archiv & IMAP

[Waldemar Brodkorb]

Hello *,

I'm using Mutt in combination with IMAP/SSL (Courier).
It works quite well since 2 month's.

Now I want to archive old mail's in mailinglists, works with
this macro:
macro index  "T ~d>1w\n;s\n" "Save messages older than a week"

Then I automated this behavior:
folder-hook mailbox 'push '

But there is one problem left, when the tagging did not match,
the actual mail in the mailbox is marked as deleted/saved.

Bruno Postle mentioned the same behavior yesterday.

O.k. it is only one key ('u') to solve this manually.  

Is this a bug? 

bye
Waldemar

'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[Matthias LOITSCH]

I'm sure that everybody here knows the problem that some email programs
don't know how to reply correctly to a mail... So the threads are
interrupted or shown something like this:
'*>

so i looked in the header of those emails, and found that the emails
which aren't recognized as an reply don't have the In-Reply-To and
the References field. Ok, there is nothing to do.

but in some mails, there *is* the References field (but not the
In-Reply-To) and mutt does *not* recognize it...
is the References field not a kind of In-Reply-To ?
: if not : what is the difference.
: if yes : why does mutt not see it as an reply, and can i change
  someting in the .muttrc to let mutt recognize it?


thanks.


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quoted-printable in headers

[Massimo D'Antoni]

I'm having some troubles with quoted-printable encoded characters in
headers (From and Subject).
I very often receive mails from
  =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o Leit=E3o?=
but the fact that there is a space in the encoded name keeps mutt from
showing it correctly. I noticed that everything works well if ' '
is replaced by '_'...
Is this a mutt problem or it depends (as I suspect) on the sender's
mailer (apparently he uses netscape webmail)? In the latter case, is 
there anything I can do?

Another question: is there a way to show a name encoded in
windows-1251 (cyrillic), given that the current character set in my
terminal is iso-8859-1?

Thanks

   Massimo

Re: Encrypt and mailing lists

[David T-G]

Suresh --

...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said...
% David T-G  [30/09/01 00:00 -0400]:
% > I think that an even better way would be to have a public key for the
% > mail list and for the list software to have everyone's public keys; you
% > encrypt the message so that only the list server can read it (simple on
% > your end), and it decrypts it and then tirelessly (albeit perhaps slowly)
% 
% This will not scale - and an MTA / listserv is not supposed to monkey with

Well, yeah, I know.


% the content of mail it sends across IMHO, by pgp signing, character set
% conversion or any other method.

I'd generally agree with you (especially about subject line munging ;-)
but this is what I'd consider a special case.


% 
% > [Alternatively, you could create a list key and distribute both the public
% > and private halves to list members (only!) and encrypt to that key and
% > send the encrypted message via any list server.  Or is that what you were
% > suggesting, Suresh?]
% 
% Exactly.  This would mean a list where subscription means meeting the
% moderator somehow and exchanging keys with him ... each member then signs
% that list key with his key to show that he trusts it.

Yeah, I suppose that's the simpler way.  But my idea sounds fun :-)


% 
%   --suresh

Thanks!


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Re: a timeout before "N" is gone

[David T-G]

Stefan --

...and then Stefan Antoni said...
% 
% 1 year ago i used "The Bat!" under windows for my email
% management. it had a nice function which still marked
% a message "new" when it was shown in the window where
% i could read it less than a few seconds.

Ah, the outlook preview pane.  Ugh :-)


% 
% mutt takes the "N" away when i just browse down my mail
% in the pager, but the text appears only for 1 second. i 
% just wanted to jump over it and read it later, but it 

I take it that you're just going by rather than actually reading the
message, since one second is pretty short.  You could always go back to
the index and move down to a message you want to read -- and save the
display time for all of those messages in between!


% is still new mail for me :)

Sure; I fake my mail status like that all of the time.


% 
% i'd like to have an timeout before it marks the email
% as read for deciding if i read it now, or perhaps later.
% let's say: 5 seconds.
% 
% is there a built-in way to do this, or do i have
% to look into the sources ( i am not a c-programmer :( )

mutt currently supports nothing like that, but it would be easy enough
for you to use 'N' (to toggle-new, which will reset the New flag that you
just cleared by reading the message) instead of 'j' (or, heaven forbid,
the arrow key) to move down to the next message.


% 
% -- 
% 
% thx in advance,
% Stefan Antoni

HTH & HAND


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Re: what is the difference?

[David T-G]

Mike --

...and then Mike Ayers said...
% looking at ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt i see 3 versions.
% 1.2.5i
% 1.3.22.1i
% and 
% 1.3.22i
% I understand that 1.2.5i is the stable release. What is the 

Yep.


