Re: [AFMUG] the real threat

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
I'm beginning to think the 2020 memes are real On Mon, May 4, 2020, 8:08 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Good point. I saw what one of those things does, and it does not look like > a good time for honey bees in Washington. > > > bp > > > > On 5/4/2020 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Why are we worrying

Re: [AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
It's a good opportunity to build bridges. Both with the ISP and the candidate customer. Even if you dont gain that customer, solving their problem with their existing isp will garner good will all around. Or you'll just become free tech support for a crummy isp On Mon, May 4, 2020, 8:52 PM James H

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
Yep, they just turn up power, cook more bats, and poof, more Rona On Mon, May 4, 2020, 8:03 PM James Howard wrote: > *the model is factoring in data from four different cell phone providers* > > > > Proof that this is caused by 5G!! > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On

Re: [AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread James Howard
I actually read what you wrote wrong. I thought you said this was a customer of yours.. I dunno. I'm working with this customer of ours to try to salvage the situation but often it seems you just end up regretting it and being happy when they move on to complain about their next victim, u

Re: [AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread Sean Heskett
I’d just be honest with the potential customer and quote them what it’ll take to make it work correctly. Use your expertise to sell them a while home system. if they switch to you then they will probably be happy...that’s all their looking for. -Sean On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 6:44 PM Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread Ryan Ray
It would be nice of you to nudge the current isp and tell them, but they should be watching out for this kind of thing. People are people though, sometimes a little education is all they need. If they called their ISP and got the brush off we would take that connection all day and do proper wifi.

Re: [AFMUG] the real threat

2020-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
Good point. I saw what one of those things does, and it does not look like a good time for honey bees in Washington. bp On 5/4/2020 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Why are we worrying about Covid-19 instead of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread James Howard
the model is factoring in data from four different cell phone providers Proof that this is caused by 5G!! From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 7:57 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? This

Re: [AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread James Howard
You are completely out of line Ken. If their current WISP had any decency at all they NEVER would have let them have a poor connection to their WiFi. Seriously though, I am dealing with pretty much the same exact thing with one of our customers. She "got disconnected from a Zoom meeting and ha

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
This just in from Debbie Downer: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/04/cdc-daily-deaths-coronavirus-234377 -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 4:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? I am thinking that with all t

[AFMUG] the real threat

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why are we worrying about Covid-19 instead of Giant Asian Hornets? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] customer wants to switch WISPs to solve WiFi problem

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Prospective customer wants to switch to us, they get 24M x 24M and 18ms ping on speedtest with their current WISP. It seems like the only problem is their router is in the attached garage not in the middle of the house. Am I wrong to want this customer to just work with their current WISP to g

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Later there could be treatments, right now there’s bupkis. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 5:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? Better now than later On Mon, May 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Robert Andrews mailto:i...@avant

Re: [AFMUG] Point to point

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
5G might work. There is other 5G in the area but we would be shooting across their paths. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 5:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Point to point Depends... if 5ghz is acceptable, I'd probably look at either Ubiquiti AF5

Re: [AFMUG] Point to point

2020-05-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Depends... if 5ghz is acceptable, I'd probably look at either Ubiquiti AF5xHD, or Cambium PTP550. If you don't want to or can't use 5ghz, then either airfiber 11 or something much more expensive. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 4:19 PM wrote: > Need to go 7 km. > More than 100 mbps but probably less than

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
Better now than later On Mon, May 4, 2020, 4:38 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > I am thinking that with all the people defying mask usage and gathering > in groups with widespread community spread we are going to get a monster > spike in about three weeks to a month. Massive. > > On 05/04/2020 09:3

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Robert Andrews
I am thinking that with all the people defying mask usage and gathering in groups with widespread community spread we are going to get a monster spike in about three weeks to a month. Massive. On 05/04/2020 09:30 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: image Every time I get my hopes up this curve breaks

[AFMUG] Point to point

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
Need to go 7 km. More than 100 mbps but probably less than or equal to 500 mbps. What is a good value these days?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
check this out; https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/blog/heroes-shape-the-world/ On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:19 AM Steve Jones wrote: > the parking lot is a 5 or 6 inch square light pole > > The residential quick install is a T-Post with a satellite dish adapter. > We ran out of those adapters so I we

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
And of course everyone washes their hands or uses hand sanitizer any time they touch their mask. And they wash the mask after every time they wear it. I almost think we were safer before the masks, when people kept their distance and obsessively washed their hands. Now it's wear a mask and you

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
Yeah but he was probably wearing a condom. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 1:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? Alabama's last press conference from the governor. The guy on the left is our medical guy. Jay

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
All that I remember had their noses covered. -Original Message- From: Jay Weekley Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 12:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? How many have you seen wearing masks that didn't have their nose covered? ch...@wbmfg.com wro

