[9fans] Configuring NFS

Has anyone here successfully set up nfsserver to share Plan 9 files with Unix machines? The examples given in the man pages are rather... opaque. All I want to do is share one directory tree (/lib/music, in particular) with a number of independent Linux laptops and workstations. I'm looking into N

Re: [9fans] Configuring NFS

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 10:30 -0700, John Floren wrote: >> Has anyone here successfully set up nfsserver to share Plan 9 files >> with Unix machines? The examples given in the man pages are rather... >> opaque. All

Re: [9fans] Configuring NFS

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 11:03 -0700, John Floren wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 10:30 -0700, John Floren wrote: >> >> Has anyone here su

Re: [9fans] Configuring NFS

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:34 PM, John Floren wrote: >> >> I'd like to use the 9p mounting available in Linux, but it doesn't >> seem to work in this case. >> I try "mount -t 9p glenda /m

Re: [9fans] Configuring NFS

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > "none" does not (normally) give you read-only access; if something is > world-writable, none will be able to write it. but getting read-only > is pretty easy; see exportfs(4) and the files which use it in > /rc/bin/service. from emory, i'd sa

Re: [9fans] Configuring NFS

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > map between the numeric IDs reported by nfs and strings plan9 uses for uids. > > What if I want to just allow anyone to mount the share, from anywhere? John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, a

Re: [9fans] confusing astro output

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:34 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:43 PM, andrey > mirtchovski wrote: >> most likely "astro" needs to be taught a bit about maths ;) >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drE5cHe6c3s >> > > What *was* that? > > Just a bit of British comedy... I haven't h

[9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

Our Coraid device recently lost two disks from the RAID5 configuration; while we were able to rebuild from instructions given by support, I suspect some small amount of data was corrupted. Since rebuilding the device a few days ago, every morning I have returned to work to find my CPU/auth/file se

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, John Floren wrote: > > Our Coraid device recently lost two disks from the RAID5 > configuration; while we were able to rebuild from instructions given > by support, I suspect some small amount of data was corrupted. > > Since rebuilding the dev

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:25 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > Forgot to add that I've only seen one error on the console during all of > > this: > > /boot/fossil: could not write super block; waiting 10 seconds > > /boot/fossil: blistAlloc: called on clean block. > > is that once, or every time? >

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > It seems to only happen once per boot, but not necessarily when fossil > > starts responding--I've seen it a couple hours after booting, which > > the filesystem tends to go away at night. > > the failure is somewhere in blockWrite.  sin

Re: [9fans] simple question: multiple rename

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > I forgot, / is actually illegal. I'm almost (but not quite) certain that \0 > > is legal, and if I understand my emacs correctly you may be able to type it > > as ctrl-space. It displays as ^@ in emacs. > > > > what system call do you

Re: [9fans] How to set up network?

do what I need to do with Plan 9--for instance, using Plan 9 to access a serial console is easy, while it's always a huge hassle for me on Linux. It's also good for preparing papers. Plan 9 can do whatever you program it to do. John Floren -- "I've tried programming Ruby on

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM, John Floren wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:45 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> >> > It seems to only happen once per boot, but not necessarily when fossil >> > starts responding--I've seen it a couple hours after booting, which

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:01 AM, John Floren wrote: > > Our Coraid device recently lost two disks from the RAID5 > configuration; while we were able to rebuild from instructions given > by support, I suspect some small amount of data was corrupted. > > Since rebuilding the dev

Re: [9fans] fossil/venti falling down?

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:09 PM, wrote: >  /boot/fossil: cacheLocalData: addr=78989 type got 0 exp 0: tag got > e63eb942 exp 663eb942 > /boot/fossil: cacheLocalData: addr=99457 type got 0 exp 0: tag got > 150daf85 exp 150daf05 > /boot/fossil: cacheLocalData: addr=68651 type got 0 exp 0: tag got >

Re: [9fans] off-topic: "small is beautiful" article

TinyScheme has been in contrib for a long time, but I don't know its limitations or how it would stack up against 'ChibiScheme' John On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > COOL!  So there's a Scheme in the works for Inferno and Plan 9? > Dave > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:50 AM,

