[RBW] Re: Rear derailleur hanger fail.

[Angus]

I've done this one, twice.  Was never able to save the derailleur...

Angus


On Apr 14, 12:15 am, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> Story goes...My little brother is riding along the mad streets of UC
> Davis. As he is riding along he hears a small little click coming from
> his rear wheel. Being a college student on his way to class he thinks
> nothing of it. Then all of a sudden he rear wheel locks up and he
> comes to aburpt stop. He looks back and he finds that he rear
> derailleur is caught into his spokes, and the hanger is bent like a
> limp noodle. The culprit? A small twig caught into the derailleur
> pulleys.The only thing that stops his rear derailleur from trashing
> his rear wheel is his fender stay. He sends pictures via interaweb.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623850994428/
>
> Crazy college students. Replacements are underway. Question is if the
> rear derailleur salvageable?
>
> -Manny "Twigs can be dangerous too" Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[Angus]

I feel fortunate that I have shoulders or lightly drive streets for
most of my 7.5 mile commute to work.

My work is on a heavily traveled multi-lane road with no shoulder, so
I ride in the grass along the side the road.  It's quite bumpy and
such, but a bit of off road riding on the commute is not such a bad
thing.

Fortunately I haven't had too many problems with cars and I've tried
to adopt the Buddhist philosophy that they are providing me with an
opportunity to practice my patience.  Based on past results...I need
more practice :-)

Angus

On Apr 14, 1:02 am, charlie  wrote:
> If you don't have a good route, commuting on a bicycle is no fun. I
> guess this is why we read so much about Grant and the gang riding in
> the hills so much. I am fortunate to start my route on rural country
> roads with a decent shoulder and I have a bike lane that borders the
> shoulder of a four lane Avenue leading to decent side streets near a
> local college that is near my work. Its 20 miles one way so it makes a
> fine commute although a little long. I haven't had any drivers do
> anything in the last year when riding near my home but the commute
> just started for me on Monday and I will only ride it twice per week
> for now. We'll see how it goes with auto drivers.  I know what you
> mean when someone puts your life/health in danger. Try not to let it
> affect you too much since the negative stress from getting angry isn't
> good for you and will shorten your life.
>
> On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
> > This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the PCH 
> > from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota 
> > pickup with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and 
> > over the side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was 
> > close to the Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was 
> > riding through Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates 
> > containing "FORE") decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same 
> > white pickup truck with the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was 
> > yelling and gesturing at this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I 
> > was mad enough to take this guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him 
> > so I whipped out my phone. He must have seen this and he took off. The rest 
> > of my commute all I could think about was finding one of these two vehicles 
> > parked along my route so I could report them. Unfortunately, I was unable 
> > to see the plate of the truck and I only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I 
> > hate it when my commute is ruined by people whose idea of fun is crap like 
> > this.
>
> > Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense may 
> > be your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat 
> > someone with a CO2 cannister?)
>
> > Joe
>
> > _
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[RBW] Re: A Light Project

[Angus]

Eric,

The light goes very well with the town bike; quite stylish.

It is good to be able to reuse something from the past from time to
time.

Angus

On Apr 13, 2:37 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> A small project from this past weekend: mounting a headlight that I  
> first used some 30 years ago. I can't remember why I saved it, but I  
> found it while cleaning out the garage last month. It has survived  
> several moves and still works. Switch on the top for high and low  
> beams.  I think it goes with my town bike quite well.
>
> Taken by Campy Onlyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4518834536

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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[Angus]

With the Silver Hupe, for me the seat stay diameter made a difference.

On the Quickbeam, with single tapered seat-stays it gouged the paint a
bit and didn't want to fit around the larger diameter seat stays.
On the Rambouillet with double tapered seat-stays, noticeable smaller
diameter, it fit just fine.

Angus

On Apr 5, 8:34 pm, LF  wrote:
> On Apr 5, 5:21 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:> I had the same 
> problem with mine.  Definitely suggest wrapping some cloth bar tape around 
> the stays before mounting the Hupe.
>
> > --Eric
>
>  cloth,even shellacked, will not offer full protection from a silver
> hupe. I know from experience.  Maybe a few layers of inner tube will
> do the trick?  That said, I love my silver hupe.  It allows me to use
> the same bike for commuting, shopping,and club rides.  easy on/ easy
> off. Make a bike more versatile.  I carried such heavy loads on mine
> that it bent.  I'm going to do my best  to bend it back.
>
> Silver hupe on back, Wald Quick Release  index.cfm/wald114basket.html> on front -- for getting the most  out of
> one bike.
>
> Best,
> Larry

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Re: [RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[PATRICK MOORE]

Good for you; I could -- ought to -- do the same.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Angus  wrote:

> I feel fortunate that I have shoulders or lightly drive streets for
> most of my 7.5 mile commute to work.
>
> My work is on a heavily traveled multi-lane road with no shoulder, so
> I ride in the grass along the side the road.  It's quite bumpy and
> such, but a bit of off road riding on the commute is not such a bad
> thing.
>
> Fortunately I haven't had too many problems with cars and I've tried
> to adopt the Buddhist philosophy that they are providing me with an
> opportunity to practice my patience.  Based on past results...I need
> more practice :-)
>
> Angus
>
> On Apr 14, 1:02 am, charlie  wrote:
> > If you don't have a good route, commuting on a bicycle is no fun. I
> > guess this is why we read so much about Grant and the gang riding in
> > the hills so much. I am fortunate to start my route on rural country
> > roads with a decent shoulder and I have a bike lane that borders the
> > shoulder of a four lane Avenue leading to decent side streets near a
> > local college that is near my work. Its 20 miles one way so it makes a
> > fine commute although a little long. I haven't had any drivers do
> > anything in the last year when riding near my home but the commute
> > just started for me on Monday and I will only ride it twice per week
> > for now. We'll see how it goes with auto drivers.  I know what you
> > mean when someone puts your life/health in danger. Try not to let it
> > affect you too much since the negative stress from getting angry isn't
> > good for you and will shorten your life.
> >
> > On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> >
> > > This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the
> PCH from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota
> pickup with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and
> over the side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was close
> to the Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was riding
> through Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates containing
> "FORE") decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same white pickup
> truck with the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was yelling and
> gesturing at this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I was mad
> enough to take this guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him so I
> whipped out my phone. He must have seen this and he took off. The rest of my
> commute all I could think about was finding one of these two vehicles parked
> along my route so I could report them. Unfortunately, I was unable to see
> the plate of the truck and I only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I hate it
> when my commute is ruined by people whose idea of fun is crap like this.
> >
> > > Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense
> may be your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat
> someone with a CO2 cannister?)
> >
> > > Joe
> >
> > > _
> > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your
> inbox.
> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTA...
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Re: [RBW] Rear derailleur hanger fail.

