Voice Over Getting Started

[Jesus Garcia]

Good morning list members I am having a very strange issue with my Mac Pro
when I open the voice over getting started help section the machine seems to
lock up. Anyone else experienced this problem?

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RE: Voice Over Getting Started

[Jesus Garcia]

Yes I am running the latest update, glad to know this is not just my issue.
I wish to refer to the getting started tutorial every now and then to remind
myself of a way to do something. Hope they fix this in the next release.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:38
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Subject: Re: Voice Over Getting Started

Yes, I have incounted this with Lion. If you are running that OS, what
update do you have? I have 7.4 which is the latest and I must confess, that
I haven't tried it with this update to see if it has fixed it. Purely
because I don't need to look at the user guide as I am now quite confident
with VO and the Mac system. 

Know this doesn't resolve your issue but at least its not just me either.
LOL 

Daniel   
On 16 May 2012, at 11:33, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Good morning list members I am having a very strange issue with my Mac Pro
when I open the voice over getting started help section the machine seems to
lock up. Anyone else experienced this problem?
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RE: Voice Over Getting Started

[Jesus Garcia]

Just a quick question which voice are you using? I am using Alex wonder if
that may make a difference? Also, when I reboot the machine it will often go
directly to the getting started guide and behave appropriately without any
issue.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 18:54
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Subject: Re: Voice Over Getting Started

That's odd. It hasn't locked up over here. Running 10.7.4.
Matt
Sent from my mac
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msn: matt...@live.com
skype: blindman3221

On 2012-05-16, at 6:52 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Yes I am running the latest update, glad to know this is not just my
issue.
> I wish to refer to the getting started tutorial every now and then to 
> remind myself of a way to do something. Hope they fix this in the next
release.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:38
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Voice Over Getting Started
> 
> Yes, I have incounted this with Lion. If you are running that OS, what 
> update do you have? I have 7.4 which is the latest and I must confess, 
> that I haven't tried it with this update to see if it has fixed it. 
> Purely because I don't need to look at the user guide as I am now 
> quite confident with VO and the Mac system.
> 
> Know this doesn't resolve your issue but at least its not just me either.
> LOL
> 
> Daniel   
> On 16 May 2012, at 11:33, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> 
>> Good morning list members I am having a very strange issue with my 
>> Mac Pro
> when I open the voice over getting started help section the machine 
> seems to lock up. Anyone else experienced this problem?
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RE: Tutorials or resources for learning voice over on the Mac?

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening you can also try the blindtech website the podcasts done by Mike
Arigo were instrumental in my switching to the mac and to the iPhone he does
a great job. 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Worstman
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:38
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Tutorials or resources for learning voice over on the Mac?

 

Hi, I would like to know where I can find current tutorials or resources on
how to use voice over on a Mac?

I am particularly  wanting to know the steps for downloading and installing
programs like RS games, and  Humanware Companion 

Thank you

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Time Shortcut Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Good morning list members this is probably a silly question considering I
have been playing with my mac for about a month, but can someone tell me if
there is a time checking shortcut key like insert  function key 12 for Jaws
or insert T for window eyes?

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RE: Time Shortcut Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Great thank you 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 09:59
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Subject: Re: Time Shortcut Key

Right Option T.
On May 26, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Good morning list members this is probably a silly question 
> considering I have been playing with my mac for about a month, but can 
> someone tell me if there is a time checking shortcut key like insert  
> function key 12 for Jaws or insert T for window eyes?
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RE: Time Shortcut Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Great thank you very much.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:00
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Hi there!
You might find it a bit slow unless you've got Keyboard commander on!
Also you will need to check the [vo controlled by apple scripts ] you can do
this [if you haven't already] by opening vo utility [vo+f8] and you should
be on the general heading just scroll to that check box and check it!

Then if you press command+8 you will be on the commanders select the
keyboard one and you will find options to change [if you like] and a table
of preset commands like right option+M for mail and S for safari!
And of course you can make your own!

hth Colin

On 26 May 2012, at 15:17, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Great thank you
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler
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> Subject: Re: Time Shortcut Key
> 
> Right Option T.
> On May 26, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> 
>> Good morning list members this is probably a silly question 
>> considering I have been playing with my mac for about a month, but 
>> can someone tell me if there is a time checking shortcut key like 
>> insert function key 12 for Jaws or insert T for window eyes?
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RE: Time Shortcut Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you, I have the system voice announcing the time every half hour, and
a couple of others have responded with the shortcut key thanks to all. 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniela Rubio
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 11:21
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Subject: Re: Time Shortcut Key

 

Sure! Firs you have to turn on the keyboard commands with Vo+shift+K. From
then on, just press wright obtion+t and the system voice will speak the date
and time.

Cheers!

 

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El 26/05/2012, a las 15:40, Jesus Garcia escribió:





Good morning list members this is probably a silly question considering I
have been playing with my mac for about a month, but can someone tell me if
there is a time checking shortcut key like insert  function key 12 for Jaws
or insert T for window eyes?

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RE: automatically importing audible books iTunes possible?

[Jesus Garcia]

And if this answer can go to the list I too would appreciated.

Jesus Garcia

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 17:46
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: automatically importing audible books iTunes possible?

 

Hi all,

 

When I I started downloading audiobooks to the mac they used to
automatically download after purchasing and then I am pretty sure they would
automatically start playing in iTunes. I disabled that at the time but have
absolutely no idea how to access this kind of preferences. Any help is as
allays very appreciated.

 

Best,

 

Ioana 


Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online
stores. 

 

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Checking Mountain Lion Update Capability?

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening list members I know there is a way to check if my machine is capable
of updating to Mountain Lion when it is released. I know this is in the
about this Mac menu, but I cannot seem to find it. I am fairly certain my
mac pro will run Mountain lion, but I would like to be certain.

thanks for the help.

Jesus Garcia

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RE: Downloading bard books with the mac

[Jesus Garcia]

thank you for this explanation, I have done this before following the
instructions from Mike Arrigo's pod cast, but this puts it out in a written
form. One question to all and yes this is do simply too lazy behavior I do
not remember how to book mark a website on safari can someone please remind
me? 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 10:01
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downloading bard books with the mac

 

Okay.  I hate it when people make a simple process sound so blastedly
complicated.  Mike's correct though, and, it was he who taught me how to do
this.

 

1.  Make sure you have your browser set to open safe files.  this I believe,
you have already done.

 

2.  Click the link for downloading the book you wish.

 

3.  from inside the tool bar, at the very right end, is the download button.
You want to press this.

 

4.  Now, you will see a download list in the right side of this window.
Interact with this list.

 

5.  Now, you can see the book being downloaded and, if you interact with it,
you will be able to monitor its progress.

 

6.  When done, the zip file will open automatically, and, the zip version
will be relegated to the trash.

 

7.  The book is now ready to be transferred over to what ever device you
wish to read it on.

 

8.  Assuming, however, that you've set Safari to not open safe files, (this
is my own choice.), you will need then to navigate to the zip folder and
press command+o on it.  this will unzip the folder.  Now, in this case, you
will notice the zipped and unzipped copies.  Put the zipped version in the
trash, if you wish.

