Re: Who has created a directory called "~/updates"
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:08:11 +0100 Joachim Backes wrote: > I'm running F27, and found coincidentally a directory called > ~/updates containing megs of RPMs in my home directory. Does anybody > know wherefrom these entries are coming? Did you by chance define a local repository in /etc/yum.repos.d? Or could it be that you used it for something at some point, and then forgot about it? Are the rpms in the directory recent? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fw: Who has created a directory called "~/updates"
Sent to me personally instead of the list, forwarded. Begin forwarded message: Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:10:07 +0100 From: Joachim Backes To: stan Subject: Re: Who has created a directory called "~/updates" On 01/31/18 19:49, stan wrote: > On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:08:11 +0100 > Joachim Backes wrote: > >> I'm running F27, and found coincidentally a directory called >> ~/updates containing megs of RPMs in my home directory. Does anybody >> know wherefrom these entries are coming? > > Did you by chance define a local repository in /etc/yum.repos.d? > > Or could it be that you used it for something at some point, and then > forgot about it? Are the rpms in the directory recent? > Same time, same date. -- Fedora release 27 (Twenty Seven) Kernel-4.14.15-301.fc27.x86_64 Joachim Backes https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: secure boot disabled
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:53:22 +0100 AV wrote: > However after install I find 'secure boot disabled'. > $ dmesg | grep -i secure > [0.00] secureboot: Secure boot disabled > [5.630671] Loaded UEFI:MokListRT cert 'Fedora Secure Boot CA: > fde32599c2d61db1bf5807335d7b20e4cd963b42' linked to secondary sys > keyring > $ ls -l /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/Secure* > -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 5 Jan 31 16:33 > /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/SecureBoot-8be4df61-93ca-11d2-aa0d- > 00e098032b8c I don't know much about this, but I would interpret this as saying that you have secure boot. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will confirm. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to audit chmod syscall system wide? a wired problem of home directory group write permission got set
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 20:06:38 + (UTC) "mr.cheng" wrote: > I checked all bash_history and system logs, didn't see any explicit > bash call of "chmod g+w ..." ; so I suspect some software is calling > by chmod syscall, What is your umask set as? That determines what permissions new files get. It is often set explicitly in ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc I have a line in .bashrc of umask 0077 and my files are created as rw-- if they are non executable. umask [-p] [-S] [mode] The user file-creation mask is set to mode. If mode begins with a digit, it is interpreted as an octal number; otherwise it is interpreted as a symbolic mode mask similar to that accepted by chmod(1). If mode is omitted, the current value of the mask is printed. The -S option causes the mask to be printed in symbolic form; the default output is an octal number. If the -p option is supplied, and mode is omitted, the output is in a form that may be reused as input. The return status is 0 if the mode was successfully changed or if no mode argument was supplied, and false otherwise. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 27 curl 7.55.1 ignore self-signed certificates
On Wed, 31 Jan 2018 16:26:39 -0200 Kleber Rocha wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problema with curl, in Fedora 26, I imported the certificate > into the /etc/pki/ca-trust/source/anchors/, and after I run the > command: update-ca-trust extract, after that, curl trust on the > self-signed certificate. > > But, in Fedora 27, I do the same configuration, but curl don't trust > in the self-signed certificate. I vaguely recall seeing something on this list or devel about self signed certificates being banned; I can't remember if that was just about firefox or fedora in general. Maybe someone else here has a better memory. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: how to audit chmod syscall system wide? a wired problem of home directory group write permission got set
On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 01:41:43 + (UTC) "mr.cheng" wrote: > On Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 4:37:02 PM PST, stan > wrote: > > I checked all bash_history and system logs, didn't see any explicit > > bash call of "chmod g+w ..." ; so I suspect some software is > > calling by chmod syscall, > > > What is your umask set as? That determines what permissions new > > files > > I did search of umask in bash_history log or any system wide logs, > didn't see any manual changes of umask, and checking its value now, > is still the default 0022 as I understand, umask applies for new > files creation only, while my home directory existed for a long time, > since the system installation > > > for those Linux servers, fortunately I still have other accounts can > login to check, and run sudo chmod g-w /home/user; it looks like only > the most often used account is affected; many other user accounts > under /home have no impact. Sorry I misunderstood. It is really strange that existing directories would have their permissions changed without any action on your part. Like you, I can't see any reason for a virus to do this. Is there any new user attached to your group in /etc/group? I think it is more likely that a process is doing it because of a bug. Maybe write a shell script that checks permissions on your home directory every 5 minutes, writes it to a file if there is no change. If there is a change, it notifies you. Then you can examine what you are doing and look at the programs that are running. Maybe someone else here will be able to give you better guidance. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: secure boot disabled
On Thu, 01 Feb 2018 12:17:26 +0100 AV wrote: > I very much doubt this. On a pc with secure boot you see: > > $ dmesg |grep -i secure > [0.00] secureboot: Secure boot enabled > [0.00] Kernel is locked down from EFI secure boot; see man > kernel_lockdown.7 > [1.364686] Loaded UEFI:MokListRT cert 'Fedora Secure Boot CA: > fde32599c2d61db1bf5807335d7b20e4cd963b42' linked to secondary sys > keyring > > Furthermore at boot (after grub kernel choices) the line: > "EFI Stub: Secure Boot enabled" is shown. I'm chastised for my ignorance. Thanks for the information. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Copying/duplicating files from ServerA to ServerB
On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:36:25 -0500 bruce wrote: > Looking to completely duplicate/replicate one server to > another.Running Centos/Fed. I've seen a number of different > articles/etc on different ways of doing this. > > Assuming I'm not using chef/puppet/ansible/etc can anyone give > thoughts on best approaches for this. Articles are cool as well. > > Key Items: > -Need to Maintain same users/passwds > -Need to maintain all dirs/files heirarchy > -Need all system/3rd party processes/apps running > -All config/cron files > -All port/db/ssh functions.. > > I'm testing the process to do this on cheap cloud vms so I can screw > up as I figure out best approach for this. > > Thoughts/comments? I would use # rsync -C -x -u -a -v -A -X / /[new mount point without a trailing /] You will have to clean up /boot and /etc/fstab so it will boot properly. You can read the rsync docs to see what it is doing. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Copying/duplicating files from ServerA to ServerB
On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:12:27 -0500 bruce wrote: > does the rsync handle "hidden" files/dirs?? Yes. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsync question
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 12:16:47 -0500 bruce wrote: > Is there an attribute or approach to allow/force rsync to redo a > "complete" xfer of files..? I'm not aware of a way, and it makes sense. If the identical file is already there, why would rsync spend the resources to replace it? If you want to re-transfer everything, just rm -rf the files and directories on the destination. Be careful that you are definitely in the right directory, as this will wipe out everything below the directory where you run the command. If you just want to change owner:group, permissions or attributes use the chown, chmod, or chcon programs on the destination. This can be recursive with the -R option. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 22:25:19 +0100 "Patrick Dupre" wrote: > The Hardware of the PC does not let me access to any monitor > configuration. It seems that every thing is automatic (It is a recent > Asus Motherboard). This doesn't seem right. Have you checked on their website? > The new monitor says that it is running with a resolution > 1920x1080@60Hz. I guess that it may be correct if I check on the > pictures, but the bizarre thing is that the characters are just > difficult to read, like if there is a lack of resolution. I can > switch to 1366x768. > I do not know what to do. There was a conversation here about 6 months ago about the introduction of a different level of font hinting and a different font optimizer that many people found problematic. That is probably where your problem, and your solution, lies. The details have faded for me, but I think there is a setting that can be increased to use more hinting, and it is still possible to use the old font optimizer by specifying a setting different than the default. At least that should send you in the right direction. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:18:59 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > Do you happen to remember the program's name? If so, it would be a > great help to anybody who needs it. It's a package, not a program, and it turns out to be freetype. They switched default font rendering, and turned off hinting. Here is some relevant information from the thread begun by Heinz Diehl. """ for those who love razorsharp fonts just like me but got the new v40 interpreter coming with freetype-2.7 enforced on them when installing F26: the good old v35 interpreter is still there (and I hope it will be forever). You can use it by setting the environment variable FREETYPE_PROPERTIES=truetype:interpreter-version=35 If you also want subpixel rendering, which now is disabled by default, you can dig into the foption.h file in the config directory of the freetype sourcecode, uncomment the option and recompile. I have never been able to understand why people like the blurry and muddy Micro$oft-like font rendering... gaah.. Now we have to hack the source to get rid of that crap. https://tinyurl.com/ybf3fkwv """ """ > where are you setting this? Global environment variables belong into /etc/profile, and local ones into .bash_profile in your home directory. Here's the diff to re-enable subpixel rendering (simply uncommenting the option): diff -urN a/freetype-2.7.1/include/freetype/config/ftoption.h b/freetype-2.7.1/include/freetype/config/ftoption.h --- a/freetype-2.7.1/include/freetype/config/ftoption.h 2016-12-11 07:53:49.0 +0100 +++ b/freetype-2.7.1/include/freetype/config/ftoption.h 2017-07-13 20:51:26.727210939 +0200 @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ /* This is done to allow FreeType clients to run unmodified, forcing */ /* them to display normal gray-level anti-aliased glyphs. */ /* */ -/* #define FT_CONFIG_OPTION_SUBPIXEL_RENDERING */ +#define FT_CONFIG_OPTION_SUBPIXEL_RENDERING """ """ > where are you setting this? If you aren't using wayland, session-wide environment variables can be set in scripts added to the /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/ directory. """ """ > to do something similar in wayland. By exporting the env var in ~/.bash_profile and possibly in a script in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; have a look at: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736660#c63 """ """ freetype-freeworld on rpmfusion.org has subpixel rendering enabled. http://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/releases/26/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/freetype-freeworld.html """ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dual screen
On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 17:18:59 -0800 Joe Zeff wrote: > Do you happen to remember the program's name? If so, it would be a > great help to anybody who needs it. In thinking about this a little more, I wonder if fred doesn't have the right of it. Using monitors with different resolutions and dot pitches at the same time must play havoc with font selection. Maybe it's taken care of automatically by the desktop. What happens with laptops that use an external monitor that's a different size than their built in screen, especially larger? Do they have this font discord? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install the new Video Download Helper Companion App and have Firefox recognize it
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 07:48:22 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > VDH will not download most videos from YouTube. (Was that the idea?) That's been a suspicion I've had as well. A requirement for further funding? For some reason, content providers frown on the practice of viewers downloading their creations. :-) The splitting of extensions into two parts *does* improve security, however, so it could be legit. > Has anyone gotten that companion app to work? If so, how may I do it? Sort of. When dwhelper fails to download a video, at the bottom of the drop down when the icon is clicked, you will see a details link. Click on that, and you will likely see that one of the libraries in ~/net.downloadhelper.coapp-1.1.3/converter/build/linux/64/ is failing. I converted some of the files there to symbolic links to the equivalent files on Fedora. In particular, ffmpeg, ffplay, ffprobe, and libz so far. dwhelper is developed using ubuntu, and I think they expect libraries in different places and with different names. I vaguely recall I had it working properly when I replaced every file there with a link, but every upgrade overwrites that, so I haven't tried it for a while since it is tedious to do. With that change, it downloads files when I click on them. However, it only saves small files. It downloads large files, I see the large temporary file, but when it tries to save them, it writes some kind of small meaningless file. I haven't found the reason yet. I recall seeing something about the app being open source, so I was going to get the source and see what it was doing / why it was failing. When I click the configuration option that says 'save temporary files', it doesn't. One alternative would be to hack firefox to put in a switch that saves files as they are being viewed. That's a lot more work, and requires domain and C++ knowledge. Probably beyond me. ant video downloader might be an alternative, but they were focusing on windows the last time I tried them. Yeah, the new firefox might be great internally, but it sure took a hit for user customization and extensibility. Another alternative is to get firefox 57 from koji and run it in a virtual machine. The ant video downloader and dwhelper for 57 and before are still available on their websites, so you can istall them, and tell firefox not to automatically update extensions. Then, when you want to download a file, just use that firefox to do it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to install the new Video Download Helper Companion App and have Firefox recognize it