% difference between 1.3.22.1i and 1.3.22i.  Also what are the new 

22.1 is a slight bugfix over 22.  You could check the archives for
announcements for more info (or take a look at the 22-22.1 diff).


% features in 1.3.xx from 1.2.5i.  is it worth upgrading to a 

Check the ChangeLog or README files or *gasp* the manual :-)


% 1.3.xx package?

Many would say so, particularly if you use IMAP or PGP/GPG.  I would say
so because it would give you a shakedown run before 1.4 is released soon
and you would be ready to upgrade to it.


% 
% thanks
% Mike Ayers

HTH & HAND


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Re: Filtering imap mail with a macro

[David T-G]

Bruno --

...and then Bruno Postle said...
% I'm helping someone set-up mutt with their imap account. Everything is
% fine except for filtering incoming mail - which is delivered by the
% server to the imap INBOX.

Good enough.


% 
% Procmail/maildrop isn't an option as there is no shell access to the

Is there no ftp access, either?  All you'd need is to drop in a .forward
file and a .procmailrc file...


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Re: archiv & IMAP

[David T-G]

Waldemar --

...and then Waldemar Brodkorb said...
% Hello *,

Hi!


% 
% I'm using Mutt in combination with IMAP/SSL (Courier).
% It works quite well since 2 month's.
% 
% Now I want to archive old mail's in mailinglists, works with
% this macro:
% macro index  "T ~d>1w\n;s\n" "Save messages older than a week"
% 
% Then I automated this behavior:
% folder-hook mailbox 'push '

That looks right.  I presume you have an mbox-hook or such to define
where to save the messages and all.


% 
% But there is one problem left, when the tagging did not match,
% the actual mail in the mailbox is marked as deleted/saved.
% 
% Bruno Postle mentioned the same behavior yesterday.

Yep :-(


% 
% O.k. it is only one key ('u') to solve this manually.  
% 
% Is this a bug? 

Not as such, since that's the way the code is written.  Unfortunately,
mutt's scripting capability is sadly lacking.  Maybe in 1.6 :-)


% 
% bye
% Waldemar

HTH & HAND


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Re: quoted-printable in headers

[David T-G]

Massimo --

...and then Massimo D'Antoni said...
% I'm having some troubles with quoted-printable encoded characters in
% headers (From and Subject).
% I very often receive mails from
%   =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o Leit=E3o?=
% but the fact that there is a space in the encoded name keeps mutt from
% showing it correctly. I noticed that everything works well if ' '
% is replaced by '_'...
% Is this a mutt problem or it depends (as I suspect) on the sender's
% mailer (apparently he uses netscape webmail)? In the latter case, is 
% there anything I can do?

I don't know much about international characters, but I do know that you
can garble incoming messages any way you wish with formail (or, perhaps
better for this case, sed) when using procmail.  If it's always email from
this fellow and the problems are regular, you could whip up an expression
to change spaces to underscores in the proper headers and use it as a
filter in procmail before the message is delivered to its target mailbox.


HTH & HAND

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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[David T-G]

Matthias --

...and then Matthias LOITSCH said...
% I'm sure that everybody here knows the problem that some email programs
% don't know how to reply correctly to a mail... So the threads are
% interrupted or shown something like this:
% '*>

Oh, yeah :-)


% 
% so i looked in the header of those emails, and found that the emails
% which aren't recognized as an reply don't have the In-Reply-To and
% the References field. Ok, there is nothing to do.

Well, you could use Cedric's edit_threads patch and link them into the
threads wherever you wish, for one.


% 
% but in some mails, there *is* the References field (but not the
% In-Reply-To) and mutt does *not* recognize it...
% is the References field not a kind of In-Reply-To ?
% : if not : what is the difference.
% : if yes : why does mutt not see it as an reply, and can i change
%   someting in the .muttrc to let mutt recognize it?

Are you sure that mutt doesn't recognize it?  If the References: field
contains only Message-IDs from messages not in your mailbox, then mutt
will have nothing to which to refer and thus be unable to thread that
message.  Same goes for I-R-T: headers; if they don't point to something
that mutt has, then they're pretty useless.


% 
% 
% thanks.

HTH & HAND


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vim+mutt

[Brian]

Hi,

I have recently updated my vim plugin for use with abook and other mail
handling tidbits.  Most notably, I've re-organized the way quotes are
found (re's are cool), and added a motion command that will operate over
a "quote level".  Below is an example:

1 > 
2 > : Hi,
3 > : How are you doing?
4 > : Did you get over that STD?
5 > Yeah, It only took a few months.
6 > 

Let's assume that the cursor is at line 2 and that our new motion
command is 'q'.  If we type 'dq', then the text will be transformed
into:

1 > 
2 > Yeah, It only took a few months.
3 > 

And, if type 'gqq' the text will become: (assuming 'comments' contains
"n::" and "n:>".

