On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>
> Just for the record, nothing's changed:
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:44:04PM +0200, Uriel wrote:
>> Where did the Go team say explicitly they are not interested in a
>> better build system?
>
> http:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 05:36:58PM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
>>
>> Sure, feel free to make something that isn't shitty, there's plenty
>> out there that can be improved. The machinery to install Go (from
>> sources) is hardly the most importa
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 08:48:39PM +0530, Dan Cross wrote:
>
>> So are you saying that because they use bash to build the system, the
>> language is shitty? Or just the build system is shitty?
>>
>
> I have other issues with Go as a language,
/code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=256
I'm sure many people, including the core Go team, would be very happy
if somebody worked on this.
Even given my visceral hatred for dynamic linking, this would be quite
useful for things like creating Python modules in Go and other such
tasks.
So ple
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:18 PM, John Floren wrote:
> Some people would love warp-to-location for Undo/Redo, some I'm sure
> would hate it. Some people can't stand that up/down arrow keys scroll
> the page rather than move the cursor (I'm not one). Acme might benefit
> from a config file in $home/
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:34 PM, andrey mirtchovski
wrote:
>> http://alltom.com/files/misc/chords.png
>
> a suggestion?
>
> http://i.imgur.com/hjFJa.png
Ah, that is even better, I added a different green to the held button,
and updated the version at: http://acme.cat-v.org/mouse
But now I'm thi
anks, this is a quite nice visualization, but i would keep the left
button in some shade of green on the paste, cut and copy pictures, to
indicate you should hold it.
In any case hope you are ok that I added it to http://acme.cat-v.org/mouse
Thanks again.
Uriel
he
whole project a bit too seriously.
Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film.
uriel
This days probably your best chance is to work with Go (designed by
some of the creators of Plan 9 now at Google), there are quite a few
organizations using it already in production and some are hiring:
http://go-lang.cat-v.org/organizations-using-go
uriel
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Jani
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> uriel is shaney incarnate. throw me a snail address and shaney will
> send you a solstice card.
A shaney solstice card sounds awesome!
Uriel Mangado
Bråvallavägen 12
182 66 Djursholm (SWEDEN)
>
> brucee
>
> On Fri, Dec
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> uriel is shaney incarnate.
Thanks for the compliment! ;)
By the way, shaney has a new home:
http://glenda.cat-v.org/friends/mark-v-shaney/
Enjoy!
uriel
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> I put some historic papers and distribution images (copyright permitting) on
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/steve/historic, and I believe uriel
> has more on http://www.cat-v.org
All the historical papers I have colle
, and so few to do.
The EU should setup a CAP program for the software industry that paid
programmers not to program.
Unlike with the CAP, this would provide an unquestionable net-social
benefit to the world.
uriel
I recently made a fascinating archeological discovery:
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/humour/shaneys-plan9-faq
Enjoy!
uriel
inetimes
> were either signed or didn't contain personal pronouns.
Good point, they used to include the name of the author, but I think I
removed it a while ago because nobody else was posting, I should add
it back, the information is still there (i think) just need to display
it.
uriel
ribing and posted for example).
Anyone interested on being able to post articles to 9times just send
me an email and I'll create a werc editor account you can use to post
stuff.
uriel
> cu
> --
> --
> Enrico We
There are mirrors of the videos and other stuff at
http://iwp9.cat-v.org but in this case I think the original recording
is simply broken, sorry :(
uriel
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
wrote:
> I finally got around to watching Russ' Acid talk, but t
In either case one is better off not using any version control system
at all (or if you are lucky, kenfs, fossil, hg or git).
uriel
>
>> Has anyone ported SVN to plan9 (I only need the client side), or
>> alternatively is anyone using linuxemu to run the Linux binary?
>
> A
y have not independently 'discovered' this fantastic
solution to this horrible 'problem' already on their own.
Of course, they could also move with the times, and adopt an XML
format for command arguments which would be much more extensible and
Web 2.0 compliant.
That way all commands could share the same dynamically linked parser,
and one could write scripts with their favorite XML-editor!
uriel
http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/news/2009/09/07/0-mplayer9/
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Anant Narayanan wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:26 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>>>
>>> Good luck trying to get Plan 9 to play video!
>>>
>>
>> minooka; lc /sys/src/9/pc/*tv*.c
>> devtv.c vgatvp3020.c
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:31 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> I guess we'll see what happens.