[Sean Whelan]

Hard to tell, but it looks like a campagnolo mirage rear derailer.
Campagnolo does sell the parts individually, but as it is a discontinued 
product line,
they are fairly cheap to replace.

Should be about 30 bucks new on ebay.

Sean

--- On Wed, 4/14/10, manueljohnacosta  wrote:

From: manueljohnacosta 
Subject: [RBW] Rear derailleur hanger fail.
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 1:15 AM

Story goes...My little brother is riding along the mad streets of UC
Davis. As he is riding along he hears a small little click coming from
his rear wheel. Being a college student on his way to class he thinks
nothing of it. Then all of a sudden he rear wheel locks up and he
comes to aburpt stop. He looks back and he finds that he rear
derailleur is caught into his spokes, and the hanger is bent like a
limp noodle. The culprit? A small twig caught into the derailleur
pulleys.The only thing that stops his rear derailleur from trashing
his rear wheel is his fender stay. He sends pictures via interaweb.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623850994428/

Crazy college students. Replacements are underway. Question is if the
rear derailleur salvageable?

-Manny "Twigs can be dangerous too" Acosta

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[RBW] Re: 3 Capes 300k

[Lesli]

Lynne and I rode together on Saturday on matchy-match Rivendells.
More evidence of participation:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/sets/72157623833253900/

On Apr 13, 9:23 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
> Lynne,
> That sounds like a very impressive bit of riding in a gorgeous part of
> the state. I would love to ride some brevets. My work schedule,
> however, makes Saturday rides impossible without taking time off. To
> the best of my knowledge ALL the OR Randonneur events are on
> Saturdays.

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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[GeorgeS]

Man, I am so glad to read this thread.  I kept thinking it was just
me.  Now I can throw mine away w/o guilt.  I agree that it should not
be sold or resold.  Nice people don't do stuff like that.
GeorgeS

On Apr 14, 4:55 am, Angus  wrote:
> With the Silver Hupe, for me the seat stay diameter made a difference.
>
> On the Quickbeam, with single tapered seat-stays it gouged the paint a
> bit and didn't want to fit around the larger diameter seat stays.
> On the Rambouillet with double tapered seat-stays, noticeable smaller
> diameter, it fit just fine.
>
> Angus
>
> On Apr 5, 8:34 pm, LF  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 5, 5:21 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:> I had the same 
> > problem with mine.  Definitely suggest wrapping some cloth bar tape around 
> > the stays before mounting the Hupe.
>
> > > --Eric
>
> >  cloth,even shellacked, will not offer full protection from a silver
> > hupe. I know from experience.  Maybe a few layers of inner tube will
> > do the trick?  That said, I love my silver hupe.  It allows me to use
> > the same bike for commuting, shopping,and club rides.  easy on/ easy
> > off. Make a bike more versatile.  I carried such heavy loads on mine
> > that it bent.  I'm going to do my best  to bend it back.
>
> > Silver hupe on back, Wald Quick Release  > index.cfm/wald114basket.html> on front -- for getting the most  out of
> > one bike.
>
> > Best,
> > Larry- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[Seth Vidal]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, GeorgeS  wrote:
> Man, I am so glad to read this thread.  I kept thinking it was just
> me.  Now I can throw mine away w/o guilt.  I agree that it should not
> be sold or resold.  Nice people don't do stuff like that.
> GeorgeS
>

If you want to throw it away, you could put it in a box and send it to
me. I'm willing to give it a try on a used bike. One with lots of
scratches already.

-sv

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[RBW] Silver Hupe love

[Jon Grant]

From: GeorgeS 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

Man, I am so glad to read this thread.  I kept thinking it was just
me.  Now I can throw mine away w/o guilt.  I agree that it should not
be sold or resold.  Nice people don't do stuff like that.
GeorgeS

---

Rather than throwing it away, send it to me. I¹ll reimburse postage by
PayPal, even throw in a couple of extra bucks for packing. I have an old
bike I¹d like to try it on.

Thanks!

--
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Illustration + Information Graphics
Austin, Texas
jgr...@papagrant.com
512-284-9599

Drawings ‹ all sorts

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[RBW] Re: Rear derailleur hanger fail.

[manueljohnacosta]

Deraillieur already bought. Now bigger question what to do about the
old one? Did someone say creative piece?


On Apr 14, 6:40 am, Sean Whelan  wrote:
> Hard to tell, but it looks like a campagnolo mirage rear derailer.
> Campagnolo does sell the parts individually, but as it is a discontinued 
> product line,
> they are fairly cheap to replace.
>
> Should be about 30 bucks new on ebay.
>
> Sean
>
> --- On Wed, 4/14/10, manueljohnacosta  wrote:
>
> From: manueljohnacosta 
> Subject: [RBW] Rear derailleur hanger fail.
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 1:15 AM
>
> Story goes...My little brother is riding along the mad streets of UC
> Davis. As he is riding along he hears a small little click coming from
> his rear wheel. Being a college student on his way to class he thinks
> nothing of it. Then all of a sudden he rear wheel locks up and he
> comes to aburpt stop. He looks back and he finds that he rear
> derailleur is caught into his spokes, and the hanger is bent like a
> limp noodle. The culprit? A small twig caught into the derailleur
> pulleys.The only thing that stops his rear derailleur from trashing
> his rear wheel is his fender stay. He sends pictures via interaweb.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157623850994428/
>
> Crazy college students. Replacements are underway. Question is if the
> rear derailleur salvageable?
>
> -Manny "Twigs can be dangerous too" Acosta
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rear derailleur hanger fail.