 

HTH.

 

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!

 

Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!

 

Skype name:

barefootedray

 

On Jul 1, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:





Hi Mike,

all i see in the Toolbar is the downloads button, nowhere to monitor
progress. And if you wouldn't mind, please describe how unzipping them  is
possible to get the files I need in order to play these books?
Thanks again.
Rachel
On Jul 1, 2012, at 6:25 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:




You can monitor the download progress in the tool bar. I download bard books
all the time, usually when you unzip them, a folder is created that contains
all of the files, copy that to your player, works great.

On Jun 30, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Rachel Feinberg wrote:

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I
was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is
there some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when
it has finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way
to extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on
the mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder
with a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual
machine to get the  book downloaded  and extracted as their was progress
indicator's given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder
contents then put it onto a supported device.

Help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Rachel 

 

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RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?

[Jesus Garcia]

So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would also
like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. Perhaps as
a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but I find it easier
to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows screen readers then with
voice over. Again this may be my missing something major. And yes the
dictionary would be nice my name especially I would like to hear it with its
Spanish pronunciation again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able
to correct.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
squashed in Mountain Lion?

Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I can't
remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them.
I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.

The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the pathetic
slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to see that
rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random performance bugs that
happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off then back on
again.  So overall performance could do with being improved.

I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching
between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful.  I
would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow or
up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL  elements
are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more tables and
headings than VO,  especially in the buggy rotor.

I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I
believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to
Apple's website).  

I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to
iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac.
There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?

Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where the
pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using those voices as
it became too annoying.

I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary.  For example
if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and d, you
get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third?  So I think the ability
to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO should grow up
and become a tad more intelligent.  I would like more control over how VO
reads out numbers too.

Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an
HTML area, as something else?  For example when using adium the chat window
is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation window would
be more meaningful.

Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes
store.  The page takes a while to render.  Well actually visually it does
not, but VO seems to think it does.  Actually come to mention it when VO
says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and
perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy.

I spotted another bug today too.  When ordering a smart case for my iPad, VO
was unable to read out the colour options.  When trying to select a colour,
VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 colours.  The work
around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the screen and
read out the description to see if the default green had changed.  Or look
in the basket and hope to god you have not selected pink.  I eventually
performed this task via the Apple Store app on my iPhone which performed
perfectly.

Chris 
On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote:

> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would
like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. 
> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many
enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like
fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. 
> I'll go 1st. 
> For me its safari. two things for me. 
> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover
doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility.

> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when
the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover Busy!"
Not! 
> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 
> 
> So what are yours? 
> 
> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to see
what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! 
> 
> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! LOL 
> 
> Daniel   
> 
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RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?

[Jesus Garcia]

thank you very much, as I said new user this is good very good. Never saw
that in the documentation or the tutorials. I hope someone soon does a high
end tutorial from beginning to end on voice over with the common apps such
as safari, the email and text editor. I certainly would be prepared to pay
for something along those lines.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:59
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
squashed in Mountain Lion?

Hi,

pressing VO command H brings you to the next heading.  Adding shift to that
goes to the previous heading.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would 
> also like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. 
> Perhaps as a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but 
> I find it easier to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows 
> screen readers then with voice over. Again this may be my missing 
> something major. And yes the dictionary would be nice my name 
> especially I would like to hear it with its Spanish pronunciation 
> again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able to correct.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be 
> fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
> 
> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I 
> can't remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without
them.
> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.
> 
> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the 
> pathetic slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to 
> see that rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random 
> performance bugs that happen now and then which require me to switch 
> voice over off then back on again.  So overall performance could do with
being improved.
> 
> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching 
> between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful.  
> I would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down 
> arrow or up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many 
> HMTL  elements are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to 
> find more tables and headings than VO,  especially in the buggy rotor.
> 
> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, 
> but I believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release 
> (according to Apple's website).
> 
> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update 
> to iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive software on the
Mac.
> There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?
> 
> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices 
> where the pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using 
> those voices as it became too annoying.
> 
> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary.  For 
> example if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r 
> and d, you get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third?  So I 
> think the ability to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or 
> maybe VO should grow up and become a tad more intelligent.  I would 
> like more control over how VO reads out numbers too.
> 
> Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls 
> an HTML area, as something else?  For example when using adium the 
> chat window is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or 
> conversation window would be more meaningful.
> 
> Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the 
> iTunes store.  The page takes a while to render.  Well actually 
> visually it does not, but VO seems to think it does.  Actually come to 
> mention it when VO says something is busy, a sighted person can still 
> move the mouse and perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer
which is busy.
> 
> I spotted another bug today too.  When ordering a smart case for my 
> iPad, VO was unable to read out the colour options.  When trying to 
> select a colour, VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 
> colours.  The work around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the 
>

RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?

[Jesus Garcia]

Man this is a great list with great folks. Cool will be doing that.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 19:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
squashed in Mountain Lion?

Hi there!
I do not know if this is something you might find useful!
But open VO+H+H will bring up vo commands and in the first option general
there is add pronunciation in which you can put in the first field the word
you want to change then in the second field write it so it sounds the way
you wish it to sound!
And if that is to your satisfaction then you can set other options after the
second field!
As a example I got mine to say Boy zone in stead of boys1!
And mine does say third when I put 3rd I changed my numbers from digits to
words and now 1000 says one thousand!

hth Colin

On 3 Jul 2012, at 00:02, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> thank you very much, as I said new user this is good very good. Never 
> saw that in the documentation or the tutorials. I hope someone soon 
> does a high end tutorial from beginning to end on voice over with the 
> common apps such as safari, the email and text editor. I certainly 
> would be prepared to pay for something along those lines.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:59
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be 
> fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> pressing VO command H brings you to the next heading.  Adding shift to 
> that goes to the previous heading.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would 
>> also like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages.
>> Perhaps as a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but 
>> I find it easier to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows 
>> screen readers then with voice over. Again this may be my missing 
>> something major. And yes the dictionary would be nice my name 
>> especially I would like to hear it with its Spanish pronunciation 
>> again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able to correct.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
>> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be 
>> fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
>> 
>> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements.  I 
>> can't remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live 
>> without
> them.
>> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements.
>> 
>> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by  the 
>> pathetic slow buffering system voice over uses.  So I would like to 
>> see that rewritten from the ground up.  There are a few random 
>> performance bugs that happen now and then which require me to switch 
>> voice over off then back on again.  So overall performance could do 
>> with
> being improved.
>> 
>> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when 
>> switching between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly
helpful.
>> I would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down 
>> arrow or up key.  VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how 
>> many HMTL  elements are on a web page, some windows screen readers 
>> seem to find more tables and headings than VO,  especially in the buggy
rotor.
>> 
>> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, 
>> but I believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release 
>> (according to Apple's website).
>> 
>> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge 
>> update to iWork.  There just is not enough accessible productive 
>> software on the
> Mac.
>> There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely?
>> 
>> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices 
>> where the pitch used to shift up and down randomly.  I stopped using 
>> those voices as it became too annoying.
>> 
>> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dict

RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?