1 > 
2 > : Hi, How are you doing?  Did you get over that STD?
3 > Yeah, It only took a few months.
4 > 

Also, my patch for abook has been incorporated into abook 0.4.14
(abook.sourceforge.net).  My original mail plugin is also inside of the
'contrib' directory of abook, but it is an older version.  I've sent the
latest to the author, so hopefully, this new one will be added.  

If you would like a copy of this plugin please email me.  It requires
Vim 6.0.

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Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[Matěj Cepl]

Maybe, that I am asking too much, but my experience with mutt is
that everything is possible -- one just has to know, what to put
in .muttrc. So,

would it be possible to hide read messages in a newsgroups (using
VVV patch for nntp on mutt 1.3.22.1i and listerver is local
leafnode)? I mean, that it would be much better if there would be
only unread messages in opened newsgroup.

Sorry for my English, it's getting to late on me :-)

Thanks for answer

Matej Cepl

Anyone know anything about inews?

[Matěj Cepl]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:43:18 -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> Hey folks.  I am having a slight problem with inews.  I installed inn
> from the ports, so I could post news with a patched version of Mutt on
> FreeBSD.  When I try to post, I get a Child exited with error 127.
> Mutt calls with "/usr/local/news/bin/inews -hS"
> I am not running innd.

I had a similar problem, but when I used /etc/news/inn.conf from
my binary RedHat package of inn (just that file, I use leafnode
otherwise; and it may be different on FreeBSD), changed couple of
lines -- organization, server, and domain -- and it works. I have
not been able to work with inn.conf created according to
inn.conf(5) manpage (it told me always, that mta is not set, even
when it was).

If you wish, I can send you my inn.conf.

Have a nice day

Matej Cepl

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Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars

[Matěj Cepl]

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:54:53 -0400, Nelson D. Guerrero wrote:
> Did you try building mutt with --enable-locales-fix
> It has always worked for me.

Well, I have downloaded mutt-1.3.22.1 and VVV patches (together
with his .spec file; all from http://mutt.org.ua/download) to my
RedHat 7.0, compiled via rpm -ba and resulting mutt works with
accented characters just fine (no surprise, VVV is from Ukraine).

CFLAGS used for compilation were:

CFLAGS="$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -O0" LDFLAGS=-s ./configure \
--prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man \
--with-sharedir=/etc --sysconfdir=/etc \
--with-docdir=/usr/share/doc/%{name}-%{version} \
--enable-pop --enable-imap
--enable-nntp \
--with-ssl
--enable-compressed
--with-slang
--without-wc-funcs

Output of 'mutt -v' is attached.

Have a good luck

Matej Cepl

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`mutt -vv'.

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+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK
+USE_POP  +USE_NNTP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  +USE_SSL  -USE_SASL  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  +COMPRESSED  
+HAVE_COLOR  -HAVE_START_COLOR  -HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  -HAVE_BKGDSET  
-HAVE_CURS_SET  -HAVE_META  -HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+HAVE_PGP  -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  -HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET  
++HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_GETSID  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[Matthias LOITSCH]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:29:20AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Matthias --
> % 
> % so i looked in the header of those emails, and found that the emails
> % which aren't recognized as an reply don't have the In-Reply-To and
> % the References field. Ok, there is nothing to do.
> 
> Well, you could use Cedric's edit_threads patch and link them into the
> threads wherever you wish, for one.
> 
where can i find that patch?
> 
> Are you sure that mutt doesn't recognize it?  If the References: field
> contains only Message-IDs from messages not in your mailbox, then mutt
> will have nothing to which to refer and thus be unable to thread that
> message.  Same goes for I-R-T: headers; if they don't point to something
> that mutt has, then they're pretty useless.
yeah... sorry you're right. the message was not the direct reply of
mine... so the References: field was not the same as my Message-ID ...
that is not *really* mutts fault.. ;)


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Re: Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[Benjamin Smith]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 10:14:19PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Maybe, that I am asking too much, but my experience with mutt is
> that everything is possible -- one just has to know, what to put
> in .muttrc. So,
> 
> would it be possible to hide read messages in a newsgroups (using
> VVV patch for nntp on mutt 1.3.22.1i and listerver is local
> leafnode)? I mean, that it would be much better if there would be
> only unread messages in opened newsgroup.
> 
> Sorry for my English, it's getting to late on me :-)
> 
> Thanks for answer
> 
> Matej Cepl

Couldn't you use the limit feature to do this.

Try something like

l ~N

to only show new messages or

l ~N | ~O

to only show new and old messages.

limit works in any mailbox (or newsgroup).