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 17:46:48 -0500 Temlakos wrote: > Did it make any difference that I tried to install it system-wide, > and not for a user only? I can't say for sure, but it didn't for me as I followed the instructions from their web page for user. If it works for Andras, it must be something about my (and your) system setup causing the problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Uefi/csm -
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 12:15:05 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t > been able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be > setup to boot uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to > dual boot with Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the > legacy option is best in my case. > > Is that rightor am I missing something? My understanding is that secure boot is to protect from unauthorized access to the machine, and prevent unauthorized software from running on the machine. Important for things like laptops that are liable to be stolen, but less necessary for home desktop computers. That is, I agree with you. But I look forward to seeing the reasoning of people who disagree. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:49:12 + (UTC) Amadeus WM wrote: > I accidentally deleted my inbox messages. I'm accessing my email via > pop3 and they are still on the server, but when click "Get Mail" in > claws- mail, nothing happens. Probably claws-mail knows I once had > them and deleted them, so it's not bringing them again. > > Is there any way to trick claws-mail into re-downloading my inbox > messages? I haven't done this, but it should work. Exit claws mail. In your home directory there is a directory called .claws-mail. In that directory there is another directory called uidl. Go into that directory and do an ls. Look for the file of the email account that you are interested in resetting. Edit its file, and remove the last X entries, enough to capture all the messages that you accidentally deleted. Save it, and now restart claws mail. If you click get mail, it should download the messages you deleted (actually, all the X messages whose markers you removed from the file you edited). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:52:31 + (UTC) Amadeus WM wrote: > That's what I've been looking for, seems to be working. Thank you > very much! You're welcome. > I'm glad I wasn't using IMAP. No kidding. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 11:58:36 - "Farhad Mohammadi Majd" wrote: > Hello, I have an old PC from 2008 which has integrated graphics > processors (IGP), I did install Fedora 26 few months ago and it had > mentioned problem, I used "nomodeset" kernel parameter for boot > during installation and local boot, but I didn't report the problem. > > Today I did install Fedora 27 (Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-27-1.6) > and same problem was exist, fortunately Fedora 27 is smarter and it > added "nomodeset" kernel parameter to the GRUB configuration file for > local boot, so there is no need to enter it manually to GRUB. > > > $ lspci | grep VGA > > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. > [AMD/ATI] RS740 [Radeon 2100] > > Please guide me step-by-step to solve this problem, thank you. It isn't clear to me from your description what your problem is. Is there no video? Is the video at the wrong resolution? Does X (or wayland) fail to start? If your system is using the radeon driver from the kernel, I think that is the best that the kernel provides for older radeon hardware. There is an amdgpu module for newer hardware. wayland might not support older hardware. In X, you will need to be sure that the correct xorg-X11-driver package is installed, xorg-x11-drv-ati. What does lsmod show for the module the kernel is using? What shows in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? Can you successfully boot into multiuser (runlevel 3)? When the grub menu comes up, you can hit a key and edit the kernel option line to add a 3 to the end of it to boot into multiuser. If you can, what happens if you then run the command startx? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 20:07:52 +0330 Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > What does lsmod show for the module the kernel is using? > > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/h7C~gfz~QdvZ~nueqbbXBQ > The radeon driver is not being loaded by the kernel. It has support for your card, from what I can find online. This is what is causing your lack of hardware support. I run the radeon driver and when I do lsmod | grep -i radeon I get radeon 1552384 12 > > What shows in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? > > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/MIiOaUrOOjtDGWSZ-Xo5XQ > The X module for radeon shows support for the RS740 (your card). > > Can you successfully boot into multiuser (runlevel 3)? > > Yes, I did add "3" to the end of the line that begins with "linux" and > removed "nomodeset" parameter to boot as normal, see the line "Kernel > command line" Could you try doing a dnf distro-sync as root from runlevel 3, just to be sure no cruft was left around from the upgrade to F27. I notice that your X was compiled on F26, and it should have updated to an F27 version, I think. After that, try rebooting with the nomodeset gone from the kernel line. I think it is adding nomodeset because the radeon driver is not loading. Could you show the kernel settings line? What is the resolution on the virtual console when you boot into runlevel 3? Until the kernel loads the radeon module at startup, your video card is not going to work properly. Something is preventing it from doing that. If you type the command journalctl -b and look through the output, do you see any error when the kernel tries to load the radeon module? What does the negotiation look like for video? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: setting screen resolution at boot
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 19:47:25 -0700 JD wrote: > Hi all, > on fc27: > how do I set the screen resolution to less than 1920X1080 ? > I would like to reduce it to something like 1280X1080 > Is that "doable"? (Pardon my use of doable :) :) > I would like the DT (Mate) to respect that resolution and show > everything on desktop as if that is the HW resolution. I think you meant 1280x720. But if your monitor is digital, this is a bad idea. There was a recent discussion on this list about why it is a bad idea; the summary is that the dots will not align properly for text on a lower resolution. Everything will look fuzzy. If you are using X, and an analog monitor, you can put a configuration file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d. A search on the web will give you the format. Use xrandr to get the numbers to plug in. I don't know how to do this for wayland. But I think the better thing for you to do is to up the size of fonts that everything uses, if possible. Text will look a lot better. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Weirdnes on screen when booting.
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 15:53:45 +0100 "Ger van Dijck" wrote: > Hi Fedora, > > > When booting Fedora 27 (fully updated) suddenly totaly unpredicted > sometimes I get three aps on screen : Home , Filesystem root and Boot. > > If this is the case suddenly in the directory Computer appears the > aps Boot,Filesystem root,Home and File system : Normally I get > following content : PLUS DVD +/-RW DU-8A5HH , ST1000LHN101MBB system > reserved , ST etc.Ger (my name) ,ST etc. Windows 10 Pro and File > system. > > You understand when this happens I cannot approach the DVD/CD > reader/burner and the other aps , that normally in the directory > Computer are listed , anymore . > > How can I correct this failure ? I am not sure what you mean by aps, but I'll assume you are talking about an icon or menu item. I can't tell you how to correct this, but it sounds like an intermittent bug. When this happens at boot, and when it doesn't, run journalctl -b, and cut the part of the boot that is concerned with mounting filesystems and paste it into a text file. Then, do a diff on the two files to see what is different in them. That should point to what is happening, and allow you to open a bugzilla against the proper component to get this fixed. The types of things you are talking about are usually mounted based on the information in /etc/fstab. But that doesn't match with Windows being in the list. Is this before linux starts, the menu of what system to start? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 26 & 27 are unable to boot with normal graphic mode on this PC with AMD/ATI RS740 [Radeon 2100] GPU
On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 15:29:18 - "Farhad Mohammadi Majd" wrote: > Instead of upgrade, I did install LightDM, then stop-disable > gdm.service and enable lightdm.service, then I did boot Fedora without > "nomodeset" kernel parameter and the result was LightDM ran on the > highest resolution supported by the monitor, 1920x1080, but like the > past, none of the available sessions can't start, I did reboot again > without "nomodeset" and log-in as normal user in one TTY then `startx' > the below log is for this: > > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/HlME-Kh45WrnP8tkA02fdw > This seems strange RADEON(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 285 but everything else looks good right up until you switch back to a virtual console. So, I think there is an error in the startup of the gnome desktop you are using. Can you try another desktop? The lightest weight desktop available is LXDE, so it wouldn't take a lot of installs. And, because it is so simple, it is likely to be less affected by any conflicts that are affecting your gnome desktop. I think there is also a way to tell Gnome to run X instead of wayland from the desktop manager. Have you tried that? When the desktop fails to start, and you switch to a virtual console, if you run journalctl -r (reverse) there should be an indication of what went wrong with the desktop startup also. Here's another method. Boot into runlevel 3. Then run the commands below in your home directory. This boots Gnome directly into X. The advantage here is that the errors will display in the terminal if Gnome fails to start. echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS chmod +x $XCLIENTS echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS startx > you can see them in log files in the line begins with "Kernel command > line" > > " ro nomodeset rhgb quiet LANG=en_US.UTF-8" > If this were a kernel problem, it might be worthwhile to remove quiet, but for the actual issue this line is fine (you might want to permanently remove the nomodeset, though, since your card supports modeset). > > What is the resolution on the virtual console when you boot into > > runlevel 3? > > the highest resolution supported by the monitor, 1920x1080 Your kernel and driver are just fine. You can confirm by running lsmod | grep radeon and seeing radeon show up. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: setting screen resolution at boot
On Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:54:08 -0700 JD wrote: > Interesting!!! I am not familiar with that, as this is the first time > I am encountering this problem of fedora on a 1920x1200 screen. > 1. Default fonts are just too small. > 2. Icons of running apps on the bottom panel of Mate DT > are incredibly small and undiscernible. > 3. On the first gui login creen, if click on the tiny icon of power > switch, the drop down menu is so tiny, I have to use 2.0 power > reading glasses to see where the Shutdown, or Restart selections are. I can understand why you want to fix this. > I have done that, but I thought it is a rather kludgey thing to do, > because there does not seem to be a system-wide setting that > is used by all components of system and apps. You might get some ideas from this older question from someone with the same issue. https://askubuntu.com/questions/675015/high-resolution-screen-creates-tiny-icons-and-text-with-mate-desktop ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Claws-Mail filters -
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 10:49:02 -0500 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I wanted to try Claws-Mail but after several days of sporadic > attempts to filter messages into my usual directories I am ready to > admit defeat and remove Claws. It was installed via dnf in this > updated Fedora 27. I asked on the Claws list but there was no > response. It's a little convoluted (so is my explanation below). Suppose I want to send all the mail from you to a spam folder. I would click on Tools -> Create Filter rule. I haven't used automatically, so I'm not sure what will happen there. To get rid of your mail, I would click By From. This brings up the list of current rules. It shows your address, but a blank action. I click on the Define button to the right of Action. It brings up a window with move as the default action. I click on the Select, to select where I want your mail moved. Let's say I already have a mail folder called spam_folder (it has to be defined in claws), and I just click on that. Then, here's the tricky part, I have to add it to the actions before I say OK. Then I have to add it to the list of rules before I say OK. Now, the filter is all set and will work. > As a last resort perhaps someone can give me an example of a working > set of entries for the filter menu? I tried what appeared reasonable > based on what help I found in google but it always refused to save. You probably skipped a step, see above. The actual filter rules are in a file called matcherrc in the directory ~/.claws-mail. Here is an example for folder bugzilla using one of the built-ins (from) (should be single line, wrapped on re-editing) enabled rulename "" from matchcase "bugzi...@redhat.com" move "#mh/Mailbox/bugzilla" Here's one for a non default header component (should be single line, wrapped on re-editing) enabled rulename "" header "Authentication-Results" matchcase "spf=fail" move "#mh/Mailbox/spam_folder" If you decide to make your rules by editing the matcherrc file, be sure that claws is not running. Claws might not be suitable for your work flow. So it goes. That's why choice is so great, we all get the tools we want to use. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Razer laptop Caps-lock key of the death