[Jesus Garcia]

Same here with regards to male voices rather than female, though I have no
major issues with Samantha. Can someone post how to download and install the
realspeak voices for the mac?

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 08:26
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
squashed in Mountain Lion?

Interesting, because I'm the opposite. I would rather use eloquence and I
would rather use male voices than female. I guess it all comes down to
personal taste in the end. 

Daniel
On 3 Jul 2012, at 14:47, Missy Hoppe wrote:

> While I agree 100 percent that Eloquence is the only speech that is 
> efficient enough to actually get things done with, I've never been 
> particularly fond of it. Not sure that makes sense given that I've 
> used Glen more or less exclusively for the past
> 12 years or so, but on the whole, I think Eloquence is seriously 
> over-rated. True, it's the only thing I use on the PC side, but that's 
> out of necessity, not because I find it pleasant or anything. I don't 
> use the RealSpeak voices on the mac either, though. I even bought the 
> acapella voices, but still find myself only using Alex as a general 
> rule. So, while I can see both sides of the coin on the eloquence 
> thing, it's nothing I'd get all excited about if Apple ever incorporated
it. In most cases, Alex is responsive enough for my needs on the mac. I'd
love to see a female equivelent of Alex, though. Alice, perhaps? It's just
that when it comes to those higher quality voices, I find the female ones
slightly easier to understand in most cases.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:39 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed
or squashed in Mountain Lion?
> 
> eloquence 100% is for me. If I had this, then I wouldn't be using 
> windows anymore there's something about the voice that I can listen to 
> it and I don't get tired of it. I have a hearing impairment and find 
> it is more clear understandable in words than these silly nuance 
> voices. I don't want that to be offending to anyone who uses the nuance
real speak voices but for me, I just don't understand them clearly, to slow
no matter how much I speed them up I can't understand them when they are
really fast anyway and lastly too slow even when I can follow them.
> Ohand caps lock gets my vote too.
> If the day comes where Apple have eloquence added to the list of VO 
> voices, will be the day where I differently upgrade my OS!
> 
> How do others feel about eloquence being added?
> You got me started on this one! LOL
> 
> Daniel
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:47, Chris Moore wrote:
> 
>> I guess that makes sense.  I suppose that is the charm of VO, it can be
used in so many different ways.
>> 
>> If I am using my iMac, then I tend to use the numeric keypad., and if 
>> I am using my iOS devices I use quick nav via a
> bluetooth keyboard, and when using my Macbook I use the track pad.
>> 
>> Caps lock gets my vote too then if anyone at Apple is listening.
>> 
>> HOw about built in OCR anyone? or would anyone like to see eloquence
added to the voice list too?
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:18, Garth Humphreys wrote:
>> 
>>> I prefer not to have to take my fingers off the home keys. It is not 
>>> so much with the arrow keys that I would want to use
> the caps lock key but with the other vo commands. I can't help think 
> that the caps lock key is a complete waste of prime keyboard 
> real-estate, if you know what I mean. It is much more efficient to my 
> way of thinking to just move your little finger to the caps lock key as
compared to either removing your left or right hand from it's home keys to
press the current VO modifiers.
>>> 
>>> Garth
>>> iblindtech.com
>>> 
>>> On 03/07/2012, at 8:39 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>> 
 Well with any luck Apple may head in this direction, as they appear 
 to have got the message with iOS 6 that zoom and
> voice over at the same time would be beneficial.  If it was improved 
> and there were better contrast colour schemes, I may consider using it 
> myself.  I sometimes fire up ZoomText on my work PC when using JAWS to
sometimes find that button within a web page that JAWS can't see or a dialog
window that JAWS refuses to read.
 
 So where would you see using the caps lock over using quick nav?
 
 Thanks
 
 Chris
 On 3 Jul 2012, at 10:31, Garth Humphreys wrote:
 
> There are a few bugs when zoomed to high levels, i.e., more than 
> 14X or so. If you have VO running and zoom set to
> follow the keyboard focus you will find that the command tab to switch 
> between apps becomes un

RE: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay yep I have done that already just wanted to be certain this is what
folks were talking about. Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 09:45
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or
squashed in Mountain Lion?

open VO utility VO F8. Arrow down to speech stop interacting or use the tab
key press it until you hear the pop up button with your chosen voice. Open
this with VO space bar arrow down to customise VO space again. A new dialog
box should come up. VO arrow around. Note there is an edit box so in my case
I would type English in here and arrow right again there should be a voices
table. Interact with it. then just use the VO keys in conjunction with the
up and down arrow keys. Find the voices you want and check them with VO
space. Once your done stop interacting or use the tab key to find the OK
button. It should ask if you want to go ahead and download your selected
voices and depending on how many you have chosen, it may varie in file size
so just be aware of that. if you have done it before though, then open up
the voices pop up button and they should be there. Note to remove a voice,
just do the same thing but uncheck the ones you don't want. 

hth 

Daniel   
On 4 Jul 2012, at 13:49, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Same here with regards to male voices rather than female, though I 
> have no major issues with Samantha. Can someone post how to download 
> and install the realspeak voices for the mac?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 08:26
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be 
> fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion?
> 
> Interesting, because I'm the opposite. I would rather use eloquence 
> and I would rather use male voices than female. I guess it all comes 
> down to personal taste in the end.
> 
> Daniel
> On 3 Jul 2012, at 14:47, Missy Hoppe wrote:
> 
>> While I agree 100 percent that Eloquence is the only speech that is 
>> efficient enough to actually get things done with, I've never been 
>> particularly fond of it. Not sure that makes sense given that I've 
>> used Glen more or less exclusively for the past
>> 12 years or so, but on the whole, I think Eloquence is seriously 
>> over-rated. True, it's the only thing I use on the PC side, but 
>> that's out of necessity, not because I find it pleasant or anything. 
>> I don't use the RealSpeak voices on the mac either, though. I even 
>> bought the acapella voices, but still find myself only using Alex as 
>> a general rule. So, while I can see both sides of the coin on the 
>> eloquence thing, it's nothing I'd get all excited about if Apple ever 
>> incorporated
> it. In most cases, Alex is responsive enough for my needs on the mac. 
> I'd love to see a female equivelent of Alex, though. Alice, perhaps? 
> It's just that when it comes to those higher quality voices, I find 
> the female ones slightly easier to understand in most cases.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel McGee
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 9:39 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be 
>> fixed
> or squashed in Mountain Lion?
>> 
>> eloquence 100% is for me. If I had this, then I wouldn't be using 
>> windows anymore there's something about the voice that I can listen 
>> to it and I don't get tired of it. I have a hearing impairment and 
>> find it is more clear understandable in words than these silly nuance 
>> voices. I don't want that to be offending to anyone who uses the 
>> nuance
> real speak voices but for me, I just don't understand them clearly, to 
> slow no matter how much I speed them up I can't understand them when 
> they are really fast anyway and lastly too slow even when I can follow
them.
>> Ohand caps lock gets my vote too.
>> If the day comes where Apple have eloquence added to the list of VO 
>> voices, will be the day where I differently upgrade my OS!
>> 
>> How do others feel about eloquence being added?
>> You got me started on this one! LOL
>> 
>> Daniel
>> On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:47, Chris Moore wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess that makes sense.  I suppose that is the charm of VO, it ca

Full Key Board or not?