[Seth Vidal]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:37 AM, manueljohnacosta
 wrote:
> Deraillieur already bought. Now bigger question what to do about the
> old one? Did someone say creative piece?
>

Pull the jockey wheels out - if they are still okay - you can use them
on another derailler later.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[muckum]

I would not insight the physical confrontation, but this will bring a
quick conclusion to it if they insist.
http://www.aerostich.com/2oz-pepper-spray.html

On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the PCH 
> from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota pickup 
> with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and over the 
> side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was close to the 
> Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was riding through 
> Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates containing "FORE") 
> decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same white pickup truck with 
> the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was yelling and gesturing at 
> this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I was mad enough to take this 
> guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him so I whipped out my phone. He 
> must have seen this and he took off. The rest of my commute all I could think 
> about was finding one of these two vehicles parked along my route so I could 
> report them. Unfortunately, I was unable to see the plate of the truck and I 
> only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I hate it when my commute is ruined by 
> people whose idea of fun is crap like this.
>
> Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense may be 
> your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat someone 
> with a CO2 cannister?)
>
> Joe
>
> _
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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[muckum]

I am also a motorcyclist and sometimes go the ironic humor route with
a " thumbs up" or a " wink and OK sign" in response to
bone head maneuvers.

On Apr 14, 8:29 am, muckum  wrote:
> I would not insight the physical confrontation, but this will bring a
> quick conclusion to it if they 
> insist.http://www.aerostich.com/2oz-pepper-spray.html
>
> On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
>
>
> > This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the PCH 
> > from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota 
> > pickup with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and 
> > over the side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was 
> > close to the Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was 
> > riding through Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates 
> > containing "FORE") decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same 
> > white pickup truck with the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was 
> > yelling and gesturing at this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I 
> > was mad enough to take this guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him 
> > so I whipped out my phone. He must have seen this and he took off. The rest 
> > of my commute all I could think about was finding one of these two vehicles 
> > parked along my route so I could report them. Unfortunately, I was unable 
> > to see the plate of the truck and I only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I 
> > hate it when my commute is ruined by people whose idea of fun is crap like 
> > this.
>
> > Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense may 
> > be your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat 
> > someone with a CO2 cannister?)
>
> > Joe
>
> > _
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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[Angus]

I carry pepper spray in a quick release clip on my handlebars...I put
it there for dogs, never thought about it as self defence against
confrontational motorists.

On Apr 14, 10:29 am, muckum  wrote:
> I would not insight the physical confrontation, but this will bring a
> quick conclusion to it if they 
> insist.http://www.aerostich.com/2oz-pepper-spray.html
>
> On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
>
>
>
> > This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the PCH 
> > from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota 
> > pickup with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and 
> > over the side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was 
> > close to the Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was 
> > riding through Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates 
> > containing "FORE") decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same 
> > white pickup truck with the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was 
> > yelling and gesturing at this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I 
> > was mad enough to take this guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him 
> > so I whipped out my phone. He must have seen this and he took off. The rest 
> > of my commute all I could think about was finding one of these two vehicles 
> > parked along my route so I could report them. Unfortunately, I was unable 
> > to see the plate of the truck and I only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I 
> > hate it when my commute is ruined by people whose idea of fun is crap like 
> > this.
>
> > Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense may 
> > be your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat 
> > someone with a CO2 cannister?)
>
> > Joe
>
> > _
> > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your 
> > inbox.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTA...-
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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[Matt Critchlow]

Sorry to hear about this Joe. That ride through Leucadia is always
sketchy in my opinion without a legit bike lane. Whenever I'm riding
south through Leucadia I head up to Neptune and go back to PCH in
Encinitas. It's slower, but I've personally had some close calls/angry
drivers along the Leucadia stretch too. Guess they're not all trying
to "Keep Leucadia Funky".

Hope today was a better ride!

Matt

On Apr 13, 8:50 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> This morning, my commute to work was a bit scary. As I headed down the PCH 
> from the Leucadia area, I was passed a bit too close by a white Toyota pickup 
> with a pipe tied to its passenger side (along the top of the bed and over the 
> side mirror) like a lance protruding from the front. This was close to the 
> Panickin Coffee place for those who are locals. Then, as I was riding through 
> Encinitas, some guy in a white Lexus SC430 (CA plates containing "FORE") 
> decides to buzz me. Then, before I knew it the same white pickup truck with 
> the pipe came along and buzzed me again. Now, I was yelling and gesturing at 
> this guy when he decided to slam on his brakes. I was mad enough to take this 
> guy on, but mostly I just wanted to report him so I whipped out my phone. He 
> must have seen this and he took off. The rest of my commute all I could think 
> about was finding one of these two vehicles parked along my route so I could 
> report them. Unfortunately, I was unable to see the plate of the truck and I 
> only got the "FORE" on the Lexus. I hate it when my commute is ruined by 
> people whose idea of fun is crap like this.
>
> Anyway, stay safe out there. And remember, sometimes your best defense may be 
> your phone (and maybe a frame pump...could you imagine trying to beat someone 
> with a CO2 cannister?)
>
> Joe
>
> _
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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[Mark Fredrickson]

I would also happily "recycle" a hupe. You shouldn't have to live with
that in your house. Let the nightmare end.

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[RBW] WTB: 61cm or 62cm 650B Riv

[Rob Harrison]

Greetings esteemed list members,

I am a newcomer on this list. I am currently a Rivendell enthusiast  
rather than Rivendell owner. I'd like to change that. :)


Here's what I'm (ideally) looking for:

• 650B, with room for Hetres.
• 61cm or 62cm frame size.
• Ideally, I'd like to buy a built up bike, but I'd also consider a  
frame/fork.
• Pretty flexible on build, but a 46cm Nitto Noodle bar and a small  
front rack would be nice.


