPU load to manage all the switch ports. Not sure if it depends on whether they are all active. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 11:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups I t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

Here is more non-political information on what we know so far. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid19-repurposed-treatments-drugs bp On 3/11/2020 10:16 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Also this Joe Rogan podcast epis

[AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the safety of everyone. Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out. I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we should all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

No. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sean Heskett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" , "Claude Aiken" , "Members" , "Trina Coffey" , "WISPA General List" Sent: Wednesday, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Well, hell then. Im going to start cancelling things and asking people to pay my way On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:59 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the > safety of everyone. > > Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pul

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the > safety of everyone

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

There are one or two cases in the Dallas area and one or two cases in my area.  Seems like a wash.  I'm gonna roll the dice this time, but after next week I'm not traveling. On 3/11/2020 1:58 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the safety

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

"If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go." IMHO, it isn't about you, it is about being a responsible member of society. I'm not judging, or saying we are at that point, but there is a point at which the responsible thing to do is cancel large gatherings to flatten the curve. On Wed

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Better not make contact with anyone ever then, I guess. At what point do we say viruses should halt contact to do the responsible thing? At what point do we end said halt? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:1

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

What should be canceled is the hysteria going on around this. That's all I've got to say about that . . . On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > > I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the safety > of everyone. > > Thank you to Sonar For their brave dec

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Breaking down the infrastructure of society over fear mongering is not being a very responsible member of society at all. This didnt happen during swine flu, and we made it though it On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:19 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > "If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go." >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

I like this better. So it looks like we are in a Global Pandemic now.   Or as Trevor Noah has it, a Pandumbic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcEnG7qxnLY bp On 3/11/2020 10:16 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: Also this Joe Ro

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Canceling or rescheduling a conference is by no means "Breaking down the infrastructure of society". On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Breaking down the infrastructure of society over fear mongering is not > being a very responsible member of society at all. This didnt happen

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

youre either a part of society, and your actions are part of that society, or youre not. one action is a part of the whole. you dont get to sit on 2 sides of the fence at once. the oceans just a bunch of drops of water. so yeah, you are breaking it down On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:35 PM Carl Peterso

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I have 4-5 across my network currently in this phase. OSPF is up and it's routing and passing traffic, but not monitoring, no winbox or ssh access. A bunch of the services hang. I have noticed if I catch them starting I can reboot before it comes inaccessible. It's only happening with RB4011s (our

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

no WISPAmerica -> WISPs lose opportunity to gain knowledge and buy new products -> WISP industry stagnates and becomes confused -> slowdown and later failure of rural and underserved internet access -> rural and underserved areas can't act like Karens on Facebook or obtain pornography -> utter coll

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

https://www.flattenthecurve.com/ On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett wrote: > I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the > safety of everyone. > > Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out. > > I know this would be a hardship for WIS

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

Yeah Trevor nailed it with that segment lol. Here’s another good resource https://www.flattenthecurve.com/ On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:32 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I like this better. So it looks like we are in a Global Pandemic now. Or > as Trevor Noah has it, a Pandumbic. > > https://www.yout

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hvia4VtxJ1AjJZaTv40aive3k79kdTmOfjt_vGkGz7o4XuY4ZnRO02-Y#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 [image: image.png] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 1

[AFMUG] OT test please

We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. Could the borg see if our site is working properly please? https://www.mccowntech.com https://www.mccowntech.com/technology-products/-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

Just loads the header. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:23 PM wrote: > We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. > > Could the borg see if our site is working properly please? > https://www.mccowntech.com > https://www.mccowntech.com/technology-products/ > -- > AF mai

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

"The WISP industry is a strong and resilient one. We’re dedicated and fearless. Attending WISPAMERICA sends a strong signal to others in the communications industry, policymakers and your communities that you will remain strong even in light of the day’s loud and oftentimes distracting news coverag

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Yup great site josh! We are about 9 days behind Italy. The cases grow exponentially every day and what will happen is our hospitals have no surge capacity. 20% of the people who get it will need ICU level of care. There isn’t capacity for that unless we flatten the curve. The same number of pe

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

Neither link opens correctly from here. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 2:23 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT test please We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. Could the borg see

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

Loading fine here. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:23 PM wrote: > We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. > > Could the borg see if our site is working properly please? > https://www.mccowntech.com > https://www.mccowntech.com/technology-products/ > -- > AF mailing l

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

Dang,, that is what Josh is seeing too. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT test please Just loads the header. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:23 PM wrote: We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks goo

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

Same here On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:27 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > Just loads the header. > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:23 PM wrote: > >> We had some issues. Maybe it is fixed. Looks good to me but not to Josh. >> >> Could the borg see if our site is working properly please? >> https://www.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

Not sure if anyone posted a link to this site before but I find the data informative and interesting to compare specific country data. I don’t recall the source right now but I ready recently that the death rate of 3.6% in China is an overall rate but almost all of the deaths have been in 2 pro