Re: [9fans] timesync -r not working?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:57 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > > The script runs at boot, the echo tells me that much, but the time is >> > > not set, perhaps as if timesync -r is not working. To be specific the >> > > date a few minutes after booting is Sun Jan  2 18:30:36 GMT 2000. >> > >> > i bel

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:58 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> >> Arguing about mouse vs keyboard misses the point. >> I'm very happy with acme's use of the mouse, but >> acme's power comes from the rest of its design. >> >> Russ >> > > Even in Emac

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:00:01 -0500 > blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: > >> > perhaps i should have taken piano, but i find the >> >> That's an interesting observation.  As it turns out I >> do play, and it's certainly possible that it colors

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:41 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> Umm, Plan 9 relevance: I don't have to fingertwist in Plan 9! Actually >> I can't remember using Esc anywhere, > > esc selects typing since last non-typing > repositing of the tick or deletes selected > text in acme.  esc toggles hold mode in

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Rob Pike wrote: > I believe ^H ^W ^U date back at least to TENEX. > > -rob > > I just checked, ^H and ^W were the same in ITS's :EMACS John -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I

Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 > cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: > >> yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits >> seems to be a bad idea. > > Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals require at > l

Re: [9fans] Google finally announces their lightweight OS

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> 2009/7/8 Uriel : >>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Devon H. O'Dell >>> wrote: I don't think so. We already have IPv6 support and it's not that bad. Having more drivers and supported

Re: [9fans] Fonts

On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM, J. R. Mauro wrote: > > > > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 16:05, Josh Wood wrote: > >> >> On Jul 8, 2009, at 12:00 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >>> >>> Does >>> anybody know anything about how fonts are created and packaged (info >>> on subfonts would be great, info on TTF woul

Re: [9fans] data analysis on plan9

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Roman V Shaposhnik wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 15:56 -0300, Federico G. Benavento wrote: >> > Also, something similar to GSL (http://www.gnu.org/software/gsl/) >> >> gsl-1.6.tbz           GNU Scientific Library, native port. >> >> /n/sources/contrib/pac/sys/src/li

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

At least once a month it happens. We can't escape. We're forever doomed to get a "Can I use Plan 9 as my desktop OS for web browsing and watching movies and stuff?" thread every couple weeks, because people are only willing to spend jst enough effort to find the Plan 9 web page and subscribe to

Re: [9fans] 9grid.net down?

It's in mason's contrib directory. grep -i ac97 /n/sources/lsr On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:16 PM, wrote: > It seems to drop HTTP links as soon as they are established.  Is there > another location for aki's AC'97 support? > > ++L > > > -- "I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechC

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Jul 13 19:58:54 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote: >> So, I finally got tired of slow desktop switching with the nvidia >> driver and thought I'd give vesa another shot. > > i have had trouble with vesa cursor in 1600x1200.  general

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:06 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> I didn't seem to see any improvement after applying the mtrr patch... >> did you make any changes to the vganvidia file before compiling? I >> haven't looked at the 'pat' thing, I'll have to check that out. >> > > for the pat business, i did

Re: [9fans] ugliness in vesa

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:10 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> I believe I properly applied the pat patch, but I'm not really seeing >> any improvement. At least, it still takes fully two seconds to bring >> one large window in front of another. > > that's because the screen is not double-buffered.  pat

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:32:09 +0200 > wrote: > >> >> >> >  I also take issue with the statement "Acme is a text editor," that never >> > sounds right, no more than describing Emacs as >> >  a text editor. It's natural to use Acme as a t

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, David Leimbach wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Steve Simon wrote: >> >> > Eric and myself, and I think maybe Ron, are using acme and acme-sac to >> > interact with a BlueGene/P system. >> >> Not as glamorous, but an alternative senario - I use sam a

Re: [9fans] Why does Acme only show text?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Chad Brown wrote: >> Emacs is great for writing Lisp. Now, if only I could find the correct >> .emacs invocation to make the tab key insert a tab character in C >> mode, rather than a bunch of spaces the way His Holy Lunacy RMS >> desires. If I wanted spaces instead