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening list members as a new user to the mac I have a question regarding
keyboards. I have a Mac Book Pro with the laptop keyboard. In reviewing
voice over commands and interaction with the screen reader it seems to me
that a full size keyboard may be a nice option especially for a new user who
has been using windows for the past 20 years. I say this because of the num
pad and the num pad commander abilities with the full size keyboard. I am
using the touch pad on the machine since I also use an iPhone 4S, but still
wonder if a few things would not be easier with the num pad as an option.
Any thoughts from folks out there who have been mac users for a period of
time? I have been using my machine for about six months. I would like to use
it much more for web browsing then I currently am, I think that voice over
and safari have a number of advantages to the windows web browsers and
screen readers. I use both window eyes and jfw under windows and mainly fire
fox. Thanks for any recommendations.

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RE: Full Key Board or not?

[Jesus Garcia]

True that is why I hesitate I do use the quick nav on occasions. 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 19:28
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Full Key Board or not?

Hi.
I'd learn to use quicknav. You can activate this by pressing both the left
and right arrow keys at the same time.
If you've used an iPhone with a wireless keyboard before, the commands will
be very similar. There is a decent amount about quicknav in the VO help
activated with VO question mark.
If you were to go the route of purchasing a wired keyboard with numpad,
that'd be one more thing to carry around with you if you're Mac is a laptop.
JMO,
Matthew Campbell.


On 2012-07-11, at 7:22 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Evening list members as a new user to the mac I have a question 
> regarding keyboards. I have a Mac Book Pro with the laptop keyboard. 
> In reviewing voice over commands and interaction with the screen 
> reader it seems to me that a full size keyboard may be a nice option 
> especially for a new user who has been using windows for the past 20 
> years. I say this because of the num pad and the num pad commander 
> abilities with the full size keyboard. I am using the touch pad on the 
> machine since I also use an iPhone 4S, but still wonder if a few things
would not be easier with the num pad as an option.
> Any thoughts from folks out there who have been mac users for a period 
> of time? I have been using my machine for about six months. I would 
> like to use it much more for web browsing then I currently am, I think 
> that voice over and safari have a number of advantages to the windows 
> web browsers and screen readers. I use both window eyes and jfw under 
> windows and mainly fire fox. Thanks for any recommendations.
> 
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RE: Full Key Board or not?

[Jesus Garcia]

Yes the rotor certainly is very nice.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 19:51
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Full Key Board or not?

Hi.
What I like about quicknav is that you can use a rotor like that found on
the iPhone to go through headings, and links, and other stuff like that.
On 2012-07-11, at 7:30 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> True that is why I hesitate I do use the quick nav on occasions. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 19:28
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Full Key Board or not?
> 
> Hi.
> I'd learn to use quicknav. You can activate this by pressing both the 
> left and right arrow keys at the same time.
> If you've used an iPhone with a wireless keyboard before, the commands 
> will be very similar. There is a decent amount about quicknav in the 
> VO help activated with VO question mark.
> If you were to go the route of purchasing a wired keyboard with 
> numpad, that'd be one more thing to carry around with you if you're Mac is
a laptop.
> JMO,
> Matthew Campbell.
> 
> 
> On 2012-07-11, at 7:22 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> 
>> Evening list members as a new user to the mac I have a question 
>> regarding keyboards. I have a Mac Book Pro with the laptop keyboard.
>> In reviewing voice over commands and interaction with the screen 
>> reader it seems to me that a full size keyboard may be a nice option 
>> especially for a new user who has been using windows for the past 20 
>> years. I say this because of the num pad and the num pad commander 
>> abilities with the full size keyboard. I am using the touch pad on 
>> the machine since I also use an iPhone 4S, but still wonder if a few 
>> things
> would not be easier with the num pad as an option.
>> Any thoughts from folks out there who have been mac users for a 
>> period of time? I have been using my machine for about six months. I 
>> would like to use it much more for web browsing then I currently am, 
>> I think that voice over and safari have a number of advantages to the 
>> windows web browsers and screen readers. I use both window eyes and 
>> jfw under windows and mainly fire fox. Thanks for any recommendations.
>> 
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RE: Partitioning an external drive under mac os Lion with Voiceover

[Jesus Garcia]

Great thanks this is very good information to hang on to. Though as someone
said in a subsequent post it would be nice if they fix the access issue
here. Again thanks for posting the steps.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 17:04
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Partitioning an external drive under mac os Lion with Voiceover

Dear listers,

I thought I'd post my experience of partitioning an external usb drive under
mac os Lion in case somebody else needed to do this in the future.

I've bought a 1 TB external hard drive, and I wanted to partition it so that
it has two different volumes. This is how I accomplished it in Mac OS Lion.

I connected my USB drive to my mac.
1. Open Disk Utility (from the finder, shortcut key, command+shift+u), and
then start typing disk utility to get there.

2. In the table of all available disks, find the disk you wish to partition.

3. Stop interacting with the table of your disks and move to the right
through the available tabs until you've reached "partition" tab. Press
vo+space to select it.

4. Move right to hear "partition layout" popup button. Here yo you can
choose how many partitions you wish to have on your drive. In my case, I
chose two partitions.

5. Move to the right. You will encounter a field that Voiceover reports as
something like "name text field". At this stage this field will be reported
as dimmed which means that you cannot do anything with it.

6. Move to the right and yo you will hear "scroll area". This is where it
gets interesting. Remember, I chose to partition my external drive into two.

7. Interact with the scroll area. You will be able to navigate with
vo+arrow keys here, and you will hear: "untitled1 plus some info about
the value of the default size of the partition" and if you move right, you
will hear "horizontal splitter" and then, "untitled2" with the value of the
default size of the partition. At this point, you can't do anything with
these areas. However, in order to be able to name your partitions, you have
to do the following steps.

8. While still interacting with the scroll area, place your Voiceover cursor
on the first untitled area. If you have a mac that has a trackpad which by
default is enabled with Voiceover, first disabled the trackpad commander
with vo + rotor left. Voiceover will say trackpad commander off. Then bring
your ouse cursor to the Voiceover cursor with vo+command+f5. Confirm with
vo+f5 that you are on the
untitled1 field and then physically click the mouse/trackpad.

9. At this point, Disk Utility got busy for me and I had to force quit it.
To avoid this, after you had physically clicked the mouse pad, turn
Voiceover off and then on again (don't rush the process), and then stop
interacting with the scroll area and move left to the "name text field".

10. You will notice, that now Voiceover announces "name text field" as
untitled1 and it is not dimmed so that yo you can enter the name of your
volume here.