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Title: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Really guys you have to spew this BS.  Were going to be like Italy in a few days, why?  How is making this crap up helping anything? First of all we are not behind Italy.  Italy is behind us.  First case in US was reported on 1/19.  First case

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Did you see the graph? Infection count is flat and recovery numbers have almost caught up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 3:30 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Yup great site josh! We are about 9 days behind Italy.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

That graph is for mainland China numbers, i believe. Isn’t it? On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:07 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Did you see the graph? Infection count is flat and recovery numbers have > almost caught up. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] OT test please

ive never seen cactus porn before. WTH are you getting into over there at mccowntech? On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:32 PM wrote: > Dang,, that is what Josh is seeing too. > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 1:27 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I've had 4011's lock up a few times... I think I may have had it happen on an RB1100AHX4 as well, but I'm not sure about that... in one case, I replaced an 1100ahx4 with a 4011, and I know that happened there at least once, but I don't remember if it was before or after it was replaced. That wouldn

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbyPW8lJX2E On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:29 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Yup great site josh! We are about 9 days behind Italy. > > The cases grow exponentially every day and what will happen is our > hospitals have no surge capacity. 20% of the people who get it will

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

this really is the only graph that matters if youre picking just 1 [image: image.png] On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:18 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbyPW8lJX2E > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:29 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Yup great site josh! We are about 9 days behind

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

The chinese chart showed an exponential growth for a few weeks then it did a decline, almost an exponential decay type of curve. But I agree, WISPCON is gonna decimate the industry... so it would be good for all of you to attend... I will stay back to take care of things... From: Sean Heskett

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Most people interpret data to mean what they want it to mean……. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:07 PM To: Sean Heskett Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; Members ; Trina Coffey ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

You're about 10 years late on WISPCON. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:24:14 PM Subject

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

It seems to me that the number of deaths and critical cases is a lot more meaningful than the total reported cases... all that really tells you is that lots of people were or weren't tested in a particular country. I don't have any idea what's actually going on in Italy as far as testing, buy judgi

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

the number infected is the spread, thats what all the helmet are saying, is how fast it will spread. i go by the number that actually matters. But there is an upside ti wispamerica if this thing spreads as easy as the lowbrows say it does. a ton of WISPs will be up for sale at estate liquidations

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

And the green line. What is that? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 4:10 PM Eric Nielsen wrote: > That graph is for mainland China numbers, i believe. Isn’t it? > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:07 PM Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Josh, Not sure why you would display it with "Other Locations" filtered and I'm not sure what your point it re recoveries. That the vast majority who contract this will get better? No one contests that. Clearly China's containment, although it would seem draconian here, has been effective in fl

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Title: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Why must we assume Italy is going to be then normal.  This virus is in or has been in 121 countries.  Several of those countries have had it before Italy has had its first.  By far Italy on a percentage basis is the worst case.  I don't think it

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

*take the path not oath (damn you autocorrect) On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:48 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Mark, > > If we take the oath of China and Germany (testing, quarantine and social > distancing) then we won’t look like Italy. But if we stay on our current > path we will look like Italy or ev

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Mark, If we take the oath of China and Germany (testing, quarantine and social distancing) then we won’t look like Italy. But if we stay on our current path we will look like Italy or even Iran. -Sean On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:46 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Why must we assume Italy

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Best to just nuke italy, turn it and france to glass. its best to play it safe, this is too dangerous not to nuke them, and canada. washington and california... glass them. Glassitol is the only cure On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Why must we assume Italy is

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

You can’t nuke Italy and France. How would we survive without pizza and french fries? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Best to ju

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmericaI keep sayin’ some cultures just don’t wanna wash their fingers after pooping. From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 3:45 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Why mus

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

are you questioning me? where are you at? I suspect kungflu in your area, glassitol for you too On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:55 PM James Howard wrote: > You can’t nuke Italy and France. How would we survive without pizza and > french fries? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On B

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

We are putting remote PDUs at all sites as a general precaution – there’s too many devices which can fail/crash, requiring a truck roll, that end up getting fixed by a power cycle. It doesn’t take too many disruptions like that to realize the value of a remote reboot with ping watchdog option.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Can’t we find a method that vaporizes all the people but leaves the pizza and fries? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica are you ques

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Neutron bomb. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:05 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Can’t we find a method that vaporizes all the people but leaves the pizza and fries? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I’ve never been there but have been told that in Italy the term “public restroom” means wherever you happen to be standing on the street at the time. The streets are their trash/compost areas…… why wash your fingers after pooping if you’re walking through it all the time anyway? From: AF [mai

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Will that give Steve the glassitrol result he’s looking for though? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Neutron bomb. From: James

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I always wanted to make a massive pulse magnet that would shift the iron elements in the body just enough to shred the cell walls. If you can design it, then you can keep your food On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:06 PM James Howard wrote: > Can’t we find a method that vaporizes all the people but leav