I think this basically means a 61cm Bleriot, or (possibly) a 60cm or  
(probably) a 62cm Saluki, or a custom 650B. PBH is 88.3cm. So  
standover ought to be no more than ~85.75 cm. My saddle height is  
~78cm. Center of saddle to center of stem is currently 70cm.


My total dream bike is Estaban's ProtoVelo. I LOVE that bike! I'm  
trying to talk him into selling it to me


My intention is to keep my bought-new-in-1992 59cm Bridgestone RB-T  
for commuting, and use this new bike for fast and fun recreational  
rides--starting with the STP this year. And next year, maybe my first  
brevet...? The RB-T is too small for me, but works just fine for my  
daily 8-mile RT commute. It's now set up with Albatross bars, a  
Technomic stem and a 300mm seatpost, lots of lights and a Burley rear  
rack for our Piccolo Trail-a-Bike. I just weighed it at Elliot Bay  
Bicycles a while back and without the U-lock it was 32 lbs of utter  
utility. So yah, something a bit sportier would be good. :) I also  
like the idea of the S24O, and there are many opportunities for that  
in the Seattle area. I'm 55, and, um, working on flexibility. I weigh  
about 205 lbs right now, and according to the handy-dandy tire  
pressure spreadsheet I need at least Gran Bois Cypres-like tire width,  
and wider would be better. I'm not a parts snob, but I do believe I'm  
too poor to buy cheap things. My RB-T has done me pretty well for 18  
years, and I hope this bike will keep me happy for a couple decades as  
well. So bring on the Phil Rivvy hubs, but I'm ok with Deore, if  
that's what ya got. I'm intrigued by Campy brifters, but I've never  
ridden with them. Seven speeds seems to work pretty well, but heck,  
eight or nine might be even better. So far I definitely need a triple,  
but if my bike was 10 lbs lighter and I wasn't carrying my laptop and  
lunch, a compact double with a wide-range cassette might work.


Totally open to other suggestions, if you've got 'em. I'd consider,  
for example, a nice yellow RB-1 or similar, vintage-ish, lugged steel  
bike, if I can't yet find my Rivendell


Apologies for the long post. Thank you!

Rob in Seattle

P. S. If you'd like to read some of my early musings on this subject,  
have a look here: . 


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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[William]

I want a hupe, too.  Anyone who is tired of theirs, please let me know
and I'll liberate you from the heartache.

On Apr 14, 8:23 am, Mark Fredrickson 
wrote:
> I would also happily "recycle" a hupe. You shouldn't have to live with
> that in your house. Let the nightmare end.
>
> -M

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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[cm]

Wow!

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winning-rig/115224

What is next?

Cheers!
cm

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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[Seth Vidal]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, cm  wrote:
> Wow!
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winning-rig/115224
>
> What is next?
>

I believe there used to be a tshirt at riv that said:

"Still lugged Steel- vindication will come. Just you wait."

-sv

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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[Aaron Thomas]

Grant mentions this in yesterday's post:

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/229

On Apr 14, 1:20 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, cm  wrote:
> > Wow!
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-r...
>
> > What is next?
>
> I believe there used to be a tshirt at riv that said:
>
> "Still lugged Steel- vindication will come. Just you wait."
>
> -sv

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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[Rick]

My office is moving, and I am anticipating a different commute with
longer exposure to dense traffic, as well as the bummer consideration
of parking my Bleriot in a deck and not next to my desk.

I endorse the non-violent approach personally, but some DC bike
messenger associates I knew back in the early '90s carried pockets
full of washers to toss at less-considerate motorists.  Lots of one-
way street options in the urban environs made them impossible to catch
after the fact.

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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[bfd]

On Apr 14, 1:31 pm, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
> Grant mentions this in yesterday's post:
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/229
>
Someone ought to tell Grant that it was ONE rider that used a steel
fork, not the entire team:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winning-rig/115223

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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[Bruce]

Still do

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/only-and-always-tee/24-238




From: Seth Vidal 

>

I believe there used to be a tshirt at riv that said:

"Still lugged Steel- vindication will come. Just you wait."

-



  

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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[Jeremy Till]

Fear not.  The second wheel I ever built (i.e. not built by an expert)
was a 28 hole open pro to some "specialized" branded $7 (i kid you
not) nashbar special front hub, and it's seen now 4 years of hard use
on the 3 front of three different fixed gears under a ~200 lb (+ or -)
rider (so, not being ridden "lightly") on urban, road, and mixed-
terrain rides with nary a truing needed, much less signs of impending
explosion.

On Apr 12, 8:56 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Question for ya'll bicycle experts:  I have a well built 28 spoked Open Pro
> on the front of my "light weight" bike.  I've always been worried that it's
> going to explode on me for not having 32spokes.  Am I being overly
> paranoid?  I weight 175#, and have tires around 30mm on it but do take it on
> trails and such.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Patrick in VT  wrote:
>
>
>
> > in any event, I don't think "most" people need a 32/36 spoke
> > wheelset.  lighter riders would do fine on a well built 28/32, or even
> > lower spoke wheelset, especially when riding big 'ole tires.
>
> > that said; i absolutely see the value in a having a higher spoke
> > wheelset for touring, heavy duty commuting, etc.  i certainly
> > appreciate the higher spoke count on my commuter wheels - especially
> > on those dark winter commutes, when the unseen cracked pavement/
> > potholes/etc. are chomping at the wheels.
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[RBW] Grant posts about the Resurrection project

[William]

Grant's knothole today refers to their frame repair projects.  Looks
pretty cool.  There's a 66cm Rambu pictured.

I had the goofy idea of getting a couple suitable headtube lugs for $5
each from Riv, so that I could conceivably have a second top tube
added to my Hillborne if I ever get it painted.  I might get a few
lugs for tactile toys anyhow.

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Re: [RBW] Grant posts about the Resurrection project

[Robert F. Harrison]

Hmm...66cm...same as my Quickbeam...and I've been thinking about a bike with
gears...hmm...