On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 16:26:10 +0100 Jeandet Alexis wrote: > I tried to add XKBOPTIONS="ctrl:nocaps" in /etc/default/keyboard. This won't work for wayland. You would have to run X. > I'm using Gnome with Wayland. Any idea? Stop using wayland. This is an area of wayland that hasn't been brought up to the same standard as X. I use a custom keymap, and there is no way to tell wayland that (last I checked). It will probably happen at some point, but this is a pretty obscure use case, and they have bigger fish to fry right now. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Starting programs when no internet connection is available
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 12:48:35 +0100 ni...@posteo.de wrote: > Hello, > > I'm encountering a strange issue with my Fedora 27 Gnome installation. > I'm sometimes connected to a WiFi network without a working Internet > connection. When that's the case, some programs like Firefox, > Thunderbird or even LibreOffice take really long to start. As soon as > I disable the connection to that particular network (e.g. by enabling > Airplane Mode), everything works smooth again. > > Any thoughts why that might be? Thoughts only, not sure if they are true. My suspicion is that they are made aware of the connection from network manager as if it is active, so try to access it, and then have to wait a period of time until they decide it is not active. A few months ago there was a discussion here about how network manager decides that a network connection is live before it has actually connected. I think it would be neat if network manager did a ping of a / the dns address associated with a connection before marking the connection as active. Maybe that isn't possible. I don't think there is a solution to your issue other than the one you've already found, or waiting for the timeout. PS pedantic note, no sanction, 'works smooth' should be 'works smoothly'. smooth is an adjective, smoothly is the adverb. Though there are lots of native speakers who don't adhere to that e.g. real and really, 'worked real hard' vs 'worked really hard'. For them, not you, it's a sign of poor education, and thus a class indicator. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
looking for nonlinear optimizer with constraints accessible from python
I want to solve a small (a few hundred variables) nonlinear optimization problem with constraints in Fedora. I've found the scipy optimization routines, but they are for unconstrained problems. And there are the coin-or routines (ipopt, etc.), but they are not easily accessible from python. Fedora doesn't package pyomo, which can access them, so I've installed it to --user, but it seems like overkill, so I'm still looking. I would like something like pulp for linear programming; the closest I've found is pyOpt, and I like its interface, but it hasn't been maintained for 4 years, and it throws errors indicating that it might be incompatible with more recent versions of numpy (f2py) and multiarray. It can't find the shared libraries, compiled into python using f2py, of the fortran77 optimization routines it uses. So, before I go the pyomo route, does anyone have any recommendations for simple python accessible software that would do this in Fedora? Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 10:36:33 +0100 François Patte wrote: > When I log-in, sound is deactivated and I have to manually start it, > doing: Are you sure sound is deactivated? Is it possible it is trying to use the digital output associated with your video card? It is usually found first because video comes up before sound, and thus gets the coveted position 0 that is the sound default. > 1- > killall -9 pulseaudio > > 2- > start-pulseaudio-x11 > > 3- open mixer go to "configation" tab and choose analogic stero > duplex. > > What is wrong in my sound config and how to correct this. After 3, when sound is working, open pavucontrol, go to the output devices tab, and click the green checkmark on the device that you want pulseaudio to start with. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: What do you open .mobi files with??
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:18:08 + (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I > try to stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be > some Fedora- native ebook reader! package fbreader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: What do you open .mobi files with??
On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 13:45:43 -0700 stan wrote: > On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 20:18:08 + (UTC) > Beartooth wrote: > > > Something on sourceforge has been recommended to me, but I > > try to stick to things that dnf can install. Surely there must be > > some Fedora- native ebook reader! > > package fbreader After I sent this I checked the date, and this is a very old package. It still works, though. You can probably go here, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5070 and get the last version that successfully compiled. Then install it using dnf -C install fbreader-[version, etc.] ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:03:32 +0100 François Patte wrote: > > After 3, when sound is working, open pavucontrol, go to the output > > devices tab, and click the green checkmark on the device that you > > want pulseaudio to start with. > > That is what I do evetime I lo-in but this does not survive to a > log-out That should take effect immediately, and pulse should store it immediately. Something is wrong in the configuration of your system. Is there anything in the logs about pulse or alsa failures after you set your system up the way you want? How about problems during discovery at boot in recognizing the sound devices? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 09:06:12 +0100 François Patte wrote: > journactl -u pulseaudio (or alsa*) returns nothing > > > How about problems during > > discovery at boot in recognizing the sound devices? > > How can I check that? It sounds like you need a stronger approach. Can you go here https://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug and download the alsainfo.sh script and run it. Put the output in a file when it asks you. Then use fpaste (a fedora package) to put the file in the fedora project pastebin. That will give you a link that you can post here so it is possible to examine your setup in more detail. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 18:50:20 +0100 François Patte wrote: > Here is the link: > > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5ebae0714f190eceb8b6ff7ceb435f434d48ad85 From that output, you should have sound. Your system put the PCM (analog) card in the 0 slot, and that is the default location for sound to be routed to pulseaudio. Do you by chance have a configuration file for sound in /etc/modprobe.d that assigns a default device other than 0? You could also do a man pulse-client.conf and check the locations at the top of that to see if you have a pulse configuration file that is overriding your settings via the gui. Especially in your home directory. Also in ~/.config/pulse there should be a file with []-default-source. Look at that to be sure that it is pointing to device 0, and analog. It doesn't make sense that you don't have sound. I can offer no more help, perhaps you should post on the alsa-user mailing list, with the link you showed here, to see if anyone there has an answer. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:08:46 +0100 François Patte wrote: > But in /usr/lib/modprobe.d/ I have a dist-alsa.conf file with: > > # ALSA Sound Support > # > # We want to ensure that snd-seq is always loaded for those who want > to use # the sequencer interface, but we can't do this automatically > through udev # at the moment...so we have this rule (just for the > moment). # > # Remove the following line if you don't want the sequencer. > > install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm && > /sbin/modprobe snd-seq > > Don't know what it means I also have that and sound works fine here. So, I would say not a problem. > In ~/.config/pulse I have: > bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-sink > bd9a117e29a44dd4b335896e866a41d2-default-source > > Which are empty when I log-in (in that case the config is: "sortie > stéréo numérique (iec958) + entrée stéréo analogique" which does not > work, no sound) You must have run alsainfo.sh after you corrected your system because this is not what it showed. It showed that the default was pcm (analog). For some reason, at start up, your system is defaulting to the iec958 (digital) interface on your nvidia card at startup. What happens if immediately after startup you run? aplay -D plughw:0,0 [some wav file here] It has to be a wav file as there is no decoding in aplay. You should get sound without making any changes to configuration. > If I change, in the config tab, to duplex stéréo analogique (which > works) and going to the "output peripheric" tab and press the button > "define as alternative" these two files in ~/.config/pulse, have > alsa_input.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo inside, but these files are > erased at next login/boot. This is correct, but the erasure, I don't know where that is coming from. > > It doesn't make sense that you don't have sound. > > What could erase the files source/sink in my ~/.config/pulse and why > does the fedora default config does not follow the man > pulse-client.conf for, according to this manual, there should be a > ~/.config/pulse/client.conf file or > ~/.config/pulse/client.conf.d/*.conf files... I suspect, because of the signature at the front, that those files are recreated by pulse at each start. I think *you* have to create the configuration files in your ~/.config/pulse directory. Try this: cp the /etc/pulse/client.conf file to ~/.config/pulse. Edit the home directory file and change the line ; default-sink = to default-sink = hw:0,0 That should do the right thing at next boot. If it doesn't work, run pulseaudio --dump-conf Then paste the output and the contents of /etc/pulse/default.pa somewhere and show the link here. That tells the settings that pulse defaults to and how it is actually running. Do the run after boot and before you make any changes. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: sound problem
On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 11:33:36 +0100 François Patte wrote: > > You must have run alsainfo.sh after you corrected your system > > because this is not what it showed. It showed that the default was > > pcm (analog). For some reason, at start up, your system is > > defaulting to the iec958 (digital) interface on your nvidia card at > > startup. > > Not the nvidia card: I recently installed this card and the problem > existed before. That's good information. > > > What > > happens if immediately after startup you run? > > aplay -D plughw:0,0 [some wav file here] > > It has to be a wav file as there is no decoding in aplay. You > > should get sound without making any changes to configuration. > > Yes, that works So, it's only a configuration issue. The hardware is being recognized and initialized correctly, but not set to analog as default. > > I suspect, because of the signature at the front, that those files > > are recreated by pulse at each start. I think *you* have to create > > the configuration files in your ~/.config/pulse directory. > > > > Try this: > > cp the /etc/pulse/client.conf file to ~/.config/pulse. > > Edit the home directory file and change the line > > ; default-sink = > > to > > default-sink = hw:0,0 > > This does not work. It was a guess, using alsa conventions. I couldn't find any pulse examples that set the sink so I could see what convention they use. You could try variations on this, like hw:0, or device = hw:0, etc. It might be a name though, I'm not sure. > > That should do the right thing at next boot. > > > > If it doesn't work, run > > pulseaudio --dump-conf > -> > daemonize = no > fail = yes > > Then paste the output and the contents of /etc/pulse/default.pa > > ---> > #!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF > # > # This file is part of PulseAudio. Both of these look fine. > Is there somewhere a comprhensive list of configuration files for alsa > and pulseaudio? I am not aware of such a list, though it might exist. I think the configuration file for alsa is /etc/asound.conf For pulse, the files is man pulse-client.conf and man pulse-daemon.conf would be the configuration files. As far as I can tell, there is no reason for the behavior you are experiencing from the information you have provided. I wonder if it has to do with the fact that the realtek ALC892 is part of a video card, and thus is automatically hard coded to digital output by the video driver. I would think there would be lots of complaints if that was happening, because it wouldn't be only you affected. Do you have another sound card you can try? If not, there are cheap stereo USB sound devices that sell for around a dollar on ebay. The sound of these is surprisingly good. If everything works correctly when using a dedicated sound device, then it probably has something to do with being part of a video device. I'm tapped out. You could try opening a bugzilla ticket against pulseaudio to see if anyone there has an idea. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Administrivia: DMARC mitigations enabled -- applies to Yahoo addresses, at least (was Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.)