11. After you are done with this partition, interact with the scroll area
again, only this time move to the "untitled2" and perform the same actions
here as you had done with "untitled1'. Then again, as soon as you physically
click the trackpad, turn Voiceover off, and then turn it on again, and then
stop interacting with the scroll area and move to the left to the "name"
field where you can now enter the name of your second volume.

I hope this will help some people on the list who have been struggling to
partition their external drives.

With best regards

Andrew

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Question on App Store

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Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download in the
app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am trying to see
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

thanks silly not to remember that.

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Hi,

I believe you press command 4 to get to the purchases category.

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> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download 
> in the app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am 
> trying to see how much longer I have before the download finishes. 
> thanks
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

That worked by the way again thanks for the help.

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Hi,

I believe you press command 4 to get to the purchases category.

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> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download 
> in the app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am 
> trying to see how much longer I have before the download finishes. 
> thanks
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RE: Mountain Lion in one word: AMAZING!

[Jesus Garcia]

Hey that is ok I must leave for the airport within the next half hour, may
have to just leave the machine on until Friday, but oh well. It is about 55
percent done. Glad I am fortunate that I have very fast broad band. Good
luck to all.

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lol,

yes.  It will just sit there.  It needs your prompts to select where it is
installed etc.

hth

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:

> Thanks to all of you for the quick reply.  It's poking along just fine.
Unfortunately, I have to leave to go to work while download is progressing;
I assume it will just just sit there after completion? I sure wouldn't want
it to start installing while I was gone:).
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:18 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> If you want to see some progress, go to the purchase tab with command 4.
>> Use VO Command H to go to the next heading. THis should be the mountain
Lion download. You will be able to VO arrow over and see progress.
>> Good luck,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-07-25, at 10:08 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> Silly question here, but this is the first time I've ever bought an OS
or OS upgrade through the Mac app store.  I clicked the purchase button and
followed that with the Convirm purchase button.  I now see a button that is
dimmed but says "Downloading." I can't see any progress bars or dialogs;
does this mean it is actually downloading the OS for me? Just wondering.
Hope I didn't miss any critical steps.  I plan to just download it for now
and look into a full re-install instead of an over-the-top upgrade.
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Daniel Miller wrote:
>>> 
 Hello,
 
 I just installed Mountain Lion, and it's simply amazing. Here's what
I've noticed to be fixed or improved with VoiceOver.
 
 .VO now comes up speaking every time upon boot, unlike in Lion when you
had to press CMD+Tab to see if it was running or not.
 .We now have access to menu bar apps, such as Dropbox, in an 'Extras'
menu, accessed the same way you'd access the battery status, etc in Lion.
 .Notification Center is 100% accessible, as it is in iOS.
 
 As I continue to fine more tweaks/features, I'll write back.
 
 
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RE: Question on App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

Thanks to all I actually was able to finish the download before having to
leave to catch my flight. Now going to get to the installation after running
all my backups. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
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Subject: Re: Question on App Store

Actually, if you go to the dock and find Launchpad, you will have a progress
bar there (example: launchpad, 32%)for your download.

Teresa

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On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:20 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

> Quick question I forgot the command to get the status of the download 
> in the app store window. I have Mountain Lion downloading and I am 
> trying to see how much longer I have before the download finishes. 
> thanks
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Mountain Lion Installation Question

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First
I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to
click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc
from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I
use a DVD? Thanks 
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RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question

[Jesus Garcia]

Great thanks I will first make a copy then do the installation. It seems
from the comments on this list that it would be best to do a completely
clean install. 

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Subject: RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question

Hi,

You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it.
Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into ML.
Yes, you can use a 32GB drive.


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Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question

Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. First
I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting for me to
click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a installation disc
from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB thumb drive or must I
use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia

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RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question

[Jesus Garcia]

One other question and I apologize if this has been asked multiple times. I
have had a hard time keeping up with the list do to travel.
Can someone please point me to a step by step creation of the installation
disc. I am going to use the 32 GB thumb drive this is a figh end 32 GB Micro
key Flash drive.
Again thanks to all.

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Hi,

just to add, you don't even need all of the 32GB drive either.  You can
creat a 8GB partition and make that the bootable drive.

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it.
> Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts into
ML.
> Yes, you can use a 32GB drive.
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question
> 
> Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. 
> First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting 
> for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a 
> installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 GB 
> thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia
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RE: Mountain Lion Installation Question

[Jesus Garcia]

Now that beats windows to no end. Thank you very much, hope one day I can
contribute as much as I have obtained from the good folks on this list.

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Hi,

Its a piece of cake.  First, I recommend downloading Lion disk maker.  A
google search for that should get you what you need.  After that, download
mountain Lion.  When the download is complete, you will get a dialog box
asking you to press continue to proceed with the installation.  You can just
ignore this for a minute.  Command tab to your finder and open Lion disk
maker.  Just follow the prompts.  It will search your Mac for the Mountain
Lion installation app which is temporarily saved in your applications
folder.  It will then ask you what do you want to create the bootable disk
with.  just choose your thumb drive and let it do its thing.  Thats it. your
done.

hth

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On Jul 28, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> One other question and I apologize if this has been asked multiple 
> times. I have had a hard time keeping up with the list do to travel.
> Can someone please point me to a step by step creation of the 
> installation disc. I am going to use the 32 GB thumb drive this is a 
> figh end 32 GB Micro key Flash drive.
> Again thanks to all.
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mountain Lion Installation Question
> 
> Hi,
> 
> just to add, you don't even need all of the 32GB drive either.  You 
> can creat a 8GB partition and make that the bootable drive.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You need to quit the installer, and do not, I repeat, do not install it.
>> Once you do, the installer deletes itself after the system restarts 
>> into
> ML.
>> Yes, you can use a 32GB drive.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jesus Garcia
>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 9:49 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mountain Lion Installation Question
>> 
>> Okay folks a quick question regarding installation and bootable disc. 
>> First I already downloaded Mountain Lion the machine is just waiting 
>> for me to click the continue button. If I do this can I later make a 
>> installation disc from the copy I downloaded? Second can I use a 32 
>> GB thumb drive or must I use a DVD? Thanks Jesus Garcia
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RE: SSD external drive for Mac

[Jesus Garcia]

Perhaps this has already been posted, but I am using a my pass port one TB
external. I think I paid 84 dollars from the flash memory store. It runs off
the USB port on my mac book pro without any power supply. It will also work
on a windows machine I cannot say anything about the included software since
I have not used it, but thus, far I have had no issues using the lion or
mountain lion disc utility with this drive. It is fast and quiet. Also, it
will support USB 3.0 though no fire wire, or thunder bolt.