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:38 PM, wrote: >> Thats good to hear HG is working well, I am really hoping for git >> as it is hosting my current repo of works.  If git does not exist >> and there is no plan to do it in the future I can migrate over my

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

Congratulations! I'm interested in giving it a shot; is it just a tarball to compile, or is it a package for fgb's contrib(1)? I'll throw it on sources for you if you don't have an alternate hosting solution while you wait for your contrib. John On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM, wrote: >        I

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Uriel wrote: > > And stop the totally false condescending 'you should volunteer to > contribute' nonsense, because *many* people have offered their help, > and help is not welcome, so before repeating such crap, maybe you > could bother to at least point out how peo

Re: [9fans] plan9.bell-labs.com down

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Uriel wrote: > [...] >> Maybe you can tell us what *you* have done to help Plan 9? Or is your >> greatest contribution to act all obnoxious and condescending towards >> people that despite their limited and flawed abil

Re: [9fans] About Plan9 on small systems

On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Adriano Verardo wrote: > Hi, all > > Some time go I read about Plan9 on microcontrollers. > > Is this an interesting argument for the 9fans community ? > > adriano > > The closest you'll come with Plan 9 is the ARM port. As for microcontrollers like the Atmels, yo

Re: [9fans] first timer - editing plan9.ini

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Corey wrote: > > Ok, so I have my fossil+venti and hopefully soon-to-be cpu and auth-server > booted up for the first time, and I'm in rio as user glenda. > > I'm continuing to follow the docs, which is prompting me to edit plan9.ini for > various things. > > sam is

Re: [9fans] first timer - editing plan9.ini

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Corey wrote: > On Sunday 19 July 2009 16:02:20 John Floren wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Corey wrote: > >> > Can someone give me just the bare minimal sam command/info that I need >> > to: >> > >> >

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

That should have been a private reply, but I suck at using gmail. John On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:39 PM, John Floren wrote: > Hi > Can I get a copy of your code? > > Thanks > > John > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, wrote: >>        Phew finally got it.  There wa

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

Hi Can I get a copy of your code? Thanks John On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:46 PM, wrote: >        Phew finally got it.  There was some hackery involved in the hg-git > python code since mmap wasn't supported -- i basically just implemented them > with reads; however I was considering writing an

Re: [9fans] git on plan9

I don't think the porter's contrib has been created yet; I will happily host it on mine in the meantime, or other arrangements could be made. John On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Roman V Shaposhnik wrote: > On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 14:39 -0700, John Floren wrote: >> Hi >>

Re: [9fans] Does "as little software as possible" include a modern

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Fernan Bolando wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Richard Miller<9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >>> although it uses http, twitter has got an api that you can use outside >>> a browser. it's much the same with several others, including aws. >>> there are reasonab

Re: [9fans] plan9port behind corporate firewall with no DNS or port access

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Salman Aljammaz wrote: > Uriel wrote: >> If your work firewall proxies port 80, then things get trickier, you >> could mount sources on the home inferno instance, and then export it >> using mjl's httpd as a read-only http 'tree'. > > assuming you've got openssh, on

Re: [9fans] a few more misc. questions if you don't mind

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Corey wrote: > > I understand that, but I didn't pose my question correctly. The gist behind > the question might have made more sense if I had phrased it differently: > > Given the following ridiculously contrived hypothetical situation: > > You only had a single c

Re: [9fans] a few more misc. questions if you don't mind

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Corey wrote: > > "One computer, Plan 9 only, on bare hardware - which do you prefer: > terminal kernel or cpu kernel w/ auth and fs enabled? Or is there > technically no reason to have a preference under the circumstances?" > > Your answer: "terminal and just deal w

Re: [9fans] Woes of New Language Support

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:39:46 +0100 > Charles Forsyth wrote: > >> >the unicode proposal says that matches depend on (re, locale, input). >> >not just (re, input).  i would think that is not acceptable. >> >> it's not just the unicode peo