Aloha!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 PM, William  wrote:

> Grant's knothole today refers to their frame repair projects.  Looks
> pretty cool.  There's a 66cm Rambu pictured.
>
> I had the goofy idea of getting a couple suitable headtube lugs for $5
> each from Riv, so that I could conceivably have a second top tube
> added to my Hillborne if I ever get it painted.  I might get a few
> lugs for tactile toys anyhow.
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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[doug peterson]

I still have that t-shirt.

On Apr 14, 1:20 pm, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, cm  wrote:
> > Wow!
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-r...
>
> > What is next?
>
> I believe there used to be a tshirt at riv that said:
>
> "Still lugged Steel- vindication will come. Just you wait."
>
> -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[cyclotourist]

I had a Hupe, worked fine, never damaged stays, but I preventively wrapped
w/ inner tubes.  I never had a lot of weight on it or used it that much.
Sold to another list member where I hope it's not a'gougin'.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:27 AM, William  wrote:

> I want a hupe, too.  Anyone who is tired of theirs, please let me know
> and I'll liberate you from the heartache.
>
> On Apr 14, 8:23 am, Mark Fredrickson 
> wrote:
> > I would also happily "recycle" a hupe. You shouldn't have to live with
> > that in your house. Let the nightmare end.
> >
> > -M
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[RBW] Re: 3 Capes 300k

[Oliver S.]

Ron - There's one exception - the Wine Country 200 on June 15, a
Tuesday.

On Apr 13, 9:23 pm, Ron MH  wrote:
> Lynne,
> That sounds like a very impressive bit of riding in a gorgeous part of
> the state. I would love to ride some brevets. My work schedule,
> however, makes Saturday rides impossible without taking time off. To
> the best of my knowledge ALL the OR Randonneur events are on
> Saturdays.

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[RBW] Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[Christine Masterson]

Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
details are written more than shown.
The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
1) what MAPS do riders like>
2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
route to begin.
3) I am pondering iPhone or Droid or Nexus One as an all-around stay in
touch, see maps, email Warm Showers folkscomments?  I am less attracted
to iPhone because of ATT; and actually, I would love to avoid any contract
with any provider, but it seems I cannot buy a contract-free Droid yet.

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[RBW] FS - 64 Atlantis - Not Mine

[Marty]

Hope it goes to someone here - my size, great price, but bad timing.

http://tinyurl.com/y487zsd

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Re: [RBW] Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[Anne Paulson]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Christine Masterson
 wrote:

> Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> details are written more than shown.
> The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> 1) what MAPS do riders like>

I have used the Adventure Cycling maps for the California coast.
They're great, and I highly recommend them. In the case where the
Adventure Cycling maps are different from the route in the Kirkendall
book, the Adventure Cycling maps have a better route.

Keep in mind, the California coast route is not complicated. Mostly,
it's Highway 1. Not that many turns.

> 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
> the Pacific to head out.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> route to begin.

BART. Not strenuous at all.

But getting to, say, Santa Cruz is going to require some climbing.
Either you go over Devil's Slide, or you ride down the Peninsula and
over the coast range. Either way, you'll have to go up. Santa Cruz to
Monterey is pretty easy, but then you start climbing again.

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Re: [RBW] Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[cyclotourist]

Doug, you can handle this one... :-)

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Christine Masterson  wrote:

> Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> details are written more than shown.
> The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> 1) what MAPS do riders like>
> 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
> the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> route to begin.
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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

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on 4/14/10 4:40 PM, doug peterson at dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

> I still have that t-shirt.

I've got the "Nobody, but nobody makes a monkey out of us" version...

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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

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on 4/14/10 1:16 PM, cm at chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Wow!
> 
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-race-winni
> ng-rig/115224
> 
> What is next?

They should really link directly to the Carbonomas, which is purt near a
dead ringer for that one -

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/carbonoms-fork/50-718

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[RBW] Re: Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[Jeremy Till]

I'd say the best route to get to the coast is BART to SF and then take
the "wiggle" bike route (you can probably google it) from market
street up to golden gate park, and ride out to the ocean through the
park.  Like anne says, you'll have to climb, first to get up and over
daly city and then the devil's slide climb, but both of these are
significantly less climbing than trying to cross the coast range
anywhere on the peninsula.

On Apr 14, 11:07 am, Christine Masterson 
wrote:
> Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> details are written more than shown.
> The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> 1) what MAPS do riders like>
> 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
> the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> route to begin.
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> touch, see maps, email Warm Showers folkscomments?  I am less attracted
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[RBW] Re: Chipping Hillborne Green

[relistan]

You guys all rock... I come here looking for touch up paint, feeling
bad about the 3 inch scratch I put in my frame this morning.  Now I
feel like there is a little hope...

Cheers,
Karl

On Mar 23, 5:15 pm, MikeC  wrote:
> Dick Denning of the The Country Bike Shop in Celina, OH told me that
> Sally Hanson, Lacquer Shine, Glow 03 is a near perfect match.
>
> -Mike
>
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> > Keven told me of a Sally Hansen brand green nail polish that matches. I've
> > forgotten the number, but when the nice woman at Walgreen's showed me the
> > Sally H collection, it shone brightly out at me from amongst its duller
> > peers. The bottle has the number 4070-04 on it, but you can't miss the
> > color.
>
> > I have a couple of ripples and scuffs totouchupmyself.
>
> > Patrick Moore, still trying to remove the purple, orange and pearl nail
> > polish on his thumbnails, put there by his daughter two weeks ago.
>
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Adam  wrote:
> > > Greetings all,
>
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> > > heard rumors of a nail polish remedy.  Any idea of the specific brand,
> > > color, or finish that is most approprite?
>
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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[Will]

A lady once ran me and my 25-lb bike off the road with her 3000-lb
Ford wagon -- and I was thankful for years of motorcycle safety
training which teaches one to look where he wants to go, not at what
he is trying to avoid (I stayed upright).   Trying to give her the
benefit of the doubt (maybe she simply didn't see me?) I caught her at
the next light and asked as politely and humbly as possible, "excuse
me ma'am, did you see that you came pretty close to a cyclist back
there?"  She replied, "yes, and if I had a f-g gun I would shoot
you." With that quote and her license plate number, the local police
were more than happy to get involved; she spent 6 weeks in anger-
management classes.  Cyclist +1; driver 0.  But generally, I endorse
the zero-response policy. Just ignore them.