We all know what will happen: more and more layers of crud will be added.
Just as Russ predicted:
From: r...@plan9.bell-labs.com (Russ Cox)
Subject: Re: [9fans] design clairvoyance & the 9 way
Da
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
>> if you have quanstro/sd installed, sdorion(3) discusses how it
>> controls the backplane lights.
>
> Um, I don't have that because I don't have any running Plan 9 instances, but
> I'll try finding it on the web (if it's been through man2html
ing function pointers
>>is BS.
>
> Even one step further, even if we all agree blocks are BS,
As I was reading this thread I kept hearing inside my head boyd's
voice screaming this at frequent intervals:
"Blocks are bollocks!"
uriel
> moving more generally,
reeing with you so far on all points you've just made. And I
> think that's why Apple is seeking feedback.
Here is some feedback for Apple: Fire your whole software and
programming division, they are making the GNU and Gnome crack monkeys
look sane, competent and responsible.
uriel
&
d library?
>
> I'm actually planning to figure this stuff out a bit more and "blog" about
> it, hopefully by Friday sometime (tomorrow).
> I don't agree that any of this stuff is strictly needed. One can plod along
> with pthreads and do it wrong all day.
on.
But I'm dumber than the Apple geniuses, and grateful for my stupidity.
uriel
So libthread must be a figment of 9fan's imagination...
Of course, for Apple (or anyone else) to learn from Plan 9 would be
impossible, so instead they had to add a new 'feature' to C.
uriel
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> Has anyone actually looked
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> 2009/9/2 Uriel :
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Anant Narayanan wrote:
>>> Mac OS 10.6 introduced a new C compiler frontend (clang), which added
>>> support for "blocks" in C [1]. B
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:46 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> I mean HTTP has a small protocol, but if you count all the things you can do
> with REST, then it looks like a lot more.
HTTP might be many things, small is not one of them. That said, your
overall point is correct.
Peace
uriel
the typical "lets come up with some cute 'feature' and
then we will figure out how to hype ourselves all the way to hell".
Peace
uriel
>
> How much effort would it be to support a feature similar to blocks in 8c
> (and family)? What are your thoughts on the idea in g
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Don Bailey wrote:
> Is there an IWP9 website for this year that provides information about dates
> and locations?
> Thanks,
I try to keep http://iwp9.cat-v.org updated with information for every year.
uriel
> D
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 a
ure. if
> the 9pcload is on 9fat, not a problem anymore.
Wonderful!
Seems that everyone won the fight in the end.
Perhaps fighting is not as useless as some make it?
Peace
uriel
l to boot somehow
precludes the use of the existing 9fat setup, this is not true, and
the whole point of the original GSoC project was precisely that: to
boot using a kernel without changing anything about 9fat and plan9.ini
so we could have a drop in replacement for 9load.
And given that such a setup
f 9fat (simple, reliable, easily
accessible from other systems, etc.)
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:34 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Uriel wrote:
>
>> plan9.ini is certainly not perfect, and I'm happy to see it changed
>> some day, but that was not what the project was about.
>
> I'm glad to know you define
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:17 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Uriel wrote:
>> Because the whole point of the project was to replace 9load, and the
>> way plan9 systems tell 9load what kernel to load is using plan9.ini
>
> no,
yes.
> the point of
Because the whole point of the project was to replace 9load, and the
way plan9 systems tell 9load what kernel to load is using plan9.ini
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:57 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Uriel wrote:
>> Can it load and parse plan9.ini?
>
> why
Can it load and parse plan9.ini?
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Iruata Souza wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Uriel wrote:
>> Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel
>> already worked just fine with what russ did years ago.
>&g
Er, it doesn't need a new PBS, booting Plan 9 from a Plan 9 kernel
already worked just fine with what russ did years ago.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:05 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:51 AM, David Leimbach wrote:
>
>> I think there's work going on
It is fine for some, it isn't for others.
uriel
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Michaelian
Ennis wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM, hiro<23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry for posting here, but I can't reach you inferno guys.
>> I don't know whet
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, roger peppe wrote:
> 2009/8/18 Uriel :
>> Interesting, this reminds me of a question I had: is there any command
>> that would read from stdin, and write to stdout, but if there was an
>> error when writing to stdout it would ignore it and cont
/ld: cannot find -lc
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
What the Fuck?!?! What kind of lunix did that?
uriel
st to keep werc's error logs clean of spurious noise.