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

How about a bio weapon, maybe one that presents like influenza? On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:06 PM James Howard wrote: > Can’t we find a method that vaporizes all the people but leaves the pizza > and fries? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* We

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

canada is still getting glassed, regardless, so ill still get a taste On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:10 PM James Howard wrote: > Will that give Steve the glassitrol result he’s looking for though? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I used to do that, back in the day. Then I had the problem where the PDUs Started failing and turning everything off more than the PDUs were helping me by letting me power cycle things. Or the Failure was something like the router, so the PDU couldn't be accessed anyway. On 3/11/2020 5:04 PM

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Title: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Sean, But we already took the path of Italy?  What have we really done since the first case?  People aren't honoring quarantine.  Just got a message from the local school board.  If anyone in the family goes on a cruise over spring break (kids

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Wouldn't the Corona Virus do that..? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 6:06 PM James Howard wrote: > Can’t we find a method that vaporizes all the people but leaves the pizza > and fries? > > > > *From:* AF [mail

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

That works From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica canada is still getting glassed, regardless, so ill still get a taste On Wed, Mar 11,

Re: [AFMUG] OT military secret things

You said EMP, I read it as EPMP. I thought maybe this was a mu-MU-MMUU-MIMO antenna. On 3/11/2020 3:16 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: One of my sons is working on a project for the USAF in NM. This is an EMP test antenna. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listi

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

WHO and CDC have websites, and the federal govt task force led by VP Pence has I think daily press conferences that are carried on the TV and available I’m sure on the Internet. Much status will be local, and state and local govts are providing information, for example here in Illinois we have

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Seems like the answer is just to build a wall around them then and wait. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:16 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Wouldn't the Corona Viru

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

The other problem is WISPA is not giving refunds to folks who "don't go because of the virus". On 3/11/20 2:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: "If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go." IMHO, it isn't about you, it is about being a responsible member of society.  I'm not judging, or sa

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Attending the conference sends a strong message that we are selfish and don't care about anyone but ourselves. We have a duty to social distance now - for our elderly, for your healthcare providers, for every neighbor who may need a hospital bed. Doing your part to slow the spread is showing

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I am prepared to make purchases of WISP, cash sale I'll be here in three weeks. Please have your P&L statements, customer attrition and gain rates easily available, and a price in mind when you contact me. On 3/11/20 4:24 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The chinese chart showed an exponential

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

"Almost all of our attendees and vendors are interested in continuing the show, which means the show will go on. We have made significant financial and operational commitments in reliance on attendee which has not waned. Out of an abundance of caution we have put in place many safety protocols

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

And you'll pay for it with money made on $50k in the stock market. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:23 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica I am

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Title: Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Going to be interesting on how long the media can milk this for.  We as a society have a very short attention span.  Long before this virus fizzles out, the masses with get bored with it.  They will just start tuning it out and star

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

matt hoppes agrees with me its best to glass everyone. he is the reason reynolds stock hasnt drop, he buy all the tin foil as fast as they can make it. What do you say matt, we nuke canada and mexico to create a radiation buffer around the US, pop the tops off al the coastal oil well and light the

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

I do not find your constant posts blaming “the media” helpful or informative. I apologize that I find listening to the official government task force press conference more useful. So because I’m watching it on TV, that makes it “the media”? Please consider posting something about how thi

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

its amazing the difference between what you get watching what actual officials say and watching what the media (news media) and former officials say. the former officials I actually LOL over considering how poorly they handled the previous nothingburger swine flu On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:03 PM Ke

Re: [AFMUG] RB4011 Lockups

I've never known PacketFlux PDUs to fail... with other stuff, we certainly had that problem. On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 5:13 PM Nate Burke wrote: > I used to do that, back in the day. Then I had the problem where the PDUs > Started failing and turning everything off more than the PDUs were helping

Re: [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

No exceptions. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 6:20 PM Matt Hoppes wrote: > The other problem is WISPA is not giving refunds to folks who "don't go > because of the virus". > > On 3/11/20 2:18 PM, Carl Peterson

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

We have the knowledge to make our own pizza... we don't need them! On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 4:55 PM James Howard wrote: > You can’t nuke Italy and France. How would we survive without pizza and > french fries? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Well, I used to eat freedom fries before my blood sugar issues... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica We have the knowledge to make our own pizza... we don't need them! On Wed, Ma

Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

Title: Re: [AFMUG] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica Ken, I agree with you 100%.  Listening to CDC and other official sources are very beneficial.  That is pretty much the only place I try to get my information from.  I don't consider them media.  My beef is with the big guy

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

hmm... so if we nuke France, we'll have to go back to eating freedom fries instead of french fries? On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 6:20 PM wrote: > Well, I used to eat freedom fries before my blood sugar issues... > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2020 5:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm

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