[9fans] Unix Weenie Newsreader

Ever wish you had more GUI programs on Plan 9 to show off to your friends? Do you think Mothra represents the very pinnacle of UI design? Then have I got a program for you... I've spent the last day or so whipping up a quick libpanel application to read USENET via nntpfs. You can read newsgroups (

Re: [9fans] An excerpt from Syllable's description

Why do we have to care about every self-righteous pronouncement from every minor project out there? Why should we have to put everything into a "Plan 9 context"? If you want to relate Plan 9 to Syllable, look at their forums--it seems to have the same sort of problems as Plan 9. Lacking in drivers

Re: [9fans] Unix Weenie Newsreader

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John Floren wrote: > Ever wish you had more GUI programs on Plan 9 to show off to your > friends? Do you think Mothra represents the very pinnacle of UI > design? Then have I got a program for you... > > I've spent the last day or so whipping

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Corey wrote: > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 19:42:54 Anthony Sorace wrote: >> > * I hope I don't get beat up on this one (well, I hope I don't get too >> > beat up on _any_ of these questions...), but it seems strange that >> > something as important as a cpu/auth se

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Corey wrote: > On Thursday 06 August 2009 01:19:35 Robert Raschke wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Corey wrote: > >> > That wasn't a rhetorical question.  Why bother locking your door? >> > >> > Any intruder worth his weight in salt can circumvent such a s

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM, John Floren wrote: > > Oh, if we're just protecting against people wandering by who are > obviously there by mistake--since we're discounting anyone coming > prepared for serious maliciousness--how about just not having a > terminal connecte

[9fans] the old floppy set

Looking at the very old mailing list archives, I noticed something about a 3-disk (or was it 4-disk?) floppy-based distribution of the earliest PC dist. Is that still available in some form? I just came into possession of a stack of floppies and a pair of 486s and I'm ready to dare to be stupid.

Re: [9fans] a few Q's regarding cpu/auth server

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 6:59 PM, hiro wrote: > >> don't forget to take away the connectors from the power and reset >> buttons, otherwise good security concepts;) > > Just out of curiosity, is it possible to simply unbind the console on one of > th

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > that was for 2nd edition. it's now horribly outdated. > > it is also only available under an older, for-pay license that i'm not > sure it's actually possible to buy any more. > > you don't actually want that set unless you're doing archeolog

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > As Anthony says it is very very old, but I might > be fun if you had the time on your hands. The 2nd edition > books/cdrom are nolonger available but you might find > a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc). > > The floppys are here: > /n/sources/c

Re: [9fans] yet another installation guide

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > step 17. > it's a good idea to always leave a 9fat menu around on your auth server. > if you screw a kernel up, you'll really be proud of your self for it! > > - erik To add to this, a quick reading of the plan9.ini man page will show you h

[9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

Hi So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on bitbucket. This is what I see: jerq% hg clone https://@bitbucket.org/// destination directory: http authorization required realm: Bitbucket.org HTTP user: abort: could not import module msvcrt! If I try with ssh instead: jerq% hg

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Floren wrote: > Hi > > So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on > bitbucket. This is what I see: > > jerq% hg clone https://@bitbucket.org/// > destination directory: > http authorization required >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Floren wrote: >> Hi >> >> So I'm trying to clone a private repository I just created on >> bitbucket. This is what I see: >> >> jerq% hg clone https://@bitbuck

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 hg with private repositories

can't successfully update to actually get > the bits into a working system. > > -jas > > On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Floren wrote: >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> So I'm trying

Re: [9fans] yet another installation guide

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Corey wrote: > On Monday 10 August 2009 22:37:38 John Floren wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstrom > wrote: >> > step 17. >> > it's a good idea to always leave a 9fat menu around on your auth server. >>

Re: [9fans] rio with virtuals

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > I spent a couple hours this afternoon reading rio source and hacking > it to do virtual desktops.  /n/sources/contrib/john/rio-virtual.tgz > contains the files from /sys/src/cmd/rio with my changes made.  At > this time, there is no support for specifying

Re: [9fans] the old floppy set

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:11 AM, michael block wrote: > On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 23:49, John Floren wrote: >> With a little help from FreeDOS, I am now successfully running 2e > > i can't get past the first disk. it seems there is no "suitable" fat > partiti