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Re: Filtering imap mail with a macro

[Bruno Postle]

On Sat 29-Sep-2001 at 07:00:51PM +0100, Bruno Postle wrote:
> This seems to work, but it's insane (fun to watch though) - There must
> be a sane solution:

The fcc-save-hooks got mixed-up when I was rewriting for the list, my
insane macro should have looked like this (with the default spoolfile
hook at the end):

# fcc-save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] =mutt-users
# fcc-save-hook ~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] =mutt-dev
# fcc-save-hook . !
# 
# macro index  \
# '.'\
# 1\
# \
# \
# \
# \
# \
# \
# \
# \
# etc.. etc.. etc..
# \
#  \
# 'filter mail'

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Re: quoted-printable in headers

[Anand Buddhdev]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 11:28:21AM +0200, Massimo D'Antoni wrote:

> I very often receive mails from
>   =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o Leit=E3o?=
> but the fact that there is a space in the encoded name keeps mutt from
> showing it correctly. I noticed that everything works well if ' '
> is replaced by '_'...
> Is this a mutt problem or it depends (as I suspect) on the sender's
> mailer (apparently he uses netscape webmail)? In the latter case, is 
> there anything I can do?

The sender's mailer is bad. RFC 2047 says that spaces must NEVER be used in
an encoded word in a header, since a space is an atom separator. And yes,
an underscore is to be used for a space. You could fix it as the mail comes
in with some tool like sed or perl.

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Re: Filtering imap mail with a macro

[Bruno Postle]

On Sun 30-Sep-2001 at 12:47:53PM +1000, David wrote:
> I'm just wondering if it would be possible to use fetchmail or
> equivalents to pull the mail off the imap server then sort it with
> procmail/maildrop/etc ? 

It would, but the point of using imap is to use it for storage and
remote access - Ideally there would be a client tool that connected to
an imap INBOX, fetched specified headers from all the unread mail, then
issued lots of move/delete commands based on some regexes in a config
file - A piece of vapourware that has been discussed here before.

On Sun 30-Sep-2001 at 07:21:39AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Is there no ftp access, either?  All you'd need is to drop in a
> .forward file and a .procmailrc file...

Nope, not even a user account associated with the mailbox - This is a
dedicated imap server with virtual accounts.

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Re: Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[Matthias LOITSCH]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:33:17PM +0100, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> Couldn't you use the limit feature to do this.
> 
> Try something like
> 
> l ~N
> 
> to only show new messages or
> 
> l ~N | ~O
> 
> to only show new and old messages.
> 
> limit works in any mailbox (or newsgroup).

is there a possibility to combine this with a folder-hook in the .muttrc
file?



.


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Re: Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[Benjamin Smith]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 03:46:16PM +0200, Matthias LOITSCH wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:33:17PM +0100, Benjamin Smith wrote:
> > Couldn't you use the limit feature to do this.
> > 
> > Try something like
> > 
> > l ~N
> > 
> > to only show new messages or
> > 
> > l ~N | ~O
> > 
> > to only show new and old messages.
> > 
> > limit works in any mailbox (or newsgroup).
> 
> is there a possibility to combine this with a folder-hook in the .muttrc
> file?
> 

Well, you could use push to send the keys in the folder-hook.

> 
> 
> .
> 
> 
> -- 
> enyo vel cora
> 

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Re: Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[René Clerc]

* Matthias LOITSCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [30-09-2001 18:10]:

| On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:33:17PM +0100, Benjamin Smith wrote:
| > Couldn't you use the limit feature to do this.
| > 
| > Try something like
| > 
| > l ~N
| > 
| > to only show new messages or
| > 
| > l ~N | ~O
| > 
| > to only show new and old messages.
| > 
| > limit works in any mailbox (or newsgroup).
| 
| is there a possibility to combine this with a folder-hook in the .muttrc
| file?

You could put the following in your .muttrc:

folder-hook   "push \"l~N\n\""

and probably extend it to show old messages to (i have mark_old
unset).

The only problem is, that when there are no new messages, this pattern
fails to find matching messages, and subsequently all messages are
shown.

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Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars

[Derek D. Martin]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 12:18:49AM -0400, Mat?j Cepl wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:54:53 -0400, Nelson D. Guerrero wrote:
> > Did you try building mutt with --enable-locales-fix
> > It has always worked for me.
> 
> Well, I have downloaded mutt-1.3.22.1 and VVV patches (together
> with his .spec file; all from http://mutt.org.ua/download) to my
> RedHat 7.0, compiled via rpm -ba and resulting mutt works with
> accented characters just fine (no surprise, VVV is from Ukraine).

After getting the accent characters working myself (by making sure my
LC_CTYPE and/or LANG vars are set properly), I received this message,
which contains numerous characters (particularly in the sender's name
and signature) that are still displayed as '?'  characters.  I'm
assuming that's because it contains characters that can not be
represented by my character set?  Or is that something that the VVV
patches do?