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Subject: Re: SSD external drive for Mac

Hi,

I know this isn't really an answer but, I don't think the small increase in
speed gained by an external SSd is worth the premium price. For an external
drive, I would recommend sticking with a traditional platter hard drive.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
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On Aug 5, 2012, at 4:11 AM, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:

> Guys,
> I had a very disappointing experience today. I bought a 128GB SSD drive,
only to learn that a Mac could not write to it.  It was bad enough that I
couldn't find an SSD drive with FireWire ports, but to find a drive that
could only be written to buy a Windows computer?  This was absolutely
unacceptable. Does anyone know of an SSD drive with FireWire ports that can
be used by a Mac?  
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Question Regarding VM Ware

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening list members ok I now have installed mountain lion and VM Ware
running windows 7 64 bit and window eyes. I have a few questions and prefer
not to crowd the list with these questions. If anyone on the list is a power
user of VM ware and can answer about five questions can you please contact
me off list. Email is below.

jesusga...@gmail.com

Thanks to all.

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Time Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening list members the short cut key for checking the time no longer seems
to be working in Mountain Lion does anyone know if that key changed?

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RE: Messages

[Jesus Garcia]

I assume you need to have someone in your contact list before you can send a
message. I can find the send button without any issue, what I have yet to
figure out is when typing a name in to the too edit field which mobile
device is the message going to be sent too. If the individual has more than
one mobile device.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Scott
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 16:18
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages

I know this has been answered.  Sorry.  I just watched the podcast on
Applevis about sending messages to IOS devices with the Messages Ap.  It
seemed so easy but I can't locate the edit box to write a message nor can I
find a send button.  Do I need to download something to make it work and is
there a more indepth tutorial?  Mel 

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RE: Time Key

[Jesus Garcia]

Absolutely correct sir my mistake I forgot about checking the keyboard
commander. thank you.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney Haynie
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 17:26
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Subject: Re: Time Key

Jesus,
Still works for me in ML. I have the keyboard commander set to Right Option
T to fire the Apple script for date/time.

Take care.
Rodney

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> Evening list members the short cut key for checking the time no longer 
> seems to be working in Mountain Lion does anyone know if that key changed?
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V M Ware Question

[Jesus Garcia]

Good morning folks I assume now that I have VM Ware installed running
windows 7 64 and Window eyes that I can use most of the hot key commands
within windows?

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Finder Preference?

[Jesus Garcia]

Afternoon folks can someone tell me how to get to the finder preference
within Mountain lion? I would like to place my Mac HD back on the desk top.

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RE: Finder Preference?

[Jesus Garcia]

As always thank you that worked it also gives me an understanding of how to
open other menus. Again thanks.

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Subject: RE: Finder Preference?

Command comma should do the trick. Good luck!

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Subject: Finder Preference?

Afternoon folks can someone tell me how to get to the finder preference
within Mountain lion? I would like to place my Mac HD back on the desk top.

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RE: V M Ware Question

[Jesus Garcia]

True so if I need the insert key can I connect a windows keyboard while
running windows?

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 20:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: V M Ware Question

 

Hi,

 

Remember that Mac does not have a insert key. If you require this key, then
you will have to modify the keyboard within Windows, VMWare or on the Mac to
permit this to occur. There have been many posts on this on different lists
discussing how.

 

Sean 

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Good morning folks I assume now that I have VM Ware installed running
windows 7 64 and Window eyes that I can use most of the hot key commands
within windows?

 

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RE: V M Ware Question

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you I already have windows keyboards, and have been thinking of going
out to purchase a full apple keyboard to use while I am at home. Again
thanks.

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 04:20
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: V M Ware Question

 

Yes, you can connect a keyboard with a insert key or if you are in the USA.
You can purchase the Bluetooth number pad from Apple to use as an extra
keyboard for your Mac.

 

On 18/08/2012, at 10:50 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:





True so if I need the insert key can I connect a windows keyboard while
running windows?

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 20:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: V M Ware Question

 

Hi,

 

Remember that Mac does not have a insert key. If you require this key, then
you will have to modify the keyboard within Windows, VMWare or on the Mac to
permit this to occur. There have been many posts on this on different lists
discussing how.

 

Sean 

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Good morning folks I assume now that I have VM Ware installed running
windows 7 64 and Window eyes that I can use most of the hot key commands
within windows?

 

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RE: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?

[Jesus Garcia]

Try the following see below.
1) Close Downcast 
2) Open Terminal 
3) Run this command in Terminal: defaults delete com.jamawkinaw.downcast.mac

 
That will delete your Downcast preferences. The next time you start Downcast
you should hit CMD 
+ R after it starts up to refresh all your podcasts. Since this is deleting
your preferences, you'll need 
to then re-enable iCloud settings so you get back in sync with your other
devices. 
Good luck. 



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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: January 21, 2014 18:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?

Good luck with that, as I deleted Downcast and have yet to be able to get it
to actually open since reinstalling it from the app store, have traded a ton
of emails with the developers but still have yet to be able to get Downcast
to open on my mac, it just quits as soon as launched.
On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:

> Hi,
> No, Downcast on OS X works perfect fine here. Try deleting and
reinstalling the app.
> 
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> 
>> Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac?  Just that
for the last few days, I can't use it and have to use it on the I phone.  I
wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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RE: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?

[Jesus Garcia]

I assume from what you said you wrote to the downcast folks? It took them
about three days to get back with me, and though I did not have the same
issue my downcast would also crash whenever I started it. It has been
running perfect since then, I think they are still feeling their way in to
iCloud sinc and if too many podcasts are in the sinc bad things happen. No
proof just a feeling.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: January 21, 2014 22:01
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?

Jesus,

That si the file I deleted and since then I can't even get Downcast to open.
I have even uninstalled and reinstalled it, done a system repair and still
Downcast will not open the program quits upon launch and just asks if I want
to send an error report.
On Jan 21, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Try the following see below.
> 1) Close Downcast 
> 2) Open Terminal 
> 3) Run this command in Terminal: defaults delete
com.jamawkinaw.downcast.mac
> 
> 
> That will delete your Downcast preferences. The next time you start
Downcast
> you should hit CMD 
> + R after it starts up to refresh all your podcasts. Since this is
deleting
> your preferences, you'll need 
> to then re-enable iCloud settings so you get back in sync with your other
> devices. 
> Good luck. 
> 
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: January 21, 2014 18:41
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: What's wrong with Downcast on the Mac?
> 
> Good luck with that, as I deleted Downcast and have yet to be able to get
it
> to actually open since reinstalling it from the app store, have traded a
ton
> of emails with the developers but still have yet to be able to get
Downcast
> to open on my mac, it just quits as soon as launched.
> On Jan 21, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Daniel Miller  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> No, Downcast on OS X works perfect fine here. Try deleting and
> reinstalling the app.
>> 
>> On Jan 21, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> Has anyone used Downcast in the last few days on their Mac?  Just that
> for the last few days, I can't use it and have to use it on the I phone.
I
> wonder if Downcast is down as my internet connection is fine.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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RE: A Voiceover settings questions

[Jesus Garcia]

Yes here is how to turn it off.
Go to the voice over utility, VO f 8 go down to voice over visuals the first
item in the tabs is voice over cursor, I believe the default is show voice
over cursor uncheck that and the voice over cursor should disappear.

