Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-12 Thread Bill Prince
Anyone want to volunteer for testing? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political -

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Chuck McCown
t;>>> But man, how do you write regulations around these things and how do >>>>>>> you condition cops to not protect their own lives in certain situations >>>>>>> too. >>>>>>> They also get scared >>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett
it. Anyone want to volunteer for testing? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now done). He then broke away and started runnin

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett
rom:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now done). He then broke away and started running. Officer shot him in the back a long time aft

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-11 Thread Adam Moffett
fessional./ *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 10:49 AM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or sharing sensitive

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning Charge me, please. When I finally got out of the building (it was dark by then) during the robbery (guy was still inside, had killed a customer) the cops didn't know if I was the bad guy or not. They frisked me p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
at some kind of brain wave frequency could do it. Anyone want to volunteer for testing? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now don

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Bill Prince
brain wave frequency could do it. Anyone want to volunteer for testing? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now done).

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Bill Prince
*Cal-Ore*  | /Local. Trusted. Professional./ *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caut

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jay Weekley
at some kind of brain wave frequency could do it. Anyone want to volunteer for testing? *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning He fired the taser when they were in close contact (taser is now

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jay Weekley
I had a local deputy take me through the Alabama law enforcement firearms qualification test. The cue to shoot was the word "threat". You point a something that may be a gun and the reflexes engage I am sure. Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: That taser actually had two shots. The dude shot them

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
That taser actually had two shots. The dude shot them both at the same time. Not sure how the cop was supposed to figured that out in a split second. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jul 10, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >

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2020-07-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Center mass, every time. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > > Is it deadly force to shoot them in the leg so they can’t keep running? > Easier to recover from a leg wound than a sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jay Weekley
alf Of *Charles Boening *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 12:22 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other officer. A taser that hadn’t been fire

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Jay Weekley
ww.facebook.com/pages/Cal-Ore/205066716227707> __ *Cal-Ore* | /Local. Trusted. Professional./ *From:* AF *On Behalf Of * Bill Prince *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning EX

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Bill Prince
My understanding is that police are trained to shoot for center of mass. Cowboy shots to the leg(s) are more likely to miss altogether. bp On 7/10/2020 10:04 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Is it deadly force to shoot them in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Robert Andrews
Police are extensively trained _not_ to take anything but a deadly shot. The same as when someone trespasses into your home. On 07/10/2020 10:04 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: Is it deadly force to shoot them in the leg so they can’t keep running? Easier to recover from a leg wound than a shot

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Robert Andrews
I believe there is a criteria of "immediate threat" Not a potential threat but clear ( that's hard to define ) and immediate. Not true when someone is running away from you with a sword. On 07/10/2020 09:32 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of la

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
-lori-lightfoot-police-chase-deaths-20200609-ueeunuyhgbgq3gfh3wn23xpz2q-story.html From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 12:14 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning I would think yo

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2020-07-10 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5RzI5LyVc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:32:21 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Might be

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2020-07-10 Thread James Howard
I would think you would be scared if you were robbing a bank…… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 11:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Charles Boening
y 10, 2020 10:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning EXTERNAL EMAIL - Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or sharing sensitive information. Is it deadly force to shoot them in the leg so they can’t keep running? Easier

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
Is it deadly force to shoot them in the leg so they can’t keep running? Easier to recover from a leg wound than a shot to the heart. > On Jul 10, 2020, at 10:52 AM, Carl Peterson > wrote: > > Personal feeling is that unless they present a clear immediate danger to > someone in the immediate v

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Larry Smith
t; > Do other countries have this problem? > > > > From: Carl Peterson > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:49 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning > > Ten v Garner say you can't shoot them > > &

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
From: Carl Peterson Sent: Friday, July 10, 2020 10:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning Ten v Garner say you can't shoot them On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:33 AM wrote: I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Carl Peterson
Personal feeling is that unless they present a clear immediate danger to someone in the immediate vicinity, deadly force is unjustified. On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:48 AM Bill Prince wrote: > I think every situation is different. I also believe the police, in > general, have been given more slack

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Carl Peterson
Ten v Garner say you can't shoot them On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 11:33 AM wrote: > I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law enforcement. > And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear answers. > > A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a repor

Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread Bill Prince
I think every situation is different. I also believe the police, in general, have been given more slack than they should for quite some time. The issue is how to deal with this. I do not envy cops. I have a nephew who is a cop, and I worry about him all the time. On

[AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning

2020-07-10 Thread chuck
I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law enforcement. And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear answers. A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported armed robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running. He drops what appears to