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Re: Filtering imap mail with a macro

[Bruno Postle]

Thanks to Ulf Erikson, I've got a macro that doesn't perform quite as
many unnecessary saves as before. It's still a nasty hack though :-)

Here's a config that assumes: incoming mail arrives in the imap INBOX
(which remains the default spool for unsorted mail), plus there are two
mailing lists that need to be sorted to pre-existing folders +mutt-users
and +mutt-dev respectively:

# set folder=imap://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX
# set mbox=+mbox
# set record=+mbox
# set postponed=+postponed
# set spoolfile=imap://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/INBOX
# 
# mailboxes ! +mutt-users +mutt-dev
#
# fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +mutt-users
# fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' +mutt-dev
# fcc-save-hook '~A' !
#
# macro index  \
# '!'\
# '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]'\
# \
# '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]'\
# \
# '!' \
# 'Filter mail'

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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[David T-G]

Matthias --

...and then Matthias LOITSCH said...
% On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:29:20AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > Matthias --
% > % 
% > % so i looked in the header of those emails, and found that the emails
% > % which aren't recognized as an reply don't have the In-Reply-To and
% > % the References field. Ok, there is nothing to do.
% > 
% > Well, you could use Cedric's edit_threads patch and link them into the
% > threads wherever you wish, for one.
% > 
% where can i find that patch?

My copy is at

  http://mutt.justpickone.org/mutt-build-cocktail

and Cedric has, I believe, posted his web site here before, so you could
find it in the archives (for that matter, the latest patch should
probably be there, too).


% > 
...
% > message.  Same goes for I-R-T: headers; if they don't point to something
% > that mutt has, then they're pretty useless.
% yeah... sorry you're right. the message was not the direct reply of
% mine... so the References: field was not the same as my Message-ID ...
% that is not *really* mutts fault.. ;)

I find your sig particularly appropriate in this light :-)


% 
% 
% .
% 
% 
% -- 
% Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply.


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message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[Derek D. Martin]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:14:40AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> % mutt takes the "N" away when i just browse down my mail
> % in the pager, but the text appears only for 1 second. i 
> % just wanted to jump over it and read it later, but it 
> 

Similarly, I use mutt with IMAP, and when I switch to a different mail
folder from one that has new mail in it, and then switch back, the new
mail is no longer marked as new mail, but marked with a status of 'O'
instead.  This drives me crazy, because I get so much mail in so many
mailboxes that the only way I can keep track of which folders have
unread messages is to have the folders show up as having new mail.
Occasionally (but infrequently), I miss critical e-mail because of
this.

Is there a way to make mutt never use the 'O' status, instead keeping
a status of 'N' on all mail which has not yet been read?  Other
mailers, such as netscape for example, behave in this way; i.e. there
is no differentiation between new mail and old unread mail.

Note that flagging the message as New does not help at all, because
again, as soon as you change folders to a different folder, mutt will
"see" the message with the 'O' status.

By way of further explanation:

The order in which you define your mailboxes in .muttrc (or sourced
files, of course) is the order mutt will prompt for those mailboxes
(assuming they have new mail in them).  I set up my mailboxes in the
order they are most critical.  So for example, let's say I have the
following mail boxes defined:

  critical
  daily
  logs
  fun
  junk

[FWIW, these are nothing like my actual mail folders, and I have about
5 times as many.]  If I'm reading mail in logs, but I receive e-mail
in critical, then when I hit the 'c' key to change mail folders, mutt
will ask me if I want to change to critical.  I do, and I read the
critical mail that showed up there.  In the mean time, I get new
messages in other mail boxes, so each time I hit the 'c' key to change
folders, I end up in one of those mailboxes (since the next highest
priority mailbox with new mail will be the one I'm prompted to enter).
I won't be taken back into the logs folder until I receive mail in
that folder, and in all likelihood I will have forgotten to read some
important log message that was left in there since the last time I was
in the folder.

Now, if one of those messages in the logs folder contained information
to which I must react in a time-critical manner... well, I think you
see the problem.

Can this be changed?

Thanks

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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[Daniel Eisenbud]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:07:44PM +0200, Matthias LOITSCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:29:20AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> > Are you sure that mutt doesn't recognize it?  If the References: field
> > contains only Message-IDs from messages not in your mailbox, then mutt
> > will have nothing to which to refer and thus be unable to thread that
> > message.  Same goes for I-R-T: headers; if they don't point to something
> > that mutt has, then they're pretty useless.
> yeah... sorry you're right. the message was not the direct reply of
> mine... so the References: field was not the same as my Message-ID ...
> that is not *really* mutts fault.. ;)

There's a significant improvement that could be made on this situation:
sometimes, there's a message with References: that go back all the way
to a message thta you have, and another message that refers to some
other reference on that list of references between two existing
messages.  I know how to fix this, but it will take some work (and will
require not getting distracted by the desire to ream out all the other
filth that has accrued in thread.c over my long absence.)  However, I
have some time now to work on this, and plan to do so soon (though I'll
be moving in the next week, so that will dilute my attention a bit.)