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Subject: A Voiceover settings questions

Hi.
My wife was looking at my screen last night, and she mentioned that I have a
box tracking the cursor.  I cannot find anywhere to turn this off.  Can
someone suggest a starting place?  Thanks.


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Google chrome installation problems

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, folks I cannot seem to get past opening the initial disk image. 
First I assume that doing a search takes one to the correct download 
site, I am typing google chrome for the mac, it appears though I am 
downloading the correct file. when I click on the disk image with either 
vo space bar or command o I get google chrome image group and a close 
button maximize button and minimize button. Only once did I seem to get 
the true chrome browser when I quit then tried finding it in the apps 
folders it did not appear. What am I doing wrong?


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RE: Google chrome installation problems

[Jesus Garcia]

Yes that is what I finally stumbled on to, thanks for the help. It seems to be 
running just fine at the moment.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: March 22, 2014 00:50
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Google chrome installation problems

It's been a while since I installed Chrome as it self-updates once you 
have it. Once you open the DMG or DiskiMaGe file you should have an 
additional fake drive show up. In that fake drive will be the Chrome 
app. You copy that, go to your Applications folder, and paste. That 
copies the whole thing to your Apps folder. You can then throw the disk 
image and the fake drive in the trash. You can then run Chrome from your 
apps folder. Sounds like you might have been running Chrome from the 
disk image and never copied it to the Applications folder.

CB

On 3/21/14 2:52 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> Okay, folks I cannot seem to get past opening the initial disk image. 
> First I assume that doing a search takes one to the correct download 
> site, I am typing google chrome for the mac, it appears though I am 
> downloading the correct file. when I click on the disk image with 
> either vo space bar or command o I get google chrome image group and a 
> close button maximize button and minimize button. Only once did I seem 
> to get the true chrome browser when I quit then tried finding it in 
> the apps folders it did not appear. What am I doing wrong?
>

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Burning A disk

[Jesus Garcia]

Good morning list members, I am going crazy, I think I have done this 
previously, but nothing seems to work.
I have a set of 12 music files I downloaded from the Itune store as m4a 
format. I am trying to burn them on to a disk for playing on a standard 
cd player. I cannot figure out how to make this happen either on windows 
7 or maverick if someone could help I would appreciate the assistance. 
Thank you.


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RE: Burning A disk

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you will try I think I have the play list already set up.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
Sent: June 28, 2014 08:53
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Burning A disk

>> Hi!

>> If you make a play list of those tracks you wish to burn to CD then when
in the playlist  after the table of tracks you should find playlist action
menu button and in there is the option to burn to disc!
>> When selected a window comes up with options about the quality and stuff
and when your happy just burn to CD!
>> HTH Colin
On 28 Jun 2014, at 13:33, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Good morning list members, I am going crazy, I think I have done this
previously, but nothing seems to work.
> I have a set of 12 music files I downloaded from the iTune store as m4a
format. I am trying to burn them on to a disk for playing on a standard cd
player. I cannot figure out how to make this happen either on windows 7 or
maverick if someone could help I would appreciate the assistance. Thank you.
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Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my Braille 
Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point me to a write 
up or podcast? thank you.


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RE: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you, I was missing one step. However does anyone on the list know if with 
the latest update something happened to the terminal for screen reader mode? It 
does not seem to be activating on my machine and it was this morning prior to 
the update.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
Sent: July 10, 2015 21:03
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

Hello,

First, put your Braille Sense Plus in terminal for screen reader mode by doing 
the following:
Go to the utilities menu by pressing "u" from the main menu, and press "S" for 
"terminal for screen reader".
You'll be presented with a list of options, choose "bluetooth serial port" and 
press enter.
The unit will say "connecting..." and eventually, "terminal mode". Now, you're 
ready to go to your phone.
Go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>braille and scroll to the bottom 
of the screen where it will say "choose a braille display".
You should see "Braille Sense Plus not paired", at this point, double-tap on 
this, and in a couple seconds, you'll be presented with a text field, in which 
you can type in 4 digits for the pin code. They can be any 4 you want, and when 
you press the pair button in the right-hand corner of your screen, the message 
"pin code:" should appear on your Braille Sense's display.
Enter in the same digits you put in on your phone without any number sign, and 
in nemeth braille code. Press dot 8, (enter), and in a second or 2, your unit 
and your phone should pair successfully.
Rachel.
On 7/10/2015 7:27 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my Braille 
> Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point me to a 
> write up or podcast? thank you.
>

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RE: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Jesus Garcia]

Sorry the Braille sense plus was what I updated.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: July 10, 2015 22:25
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

Update for what? The BSP or the iPhone?

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 7/10/2015 6:29 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> Thank you, I was missing one step. However does anyone on the list know if 
> with the latest update something happened to the terminal for screen reader 
> mode? It does not seem to be activating on my machine and it was this morning 
> prior to the update.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
> Sent: July 10, 2015 21:03
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus
>
> Hello,
>
> First, put your Braille Sense Plus in terminal for screen reader mode by 
> doing the following:
> Go to the utilities menu by pressing "u" from the main menu, and press "S" 
> for "terminal for screen reader".
> You'll be presented with a list of options, choose "bluetooth serial port" 
> and press enter.
> The unit will say "connecting..." and eventually, "terminal mode". Now, 
> you're ready to go to your phone.
> Go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>braille and scroll to the 
> bottom of the screen where it will say "choose a braille display".
> You should see "Braille Sense Plus not paired", at this point, double-tap on 
> this, and in a couple seconds, you'll be presented with a text field, in 
> which you can type in 4 digits for the pin code. They can be any 4 you want, 
> and when you press the pair button in the right-hand corner of your screen, 
> the message "pin code:" should appear on your Braille Sense's display.
> Enter in the same digits you put in on your phone without any number sign, 
> and in nemeth braille code. Press dot 8, (enter), and in a second or 2, your 
> unit and your phone should pair successfully.
> Rachel.
> On 7/10/2015 7:27 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>> Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my Braille 
>> Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point me to a 
>> write up or podcast? thank you.
>>
>
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RE: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

[Jesus Garcia]

Yep it is apparently there are a number of issues with the latest Braille sense 
update. Another is to be found in the NLS download section, if you check 
automatic login the machine will hang and you must press the reset button. 
Again thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
Sent: July 11, 2015 09:43
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus

Make sure bluetooth is on, and you can do this by pressing backspace+th.