I guess based on what you said, that I might be able to use sed, but
only until your complaint is fixed :)
uriel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:41 PM, hugo rivera wrote:
> Hi,
> is there some reason why sed doesn't check for write e
g simple can do a job
that they have convinced themselves needs to be very complicated.
uriel
The software industry is the ultimate recreation of Sisyphus' curse.
uriel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
>
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
>
>> if we're going back there, just take me out back and shoot me now.
>> i wa
If it is of any consolation, it seems to be here:
http://man.cat-v.org/plan_9/4/usbdisk
uriel
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Bela Valek wrote:
> I have checked it on 3 different installations, the 'usbdisk' manpage
> is missing, on fresh installations too. Its not a filesys
r reason for any of it. Anyone who thought
> CORBA was the answer didn't seem to understand the question.
The problem with CORBA is that it doesn't use XML, fortunately DBUS fixes that.
uriel
>> a set seccond hand (abebooks.com etc).
>>
>> The floppys are here:
>> /n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/
>>
>> I found a complete mirror of the old 2nd edition site
>> and I think uriel has copied it to cat-v.org.
>>
>> You wi
Perhaps a way to solve this problems and save you work and trouble
would be to simply link to: http://code.swtch.com/plan9port/get/tip.gz
and let mercurial do the job of building a tarball for the latest
repo.
uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Uriel wrote:
> I haven't used the ta
they are simply confused by whatever errors gnu
tar spews for who knows what reason, but people that have no problems
with other tarballs do have problems with the p9p tarballs, and it has
been going on for a while.
uriel
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Russ Cox wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at
Always get p9p from hg, the tarballs have been partially broken for
ages and always have problems being untared in some environments, hg
is fast, painless, and makes it real easy to keep your installation up
to date.
uriel
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Jason Catena wrote:
> In recen
If all you want is to preserve the -a flag, add to your profile:
; fn a { acme -a; }
Problem solved.
uriel
P.S.: Admitedly this doesn't fix up the plumber, but once you have an
acme session the plumber will use it, and you can fix it up for the
plumber equally simply.
On Fri, Aug 7, 20
here:
> /n/sources/contrib/steve/historic/2nd-edition/pcdist/
>
> I found a complete mirror of the old 2nd edition site
> and I think uriel has copied it to cat-v.org.
Yes, you can find a mirror of the 2nd ed site at
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/2nd_edition/plan9.att.com/
And t
ystem
(http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/4/proc ).
Fish also contributed some pages from section 1 of the Unix Writer's
Workbench: http://man.cat-v.org/unix_WWB/1/
Thanks again to Fish for this wonderful contributions, and of course
to the original authors of all this amazing material.
Peace
uriel
Slightly off topic (of this thread), but I'm looking for troff sources
of 8th, 9th, 10th and Plan 9 1st Editions to complete the man page
collections at http://man.cat-v.org
If anyone knows where I can find copies of any of those, I would be
most grateful.
uriel
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:
It might be worth trying to get control back, I think you can do that
for domain squatters that violate trademarks, as is clearly the case
here.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM, maht wrote:
> Uriel wrote:
>>
>> Likely Google juice, there are still plenty of high-rank li
g there lying around the net.
That and probably the amount of mistaken ad clicks are enough to cover
their registration fees, so why would they let it go?
uriel
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net
> To: 9f...@9fans.net
> Date: Sat, 2
read-only http 'tree'.
uriel
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
> There are several places which have readonly versions of sources available via
> http, alternatively there is a socks client or even htfilefs, the former uses
> the SOCKS protocol to tun
My bet is on file system performance. Where did the data come from?
9vx is also much faster, even if binaries are identical, because
fossil is such a dog.
uriel
P.S.: In my experience with werc ( http://werc.cat-v.org ) statically
linking p9p tools further increases performance considerably
han computing your own diffs based on past snapshots).
So you are on your own, you can take the code (while the site happens
to be up, or from a mirror), do whatever you like with it, but that is
all there is and all anyone can count on.
uriel
>; as such, you get at least
> the same baseline &q
one* has a right(even a duty!) to complain, and
complaints should be both welcome and heed if Plan 9 (or any project)
is to be successful.
Peace
uriel
P.S.: I got werc to work with a very simple 'magic' wrapper rc script
(I'm sure russ' cgi.c is a much better solution though, b
buting
their work, and that were feeling directly shunned and unwelcome).
uriel
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Uriel wrote:
[...]