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 17:27:40 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Hi all, > > As we've discussed in this thread and others recently, > messages from subscribers @yahoo.com do not reach > subscribers @gmail.com (among others). This is due to an > aggressive policy set by Yahoo which breaks mail sent via > the mailing list. > > The mitigation enabled should change the From: address of > the outgoing mail to the list address. This should only > apply to users of @yahoo.com and other domains which set a > similar DMARC policy. Subscribers at other domains should > see no change to the From: address of mail they send to the > list. > > I believe that only the email address will be changed, and > not the sender's name, but I am not certain of that yet. > > Hopefully this mitigation will work well and provide an > overall improvement to the list. If not, we'll revert it. Would this change be why I'm suddenly seeing oodles of old messages showing up on the list? Messages that I've already seen, since I don't have a problem with messages from yahoo addresses being invisible. I'm not sure what this will do to any messages I've saved - will they be deleted when I delete these old messages that are showing up as if they are new? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Administrivia: DMARC mitigations enabled -- applies to Yahoo addresses, at least (was Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.)
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:49:28 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > This shouldn't be related to that. All it does is change > the From: field of messages sent from domains with very > strict DMARC policies, so that they use the list address. > The sender name is kept, with 'via $list_name' appended. Then why all of a sudden am I seeing these old messages? I've seen messages from as long ago as last November, but most are from February and March. And coincidentally, they started at around the time you made the change. :-) Since I get my mail as pop3, and the messages are saved on the mail server, is there any way that some header field could be telling the mail server that those old messages are suddenly new again? Or is it more likely that they made a change to their mail servers at the same time that you made a change to the Fedora mailing lists? > No change we make to the list settings could affect your > saved messages. (I'm presuming that you're referring to > messages saved in your email client.) That's what I thought, but it is good to have confirmation. My thought is if the same message comes in as new that I have saved, it must have different header metadata of some sort or the client would show it as already read. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Administrivia: DMARC mitigations enabled -- applies to Yahoo addresses, at least (was Re: HYPERKITTY does not show messages parts being addressed in replies.)
On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:49:28 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Would this change be why I'm suddenly seeing oodles of old messages > > showing up on the list? Messages that I've already seen, since I > > don't have a problem with messages from yahoo addresses being > > invisible. > > This shouldn't be related to that. All it does is change > the From: field of messages sent from domains with very > strict DMARC policies, so that they use the list address. > The sender name is kept, with 'via $list_name' appended. I checked the headers on some of the messages, and they show the original date for the mail, while the receipt from the client shows today. That to me indicates that it is a problem at my email service provider, and I'll take it up with them. Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vt's enable screen blanking
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:57:12 -0700 Wolfgang S Rupprecht wrote: > How does one activate screen blanking on the vt's these days? I use setterm --blank=60 to prevent the screens from blanking after whatever the default is (10 minutes?). I don't know where the actual setting is, though. But you could put it in an rc.local file with whatever value you want to use so it is set on startup. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vt's enable screen blanking
On Mon, 09 Apr 2018 12:56:43 -0700 Wolfgang S Rupprecht wrote: > That looks like a fine solution if you are logged in on a terminal and > you want to change it for your current terminal. I'm not sure how > that would work from rc.local. How would I tell it to do that to all > the vt's? (I tried the stdin and stdout as redirection targets but it > didn't seem to work.) A quick search turned up these pages, which should get you a little further on your journey. https://superuser.com/questions/152347/change-linux-console-screen-blanking-behavior https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8056/disable-screen-blanking-on-text-console ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: vt's enable screen blanking
On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 15:16:52 -0700 "Wolfgang S. Rupprecht" wrote: > stan writes: > > A quick search turned up these pages, which should get you a little > > further on your journey. > > > > https://superuser.com/questions/152347/change-linux-console-screen-blanking-behavior > > > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8056/disable-screen-blanking-on-text-console > > > > Thanks. Those are both 7 years old and things appear to have changed > much. Did you try this from the suggestions at the links? I didn't, but the console has not changed that drastically lately because the emphasis has been on the GUI, so it should still work. """ The only permanent solution is to add consoleblank=0 to the kernel command-line. You can view the value (which defaults to 600 seconds) in: /sys/module/kernel/parameters/consoleblank """ """ The default console blanking behavior is baked into the kernel at compile time. It is configurable at boot time with the paramater consoleblank=, or in userspace with setterm. From the kernel documentation (kernel-parameters.txt): consoleblank= [KNL] The console blank (screen saver) timeout in seconds. Defaults to 10*60 = 10mins. A value of 0 disables the blank timer. """ I see it is still documented in the kernel Documentation, so I don't think it has gone away, and the path is still there on my system. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: HW and SW threats: how to block?
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 00:20:28 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 04/12/2018 04:04 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > > And again, if you don't allow your browser or mail client to install > > software (which is a spectacularly bad idea in the first place) and > > you're careful about which links you click and which packages you > > download and install, it's sort of a moot point. > > It's not about installing something. A website can run javascript on > your browser (unless you're using the mentioned javascript blockers > which cripple most sites). And apparently a website could have > javascript keep running even after you leave the site. This has > possibly been corrected by Firefox. I don't remember all the details. I think that closing the tab ends the javascript access for that site. But I'm running noscript, so it might be that it is noscript, and not firefox, enforcing that. I also run cookie autodelete, and that might end access for a site because any cookies it created are deleted when the tab is closed. I say this because when I close a tab for a site that I've logged into, and then open a new tab for it, I have to enable javascript and log in for that site again. This is complicated, because of the way the web works. If everything displayed in the browser was created by the foreign web server, it would be simpler, though slower. Allowing foreign software to run in the client browser is a security hole, because there will always be bugs, or unintended access routes, in complex software for the bad guys to exploit. The binary for firefox is about 80 MBytes (the hg source repository is over 4 GBytes), that's a lot of attack surface. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 27: Remmina and VNC incoming connection
On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 14:29:43 +0200 Dario Lesca wrote: > IMHO > I think Fedora must buil the remmina package with this option enabled > > If this plugin is enable, and sometime and in some circumstance not > work, is better than it's not enable and alway do not work. > > What is the best way to report this my suggest? Open a bugzilla against remmina package at the address below. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ You will have to click through "enter a new bug", and then select Fedora until you have received a new bug entry page. Select the component (remmina) at the top, and then pretty much fill it in with what you have put in your emails. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sudo but no su -
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:03:58 -0400 Bob Goodwin wrote: > I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and > created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I > haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's convenient to > keep a work space for root and I was unable to do that, could not do > dnf upgrade or groupinstall xfce unless I used sudo. Is that a > virt-manager feature or is it going to be normal for Fedora 28? I think I remember reading that there will be no default root account after install of F28 or later. Again, I think I remember the workaround was to use sudo, and then create a root account with useradd. You will have to specify the root directory as /root (man useradd), otherwise I think the default is to create it in /home (/home/root? :-)). Be sure to check the permissions on the /root directory after you create it. The default that used to be created by anaconda was 550. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sudo but no su -
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:30:37 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > There *has* to be a root account. By default there is no root > password unless you set one during the installation. I think there > has been talk of removing that option from the installer. All you > have to do is "sudo passwd" to set the root password and then you can > directly use the root account again if you want. Thanks for the info. Does there have to be a home directory for the obligatory root account? The tone of the discussions I read was that root user was an anachronism, and linux would be better without it. That's only my interpretation, of course, so it could be wrong. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sudo but no su -
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > The home directory for root is /root. Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use root and su instead of sudo. old dog - new tricks :-) > I think the majority opinion now is that logging in as the root user > is discouraged. In almost all cases sudo is sufficient and if you > need to do root things for a while, just use "sudo -i". For remote > access as root, use keys. I guess I hold the minority opinion, but that's OK. Linux is all about choice, and the more the better. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sudo but no su -
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:54:08 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for. I used > to use that all the time, but gradually I switched over and on my > desktop system, it is extremely rare that I use it. (I think only > when the graphical display is messed up and I have to switch to a > console to fix it.) The places I do use a root login are for remote > admin, either servers or remote laptops and computer that I > administer. And in almost all cases, the root account is accessed > using ssh with keys, no passwords. I use it mostly to install software. I run dnf updates from a virtual console as root, and when I build the kernel or a package from a src.rpm, I use root to install it also. I have used the root password when an upgrade to a new rawhide failed. I could probably get by with using sudo, but like I said, habit. Why expend the effort to learn a new way of doing things that is no better than what I'm already doing? The only advantage I see with using sudo is that there is only 1 password to remember instead of 2, but that isn't an issue for me. Another minor benefit is that I always log in as root on the same virtual console, so that when I go to that console I know that I am root, and I take greater care. TLDR; if I had to I could switch, but why bother? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: H.264 video broken after updating to Fedora 28
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:41:46 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After upgrading to Fedora 28, most of Youtube is broken in Firefox, > claiming lack of H.264 codec support. > > Googling around, found this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenH264 > > But none of the packages are currently available: > > [root@thinkpad yum.repos.d]# dnf config-manager --set-enabled > fedora-cisco-openh264 [root@thinkpad yum.repos.d]# dnf install > gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 mozilla-openh264 Last metadata expiration > check: 0:00:00 ago on Thu 26 Apr 2018 09:40:47 PM EDT. > No match for argument: gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 > No match for argument: mozilla-openh264 > Error: Unable to find a match > > Meanwhile, back on Fedora 27, H.264 video works fine in Firefox, > without any of this. I'm running F28 and haven't had any problem playing videos for the weeks I have been. I just went to youtube and had no problem watching a video with both the Fedora firefox and nightly. Is there a specific way to make sure that a video is H264 (mp4) instead of webm (most of youtube)? Can you maybe point me to a video that has the problem so I can try playing it? It appears there might be something in your configuration causing a problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: H.264 video broken after updating to Fedora 28
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 22:38:16 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > If you go to https://www.youtube.com/html5 does it tell you that > your browser has H.264 support? > > Fedora 27 Firefox does. Fedora 28 Firefox does not. Yes, it does. I thought of a reason why this might be true. I had been running a version of rawhide that was updated for many releases, and decided to stop at F28. I probably carried over into F28 from those earlier releases whatever is causing your problem, especially if yours was a new install. To Todd's point, I noticed in my updates today that rpmfusion had ffmpeg updates, so that might solve your problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: H.264 video broken after updating to Fedora 28
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 23:23:28 -0400 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > > To Todd's point, I noticed in my updates today that rpmfusion had > > ffmpeg updates, so that might solve your problem. > > Yes, that seems to be one way to get there. > > I already had rpmfusion, and this us where I had full HTML5 support > from, including H.264, up to F27. But I did not have > rpmfusion-rawhide enabled, and I lost H.264 after updating to F28. > > If you say that you were only on Fedora rawhide, but not rpmfusion > rawhide, and you still have H.264 without compat-ffmpeg28 from > rpmfusion rawhide, it would be useful to compare notes, to figure out > where you're getting H.264 from, in F28. > No, I have Name: compat-ffmpeg28 Version : 2.8.14 Release : 1.fc28 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 15 Mar 2018 03:05:26 PM MST installed. And I've had rpmfusion-rawhide enabled the whole time, so that is probably why it is working. I don't have the cisco repo enabled, though. These, rpmfusion-free-release-28-1.noarch rpmfusion-nonfree-release-28-1.noarch installed today, so rpmfusion now has an F28 repository. You should be able to install the compat-ffmpeg28 from there. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: pip install as non-root on Fedora
On Wed, 2 May 2018 09:48:36 -0400 Todd Zullinger wrote: > Ian Pilcher wrote: > > Is it possible to get $SUBJECT working? I need to install 'grip' > > from https://github.com/joeyespo/grip, and trying to do so as a > > normal user isn't working (permission denied errors trying to write > > to /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages). > > I believe you need to add the --user option. That may > become the default at some point, but it looks like it isn't > yet for pip (I didn't check if pip3 defaults to --user). > > This works for me: pip install --user grip > And if you want to decide where pip will install to with the --user option, put something like this in your .bashrc PYTHONUSERBASE=/home/[your user]/src/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages export PYTHONUSERBASE ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F28 - kernel-PAE missing?