-Daniel

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undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed
hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms."
--Henry David Thoreau, "Walking"

Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[Will Yardley]

Derek D. Martin wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to make mutt never use the 'O' status, instead keeping
> a status of 'N' on all mail which has not yet been read?  Other
> mailers, such as netscape for example, behave in this way; i.e. there
> is no differentiation between new mail and old unread mail.

unset mark_old

i'd assume this would work with imap as well.

w

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(fwd) GPG signatures and broken clients

[Viktor Rosenfeld]

Hello folks,

I started with mutt a week ago and I am more than happy with it.

However, my sister -- who has to use Outlook as her e-mail client --
pointed out to me, that gpg-signed mails won't show up properly in
Outlook.  Instead, there are too attachments, the plain-text message and
the signature.  So she ends up reading my mail with a text editor.

I figure that this is a known problem with mutt.  I noticed, that there
is a "gpg --clearsign" hack with a macro, which I could automatically
invoke with a send-hook, but I wondered if there was a cleaner solution.

TIA,
Viktor
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Re: (fwd) GPG signatures and broken clients

[Justin R. Miller]

Thus spake Viktor Rosenfeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> However, my sister -- who has to use Outlook as her e-mail client --
> pointed out to me, that gpg-signed mails won't show up properly in
> Outlook.  Instead, there are too attachments, the plain-text message
> and the signature.  So she ends up reading my mail with a text editor.

This has been discussed at length over the past couple weeks, apparently
because of some things that I said in my Mutt/GnuPG document ;-)  You
may want to browse the archives and catch up.  

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Anyone know anything about inews?

[Matěj Cepl]

On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:43:18 -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> Hey folks.  I am having a slight problem with inews.  I installed inn
> from the ports, so I could post news with a patched version of Mutt on
> FreeBSD.  When I try to post, I get a Child exited with error 127.
> Mutt calls with "/usr/local/news/bin/inews -hS"
> I am not running innd.

I had a similar problem, but when I used /etc/news/inn.conf from
my binary RedHat package of inn (just that file, I use leafnode
otherwise; and it may be different on FreeBSD), changed couple of
lines -- organization, server, and domain -- and it works. I have
not been able to work with inn.conf created according to
inn.conf(5) manpage (it told me always, that mta is not set, even
when it was).

If you wish, I can send you my inn.conf.

Have a nice day

Matej Cepl

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Re: Anyone know anything about inews?

[Louis LeBlanc]

On 09/30/01 06:35 PM, Mat?j Cepl sat at the `puter and typed:
> On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 00:43:18 -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> > Hey folks.  I am having a slight problem with inews.  I installed inn
> > from the ports, so I could post news with a patched version of Mutt on
> > FreeBSD.  When I try to post, I get a Child exited with error 127.
> > Mutt calls with "/usr/local/news/bin/inews -hS"
> > I am not running innd.
> 
> I had a similar problem, but when I used /etc/news/inn.conf from
> my binary RedHat package of inn (just that file, I use leafnode
> otherwise; and it may be different on FreeBSD), changed couple of
> lines -- organization, server, and domain -- and it works. I have
> not been able to work with inn.conf created according to
> inn.conf(5) manpage (it told me always, that mta is not set, even
> when it was).
> 
> If you wish, I can send you my inn.conf.
> 
>   Have a nice day
> 
>   Matej Cepl

You know, I had this same problem a while back, but couldn't find the
message where I detailed the solution - and I knew it was a simple
thing.  Couldn't dig it out of my brain either.

Finally I found the catch - the temp directory specified in inn.conf
has to be world writeable.  All temp directories should be, right?

My solution was the same as on the other machine - change the temp
path to /tmp

Problem solved.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Lou
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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[David T-G]

Daniel --

...and then Daniel Eisenbud said...
% On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 02:07:44PM +0200, Matthias LOITSCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
% > On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:29:20AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > > Are you sure that mutt doesn't recognize it?  If the References: field
...
% > > that mutt has, then they're pretty useless.
% > yeah... sorry you're right. the message was not the direct reply of
% > mine... so the References: field was not the same as my Message-ID ...
% > that is not *really* mutts fault.. ;)
% 
% There's a significant improvement that could be made on this situation:
...
% messages.  I know how to fix this, but it will take some work (and will

Have you seen Cedric Duval's edit_threads patch?  It seems that it might
be related to some of this sort of thing.