> Maybe you can tell us what *you* have done to help Plan 9? Or is your
> greatest contribution to act all obnoxious and condescending towards
> people that despite their limited and flawed abilities have tried very
> hard to do t
ilities have tried very
hard to do their best to make Plan 9 and related technologies
successful and keep them from dying in total irrelevancy? One of my
many flaws is that my memory is very bad, so maybe I'm forgetting what
you have done...
uriel
would not mind if my health
got rid my annoying comments, some Lisp-heads have been celebrating
the demise of Erik Naggum...).
Thanks
uriel
ly to fuel
> some of the less stable elements there. afaik, the correct reporting
> method is a *polite* mail to either this list (Adriano's original mail
> seemed fine), 9trou...@plan9, or webmas...@plan9 (the address given at
> the bottom of the page).
This address is a bit difficult to find when the page itself is made
of Unobtainium.
uriel
What about using a public hg repo and letting others pick what changes
they are interested in?
uriel
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:03 AM, J.R. Mauro wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
>>> Should we put patches here, too?
>>
>> Yes. I'd like pla
mount flags under a more consistent and clear
interface.
The ability to mount and unmount 9p file servers without being root is
just a great extra.
http://sqweek.dnsdojo.org/code/9mount/
uriel
P.S.: Oh, and I think debian even packages 9mount!
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:03 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote:
With which ac97 driver?
uriel
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:13 PM, sqweek wrote:
> lies! we had ac97 working on the t23 at IWP-Bondi!
> -sqweek
>
> 2009/7/11 :
>> usb audio... havnt tried it with ac97 on my t23 yet.
>>
>> --
>> cinap
>>
>>
>&
> Google -> "list of plan 9 applications" -> click "I'm Feeling Lucky"
The result you will get from this is most likely to be extremely
outdated and incomplete. Just saying...
uriel
2009/7/10 Andrés Domínguez :
> 2009/7/10 Lorenzo Bolla :
>> Hi all,
&g
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> 2009/7/8 Uriel :
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
>>> I don't think so. We already have IPv6 support and it's not that bad.
>>> Having more drivers and supported commodi
have to admit that Coraid is an exception to this, and while they
have kept their Plan 9 usage in a low profile they have been rather
open about it, and have made huge contributions back to the community
(something that can't be said even of Bell Labs, see amd64).
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Jul 8, 20
n a 100th of the
systems out there, much less suspend or do anything useful).
As for amd64, it is already done, we are just not worthy to have access to it.
uriel
context simply means 'window manager' to keep
compatibility with all the plugins, input methods, font management and
other junk that X provides.
I could be wrong, but I have not seen any evidence that could
contradict any of this.
uriel
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Richard Miller<9f..
d ethernet if it's a cheap broadcom chip.
> And sound if it's not usb. And bluetooth so you can use your phone
> as a modem. And so on.
And C++ and Java and Flash and
(C++ is assured, given that Chrome itself is all C++)
uriel
i-gigabyes of linux
> libraries and commands. The optimistic interpretation is that they've
> rediscovered Ron's idea of borrowing a linux kernel as a minimal (sic)
> device driver layer to put a sensible OS on top of, and throwing
> everything else away.
You can be sure we wont be so lucky. A huge amount of gnu/gnome guck is assured.
uriel
Er, that was meant to be the standard *Lunix* mount command.
uriel
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Uriel wrote:
> The standard Unix mount command sucks (but then, so does v9fs, but
> that is another story), use sqweek's wonderful 9mount command that
> will make your life much les
The standard Unix mount command sucks (but then, so does v9fs, but
that is another story), use sqweek's wonderful 9mount command that
will make your life much less miserable in the dark world of Linux:
http://sqweek.dnsdojo.org/code/9mount/
Peace
uriel
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:55 AM,
Thanks for the info! I had been wondering about this for many years.
And what of ^A and ^E? I have heard them being credited to Emacs, but
people believes so many silly things this days...
Peace
uriel
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Rob Pike wrote:
> I believe ^H ^W ^U date back at least
remely annoying mapping of backspace to the back
button when a text field is not focused, which is also extremely
frustrating when you hit it by mistake and your current page (often
with all text) is lost.
Oh, and note that unfortunately due to current limitations in the
Chrome extensions API, this changes only apply to text fields in the
page, not to the url bar :(
uriel
>
> Russ
>
>
ts and apps.