Re: [9fans] file server?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> So, I guess that means venti+fossil+cpu on one headless machine in >> some forgotten corner of the datacentre. > > regardless of one's terminal accomidations, i still think it makes > a lot of sense to have a stand-alone fileserver.  it real

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote: > >> Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the >> APE. Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc and tried "make posix". Aft

Re: [9fans] Lua on Plan9

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Josh Wood wrote: > >> Just fetched the tarball for lua-5.1.4, changed the CC=gcc to CC=cc >> and tried "make posix". After lots of complaining about the -O2 >> option, I see: >> >> /usr/john/lua-5.1.4/src/liolib.c:178[stdin:2686] incompatible types: >> "IND STRUCT _

Re: [9fans] nemo book

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:20 AM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: > Does anyone here know if it's possible to obtain printed > copies of nemo's book if you live in the United States? > > Dykinson's website doesn't seem to offer overseas > shipping... > > Thanks in advance! > > -Ben > I've looked at the co

Re: [9fans] nemo book

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Benjamin Huntsman wrote: >>I'am intrigued, you have a weblink to where I could buy a printed copy >>(in europe)? > > I'm not sure you can order it online, but here is the link: > > http://www.dykinson.com/book--Notes_on_the_plan_9tm_3rd_edition_kernel_source--23247.

Re: [9fans] The first annual "Hello, World" challenge

In rc: % window 'echo hello world; sleep 5' It's probably against the spirit, but hey, it fits on a Hollerith card! Technically. In C, the quickest thing I came up with using draw is: #include #include #include void main(void) { initdraw(0, 0, "hello"); string(screen, addpt(P

[9fans] contrib tracker

I've written a little script to go through contrib and generate a markdown page showing what the last update time for the files it finds, all the way back to the start of the year. At some point I may extend it to go into previous years as well, but except for during early January of each year the

[9fans] broken contrib source

Upon trying to build /sys/src/cmd for the arm today (beagleboards came in), I found that mk was dying due to bad source installed by contrib(1) packages. mk -k install was able to get me through most of it, but the three worst offenders didn't even have mkfiles in their top levels; since I didn't r

Re: [9fans] nice quote

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Eris Discordia wrote: One serious question today would be: what's LISP _really_ good for? >> >> http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html > > I could do a similar thing: > > > > ... and leave you wondering (or not)

Re: [9fans] lisp again.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:47 AM, LiteStar numnums wrote: > Well, lisp != common lisp aside, I wouldn't mind a native CL system. I > haven't looked at the SBCL backend in quite sometime, but, assuming it's not > terribly insane, that would be a decent route. Most CL work that isn't > specific to one

Re: [9fans] OMAP35 OSWALD

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:36 PM, ron minnich wrote: > http://osel.oregonstate.edu/files/osel_newsletter_200905.pdf > > Neat stuff. It looks like something I'd buy, but it's all student > designed, even the lexan case. > > ron > They have what looks to be a decent production process... I wonder i

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

and will be arriving at the Atlanta airport at about 14:30 Tuesday. If anyone is showing up around that time and does not yet have a ride arranged, I can take a few people; email me off-list. If you have a GPS or a GPS-capable phone, all the better. John Floren -- "Object-oriented design i

Re: [9fans] rides

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:26 AM, ron minnich wrote: > confusion reigns. People I thought I was giving a ride to are coming > in at different times. > > So, let's try again. > > I have one rider: maht. > I can take two more. Roger? > > Anyway I get in 835PM on the 20th, I can take 2 people besides

[9fans] anyone in?

Anyone in yet? -- "Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike

[9fans] Poweredge 1400

Have any of you run Plan 9 on a Dell Poweredge 1400? I'm looking for a new cpu/auth/file server for home, and I'm being offered a Poweredge 1400 for the cost of shipping and handling. John -- "Object-oriented design is the roman numerals of computing" -- Rob Pike

Re: [9fans] Scanners

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote: >> > The scanner ist connect via 1G ethernet. >> > On the Touchscreen  is an Option "Scan to network". >> > The scanner scans direct to a cifs share (aquarella on >> plan9). >> > No need for spezial software except a Cifs Server. >> > The sc

Re: [9fans] etherigbe.c using _xinc?

