Aviat sells direct via their web store.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:32 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] .6 KM shot with 1G Full Duplex

 

I don't know anyone that sells Aviat. 

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:30 PM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com 
<mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > wrote:

The best deal right now is Aviat 10Gbps full duplex for about $5k with dishes 
and everything. 

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020, 8:24 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us 
<mailto:af...@zirkel.us> > wrote:

Good choice Lewis!

 

We have a dozen of them and they are rock solid and fast!  Been really amazed 
during rain events (heavy mountain downpours) that they keep on keepin on!!

 

-Sean

 

 

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:27 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com 
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Thanks everyone. I think we'll give the 80G Siklu a shot.

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com 
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:

At that distance, rain fade shouldn't be a problem with 60ghz, so it really 
comes down to hardware reliability, and budget, and specific requirements. 

 

If the project isn't cost sensitive, and you want the best you can get, then 
just go with 80ghz... there basically is no cheap junk for that band, so just 
pick your favorite vendor and buy what they have. 

If you do want to go cheap, then there are a few things to consider. Ignitenet 
an Ubiquiti (although I don't think their radios are actually shipping yet), 
have an extra channel at the top end of the band that can get a bit better 
range, which the Mikrotiks can't (legally) use... but that's not really going 
to make a lot of difference at that distance anyway. Ignitenet is the only one 
with an SFP port, if that matters, and they also have a radio that's capable of 
2.5gbps, instead of only 1gpbs... they're also the most expensive of the cheap 
options. Mikrotik uses a beam forming antenna, so they're about 100000x easier 
to aim then the Ignitenets (I believe Ubiquiti does as well, but I haven't used 
their radios yet). 

 

None of the cheap 60ghz radios are true full duplex radios, but I think they're 
all capable of delivering a full gig in each direction at the same time.

 

If you don't want cheap, but don't want to deal with 80ghz licensing (which is 
pretty cheap and simple, but it is another thing that has to be done), then 
Siklu 60ghz would probably be a good option. Or you could just stick with 
AF24HD, which will certainly do the job, but considering what they cost, it 
makes more sense to me to just go with 80ghz at that distance. You could also 
go with Mimosa B24 for 24ghz, but they're half duplex radios, and I don't think 
that they can handle a full 2gbps aggregate.

 

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com 
<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> > wrote:

I guess it depends on the 9s you want. 
Cheaper is not always better for consistency. 






On 2/24/20 8:36 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

No way I would consider AF24HD for this.  You can get 80ghz links for less that 
do MUCH more throughput (10Gbps). 

 

Vendors in this space include Bridgewave, Siklu and Aviat.  Aviat probably 
gives you the best bang for your buck.  Cambium has a new mmWave product, but I 
don't know anything about it.

 

Josh

 

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:31 AM dave <dmilho...@wletc.com 
<mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com> > wrote:

Not sure which product mentioned but the PTP550 unlicensed will take all of 
your 5g spectrum and
there is the ptp850E




On 2/24/20 8:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

What are the current recommendations for something like this. I see Cambium has 
something that looks like it will work but their product selector returns no 
matches . 

 

Ubiquiti has the 24HD.

 

Anything else I should be aware of?
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