I also would be interested in hearing more details on the exact
origins of ^H ^W and ^U.
Now back to your usual 9fans schedule, enjoy your keyboard vs. mouse flame
uriel
P.S.: I even recently wrote a Google Chrome extension to implement the
Unix text editing keyboard shortcuts in
urse to the speakers and workshop organizers.
Enjoy
uriel
P.S.: I also have collected photos taken by various people at:
http://iwp9.cat-v.org/2008/photos/ if you have photos that you would
like added to collection just send them to me.
know and I will add you to
the Planet 9, if you know of any Plan 9 or Inferno related blogs that
are not included, let me know too.
Enjoy http://planet9.cat-v.org
uriel
mpt to coerce people by shaming them in a
> public situation. It's what my kids used to do when they could not get
> their favorite dessert in the store. It doesn't make anyone feel any
> better. It's why so many people have Uriel in their kill files.
It makes people aware of a problem that many keep denying and
demeaning. If people can't deal with reality, there are always kill
files, as you point out.
uriel
le reason for Plan 9 servers to be unreliable,
others with very little resources have managed to run public Plan 9
servers in their spare time that have proved to be much more reliable
than sources.
Peace
uriel
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:52 PM, wrote:
>> You may think it's a questio
t that Plan 9 clearly wants no users and no developers, so
reliability is to be avoided, or it might attract some interest from
people that might help, and that would be bad.
Peace
uriel
welcome.
If you expect people to contribute to Plan 9 on their copious spare
time while they are being treated with this kind of contempt, good
luck to you, you are going to need it.
Thank you
uriel
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Rud
Ah, very cool, break is one of the few things I have missed in rc some times.
What do you think of adding return? I have wanted it a few times and
Rob seems to think it makes sense to add it:
http://9fans.net/archive/2003/03/44
Thanks!
uriel
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:52 AM, erik quanstrom
can email it to me or
tell me where I could find it.
The source for the app that displays the manual pages can be found as
part of the standard werc distribution at http://werc.cat-v.org under
apps/wman/, patches, bug reports and suggestions are very welcome too
;)
Peace
uriel
are
'synthetically' generated on the fly.
> is run under anything but Plan9. Ironically it doesn't
> seem to run there.
It does run under any CGI environment, there are various ways to
provide a CGI environment in Plan 9.
uriel
ck. i believe with
> the current state of the Internet -- e.g. lack of speed and security
> -- service abstraction is the right level of distributedness.
> presenting the services as file hierarchy makes sense; 9p is efficient
9p is efficient as long as your latency is <30ms
uriel
&g
We can't tell you who uses Plan 9, because it is a secret and they
don't want anyone to learn about their secret competitive advantage.
/sarcasm (But still sadly true.)
uriel
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Balwinder S Dheeman
wrote:
> On 04/18/2009 01:02 AM, Gorka Guardiola wro
a more detailed howto, patches and docs welcome ;)
Peace
uriel
n using all along were really aberrations of the real
idea, which is quite neat and interesting. Sort of similar to the
process of going from various (l)unixes to Plan 9.
Peace
uriel
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
>> Writing the core of a blog engine in three lines of rc is hard to
>> beat, plus you get the benefit of being able to manipulate and manage
>> all your data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
>>
>
e designed to work on and with files and file paths.
uriel
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Fri Apr 17 08:33:12 EDT 2009, urie...@gmail.com wrote:
>> And then you would need some hideous SQL database.
>>
>> As ken said: we have persistent objects
ur data using the tools any self respecting Unix user loves.
uriel
For 37EUR you can get a more minimalist board:
http://landashop.com/catalog/routerboard-rb411-p-73.html
Still plenty of power to run Inferno...
uriel
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Uriel wrote:
> Very nice, found it in Europe for ~50 EUR:
> http://landashop.com/catalog/ub
Very nice, found it in Europe for ~50 EUR:
http://landashop.com/catalog/ubiquiti-routerstation-p-848.html
And for a few EUR more you can get the 'Pro' version with four
Gigabit Ethernet ports and 256Mb of RAM:
http://landashop.com/catalog/ubiquiti-routerstation-p-916.html
uriel
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resources. I agree with Alex that the best is Public Domain, or at
least BSD/MIT/ISC-style license, which is as close as you can get to
Public Domain while retaining copyright.
Peace
uriel
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 10:46 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 04:42:18PM -0400, J.R. Maur
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