Apologies taking this thread further off topic.

On Apr 14, 4:42 pm, Rick  wrote:
> My office is moving, and I am anticipating a different commute with
> longer exposure to dense traffic, as well as the bummer consideration
> of parking my Bleriot in a deck and not next to my desk.
>
> I endorse the non-violent approach personally, but some DC bike
> messenger associates I knew back in the early '90s carried pockets
> full of washers to toss at less-considerate motorists.  Lots of one-
> way street options in the urban environs made them impossible to catch
> after the fact.

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[RBW] A mustache moment

[Bruce]

We had a great after work ride yesterday. 8 of us tore around through some 
local hills for 23 miles. One fellow was on the yellow/black Lance replica 
TREK, another on his Scott Tri bike, and so forth. I took my Rivendell-ish old 
'79 Nashbar (I suspect made by Mariushi, but can't be sure) lugged steel crit 
race bike that came from another list member converted to 650B with mustache 
bars. Not being concerned with speed, there is a frame pump mounted on a seat 
stay and an OYB gunny sack slung under the seat. I am always the slow one. (On 
Saturday's 66 mile Peddalin' For A Cure ride I learned I was both the first 
rider registered and the dead last rider to finish riding. Talk about 
symmetry!) Anyway, I advertised the ride as 13 -15 mph avg, and was left behind 
at 18 mph as they accelerated away from me at 22. 

But not so much on the climbs. We regrouped at the store stop mid way, and upon 
leaving, they were only out ahead by 1/4 mile or so, and then we took some big 
climbs. I passed one, then another, another, and then I was in the middle of a 
pack of 4, standing not because I was tired, but because I was passing them. 
The Tri guy was still ahead of me as we returned to town and the last long 
climb back towards the start point. I got ahead of him in the first 100 yards, 
and by the top of the climb 2 miles later, had a good 1/4 - 1/2 mile lead! I 
have never ever led on one these outings. To say I am stoked is severe 
understatement. Of course, I could go out on the next ride and discover that my 
legs are completely lacking in get up and go, but until then I'm savoring the 
moment. 

The thing I really noticed is that mustache bars are great for hard climbs. The 
hand positions are perfect towards the bar ends for standing climbs, and the 
forward loops are great for seated climbing. On the downhills, you can get very 
aero on them as well. They've taken me some time to get used to, but I really 
likes 'em!



  

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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[cyclotourist]

Three votes for "fear not the exploding wheel!"

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jeremy Till  wrote:

> Fear not.  The second wheel I ever built (i.e. not built by an expert)
> was a 28 hole open pro to some "specialized" branded $7 (i kid you
> not) nashbar special front hub, and it's seen now 4 years of hard use
> on the 3 front of three different fixed gears under a ~200 lb (+ or -)
> rider (so, not being ridden "lightly") on urban, road, and mixed-
> terrain rides with nary a truing needed, much less signs of impending
> explosion.
>
> On Apr 12, 8:56 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Question for ya'll bicycle experts:  I have a well built 28 spoked Open
> Pro
> > on the front of my "light weight" bike.  I've always been worried that
> it's
> > going to explode on me for not having 32spokes.  Am I being overly
> > paranoid?  I weight 175#, and have tires around 30mm on it but do take it
> on
> > trails and such.
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > in any event, I don't think "most" people need a 32/36 spoke
> > > wheelset.  lighter riders would do fine on a well built 28/32, or even
> > > lower spoke wheelset, especially when riding big 'ole tires.
> >
> > > that said; i absolutely see the value in a having a higher spoke
> > > wheelset for touring, heavy duty commuting, etc.  i certainly
> > > appreciate the higher spoke count on my commuter wheels - especially
> > > on those dark winter commutes, when the unseen cracked pavement/
> > > potholes/etc. are chomping at the wheels.
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[RBW] Re: Commuting makes me angry...(might be a little ranty!)

[happyriding]

On Apr 14, 7:16 pm, Will  wrote:
> With that quote and her license plate number, the local police
> were more than happy to get involved; she spent 6 weeks in anger-
> management classes.  Cyclist +1; driver 0.
>

Sorry, there's a scoring dispute.  If the only penalty for attempted
homicide is 6 weeks of napping in some anger management class, then
once again cyclists have lost.



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[RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

[Aaron Thomas]

Close, indeed, but no cigar. In my opinion, the Carbonomas is more
elegant than the 3T on the Focus. Riv's prototype recalls the Colnago
precisa style fork, which I think is really nice looking, albeit in a
non-traditional way. The 3T is squished looking, like they tried to
make it more "aero" or something. It upsets my aesthetic
sensibilities, but I'm glad to see it out in the peloton. Who knows?
Maybe we'll see the Carbonomas featured in next year's Hell of the
North.

One bit of good news in the meantime is that the Carbonomas quite
easily takes a Challenge Paris-Roubaix 28mm tire (I slipped mine in
the last time I was at RBWHQ to see if it fits). I actually want one
of those forks; I just need to find a frame to buy for it!

Aaron

On Apr 14, 5:34 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 4/14/10 1:16 PM, cm at chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Wow!
>
> >http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/photos/roubaix-tech-cancellaras-r...
> > ng-rig/115224
>
> > What is next?
>
> They should really link directly to the Carbonomas, which is purt near a
> dead ringer for that one -
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/carbonoms-fork/50-718
>
> Separated at birth, to be sure...
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> bone-machine, grown Lexan-armored tires, near-frictionless bearings, and gas
> filled shocks."
>
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[RBW] Re: A mustache moment

[Mike]

Good to know. I'm going to experiment with them this summer on one of
my bikes, possibly my Hilsen once I'm through with my brevet series.