On Wed, 2 May 2018 06:26:23 -0400 Jim Simmons wrote: > I upgraded a 32-bit Fedora 27 system to Fedora 28 using the normal dnf > upgrade procedure. The upgrade finished but the system is still > running a Fedora 27 kernel. > > There don't appear to be any kernel-PAE* packages in the repos and I > don't see this mentioned anywhere in the docs I've found. Are they no > longer supported? A quick attempt at using the normal kernel didn't > work - the system went to a black screen with just a cursor and hung. > I did a control-alt-del and it hung with a message from systemd about > starting something to do with the root device. I ran out of time > testing - I'll look at it later. > > Is there anythng special about going back to the regular kernel? I don't think PAE kernels are supported anymore. So, unless you download the src.rpm and build it yourself, you will not get one. There is no maintenance for 32 bit anymore, so probably not a good idea. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8 Or, you could continue to run F27 PAE kernels on F28 until F27 goes end of life, or a dependency problem arises. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-27-Might-Drop-i686-Kern The suggestion there seems to be to buy new hardware, or move to a distribution that continues to support PAE. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: The /crypt method to support habitual clean installs of Fedora without losing data
On Wed, 2 May 2018 17:24:41 -0400 Temlakos wrote: > The syntax I have worked out for the commands to mount the auxiliary > filesystem as /crypt is: > > $ sudo mkdir /crypt > > $ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb2 /crypt > > (Here I start with "$ sudo" instead of "#" because to get a "#" > prompt I have to execute "su," and that can be dangerous.) > > The syntax for establishing a symlink is even simpler: > > ln -s /crypt/UserName/Dir > > where UserName is the name of a specific created user, and Dir is > Documents, Pictures, Music, Public, Templates, Videos, and anything > else I want to preserve from one iteration of Fedora to the next. Of > course I have to remove the "hard" directories that Fedora normally > sets up before I execute these link commands. > > To whoever invented this method: am I missing anything? I don't think it was me, but I do use something very similar. Except that since I only have one user, I put the /crypt equivalent that I use into /etc/fstab so it gets mounted under /mnt/[disk-identifier]/crypt on boot. The advantage of disk-identifier (UUID or custom label) is that it doesn't change if you boot from a different disk or the disk order changes because you add a disk. You should only have to do your first command once, and the second one each time you boot with your method. The conventional place to put such mount points is under /mnt, though you can of course put them anywhere you like. Then the links in home just point to the various directories under /mnt/[disk-identifier]/crypt as you have above. From then on, it is maintenance free. And it allows me to boot a second version of Fedora (the previous one) with access to all the same data as the primary version. Great if there are problems since it has the same links in its home directory. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: The /crypt method to support habitual clean installs of Fedora without losing data
On Wed, 2 May 2018 16:02:01 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/02/2018 03:57 PM, stan wrote: > > Then the links in home just point to the various directories > > under /mnt/[disk-identifier]/crypt as you have above. From then > > on, it is maintenance free. And it allows me to boot a second > > version of Fedora (the previous one) with access to all the same > > data as the primary version. Great if there are problems since it > > has the same links in its home directory. > > Do you link the user home folder or the folders inside of the user's > home? It sounds like you are doing the first, but the OP is wanting > to do the second. I do the second. I have a bunch of directories like src and jpg and vid and ... that are just links to directories in the data store. These are things that I want to have access to whichever system I boot. It sounds complicated and difficult, but it is straightforward. Maybe not for everyone, but works for me. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Any way to disable debugsource generation on fedora >= 27
On Thu, 3 May 2018 11:08:47 +0800
Robin Lee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently upgrade my host from f26 to f28. But to keep compatible
> with old behavior,
> I am figuring out a way to revert the change 'Separate Subpackage and
> Source Debuginfo'[1].
> That means let rpm not generate debugsource and subpackage debuginfo.
> Simply adding '%_debugsource_packages 0' to ~/.rpmmacros does not
> work.
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SubpackageAndSourceDebuginfo
A possible suggestion:
From /usr/lib/rpm/redhat/macros
"""
#==
# configure macros. note that most of these are inherited
# from the defaults.
#
%_localstatedir /var
%_pkgdocdir %{_docdir}/%{name}
%_docdir_fmt%%{NAME}
%_fmoddir %{_libdir}/gfortran/modules
%_enable_debug_packages 1
%_include_minidebuginfo 1
%_include_gdb_index 1
%_debugsource_packages 1
%_debuginfo_subpackages 1
"""
From the man page for rpmbuild:
"""
--with OPTION
Enable configure OPTION for build.
--without OPTION
Disable configure OPTION for build.
"""
Does adding the option --without _enable_debug_packages to the end
of the rpmbuild line work? If it does, you could just disable any
other debug options above that you don't want the same way.
You could ask on the fedora-devel list where people will be more
familiar with this topic.
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Re: Any way to disable debugsource generation on fedora >= 27
On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:57:53 -0400
Todd Zullinger wrote:
> stan wrote:
> > From the man page for rpmbuild:
> > """
> > --with OPTION
> > Enable configure OPTION for build.
> >
> > --without OPTION
> > Disable configure OPTION for build.
> > """
> >
> > Does adding the option --without _enable_debug_packages to the end
> > of the rpmbuild line work? If it does, you could just disable any
> > other debug options above that you don't want the same way.
>
> The --with/--without arguments toggle conditions set via
> %bcond_with and %bcond_without. So that won't do what Robin
> wants.
>
> More details on --with/--without are here:
>
> http://rpm.org/user_doc/conditional_builds.html
>
Thanks.
My knowledge of this is minimal, but I was going by the kernel, which
was probably a bad choice, as the kernel is unique. There, passing
--without-debuginfo turns off debug package generation, but that is
probably due to special coding in the spec file, shown below.
"""
# The following build options are enabled by default.
# Use either --without in your rpmbuild command or force values
# to 0 in here to disable them.
#
# standard kernel
%define with_up%{?_without_up:0} %{?!_without_up:1}
# kernel PAE (only valid for i686 (PAE) and ARM (lpae))
%define with_pae %{?_without_pae: 0} %{?!_without_pae: 0}
# kernel-debug
%define with_debug %{?_without_debug: 0} %{?!_without_debug: 0}
# kernel-headers
%define with_headers %{?_without_headers: 0} %{?!_without_headers: 1}
%define with_cross_headers %{?_without_cross_headers: 0}
%{?!_without_cross_headers: 0}
# kernel-debuginfo
%define with_debuginfo %{?_without_debuginfo: 0} %{?!_without_debuginfo: 0}
# kernel-bootwrapper (for creating zImages from kernel + initrd)
%define with_bootwrapper %{?_without_bootwrapper: 0} %{?!_without_bootwrapper:
1}
# Want to build a the vsdo directories installed
%define with_vdso_install %{?_without_vdso_install: 0}
%{?!_without_vdso_install: 1}
#
# Additional options for user-friendly one-off kernel building:
#
# Only build the base kernel (--with baseonly):
%define with_baseonly %{?_with_baseonly: 1} %{?!_with_baseonly: 0}
# Only build the pae kernel (--with paeonly):
%define with_paeonly %{?_with_paeonly: 1} %{?!_with_paeonly: 0}
#
"""
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Re: desktop background image
On Fri, 4 May 2018 18:57:30 -0400 Jeffrey Ross wrote: > I upgraded my system to Fedora 28 (from 26 -> 27 -> 28) and when I > upgraded to 28 I no longer had a desktop background image, the > desktop was simply "black". I dismissed it as a minor issue and [snip] > Suggestions? I don't have much experience with this, since I run wallpapoz, but I think it matters which desktop manager and which desktop you use. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so
So, I'm trying qutebrowser from the Fedora package, and it starts, but can't reach the web. It has this error that it is unable to verify the certificate, not only for this website, but for any website I try. [1853:1870:0509/180934.705609:ERROR:cert_verify_proc_nss.cc(902)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert for duckduckgo.com failed err=-5992 A little searching and messing about, and /usr/lib64/libnssckbi follows some weird redirections twice, and its dependency on linux-vdso.so.1. doesn't seem to be found. But it seems that vdso is automatically mapped into all executables, so shouldn't be an issue. Everything else seems to be installed for certificates to work, and they work fine in firefox. Can anyone shed light on a possible solution? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so
On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:11:13 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > Just FYI. Sorry, I can't shed any light on this since I just > installed qutebrowser on a fully updated F28/KDE system and it starts > and runs just fine. Actually, that does shed some light. qutebrowser uses qt5 with qtwebengine and pyqt5. I have all desktops installed, since I use applications from other desktops (I usually use lxde), but obviously not everything needed for qutebrowser to work. So, I can boot into kde and see if it works there to determine if it is lxde at fault, or if my kde install isn't complete enough. Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: kernel not configured for semaphores
On Thu, 10 May 2018 07:57:29 -0700 Paolo Galtieri wrote: > Folks, > twice now in the last 2 days when I have sat in front of my PC I > have found the following message on the screen: > > Kernel not configured for semaphores (System V IPC). Not using udev > synchronization code. > Halting. > > Since I have not modified my kernel from what I downloaded when I did > the most recent update I don't understand why this message is > appearing. Both times it occurred during the night because I find it > first thing in the morning. > > Anyone have any idea what is causing this message to appear? This is probably something else other than the kernel that has a bug. You can check if your kernel has semaphores set by going into /boot and running grep -i -e 'IPC' [config file for your running kernel] It should show something like CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_IPC_NS=y My suspicion would fall on systemd as a cause for your problem. But that's just a guess based on the error message, I haven't actually checked for the error message in the source. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so
On Thu, 10 May 2018 08:40:51 -0700 stan wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2018 11:11:13 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > Just FYI. Sorry, I can't shed any light on this since I just > > installed qutebrowser on a fully updated F28/KDE system and it > > starts and runs just fine. > > Actually, that does shed some light. qutebrowser uses qt5 with > qtwebengine and pyqt5. I have all desktops installed, since I use > applications from other desktops (I usually use lxde), but obviously > not everything needed for qutebrowser to work. So, I can boot into > kde and see if it works there to determine if it is lxde at fault, or > if my kde install isn't complete enough. > > Thanks. Well, my experience was different than yours; qutebrowser didn't work for me in KDE either, with the same error. So, it is some fundamental configuration of my system that is not compatible with the way qutebrowser wants to use certificates. I did have a lot of errors and warnings during kde startup because I have many services like geolocation and dnfdaemon masked. However, kde came up and worked just fine, as far as I could tell. It was responsive, and performed all my requests without complaint. Hmmm, back to the drawing board. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
SOLVED: cruft, bad ldconfig path Re: qutebrowser fails with a certificate error in F28 - Seems that it is looking for linux-vdso.so.1 and not finding it in libnssckbi.so
On Thu, 10 May 2018 09:50:49 -0700 stan wrote: This turned out to be a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d that had a path set to /usr/local/lib/firefox. When I removed that file and ran ldconfig, qutebrowser started just fine. And it had no effect on running nightly (firefox), which is installed in that directory along with the libraries it needs by mach. I probably set it at some time in the past to get nightly to start because of a library conflict with the fedora packaged firefox. It was dated January of this year. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Package dependency paradox with package 'tuned'
On Mon, 14 May 2018 13:05:41 +0200 Eino Virtanen wrote: > Error: Package: tuned-profiles-realtime-2.8.0-5.el7.noarch (@rt) >Requires: tuned = 2.8.0 >Removing: tuned-2.8.0-5.el7_4.2.noarch (@updates) >tuned = 2.8.0-5.el7_4.2 >Updated By: tuned-2.9.0-1.el7.noarch (base) >tuned = 2.9.0-1.el7 >Available: tuned-2.7.1-5.el7.noarch (rt) >tuned = 2.7.1-5.el7 >Available: tuned-2.8.0-5.el7.noarch (rt) >tuned = 2.8.0-5.el7 > ### > > My interpretation is that the 'tuned-profiles-realtime' requires > 'tuned' version '2.8.0', but version '2.9.0-1.el7' is currently > installed? Should I force installation of 'tuned' version '2.8.0', or > what would be a sensible solution to this problem? My interpretation is that 'tuned-profiles-realtime' needs to be compiled with tuned version '2.9.0-1.el7. Because it requires version 2.8 of tuned, it is blocking the update to tuned 2.9. You should open a bugzilla against tuned-profiles-realtime asking for it to be recompiled with tuned 2.9. Maybe it's already done, and just waiting in testing for enough karma, and you've just been caught by a timing issue, though. So, you could wait a day or two to see if the situation resolves itself. PS this is the Fedora list, your question is probably more appropriate for a centos list, if there is one. I know, I know, cousins. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.