% require not getting distracted by the desire to ream out all the other
% filth that has accrued in thread.c over my long absence.)  However, I

Welcome back, too!


% have some time now to work on this, and plan to do so soon (though I'll
% be moving in the next week, so that will dilute my attention a bit.)
% 
% -Daniel


:-D
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Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[David T-G]

Derek --

...and then Derek D. Martin said...
% On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:14:40AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > % mutt takes the "N" away when i just browse down my mail
% > % in the pager, but the text appears only for 1 second. i 
% > % just wanted to jump over it and read it later, but it 
% > 
% 
% Similarly, I use mutt with IMAP, and when I switch to a different mail
% folder from one that has new mail in it, and then switch back, the new
% mail is no longer marked as new mail, but marked with a status of 'O'

I think that Brendan answered my question on this long ago, but it's my
understanding that the IMAP server decides whether to mark the message
'O'ld or not and that mutt has nothing to do with it and can't fix it
like we'd like -- and that the spec is for the server to change it thus,
so either I misremembered the performance on my box or the SysAdmin
upgraded the IMAP server to one (or a version of the same) that no longer
failed to implement that standard.


...
% Is there a way to make mutt never use the 'O' status, instead keeping
% a status of 'N' on all mail which has not yet been read?  Other

Thus, I hate to say that I think the answer is "no", and I'd sure love to
see it otherwise.


% mailers, such as netscape for example, behave in this way; i.e. there
% is no differentiation between new mail and old unread mail.

Even with IMAP?  Hmmm...


HTH & HAND

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Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[Daniel Eisenbud]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:37:52PM -0400, David T-G 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have you seen Cedric Duval's edit_threads patch?  It seems that it might
> be related to some of this sort of thing.

I just looked at it.  Cool!  I mused at least once that this feature
would be nice, but I never did anything about it.  It complements the
improvements I want to add nicely.

> Welcome back, too!

Thanks!

-Daniel

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undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed
hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms."
--Henry David Thoreau, "Walking"

Re: 'References' and 'In-Reply-To'

[David T-G]

Daniel --

...and then Daniel Eisenbud said...
% On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:37:52PM -0400, David T-G 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
% > Have you seen Cedric Duval's edit_threads patch?  It seems that it might
% > be related to some of this sort of thing.
% 
% I just looked at it.  Cool!  I mused at least once that this feature
% would be nice, but I never did anything about it.  It complements the
% improvements I want to add nicely.

Good deal.  Hey, maybe *you* can get it into the main tree so that it
doesn't have to live the shadowed life of a patch ;-)


% 
% > Welcome back, too!
% 
% Thanks!
% 
% -Daniel
% 
% -- 
% Daniel E. Eisenbud
% [EMAIL PROTECTED]
% 
% "We should go forth on the shortest walk perchance, in the spirit of
% undying adventure, never to return,--prepared to send back our embalmed
% hearts only as relics to our desolate kingdoms."
%   --Henry David Thoreau, "Walking"


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Re: Encrypt and mailing lists

[Phil Gregory]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2001 at 09:12:54PM +0200, Karlheinz Eckmeier wrote:
> I'd like to encrypt messages to a special mailing list which a small
> group of people is using to exchange informations. I have the keys of
> all the people on the list but mutt allows me to select only ONE key 
> from the list of available keys before sending off the message.

If you can set up the mailing list yourself, you can use Shibboleth.


(Note that I've never used it, but it looks quite cool.)

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Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[Derek D. Martin]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:41:33PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> Derek --
> 
> I think that Brendan answered my question on this long ago, but it's my
> understanding that the IMAP server decides whether to mark the message
> 'O'ld or not and that mutt has nothing to do with it and can't fix it
> like we'd like -- and that the spec is for the server to change it thus,
> so either I misremembered the performance on my box or the SysAdmin
> upgraded the IMAP server to one (or a version of the same) that no longer
> failed to implement that standard.

That doesn't seem to be the case -- I unset mark_old and it does
indeed not mark the messages old.  

This does not fix my problem though, because mutt for some reason
doesn't realize that the folder still has new mail in it, unless I
actually exit mutt and restart it.

Oh well.


> % mailers, such as netscape for example, behave in this way; i.e. there
> % is no differentiation between new mail and old unread mail.
> 
> Even with IMAP?  Hmmm...

Definitely.



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Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[David T-G]

Derek --

...and then Derek D. Martin said...
% On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:41:33PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% > 
% > I think that Brendan answered my question on this long ago, but it's my
% > understanding that the IMAP server decides whether to mark the message
% > 'O'ld or not and that mutt has nothing to do with it and can't fix it
% > like we'd like -- and that the spec is for the server to change it thus,
% > so either I misremembered the performance on my box or the SysAdmin
% > upgraded the IMAP server to one (or a version of the same) that no longer
% > failed to implement that standard.
% 
% That doesn't seem to be the case -- I unset mark_old and it does
% indeed not mark the messages old.  