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Jay Weekley
That was my observation as well. Bill Prince wrote: In my last outing, I would guess roughly 10% of the ones wearing a mask did not have their nose covered. bp On 5/4/2020 11:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: How many have you seen wearing masks that didn't have their nose covered? ch...@wbmfg.co

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
In my last outing, I would guess roughly 10% of the ones wearing a mask did not have their nose covered. bp On 5/4/2020 11:31 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: How many have you seen wearing masks that didn't have their nose covered? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would say about 50% of the people, me includ

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
one confirmed issue is county of death and resident county. people die in one county, but their county rolls are also counting their death. That was an issue that was present with infections too at least here in illinois. The testing county would count the number an so would the resident county, th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Jay Weekley
How many have you seen wearing masks that didn't have their nose covered? ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would say about 50% of the people, me included, has masks at Home Depot this weekend. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
I heard China was lying because their numbers were too good, and apparently > we're lying because our numbers are too bad. > No idea where the idea that our numbers are overcounted is coming from, but that is the exact opposite of the truth. In most cases* I wouldn't attribute our undercounting to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Adam Moffett
The dead bodies are crisis actors On 5/4/2020 2:16 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: While cases/mil pop is likely way undercounting, and deaths attributed to COVID 19 are undercounted, it's hard to juke the stats on dead bodies.  There are a lot more dead bodies this year.  Perhaps the best tracker t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
While cases/mil pop is likely way undercounting, and deaths attributed to COVID 19 are undercounted, it's hard to juke the stats on dead bodies. There are a lot more dead bodies this year. Perhaps the best tracker to do comps would be to just graph deaths above seasonally adjusted average. https:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Adam Moffett
I heard China was lying because their numbers were too good, and apparently we're lying because our numbers are too bad. On 5/4/2020 1:59 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So far this year it is 7X worst than the regular flu. If the numbers are completely false, and they are coming from hospitals and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
The numbers are not "completely" false, but it's the best we can do when we don't actually test all the suspected infections. It also (probably) missed a whole lot of the early deaths, as they were miss-classified. If you think under-ground near-do-wells are plant

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
So far this year it is 7X worst than the regular flu. If the numbers are completely false, and they are coming from hospitals and public health officials, where do your non false numbers come from. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 11:48 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Carl Peterson
Whose agenda is being furthered here? Genuinely curious as to what you think. - unless it is wacko conspiracy theory stuff about implanting us with tracking chips or trying to "control the people". On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 12:49 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > Numbers are completely false. Even with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steven Kenney
Numbers are completely false. Even with that taken into regard it still is just as lethal as the regular flu. While it is way more harsh on people if they get it, most people have underlying conditions, or didn't know they had them, or didn't take it serious when they got it. Unfortunately pol

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
Just seat of the pants noodling. Mark May 24 on your calendar. If the US is over 100,000 dead by that time, we are not really making any progress. If we are under 100,000, then we can start to believe we're actually making some progress. I hear anecdotally that some

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
I have COPD, Normally by now this time of year i start back on symbicort, its what keeps me breathing as the humidity comes up. I take it until the muscle cramps get unbearable. They say that being on a steroid is really bad for the kungflu, so im withholding the treatment. Im going to end up dangl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Bill Prince
It's the "usual" dip we get every Sunday, but it's lower than it's been (by 2, 1154 vs 1156 last Sunday). Let's see what happens for the rest of the week. I will note that with half the states lifting the shelter in place orders, it will be at least 2-3 weeks before

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
I would say about 50% of the people, me included, has masks at Home Depot this weekend. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 4, 2020 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? I really think in the next few weeks we are going to see a lot more correcte

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
I really think in the next few weeks we are going to see a lot more corrected numbers. Any deaths are bad, but less deaths are better. I just want accurate numbers. I stopped complying as much this weekend with the Illinois dictators edicts. I took my mask to the stores, but I would have been the o

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread James Howard
Depends on who you believe but many are claiming that every time the curve starts going down that they are “counting” more people who did not die from COVID as “COVID deaths” in an attempt (conspiracy theory warning) to keep the numbers up so that they can justify the lockdowns. If that’s true

[AFMUG] OT Is this good?

2020-05-04 Thread chuck
Every time I get my hopes up this curve breaks my heart... Let’s hope we are on the tail of a normal curve. 6 days in a row decline. But it has done this cycle 3 times before with a huge spike after. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

2020-05-04 Thread Steve Jones
the parking lot is a 5 or 6 inch square light pole The residential quick install is a T-Post with a satellite dish adapter. We ran out of those adapters so I went to the hardware store and got their 1 1/2" ID water pipe cutoffs, ranging from 12 inch to 30 inch and tapped 2 3/8 bolt holes in them 1

Re: [AFMUG] Hit the big time - Cambium Case Study

2020-05-04 Thread dave
Thats awesome... welcome to the all cambium club. We are on our second white paper now.. This is going to be a another run for show. What kind of pole is that all mounted to? On 4/22/20 6:08 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Im pretty excited about this. Cambium has been outstanding to work with. Between