Hi, The subject pretty much says it. In the last week or so, the behavior of the icons on the desktop has changed to require confirmation before opening the application in LXDE. There is one icon, the one for spectacle, the screen capture application, that this does not happen for. So there must be a way to stop it from happening. Would this be an issue in X (LXDE still runs only on X as far as I am aware), LXDE, or maybe selinux or some other security app? There have been hundreds of updates in that time frame, so unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather not go back looking through them for a likely culprit. Thanks for any help. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Package dependency paradox with package 'tuned'
On Tue, 15 May 2018 08:34:07 +0200 Eino Virtanen wrote: > Ah, allright, thanks for clearing that up for me Stan! You're welcome, glad it helped. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How to repair a Fedora28 file system ?
On Tue, 15 May 2018 17:14:28 +0200 "Ger van Dijck" wrote: > Question : Is there a way to repair the unix file system under Fedora > 28 ? I think it depends on the filesystem, and the problem you are having. For ext[2-4] file systems, there is e2fsck. Be very cautious with using any tool, since you can damage the filesystem with the tool if used incorrectly. man e2fsck for details. Other people might be able to help if you give the filesystem type and describe the problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 11:55:38 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 05/15/2018 08:06 AM, stan wrote: > > The subject pretty much says it. In the last week or so, the > > behavior of the icons on the desktop has changed to require > > confirmation before opening the application in LXDE. There is one > > icon, the one for spectacle, the screen capture application, that > > this does not happen for. So there must be a way to stop it from > > happening. Would this be an issue in X (LXDE still runs only on X > > as far as I am aware), LXDE, or maybe selinux or some other > > security app? There have been hundreds of updates in that time > > frame, so unless I absolutely have to, I'd rather not go back > > looking through them for a likely culprit. > > Check that the executable bit is set on those files. It's strange, spectacle had no executable permission, and when I looked at the properties it says no one can execute it. The problem icons all had executable permissions, and the properties were anybody can execute. I removed the executable permissions, but no difference. When I have a chance, I'll try restarting X to see if it picks up the new properties of these icons, and they then have the same behavior as spectacle. I think you are onto something, since the executable permissions were such a match for behavior, if in a negative manner. Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 14:18:35 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > When I double-click a .desktop file in Nautilus, Gnome pops up a > dialog box saying that the file is not trusted and do I want to trust > it and execute it. After agreeing, the proper icon shows up instead > of the basic file icon. I don't know where it stores the > information, but it must save the path somewhere, because if you > replace the file with something else, the new file is still trusted. Restarting X didn't work, but the above gave me the hint I needed. I deleted the offending icons and re-created them, and now they work like they always did. It seems some api changed, and needed the re-creation to configure it so it would work properly. That was one of the first things I tried, deleting and re-creating an icon. Then, it had the same behavior, now it works. The only difference between the two icons I can see is that the new one doesn't have a description or tooltip. What would the universe be without mysteries? Thanks for your help. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Dialog box pops up now when double clicking on desktop icons in LXDE, asking for confirmation. Want to stop this behavior.
On Tue, 15 May 2018 16:02:12 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: > You can go into the ~/Desktop folder and see the files that > correspond to the icons. They should be .desktop files, but maybe > they weren't before. They are all desktop now. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed if they weren't before, since I was looking for inconsistencies. But, whatever they were, everything was working fine until the update that broke this. I still have no idea what that was, but at least everything is working now, so I'll just let it go. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to lower cpu frequency
On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:59:53 -0600 JD wrote: > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -g performance 2G > # /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-info | grep "current CPU > frequency is" current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to > hardware). current CPU frequency is 2.80 GHz (asserted by call to > hardware). > > Cpu can accept frquencies as low as 800MHz. > > So, does anyone have a more magical incantation to force the 2 cores > to run at 2.0 GHz? You could try adding --max? I'm not sure what the default is, might be --min. When governor is set to performance, the CPU runs full out all the time. It is possible to change the governor on a running system, but I'm not sure how. You could change it to one of the below other than performance, if it has been compiled into the kernel. As you can see, I have only the ondemand governor in my kernel. These are the settings for my CPU, from boot/config-[] # DEVFREQ Governors CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_SIMPLE_ONDEMAND=y # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PERFORMANCE is not set # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_POWERSAVE is not set # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_USERSPACE is not set # CONFIG_DEVFREQ_GOV_PASSIVE is not set Also, IIRC, the setting of CPU frequency is usually done directly in the BIOS / firmware. In the kernel docs they say that some CPUs can't be set from the kernel (but don't give a list). i.e. the BIOS would be your only option if you have one of those, and it sounds like you might. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot
> > On May 15, 2018, at 1:51 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > It's likely that the vbox video driver doesn't have the full > > support that works with Wayland. On Wed, 16 May 2018 06:50:44 -0500 Bev in TX wrote: > Is this a Gnome specific issue, or does it affect all Linux desktops? It would affect any desktop that tries to run wayland as default. As far as I know, right now that is only Gnome and KDE, but I don't pay much attention to this, since wayland lacks functionality I need, so it isn't on my radar. PS On mailing lists, it is good etiquette to post replies under the portion of the text they refer to, so it isn't necessary to be familiar with the topic chain to understand the question. More answers are likely that way. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F27 problems with pam?
On Wed, 16 May 2018 10:09:04 +0200 Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > BTW: with latest updates there is also a problem with audio card, not > detected any more. > From hwinfo point of view I see this: > > snd_hda_codec_hdmi: /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/hdaudioC0D3 > snd_hda_codec_hdmi: module = snd_hda_codec_hdmi > snd_hda_codec_generic: module = snd_hda_codec_generic > snd_hda_codec_realtek: module = snd_hda_codec_realtek > snd_hda_codec_realtek: /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/hdaudioC0D0 > > The pc is an Asus U36SD > > Running alsa-info.sh in the ouptut I see > > pcilib: sysfs_read_vpd: read failed: Input/output error > > and in the generated file I see > > !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA > !!- > > 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH > HDA Intel PCH at 0xdf00 irq 34 > > > !!PCI Soundcards installed in the system > !!-- > > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset > Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) > > > !!Advanced information - PCI Vendor/Device/Subsystem ID's > !!--- > > 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:1c20 (rev 05) > Subsystem: 1043:1ba3 > > but in mate and cinnamon nothing as hardware device > Up to three days ago I could choose between analog and hdmi > > Full output file here: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZXEwzHM9XgOsqiUv-OF2zJ-UqbZrbGHG/view?usp=sharing > > Any help on these problems? Can't help with the network permissions problem, but for the sound problem, you can install pavucontrol, and check which device is set as default. Since non-deterministic instantiation of drivers is the norm, it is possible that the order of your sound devices has changed, and the old default now points to the hdmi device. An easy try, at least. alsa-info shows that the pci device is there. If you have a wav file, you can try aplay --D plughw:1,0 [wav file] to see if the device is working. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Compile issues after F27 -> F28 upgrade
On Wed, 16 May 2018 10:16:26 -0700 a...@clueserver.org wrote: > I did an upgrade from Fedora 27 to the Fedora 28 beta a while back. > (About a week before final release.) After the update I tried to > recompile a program I use often. The program would compile after a > bit of patching, but it would not start. > > Using ldd I was able to determine that the ldconfig database still > had old entries from the Fedora 27 install that had been > upgraded/erased. > > Is this a known issue or am I just going mad? Is it possible that *you* put those entries there? If they didn't come from a package, they wouldn't have been changed by the update. It's possible there was a packaging miscue, but having been recently burned by a file I left in /etc/ld.so.conf.d, it's the first thing I thought of. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: F27 problems with pam?