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Russ Cox wrote: >> because it's not a Ref.  unfortunately, if it were >> a Ref, it would be much faster.  _xinc is deadly >> slow even if there is no contention on x86. > > do you have numbers to back up this claim? > I don't have the code or the numbers in front o

Re: [9fans] Shall we fix the use of Up/Dn arrows?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Yi DAI wrote: > 1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do > the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable. This is the behavior of Acme-SAC, as I recall, so one would think such a change should be easy to do (since it

Re: [9fans] contrib/gui

At Tue, 2 Feb 2010 09:23:56 -0800, ron minnich wrote: > > It's really neat -- give it a try. One thing that is not apparent is > that the packages are set up as iso's, and they are pulled down as > such, i.e. it's way faster to pull them down than running replica > against far-away sources. > > r

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

I think a lot of this info is on the Wiki already--USB disks, faces, adding users, changing the background (come on, read the man page). We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking more closely at the W

Re: [9fans] How 'bout a 9 USER site?

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:43 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Tue Feb 23 11:38:44 EST 2010, slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: >> We've also had various newbies come in and promise to create a great, >> simple site for users, but it never goes anywhere. I'd suggest looking >> more closely at the Wiki, may

Re: [9fans] Check out my photos on Facebook

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:18 PM, wrote: >> I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and >> events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it.  First, >> you need to join Facebook!  Once you join, you can also create your >> own profile. > > Is it just me, or do oth

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:09 PM, wrote: >> we've got fgb's wonderful program and I think we're crazy if we don't >> build on that. > > A deserved compliment, certainly.  Now to figure how to provide the > grouping I believe is required in addition to the means for > replication.  And, if I'm not b

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, wrote: >> http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ > > Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. > Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another > project that gets pushed onto th

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: >> Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might >> have just what we needed for the 9phone. > > 9phone? > Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, "son of bitsy". Looks like there's a lot of very cheap Android devic

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow > wrote: >> However, there is one "smart" feature that for me would be useful enough that >> carrying a big chunky thing that lives for a quarter of a day on battery >> might >> actually be wort

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Axel Belinfante wrote: > On Mar 17, 2010, at 20:13 , John Floren wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Stuart Morrow > > wrote: > > However, there is one "smart"

Re: [9fans] p9p's rio: moving windows across virtual screens

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:29 AM, lbolla wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using rio from p9p with multiple virtual screens ($> rio -virtuals > 9). > Is there a way to move a window from one screen to another? > In the man, xshove is suggested to move windows around, but it does > not seem to handle virtual

Re: [9fans] native install

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:11 PM, EBo wrote: > >> from 1 to 3. . .vmware or qemu (all of them).. . .i'm thinking >> in buying a modern PC in which i can run it natively...suggestions? > > While I have not bought one yet (money's a little tight at the moment), take a > look at http://open-pc.com/.  

Re: [9fans] bug in echo?

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You don't realize the point. I am agreeing with Kernighan and Pike: cat -v > is harmful. So is ls -M, or echo -f, or rm -i. I'm showing a ludicrous echo > command and challenging you to make it effective. What you'll find

Re: [9fans] hot or not

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Russ Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > by the way you can give it negative integers > > "By Unix admins, for Unix admins." > In the grand tradition of Unix tools doing exactly what you tell them: > > http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?I=ugu.hotnot&HN=1113&RT=11e100

Re: [9fans] FTQ benchmark available

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > measurement is hard. Let's go write drivers -- Malibu Barbie. > > > > Good Idea. > > I don't give a flying f**k how slow it is: it's still a million times > better than (random other OS) -- Malibu Dave. > > Seriously: what's the

[9fans] dealing with spam

Starting today, my account on my Plan 9 server has been getting tons of "free coupons", "free Dell XPS", "Student loans!" spam, apparently from one operator, since every domainname is in the form .com or , like eggnavajo.com, rosydeer.com, etc. It's so annoying that I may shut down my server for a

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