twice as much, but the performance on ice might only be 10% better.
>> There’s only so much you can do vs. laws of physics. And states outlawing
>> studded tires because they tear up the roads.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We tend to talk like it’s all about which equipment vendor is better.
>>> Is Ubiquiti better than Aviat? But a lot of it is physics and regulatory.
>>> And maybe climate change. It reminds me of winter tires. You can pay
>
, 2020 11:12 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full
Duplex
I don't think so. In moderate rain zones the AF24HD can
go 2 mil
ch, but the performance on ice might only be 10% better.
> There’s only so much you can do vs. laws of physics. And states outlawing
> studded tires because they tear up the roads.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 20
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From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for
ebruary 26, 2020 11:08:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
Is the range equivalent?
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
for $5,000 the A
m not sure how far you can go on 80 GHz, but I'm
> pretty sure it isn't that far.
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Is the range equivalent?
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
:
Is the range equivalent?
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the
throughput!
On Wed
nt?
>>
>> From: Kurt Fankhauser <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
>>
>> for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper t
11:16:59 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
Depends on dish size and rain zone.. there are folks who definitely have 2mi
80ghz links.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 12:12 PM Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:
I don't think so. In moderate rain zones the A
80 GHz, but I'm
> pretty sure it isn't that far.
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2020 9:08 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>
> Is the range equivalent?
>
> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users G
Sent: Tuesday,
February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
.6 KM shot with 1G Full
D
: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 11:08:52 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
Is the range equivalent?
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AF
Is the range equivalent?
From: Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:59 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the
throughput!
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020
ry 26, 2020 10:59:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the
throughput!
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mathew Howard < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote:
Good to know. That's an inc
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> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Darin Steffl"
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
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> ------
> *From: *"Darin Steffl"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot
lFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes
and everything.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett < af...@zirkel.us &g
Aviat sells direct via their web store.
From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex
I don't know anyone that sells Aviat.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM
Aviat only sells direct
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 8:32 PM Lewis Bergman
wrote:
> I don't know anyone that sells Aviat.
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl
> wrote:
>
>> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with
>> dishes and everything.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 25
I don't know anyone that sells Aviat.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl wrote:
> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with
> dishes and everything.
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote:
>
>> Good choice Lewis!
>>
>> We have a dozen of them a
The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with
dishes and everything.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett wrote:
> Good choice Lewis!
>
> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really
> amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) t
Good choice Lewis!
We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been really
amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on
keepin on!!
-Sean
On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman
wrote:
> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.
>
Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it
> really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific
> requirements.
>
> If the project isn't co
At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it really
comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific requirements.
If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can get,
then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that band,
I guess it depends on the 9s you want.
Cheaper is not always better for consistency.
On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote:
No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz links for
less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps).
Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Avi
It comes down to carrier grade or best effort requirements and your
tolerance for problems.
Cheap and probably good include ignitenet, Mikrotik, ubnt.
Carrier grade set and forget in 80ghz includes siklu, aviat, bridgewave and
cambium/ceragon.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 10:50 AM Mike Hammett wrote
I'd look at Mikrotik or IgniteNet 60 GHz products.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Lewis Bergman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 8:27:59 AM
Ubiquiti also has cheap 60ghz options. Haven't used them (yet).
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:34 AM Mathew Howard wrote:
> I would use 80ghz... probably Siklu.
>
> If you want to do it cheap, 60ghz should be fine at that distance too.
> IgniteNet and Mikrotik 60ghz have both worked well for us, Si
I would use 80ghz... probably Siklu.
If you want to do it cheap, 60ghz should be fine at that distance too.
IgniteNet and Mikrotik 60ghz have both worked well for us, Siklu is
probably better, but also far more costly.
On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:22 AM Dennis Burgess via AF
wrote:
> .6km use a Wi
.6km use a Wireless Wire Dish Kit, we have them in stock. 60 Ghz will give you
1 gig full duplex without issues, under 400 bucks I belive.
[LTI-Full_175px]
Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified
Author of "Lear
No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz links for less
that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps).
Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat. Aviat probably
gives you the best bang for your buck. Cambium has a new mmWave product,
but I don't know anything about it.
SIAE 80HDX is working well for us. Up to 10Gbps full duplex.
On 24 Feb 2020, at 10:27, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium
> has something that looks like it will work but their product selector
> returns no matches .
>
> Ubiquiti ha
Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will take all
of your 5g spectrum and
there is the ptp850E
On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see
Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their produc
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