On Thu, 17 May 2018 10:54:57 +0200 Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Thanks Stan for your feedback. > Actually it seems I've narrowed the origin of the problem. > I have been using Mate as DE for many months without any problem. > Only recently (when still in F27 and some days before the start of the > problems described in this thread) I switched from gdm to lghtdm > because I had some lagging events and I tried to eliminate at all > gnome/gdm/gnome-shell dependency > > Now (I'm in F28) it is simply sufficient to re-enable gdm and > connectusing Gnome as DE to see that all is ok: > - logout/shutdown buttons without problems (previously a logout > originated an automatic relogin...) > - switch wifi on/off and other components (such as external usb disks) > without getting authorization errors > - audio adapter is seen ok with its analog and hdmi settings (and it > works too... ;-) > So it seems that the problem doesn't show with default Fedora > environment but only with the combination I outlined above. > I also tried Cinnamon (with lightdm) and same problems. > > Possibly gdm in its start enables some permission for normal users > that lightdm (at least in latest updates) doesn't provide? > I'm going also to test other combinations, to narrow down better (eg > lightdm with gnome DE session, ecc...) Excellent! And you know you have a working fallback, which is always nice when testing. It's strange that a desktop manager would affect this, since it is the desktop that performs the actions that are having problems. Maybe you eliminated some gnome dependency that cinnamon and mate were depending on? Or maybe you are right, and it is some permission or configuration that lightdm is not completing as gdm does. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZNW3BQRSGEOEW7FG46F6QBTIL6CHV4PK/
Re: after F27->F28 upgrade, hangs at end of boot
On Thu, 17 May 2018 06:52:29 -0500 Bev in TX wrote: > Thanks for the info. I’ll try to remember to bottom post in this > group. Yeah, it's exactly the opposite of business communications, where everyone just puts their response at the top, and the whole chain is in the message below. There, everyone is in the loop, so it makes more sense to just put the response at the top. I suppose that style would work in mailing lists, also, but it would be a lot more traffic, and people who pop in on the middle of a conversation would have to do a lot of work to come up to speed. I'm pretty forgiving of lapses, but be warned, there are some fierce advocates of interspersed responses and trimming in the mailing list world. :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/JQNCDGQEWDI4ZUOWQ3ZRAMNSTL4BN3QU/
Re: Strange behavior with MATE desktop
On Thu, 17 May 2018 08:39:24 -0700 Paolo Galtieri wrote: > on my F27 system with MATE desktop. First issue is that when I tried > to logout it didn't, even though it prompted for logout. What's > The second issue is that now whenever I plug in an external USB drive > I get a popup saying I'm not authorized to perform the operation. > What's interesting about this last issue is that sometimes it does > mount the drive when I login, however, if I unmount it, unplug it and > plug it back in I get the "Not authorized to perform operation" > message. > > These 2 problems only occur on one of my 2 F27 systems running MATE. > > Anyone know what might have changed and how do I fix it? No real help, but these sound like timing issues because of the intermittent behavior. Anything using lots of CPU or disk at the time the problems occur? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/25RYZRQWH7P5QIJL4UT3DN5A5MMXJOVO/
Re: Unable to lower cpu frequency
On Thu, 17 May 2018 13:13:34 -0600 JD wrote: > You hit the nail on the head. > I found that the command line I was using contained the word > performance. Now, I am doing: > /bin/cpupower --cpu all frequency-set -u 2.00G > > and cpu-info is showing: > current CPU frequency is 1.60 GHz (asserted by call to hardware). > for both cpus. > > This was necessary because of running ffmpeg alongside with > playing videos cause HW errors. > Even thought the kernel throttled the cpu, it did not help much. > > Now, I do not get the HW errors and kernel ooops messages. Glad to hear it worked out for you. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/4C37UFL72OQWBDDBADH2OEWWG5RQOX7C/
Re: Strange behavior with MATE desktop
On Thu, 17 May 2018 12:51:47 -0700 Paolo Galtieri wrote: > The system is about 80% idle. What is interesting is I tried using > the Gnome Classic desktop and I had the same issue regarding logging > out. The difference is I was never able to logout of Gnome Classic > until I killed off the processes. I also found an curious issue. > The system this problem is occuring on is a laptop, and I have an > external monitor attached. When I loggen into Gnome Classic the > external monitor was an extension of the laptop display, i.e. I move > the mouse off the right side of the laptop display and it shows up on > the external monitor. I changed the configuration so that the > external monitor showed the same as the laptop display. I also added > an icon for gnome-terminal on the desktop. So far so good. When I > logged out of Gnome Classic and logged back in to MATE the display > configuration had changed from what it was before, now under MATE the > external monitor was no longer a clone of the laptop display as it > was previously, and there was now an icon for the terminal app on the > MATE desktop which there was not previously. I also was unable to > mount any external drive under Gnome Classic either, and I got no > message about not being authorized. > > Is there some kind of interaction between Gnome Classic and MATE? From memory, mate is based on Gnome GTK2, while Gnome Classic is a desktop environment similar to Gnome2, but based on GTK3. So there shouldn't be code overlap. But it might be that some configuration settings are in conflict, as they are both trying to emulate Gnome2. > As I mentioned I have a second F27 system which does not exhibit > these problems. On both of these systems I have installed VirtualBox > from Oracle. I also installed the VirtualBox extension pack. On one > system, the one that does not show any issues, the install went > fine. On the one having the problems, the install of the extension > pack failed with the following error: > > The installer failed with exit code 127: Error creating textual > authentication agent: Error opening current controlling terminal for > the process (`/dev/tty'): No such device or address. > > I checked /dev/tty does exist. It might be that something else is using the device, and the error message is generic and only says doesn't exist instead of unavailable. > Any ideas? Again, not any good ones. On the system that isn't working, you could remove the virtualbox extension pack, and then install it again to see if it can bypass the error. And, is it possible there is some hardware error? Is air circulation good (might be overheating)? Try a memory check to see if memory has issues. Run a diagnostic on the hard drive to see if it is in pre-failure mode. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/6X34JVTMAWTRH2ALBUAHTPZUY5ASTAAB/
Re: Unable to use DNF on Fedora 28 KDE
On Sat, 19 May 2018 14:39:38 +0800 Robbi Nespu wrote: > I just fresh installed Fedora 28 KDE but I got something like th is > when run dnf update. "Unable to detect release version (use > '--releasever' to specifyrelease version)" which need me do define 28 > each time using DNF You could try running dnf --releasever=28 reinstall fedora-release fedora-repos just in case those have inconsistencies. dnf doesn't seem able to find the updates repo for F28. Is there anything odd about entries in /etc/yum.repos.d/? Extra repos, missing repos, turned off/on repos? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/COXXG5MDRRQFFGY4PEBVE3T4DJM3JTP3/
Re: gimp-2.10
On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:28:14 +0200 François Patte wrote: > I have seen that in fedora 28, 2.8 version of gimp is still > provided Is there any chance to have the 2.10 version before f29 > release? You could open a request bugzilla asking the maintainer if they would put the f29 version in f28. Or, if that isn't going to happen, you could get the f29 version from koji, and do a local install. https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=407 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/UQPJV2HCX37Z6XU62G2EK76AJJBX6FFR/
Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)
On Sun, 20 May 2018 13:58:36 -0400 Beartooth wrote: > I'd like to try replacing LDM with something else; how do I > do that?? (I like Mate well, and would prefer not to swap it out,too) I use openbox (it's in the Fedora repositories) with lxde. I usually use startx from multiuser, but openbox is configured as the dm in lxde. There was a thread here recently about how to switch desktop managers. I ignored it since it didn't apply to me. Sorry. :-) Maybe someone else will pipe up. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/NSFFEBFS36NQQZN2OXQ2D6N5IPSGK4OE/
Re: Could LightDM be bad?? (LONG)
On Sun, 20 May 2018 13:58:36 -0400 Beartooth wrote: Forgot this: > Finally, #1 has two F28 kernels -- which do no better than on > #2 nor #3 -- and a rescue kernel from F26. Sic. Twenty-six, not 27 > nor 28. But that rescue kernel does support almost my whole GUI (I > miss Pan badly.), and I don't have to descend to the console. There was a thread about how to update the rescue kernel on a system here recently as well. Courtesy of Samuel Sieb: """ You delete the rescue initramfs from /boot. Then the next time you install a new kernel, it will create a new one. Possibly reinstalling the existing kernel would work as well. """ As far as pan goes, going to koji, getting a version that works, and downgrading seems to be the only recourse. There is a ticket open for the problem, but I don't think upstream is active on pan anymore. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1546863 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/HK7NRDRIIMISAZYHEKYGMB7QTKXPQTLU/
Re: yum hangs and results in problems (Centos 7)
On Thu, 24 May 2018 20:44:08 +0100 Gary Stainburn wrote: > Sorry for cross posting folks, but I'm a bit desperate and the Centos > mailing list doesn't seem to like me at the moment. > > All of this is on a Centos 7 system, but I'm hoping someone here can > help It's been years since I used yum, so the answers could be polluted with dnf usage. > > Questions > > 1) Any ideas why my yum runs keep hanging, and what I can do to fix > it? Turn up the debugging in /etc/yum.conf. I think the max is 10. Redirect the output to a file, both stdout and stderr. > 2) How do I go about fixing the problems listed above? Below? You need to remove the duplicate packages. You can do that manually, using rpm -e on the older duplicate package. > 3) What do I need to do to get my server back in a safe, consistant > state? I think something was preventing yum from completing, so it was in sleep. When you interrupted it, that left things in an inconsistent state. Was your server running while you did the update? Could it have been blocking access to something that yum wanted to update? > > Details: > > My live mail server was due an update so I ran > > yum update > > All seemed file so I told it to proceed. HOwever it then hung for > over 30 minutes. You should have checked the status of yum with top at least, to see what was happening. > yum-complete-transaction > > and > > package-cleanup --cleandupes > > both of which failed. Bad sign, these should have worked if the system was left in a consistent state. > yum-complete-transaction --cleanup-only (which worked) You could try the package-cleanup --cleandupes again. If it doesn't work, remove the duplicates manually and individually using rpm -e Read the manual for exact syntax, and use verbose. Then run rpm --rebuilddb to put the rpm database in a consistent state. That should have you back in business. You can test by running another yum update. It might complain about rpm updates outside yum, but that's all right. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XWLFOMUB2CZ3YT35OTQKO6PCZGF7IAQT/
Re: gitlab on Fedora 28
On Sat, 26 May 2018 09:37:39 -0500 Ranjan Maitra wrote: > An user had, in 2016, installed a gitlab (8.x, don't recall x > anymore) version that was the latest at the time using the EL7 RPM. > However, the upgrade to Fedora 28 has stopped this from working. We > tried upgrading gitlab using step by step the 8.x+ version but it is > unable to update and unusable. Not surprising since the latest version on their page is 10.8. > Any suggestions as to what we should be looking at and how to fix > this. I guess the hope is to have a functional gitlab on the Fedora > 28 system. There is nothing in the fedora repositories, so it has to be done using the gitlab tools. I just had a look at this page https://about.gitlab.com/installation/ I see there installation instructions for both centos7 and a docker image. I think in F28 it is possible to install the docker image (a self contained gitlab instance?). But it should also be possible to use the centos7 image. I haven't tried either, so could be wrong, and there will probably be some tweaking required for the centos7 procedure. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/5VFLENT67ZUHFA6XAEPFBEBCNOP6JZBG/
Re: dmesg spam after f26 -> f27 upgrade
On Sat, 26 May 2018 13:38:29 +0100 John Pilkington wrote: > I just upgraded my kde/f26 system to f27 using dnf. It seems to be > working well but dmesg has > > rc rc1: error -5 > > repeated around 10 times per second. ISTR that when I first saw it > it was rc0: > > Searching hasn't been much help. I use MythTV but not the lirc > infra-red remote-control features, and thought it might be > lirc-related, so installed lirc-disable-kernel-rc. But the messages > continue. They make it impossible to query dmesg for anything else. > > /etc/rc.d includes various Kxxx files, and rc-local.service is > 'static' > > Suggestions please... No specific idea, but anything writing that often should be visible in top. Once you know what program it is, you can use rpm -qf to find which package it is. You could also try disabling dmesg logging, and see what complains. Does anything show up in journalctl -r? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/B64LJRDKJINSLEGWJRH6BQT2X5OPW5DP/
Re: dual boot Windows10 fedora28
On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 20:03:59 +0200 (CEST) "peterlesterh...@telfort.nl" wrote: > Hi, > I purchased an Asus laptop with 2 hard drives (SSD 256 GB and HDD 1 > TB). Windows10 was preinstalled on the SSD and the HDD drive is used > for data. I wanted to install fedora alongside Windows. > So I shrinked the partition on the SSD drive (sdb) and also the > partition on the HDD drive (sda). I installed fedora on the new > partition of the SDD drive. So far so good. I can boot into Windows > as well as Fedora. Now I want to have /home, /usr/ and/ /tmp on the > HDD drive, which I intend to use as data-drive. I created a > mountpoint for the new partition of the HDD drive (sudo > mkdir /mnt/sda2 and sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2). Now I am stuck. > This is beyond my (limited) skills. How do I realize that /home, /usr > and and /tmp wil be stored on the HDD? I need a step-by-step tutorial > to proceed. Thanks in advance. Peter I don't do this, so I'll just point you in the right direction. First, don't use the drive id to mount partitions. Run /usr/sbin/blkid and use the UUID in /etc/fstab, in lines like this. UUID=6fce1ad7-4382-4634-8a62-7ac8d707f5ff /mnt/s2b3 ext4 defaults0 2 And you won't mount at /mnt/sda2, you'll mount at /home, /usr /tmp in order to do what you want. You'll have to create those directories under your new partition, and make sure they have the correct parameters (the same as /usr and /home have under /). Some caveats. /tmp is a temporary directory in that it is created each boot. Not sure how well your separate mount point will play with that default behavior. I vaguely recall that /usr is required to be on the same partition as /, in order for the kernel to find it during boot. This is because everything is now under /usr (libraries, binaries, etc.) If that is true, a separate /usr won't fly. Finally, these new partitions don't replace the existing partitions under / (except for /tmp). So all the space they are using will still be used, unless you clean it up after your new partitions are in place. Someone else here might be able to give you better instructions (and correct any errors I've made). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/55QUAAO5ESAGWVCEPL4DAJUQV3PWWCUV/
Re: any upcoming resolution on rubygem-prawn-templates install issue?
