They had already searched him.

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> On Jul 10, 2020, at 1:59 PM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
> 
> Is it a Taser or a gun he just pulled from his pants?  You have a half 
> second to decide.
> 
> Charles Boening wrote:
>> 
>> In the Atlanta case the suspect took a taser from the other officer.  A 
>> taser that hadn’t been fired.  He turned and shot that taser at the office 
>> which prompted the office to shoot back.  You can see that in the video.
>> 
>> Not saying it was justified or not.  Just the fact that the suspect even 
>> though fleeing, turned and shot a weapon at the officer.
>> 
>> As for getting shot in the back, that’s easy if the suspect is running away 
>> and turns their torso a bit then extends their arm towards the officer 
>> giving chase.  You can still have your back to the officer giving chase yet 
>> present a threat to that officer.
>> 
>> Note that this picture has the added benefit of daylight and is a training 
>> scenario so tensions wouldn’t be as high.  Also note that you can’t tell 
>> what kind of weapon the suspect has.  Is it real or fake?  Can’t really tell.
>> 
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>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2020 9:48 AM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Might be political - trigger warning
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>> I think every situation is different. I also believe the police, in general, 
>> have been given more slack than they should for quite some time. The issue 
>> is how to deal with this. I do not envy cops. I have a nephew who is a cop, 
>> and I worry about him all the time.
>> 
>> One of the more recent cases was an individual who was resisting arrest. He 
>> grabbed, and fired a taser. As I understand it, most tasers are 
>> one-and-done. IOW, once the taser has been fired, the only "weapon" 
>> characteristics it has are as a thrown projectile. That individual was 
>> running away, and was shot in the back. Was that justified? I would have a 
>> hard time accepting that as a justified homicide. But that is only one 
>> example.
>> 
>> With the proliferation of cameras everywhere, this sort of thing is going to 
>> come up more and more.
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> 
>> On 7/10/2020 9:32 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> 
>>    I am largely ignorant of the issues faced in world of law
>>    enforcement.
>> 
>>    And perhaps this is a broader philosophical question with no clear
>>    answers.
>> 
>>    A guy, alone at night, in a city, near the location of a reported
>>    armed robbery is confronted by cops, takes off running.
>> 
>>    He drops what appears to be a gun, picks it up and keeps running,
>>    should he be shot?
>> 
>>    I understand that he may take a hostage or start shooting or
>>    whatever.  He may turn the gun on the cops.
>> 
>>    I remember old cop and robber movies when I was a kid where the
>>    cop would yell “stop or I’ll shoot”.
>> 
>>    We had the above situation happen here in Utah a while back. Cops
>>    were found to have done no wrong.
>> 
>>    People are understandably upset.
>> 
>>    A few years ago, a young man playing with a sword was stopped by
>>    cops, he took off running with the sword and they shot and killed him.
>> 
>>    I presume the same justifications apply.
>> 
>>    I wonder how often someone with a weapon does harm after evading
>>    the cops.
>> 
>>    I wonder how other countries confront the same problem.
>> 
>>    If a human gets scared and runs due to uncontrolled fear, should
>>    they be shot?
>> 
>>    I was only truly scared once in my life.  Was in a bank robbery.
>> 
>>    I understand that your rational thinking goes out the window a bit
>>    when you are really scared.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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