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[RBW] Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[William]

I took the Bombdil out for a quick loop through Wildcat Canyon.  I
live right over the top of the hill from Rifle Range Road, so it's
extraordinarily easy access.  I still had the red Hetres on and
Wildcat was still pretty muddy.  East Bay Mud tends to stick to
everything so it was a touch sloppy.  I went north and popped out
Alvarado Park in Richmond and then back up to my house on the road.
The bike rides fantastic.  Very stable and yet does everything I want
it to.  The mud made me pull the trigger on some Quasi-Motos for an
option, and I found them for only $49 each, which seemed like a good
deal.  I posted a few pictures with the bike butched up a bit with the
knobbies.  It ties the black rack in a little better, too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4522484532/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4521861157/
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Re: [RBW] A mustache moment

[Bill Connell]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Bruce  wrote:
> The thing I really noticed is that mustache bars are great for hard climbs.
> The hand positions are perfect towards the bar ends for standing climbs, and
> the forward loops are great for seated climbing. On the downhills, you can
> get very aero on them as well. They've taken me some time to get used to,
> but I really likes 'em!


I liked 'em a lot when i was hauling kids in a trailer too, and i'll
be they'd be great on a cargo bike. They have great leverage. A lot of
people don't like them for longer rides, i'll admit i don't think i've
ridden them over about 20 miles at a stretch on my bikes.

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Re: [RBW] Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[Rene Sterental]

Looks even better now!

René

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[RBW] Re: Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[Brad Gantt]

Wow. Looks great. I'm starting to think about making some room in my
stable for a 'Dil.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[cyclotourist]

Hey, that's the way that bike is s'posed to look... like it!

so what's the story with the harlequin Pauls?  :-)

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[RBW] Re: Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[William]

The Harlequin Pauls?  I bought them one at a time, to replace Neo
Retros one at a time on my cyclocross bike.  I replaced the rear Neo-
Retro after I gashed my leg doing a dismount.  I replaced the front
Neo Retro when I had a persistent brake chatter issue.  When I was
ordering the second set, they only had black.  Instead of running one
black brake and one silver brake, I thought it would be kind of money
to run them left/right silver black.  I even built my wheelset with
silver spokes on the drive side and black on the non drive side.  Now
I've gotten attached to running them that way.  I wouldn't call it a
trademark, but I've rarely seen it elsewhere.

On Apr 14, 8:40 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Hey, that's the way that bike is s'posed to look... like it!
>
> so what's the story with the harlequin Pauls?  :-)
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[cyclotourist]

Might as well see about that trademark on it!  :-)

Nothing wrong with that!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, William  wrote:

> The Harlequin Pauls?  I bought them one at a time, to replace Neo
> Retros one at a time on my cyclocross bike.  I replaced the rear Neo-
> Retro after I gashed my leg doing a dismount.  I replaced the front
> Neo Retro when I had a persistent brake chatter issue.  When I was
> ordering the second set, they only had black.  Instead of running one
> black brake and one silver brake, I thought it would be kind of money
> to run them left/right silver black.  I even built my wheelset with
> silver spokes on the drive side and black on the non drive side.  Now
> I've gotten attached to running them that way.  I wouldn't call it a
> trademark, but I've rarely seen it elsewhere.
>
> On Apr 14, 8:40 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Hey, that's the way that bike is s'posed to look... like it!
> >
> > so what's the story with the harlequin Pauls?  :-)
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Brad Gantt  wrote:
> > > Wow. Looks great. I'm starting to think about making some room in my
> > > stable for a 'Dil.
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[RBW] Re: Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[doug peterson]

Bicycling the Pacific Coast, by Vicki Spring & Tom Kirkendall
(Mountaineers Books, Seattle) is the best resource around.  ACA's
stuff is good.  It's tough to read a map while you ride.  Just figure
you're going to stop to consult as needed.  Once you hit the coast,
it's pretty well signed with green signs all the way to San Diego.
I'll send you a route slip from the Fisherman's Wharf Hostel that gets
you out of the city.

Most mobile services will work down to Big Sur but then it gets spotty
until SLO.  Have no personal knowledge of the devices or services you
reference.

dougP

On Apr 14, 11:07 am, Christine Masterson 
wrote:
> Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> details are written more than shown.
> The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> 1) what MAPS do riders like>
> 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
> the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> route to begin.
> 3) I am pondering iPhone or Droid or Nexus One as an all-around stay in
> touch, see maps, email Warm Showers folkscomments?  I am less attracted
> to iPhone because of ATT; and actually, I would love to avoid any contract
> with any provider, but it seems I cannot buy a contract-free Droid yet.
>
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[RBW] Re: Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[William]

The Hostel in Santa Cruz is pretty sweet.  It's like an old victorian
house.  If you want to do short mileage the first day, Pigeon Point
Hostel is memorable.  I like to hostel it the first night just to ease
in to it.  Then Pfeiffer Big Sur camping the second night.  Big Sur to
San Simeon is a tough day, lots of climbing, but breathtaking.

On Apr 14, 9:01 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> Bicycling the Pacific Coast, by Vicki Spring & Tom Kirkendall
> (Mountaineers Books, Seattle) is the best resource around.  ACA's
> stuff is good.  It's tough to read a map while you ride.  Just figure
> you're going to stop to consult as needed.  Once you hit the coast,
> it's pretty well signed with green signs all the way to San Diego.
> I'll send you a route slip from the Fisherman's Wharf Hostel that gets
> you out of the city.
>
> Most mobile services will work down to Big Sur but then it gets spotty
> until SLO.  Have no personal knowledge of the devices or services you
> reference.
>
> dougP
>
> On Apr 14, 11:07 am, Christine Masterson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> > imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> > details are written more than shown.
> > The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> > 1) what MAPS do riders like>
> > 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here to
> > the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> > route to begin.
> > 3) I am pondering iPhone or Droid or Nexus One as an all-around stay in
> > touch, see maps, email Warm Showers folkscomments?  I am less attracted
> > to iPhone because of ATT; and actually, I would love to avoid any contract
> > with any provider, but it seems I cannot buy a contract-free Droid yet.
>
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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