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:47:23 -0400 (EDT) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > it's been impossible to install rubygem-prawn-templates on fedora > for some time, as documented here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1553711 > > "Error: >Problem: conflicting requests > - nothing provides rubygem(pdf-reader) < 2 needed by > rubygem-prawn-templates-0.0.4-4.fc28.noarch" > > and no one seems to be working on this. anyone know of any plans to > resolve this issue? You can resolve it for yourself. It seems that pdf-reader has been updated since the F28 mass rebuild, but prawn-templates has not. That might be because it is incompatible with pdf-reader > 2 and upstream has not fixed it. Or it might be orphaned. You can go here, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1040445 and get the older pdf-reader. Then use dnf dnf -C downgrade [pdf-reader package] That should allow you to install prawn-templates, but you'll have to block pdf-reader from updating (see man dnf and man dnf-conf). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/IDIV5JUM726N5UC7UCLMWZSAFI33Y26N/
Re: FC27 packages after upgrade
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:10:36 +0100 Ronaldo Mercado wrote: > Hi, > > I upgraded last week to fedora 28. > > Today I found that 'dnf upgrade' could not complete. > > $ sudo dnf upgrade > Last metadata expiration check: 0:10:55 ago on Sat 16 Jun 2018 > 12:26:26 BST. Error: > Problem 1: package kernel-modules-extra-4.16.11-200.fc27.x86_64 > requires kernel-uname-r = 4.16.11-200.fc27.x86_64, but none of the > providers can be installed > - conflicting requests > Problem 2: package kernel-4.16.11-200.fc27.x86_64 requires > kernel-core-uname-r = 4.16.11-200.fc27.x86_64, but none of the > providers can be installed > - conflicting requests > > I solved that by removing the two packages I think kernel-modules-extra was discontinued in the f28 kernels. Removing the two packages should resolve your problem for the future. > I notice that there are several 'fc27' packages in my upgraded system > and I paste the list below. > > Is this a cause for concern? No, they are probably holdovers from F27 that weren't rebuilt during the F28 mass rebuild, or are orphans that no longer exist in F28. If they are updated in F28, they will be replaced. > What is '@anaconda' (found in the third column in the listing below)? anaconda is the Fedora installer, so those are probably leftovers from the install of F27. Bottom line, you are good to go, just some cruft showing up. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/LWFRXAOCXF3V2KKN2Y52VZ6A7K2TQCLV/
Re: FC27 packages after upgrade
On Sun, 17 Jun 2018 13:31:30 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 16 June 2018, stan sent: > > anaconda is the Fedora installer, so those are probably leftovers > > from the install of F27. > > I've always wondered *why* anaconda gets installed on a new system, > and why it receives updates. I don't know the answer to that question. Maybe someone else can explain the rationale. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/DFJ3B4RDP3MDYI5CSOPS3PG2UQZX4EUA/
Re: cpupower
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 03:55:23 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 24 June 2018, JD sent: > > Reason I am posting this is because the normal speed of the cores > > is 2.8GHz, and that is causing numerous kerneloops interrupts > > (overheating). > > Fans are at full speed all the time, as I can hear them :) :) > > Sounds like you have inadequate cooling, and that's going to be a long > term problem that mayn't be avoided by what you're trying to do. > > Hot components need a large enough heatsink to dissipate their heat, > and it needs to be firmly attached, with heatsink compound filling the > tiny gap between chip and heatsink. > > Heatsinks need to have a fan, or other heat distribution scheme, to > make the heat radiate away sufficiently, and quickly enough. > > The case needs to have airflow that brings in fresh air, and expels > hot air (running a case with the cover off can prevent adequate > airflow *across* things, likewise with other obstacles in the case). > Even systems that use liquid cooling still need to move air through > the computer case, because not everything that generates heat will be > directly connected to the cooling system. > > I've thought about buying one of those little fridges and putting the system in it. Some advantages: - keeps the system cool (set the fridge to 70F (20C), or even lower) - closes off the noise of the system, I think fridges are quieter - keeps dust out of the system Would have to cut holes for the cables, and seal them. And it would be bulkier. One of these days. Maybe. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Z2F7LB6ZLUFX7NORMLEOTIT4COC7PRRS/
Re: cpupower
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:27:04 -0600 JD wrote: > Manpage of cpu power make no mention of the > selection of governor. > How can set the governor to be the user mode governor > instead of the performance governor and not the ondemand governor? This might get you closer. I didn't see anything directly relevant on a quick scan, but a closer read might reveal something. https://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/admin-guide/pm/cpufreq.rst ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/K4PS46CYVAJ63QUQDDET7PH3PKA5672D/
Re: cpupower
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:27:04 -0600 JD wrote: > Manpage of cpu power make no mention of the > selection of governor. > How can set the governor to be the user mode governor > instead of the performance governor and not the ondemand governor? You can check which governor was compiled as default in your kernel by running grep -i on the config file in /boot for your running kernel. Because I compile my own kernel, I set that to ondemand as part of the configuration during the build. One way to solve your problem would be to compile your own kernel, and set it to what you want. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZN4JHQKEKNICZKKNRDINUSOAXYKLM55W/
Re: cpupower
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:45:27 +0930 Tim via users wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 24 June 2018, stan sent: > > I've thought about buying one of those little fridges and putting > > the system in it. > > I remember seeing a page or two about people doing that, many years > ago. Though I can't recall what their success was like. > > I'd be concerned about moisture/condensation. I'll have to look for those pages. I think condensation isn't an issue because there would be nothing to give off moisture, and the cool dry air is dehydrating. Leave a carrot out in the fridge for a few days without any wrapping and it will start to become dried vegetable. The condensation occurs because of warming and cooling when vegetables are wrapped in plastic. The vegetables give up their moisture, and the plastic is cooler than the vegetables because the fridge is blowing cold air over it, so the water condenses. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MO53VRRX7EUNWCABCCRZ55WGOTAAHC37/
Re: cpupower
On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 21:26:04 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/24/2018 09:13 PM, Doug wrote: > > What makes you folks think that a computer will run faster in a > > refrigerated environment? Only if it was too hot to begin with > > should it make any difference. > > Remember, this thread started out talking about working around a CPU > overheating. Because of Tim's comment, I did a search for any info on this, and found this video on youtube that addresses exactly this question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8bhGw4vUFE No cigar, the fridge just isn't designed to dissipate that kind of heat on a continuous basis. Saved me the time, money, and effort. :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/PLQ4VNYU7OAWN4VZKH55EJV3GGRVC4HI/
Re: [OT] modula-2 compiler [ISO] for fedora 28
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:28:27 +0200 Joachim Backes wrote: > anybody knows where to get an ISO version of the modula-2 compiler > for LINUX, especially FEDORA-28? http://www.nongnu.org/gm2/download.html Covers all versions, apparently. Will have to use legacy gcc (6 or less). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/UEIVOXQJJOXBIJPBTIKMQFSLWXQIUQLQ/
Re: How to install MPEG-4 AAC decoder ?
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:35:01 + 郭 灵贤 wrote: > How to install MPEG-4 AAC decoder ? I am a beginner of linux , I need > detailed step . I'll presume you want to play mp4 videos on linux. Go here, https://rpmfusion.org/ and click the link to enable rpmfusion on your system, https://rpmfusion.org/Configuration Once that is done, from a command line (in a virtual console or in a graphical term) type dnf install mplayer vlc ffmpeg You can then use man mplayer or man ffmpeg or man vlc to get information on how to use them to play videos. e.g. mplayer [video name here] ffplay [video name here] vlc [video name here] There is a graphical interface smplayer to use mplayer in the gui, and vlc is automatically a gui program. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/TMIKVQIARANL5TNJFEYGH464YFVVLH2F/
Re: Live ISO image creation
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:31:02 +0300 Jozsef K via users wrote: > I have a question about live ISO image creation. What I would like to > achieve is to install exfat-utils and fuse-exfat while I am in live > environment and then to create a new ISO image file which would be > the same as the one I booted but with addition of those two packages. > Is that possible? I haven't done this, but from observing conversations over time, it is possible. However, I don't think it is possible in the way you want to do it, clone an existing running system, with changes, as an ISO. Here is a reference link. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image.html See particularly the section 'Creating and using live CD' ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/MKNQLV2SOWVDNRDA6WO5CPSXSLBKCCQR/
Re: pychess endless loop - does anyone know, whom to address?
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 03:25:08 -0400 Joerg Lechner via users wrote: > I like to play chess with Pychess, on Fedora and Win. Sometimes > Pychess seems to run in an endless loop. Does anyone know whom to > address? I attach the log of this play. The log doesn't give any insight. However, this is probably a bug in the move determination logic. You should check for the issue, and if it isn't mentioned, open a ticket, here: https://github.com/pychess/pychess/issues ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/O44MOFUTTDNH47XYK5HWPU4Q4AJNGGJE/
Re: Live ISO image creation
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 22:09:54 +0300 Jozsef K via users wrote: > Thanks. It's useful. But it > seems I'll have to install Fedora first. In that case, if I take the > Fedora Security Lab Live image and install that, am I going to get > all the applications available on that live system even after > installation? Yes, the live install is like taking a photograph of the live image, and pasting it onto the hard drive / install location. > Right now the option I'm using is to install > exfat-utils and fuse-exfat locally. I saved the RPM files on another > USB. I don't need those every time but occasionally I can install > them like that, manually. But if I have everything in one place it's > more convinient. You would have to put them in the live image you create to have them available without install. I guess it depends on how much inconvenience occasionally installing them is versus how much effort it takes to create the live iso with them on it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VDGIKM4LICO533GCVOBXQ74G7X3MHYUK/
