LOL. Love that movie!
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Maybe this should be a police training video:
https://youtu.be/K3hAVT2sDqQ
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In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other officer.
A taser that hadn’t been fired. He turned and shot that taser at the
office which prompted the office to shoot back. You can see that in
the video.
Not saying it was justified or not. Just the fact that the suspect
even though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the officer.
As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is
running away and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm
towards the officer giving chase. You can still have your back to the
officer giving chase yet present a threat to that officer.
Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is a
training scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high. Also note that
you can’t tell what kind of weapon the suspect has. Is it real or
fake? Can’t really tell.
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I think every situation is different. I also believe the police, in
general, have been given more slack than they should for quite some
time. The issue is how to deal with this. I do not envy cops. I have
a nephew who is a cop, and I worry about him all the time.
One of the more recent cases was an individual who was resisting
arrest. He grabbed, and fired a taser. As I understand it, most
tasers are one-and-done. IOW, once the taser has been fired, the only
"weapon" characteristics it has are as a thrown projectile. That
individual was running away, and was shot in the back. Was that
justified? I would have a hard time accepting that as a justified
homicide. But that is only one example.
With the proliferation of cameras everywhere, this sort of thing is
going to come up more and more.
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On 7/10/2020 9:32 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law
enforcement.
And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear
answers.
A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported
armed robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running.
He drops what appears to be a gun, picks it up and keeps running,
should he be shot?
I understand that he may take a hostage or start shooting or
whatever. He may turn the gun on the cops.
I remember old cop and robber movies when I was a kid where the
cop would yell “stop or I’ll shoot”.
We had the above situation happen here in Utah a while back. Cops
were found to have done no wrong.
People are understandably upset.
A few years ago, a young man playing with a sword was stopped by
cops, he took off running with the sword and they shot and killed
him.
I presume the same justifications apply.
I wonder how often someone with a weapon does harm after evading
the cops.
I wonder how other countries confront the same problem.
If a human gets scared and runs due to uncontrolled fear, should
they be shot?
I was only truly scared once in my life. Was in a bank robbery.
I understand that your rational thinking goes out the window a bit
when you are really scared.