[doug peterson]

David's ex-Hupe spent a happy winter on my Atlantis, supporting my
Hobo Bag rigged as a saddlebag.  Just tossed it on (well, it's a bit
more than that but not much) & loaded her down.  I'll take a look &
see if there is any paint damage I can lay off on the Hupe.  My
Atlantis gets pretty well used & abused, so it may be hard to tell.
Works fine for me, though.

dougP

On Apr 14, 5:11 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I had a Hupe, worked fine, never damaged stays, but I preventively wrapped
> w/ inner tubes.  I never had a lot of weight on it or used it that much.
> Sold to another list member where I hope it's not a'gougin'.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:27 AM, William  wrote:
> > I want a hupe, too.  Anyone who is tired of theirs, please let me know
> > and I'll liberate you from the heartache.
>
> > On Apr 14, 8:23 am, Mark Fredrickson 
> > wrote:
> > > I would also happily "recycle" a hupe. You shouldn't have to live with
> > > that in your house. Let the nightmare end.
>
> > > -M
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[RBW] Re: Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[Michael_S]

yup those Pacenti's look just right on the Bommba... the red
Hetres... well maybe not.

Nice style pints on the Paul's... not sayin' I'd do it but if it works
for you...

~Mike~

On Apr 14, 8:55 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Might as well see about that trademark on it!  :-)
>
> Nothing wrong with that!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:51 PM, William  wrote:
> > The Harlequin Pauls?  I bought them one at a time, to replace Neo
> > Retros one at a time on my cyclocross bike.  I replaced the rear Neo-
> > Retro after I gashed my leg doing a dismount.  I replaced the front
> > Neo Retro when I had a persistent brake chatter issue.  When I was
> > ordering the second set, they only had black.  Instead of running one
> > black brake and one silver brake, I thought it would be kind of money
> > to run them left/right silver black.  I even built my wheelset with
> > silver spokes on the drive side and black on the non drive side.  Now
> > I've gotten attached to running them that way.  I wouldn't call it a
> > trademark, but I've rarely seen it elsewhere.
>
> > On Apr 14, 8:40 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > > Hey, that's the way that bike is s'posed to look... like it!
>
> > > so what's the story with the harlequin Pauls?  :-)
>
> > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Brad Gantt  wrote:
> > > > Wow. Looks great. I'm starting to think about making some room in my
> > > > stable for a 'Dil.
>
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[RBW] Re: Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

[Michael_S]

Ditto on Doug's recommendation... also the Lonely Planet book "Cycling
USA West Coast" is a good reference book for this route. I normally
copy the pages that cover the section I"m doing so I don't mistakenly
drop the book in some lake or leave it somewhere.  I'm envious of your
trip .. I've done the North Coast section but not from SF south...
enjoy!!

~Mike~

On Apr 14, 9:08 pm, William  wrote:
> The Hostel in Santa Cruz is pretty sweet.  It's like an old victorian
> house.  If you want to do short mileage the first day, Pigeon Point
> Hostel is memorable.  I like to hostel it the first night just to ease
> in to it.  Then Pfeiffer Big Sur camping the second night.  Big Sur to
> San Simeon is a tough day, lots of climbing, but breathtaking.
>
> On Apr 14, 9:01 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Bicycling the Pacific Coast, by Vicki Spring & Tom Kirkendall
> > (Mountaineers Books, Seattle) is the best resource around.  ACA's
> > stuff is good.  It's tough to read a map while you ride.  Just figure
> > you're going to stop to consult as needed.  Once you hit the coast,
> > it's pretty well signed with green signs all the way to San Diego.
> > I'll send you a route slip from the Fisherman's Wharf Hostel that gets
> > you out of the city.
>
> > Most mobile services will work down to Big Sur but then it gets spotty
> > until SLO.  Have no personal knowledge of the devices or services you
> > reference.
>
> > dougP
>
> > On Apr 14, 11:07 am, Christine Masterson 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Just received Adventure Cycling maps for riding the Ca. Coast.  I can't
> > > imagine being able to read them as I ride because they are so small, and
> > > details are written more than shown.
> > > The Rivendell guys suggested I post here to ask:
> > > 1) what MAPS do riders like>
> > > 2) I live in Oakland...what route do you like best for getting from here 
> > > to
> > > the Pacific to head shout.  Would be nice not to take the most strenuous
> > > route to begin.
> > > 3) I am pondering iPhone or Droid or Nexus One as an all-around stay in
> > > touch, see maps, email Warm Showers folkscomments?  I am less 
> > > attracted
> > > to iPhone because of ATT; and actually, I would love to avoid any contract
> > > with any provider, but it seems I cannot buy a contract-free Droid yet.
>
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[RBW] Re: Grant posts about the Resurrection project

[Philip Williamson]

He says the pictured Rambouillet will be "painted, decalled some new
name, and sold."
I think if ever a bike deserved a "Resurrectio" badge, this one's it!
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/287/original_april_16B.pdf

 philip
mcminnville, ore.

On Apr 14, 4:37 pm, "Robert F. Harrison"  wrote:
> Hmm...66cm...same as my Quickbeam...and I've been thinking about a bike with
> gears...hmm...
>
> Aloha!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:19 PM, William  wrote:
> > Grant's knothole today refers to their frame repair projects.  Looks
> > pretty cool.  There's a 66cm Rambu pictured.
>
> > I had the goofy idea of getting a couple suitable headtube lugs for $5
> > each from Riv, so that I could conceivably have a second top tube
> > added to my Hillborne if I ever get it painted.  I might get a few
> > lugs for tactile toys anyhow.
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Re: [RBW] Orange Bombadil butched up a bit

[CycloFiend]

on 4/14/10 8:10 PM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4522484532/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4521861157/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4522494872/

Looks utterly unstoppable!  Nice set up.

- J

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Re: [RBW] Re: a different conception of "Fatties Fit Fine"

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on 4/14/10 6:50 PM, cyclotourist at cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

Three votes for "fear not the exploding wheel!"

Actually four.  Thought I'd sent it earlier.

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