Hey, cool.  That may not help you, but it's enormously helpful for me :-)

What IMAP server are you using?  I wonder if, in this respect, they are
different.


% 
% This does not fix my problem though, because mutt for some reason
% doesn't realize that the folder still has new mail in it, unless I
% actually exit mutt and restart it.

Oh, now that's a new wrinkle.  Hmmm...  What if you change to a local
folder (thus breaking your IMAP connection, I should think) and then
back?


% 
% Oh well.

Best of luck :-)


% 
% 
% > % mailers, such as netscape for example, behave in this way; i.e. there
% > % is no differentiation between new mail and old unread mail.
% > 
% > Even with IMAP?  Hmmm...
% 
% Definitely.

So I see.  Now to go back and try IMAP for my purposes...


% 
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% ---
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Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

[Aaron Schrab]

At 23:05 -0400 30 Sep 2001, "Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:41:33PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
> > I think that Brendan answered my question on this long ago, but it's my
> > understanding that the IMAP server decides whether to mark the message
> > 'O'ld or not and that mutt has nothing to do with it and can't fix it

> That doesn't seem to be the case -- I unset mark_old and it does
> indeed not mark the messages old.  

As I understand it (I've never used mutt with IMAP, but I have worked
with the code for $mark_old), this isn't exactly true.  The messages
will still be marked as old, but when $mark_old is unset mutt will
totally ignore that and consider old messages as new.  If you set
$mark_old before entering an IMAP folder any messages that had
previously been seen will still show up as old.

Note the variable must be set before entering the folder, since with the
standard mutt code the flag is ignored as messages are parsed.  I
submitted a patch to change this (along with splitting the two meanings
of $mark_old) awhile ago, but it hasn't been accepted.

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Hiding read messages in a newsgroup?

[Matěj Cepl]

Maybe, that I am asking too much, but my experience with mutt is
that everything is possible -- one just has to know, what to put
in .muttrc. So,

would it be possible to hide read messages in a newsgroups (using
VVV patch for nntp on mutt 1.3.22.1i and listerver is local
leafnode)? I mean, that it would be much better if there would be
only unread messages in opened newsgroup.

Sorry for my English, it's getting to late on me :-)

Thanks for answer

Matej Cepl

Re: Hiding read messages in a newsgroup

[Matěj Cepl]

On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 18:23:40PM +0200, Rene Clerc wrote:
> You could put the following in your .muttrc:
> folder-hook   "push \"l~N\n\""
> and probably extend it to show old messages to (i have mark_old
> unset).

Yes!!!

folder-hook ^nntp "push ' ~N'"
folder-hook . "push ' '"

seem to make a trick. Thanks a lot. I am now really persuaded
that mutt is able to do everything (except for that buttered
bread, I know)! And help on this list is really terrific. Thanks
again.

> The only problem is, that when there are no new messages, this pattern
> fails to find matching messages, and subsequently all messages are
> shown.

Yes, it does, but it is really so much crucial, because then I
know immediately, that there is not much to read anyway and I can
go to the next group.

Thanks a lot again

Matej Cepl

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strange 1.3.22 to 1.3.22.1 compile problem

[Rino Mardo]

hi.  i'm trying to apply the diff file for 1.3.22 to 1.3.22.1 and i find
it strange how it works.

first, i have to run "./configure" before i can apply the patch.

second, after applying the patch i have to somehow create a file name
"README.UPGRADE" as the compilation is looking for that file.  without
it the compile will fail.

third, after step two i keep getting this error messages in the "po/"
directory:

PATH=../src:$PATH : --default-domain=mutt --directory=.. \
  --directory=.. --add-comments --keyword=_ --keyword=N_ \
  --files-from=./POTFILES.in \
&& test ! -f mutt.po \
   || ( rm -f ./mutt.pot \
  && mv mutt.po ./mutt.pot )
  file=./`echo uk | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
&& rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH  -o $file uk.po
/bin/sh: -o: command not found
make[2]: *** [uk.gmo] Error 127
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/root/backup/mail/mutt/mutt-1.3.22/po'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/root/backup/mail/mutt/mutt-1.3.22'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

although this missing files are present before i run make.

i wouldn't normally have problems compiling if i don't apply the patch.
i hate to download the whole mutt-1.3.22 tarball again as i'm on a slow
dial-up line.  is there anything i can fix to make the patch compile?
 
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to accomplish complex actions."   --Doug Gwyn  (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards)

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