for $5,000 the Aviat 80ghz solution is actually cheaper than AF24HD and 10x the throughput!
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:36 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > Good to know. That's an incredibly good deal... definitely what I'd go > with. You'll probably be paying at least that for a 1Gbps link from any of > the other manufacturers. > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 9:20 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote: > >> Yes I ran into the same thing with the web store showing a higher cost. >> >> Just reach out to Ken and he'll quote you the pricing I'm talking about. >> >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 9:05 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It may be WISPA member pricing. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 10:02 AM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there some kind of special pricing or something? I logged into my >>>> Aviat account, and it's looking more like $7k for a link to me. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:05 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes - this is the WTM4800. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That is an insane value proposition over the AF24HD. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which specific radio, the 10G single band 4800? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >>>>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2020 9:29:10 PM >>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex >>>>>> >>>>>> The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k >>>>>> with dishes and everything. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good choice Lewis! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast! Been >>>>>>> really amazed during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they >>>>>>> keep >>>>>>> on keepin on!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard < >>>>>>>> mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so >>>>>>>>> it really comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific >>>>>>>>> requirements. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can >>>>>>>>> get, then just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> band, so just pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have. >>>>>>>>> If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to >>>>>>>>> consider. Ignitenet an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> actually shipping yet), have an extra channel at the top end of the >>>>>>>>> band >>>>>>>>> that can get a bit better range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) >>>>>>>>> use... >>>>>>>>> but that's not really going to make a lot of difference at that >>>>>>>>> distance >>>>>>>>> anyway. Ignitenet is the only one with an SFP port, if that matters, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> they also have a radio that's capable of 2.5gbps, instead of only >>>>>>>>> 1gpbs... >>>>>>>>> they're also the most expensive of the cheap options. Mikrotik uses a >>>>>>>>> beam >>>>>>>>> forming antenna, so they're about 100000x easier to aim then the >>>>>>>>> Ignitenets >>>>>>>>> (I believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used their radios >>>>>>>>> yet). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I >>>>>>>>> think they're all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction >>>>>>>>> at the >>>>>>>>> same time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz >>>>>>>>> licensing (which is pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> has to be done), then Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. Or >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> could just stick with AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but >>>>>>>>> considering what they cost, it makes more sense to me to just go with >>>>>>>>> 80ghz >>>>>>>>> at that distance. You could also go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but >>>>>>>>> they're >>>>>>>>> half duplex radios, and I don't think that they can handle a full >>>>>>>>> 2gbps >>>>>>>>> aggregate. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess it depends on the 9s you want. >>>>>>>>>> Cheaper is not always better for consistency. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No way I would consider AF24HD for this. You can get 80ghz links >>>>>>>>>> for less that do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat. Aviat >>>>>>>>>> probably gives you the best bang for your buck. Cambium has a new >>>>>>>>>> mmWave >>>>>>>>>> product, but I don't know anything about it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will >>>>>>>>>>> take all of your 5g spectrum and >>>>>>>>>>> there is the ptp850E >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What are the current recommendations for something like this. I >>>>>>>>>>> see Cambium has something that looks like it will work but their >>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>> selector returns no matches . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ubiquiti has the 24HD. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anything else I should be aware of? >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Lewis Bergman >>>>>>>> 325-439-0533 Cell >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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