On 7/11/2015 5:03 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> Sorry the Braille sense plus was what I updated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T.
> Sent: July 10, 2015 22:25
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus
>
>  Update for what? The BSP or the iPhone?
>
>   From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
>
> On 7/10/2015 6:29 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>> Thank you, I was missing one step. However does anyone on the list know if 
>> with the latest update something happened to the terminal for screen reader 
>> mode? It does not seem to be activating on my machine and it was this 
>> morning prior to the update.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rachel Feinberg
>> Sent: July 10, 2015 21:03
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Pairing Braille Sense Plus
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> First, put your Braille Sense Plus in terminal for screen reader mode by 
>> doing the following:
>> Go to the utilities menu by pressing "u" from the main menu, and press "S" 
>> for "terminal for screen reader".
>> You'll be presented with a list of options, choose "bluetooth serial port" 
>> and press enter.
>> The unit will say "connecting..." and eventually, "terminal mode". Now, 
>> you're ready to go to your phone.
>> Go to settings>general>accessibility>voiceover>braille and scroll to the 
>> bottom of the screen where it will say "choose a braille display".
>> You should see "Braille Sense Plus not paired", at this point, double-tap on 
>> this, and in a couple seconds, you'll be presented with a text field, in 
>> which you can type in 4 digits for the pin code. They can be any 4 you want, 
>> and when you press the pair button in the right-hand corner of your screen, 
>> the message "pin code:" should appear on your Braille Sense's display.
>> Enter in the same digits you put in on your phone without any number sign, 
>> and in nemeth braille code. Press dot 8, (enter), and in a second or 2, your 
>> unit and your phone should pair successfully.
>> Rachel.
>> On 7/10/2015 7:27 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
>>> Morning list members, I seem to have forgotten how to pair my 
>>> Braille Sense plus with my iPhone 5s running 8.4 can someone point 
>>> me to a write up or podcast? thank you.
>>>
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Express or extreme

[Jesus Garcia]

Hello list members, two questions. First I wish to send music from my 
iPhone or Mac book pro to my home sound system. My home receiver is a 
2003 model, I do not wish to replace at the moment since it is a high 
end flag ship model. However it has no HDMI or later than 2003 
connections. So, the question is should I purchase the airport express 
or extreme. From reading a few articles it appears to me that the 
extreme does not support airplay? I would prefer using airplay.


Thanks for any suggestions.

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RE: Express or extreme

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you, that is what I thought, one other question do you know if the 
express has an optical connection? That is a tos link connection?

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: July 24, 2015 09:46
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

Hi,

You want the airport express.

 

you can attach it to your receiver with a standard rca type jack.

 

The airport extreme is a router.

 

We used the airport express very successfully with our old Denon and and our 
old Sony before getting our current new Denon receiver.

 

hth,

Caitlyn

 

On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

 

Hello list members, two questions. First I wish to send music from my iPhone or 
Mac book pro to my home sound system. My home receiver is a 2003 model, I do 
not wish to replace at the moment since it is a high end flag ship model. 
However it has no HDMI or later than 2003 connections. So, the question is 
should I purchase the airport express or extreme. From reading a few articles 
it appears to me that the extreme does not support airplay? I would prefer 
using airplay. 

Thanks for any suggestions.  

 

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RE: IOS 8.4 messaging question

[Jesus Garcia]

I believe you can only send recorded messages to other iPhone users if they do 
not have access to the apple network that feature will not work.

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Sent: July 24, 2015 09:54
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS 8.4 messaging question

Hi Everyone,

Sorry, this is probably a stupid question but I'm hoping someone can help me 
out.  Just got an iPhone 6 and the user manual says that I can send voice 
messages as well as text messages.  I am able to get to the voice aspect of the 
messaging if I compose a new message to someone, however, if I already have an 
existing conversation going I have not found any way to bring up the voice 
messaging feature.  VO says to double tap and hold the attach media button for 
fast options, but when I do that nothing happens.

Also, a bug report for anyone interested...I set up my medical ID in the health 
app, and ever since then anytime I do anything in the phone app VO says 
"medical ID" everytime I tap or move to anywhere in the app.

Thanks,
Randy

On 7/24/15, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> Hi!
> Try wild montana skies instead *lol*.
> /A
>> 23 juli 2015 kl. 12:52 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland
>> :
>>
>> I do really like his stuff.  I've not done much though of his stuff 
>> aside Take me Home Country Roads.
>>
>> I should try doing Leaving on a Jetplane.  Now, you got me thinking.
>> LOL!
>>
>> Chris.
>>
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>> Subject: Re: What about Logic Pro?
>>
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>>> Thanks Chris, you've been very detailed and helpful.
>>>
>>> Ok, I will consider buy it.
>>> Thanks also for your singing example, you recalled me  a bit, John 
>>> Denver. :)
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RE: Express or extreme

[Jesus Garcia]

Again thank you, you have been a lot of help. Going to order the express this 
afternoon. Take care.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: July 24, 2015 10:02
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

I’m not sure, but I don’t think so..

 

My hubby is going to check.

Cait

 

On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

 

Thank you, that is what I thought, one other question do you know if the 
express has an optical connection? That is a tos link connection?

 

From:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: July 24, 2015 09:46
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

Hi,

You want the airport express.

 

you can attach it to your receiver with a standard rca type jack.

 

The airport extreme is a router.

 

We used the airport express very successfully with our old Denon and and our 
old Sony before getting our current new Denon receiver.

 

hth,

Caitlyn

 

On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Jesus Garcia < <mailto:jesusga...@gmail.com> 
jesusga...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hello list members, two questions. First I wish to send music from my iPhone or 
Mac book pro to my home sound system. My home receiver is a 2003 model, I do 
not wish to replace at the moment since it is a high end flag ship model. 
However it has no HDMI or later than 2003 connections. So, the question is 
should I purchase the airport express or extreme. From reading a few articles 
it appears to me that the extreme does not support airplay? I would prefer 
using airplay. 

Thanks for any suggestions.  

 

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RE: Express or extreme

[Jesus Garcia]

 

Thanks to all who have responded to my questions regarding express or extreme. 
Interesting to note that extreme supports airplay it never made sense to me 
that apple would not support airplay in there premier router. I don’t need a 
router so I am going with the express, but for future reference I will keep 
that in mind.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: July 25, 2015 08:26
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

Just to add, that the airport extreme does support airplay. I have always used 
airplay with the airport extreme.




On 24 Jul 2015, at 4:00 pm, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

Again thank you, you have been a lot of help. Going to order the express this 
afternoon. Take care.

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: July 24, 2015 10:02
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

I’m not sure, but I don’t think so..

 

My hubby is going to check.

Cait

 

On Jul 24, 2015, at 9:52 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

 

Thank you, that is what I thought, one other question do you know if the 
express has an optical connection? That is a tos link connection?

 

From:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Caitlyn Furness
Sent: July 24, 2015 09:46
To:  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Express or extreme

 

Hi,

You want the airport express.

 

you can attach it to your receiver with a standard rca type jack.

 

The airport extreme is a router.

 

We used the airport express very successfully with our old Denon and and our 
old Sony before getting our current new Denon receiver.

 

hth,

Caitlyn

 

On Jul 24, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Jesus Garcia < <mailto:jesusga...@gmail.com> 
jesusga...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hello list members, two questions. First I wish to send music from my iPhone or 
Mac book pro to my home sound system. My home receiver is a 2003 model, I do 
not wish to replace at the moment since it is a high end flag ship model. 
However it has no HDMI or later than 2003 connections. So, the question is 
should I purchase the airport express or extreme. From reading a few articles 
it appears to me that the extreme does not support airplay? I would prefer 
using airplay. 

Thanks for any suggestions.  

 

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Voice Dream navigation

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening folks can anyone tell me how to turn off the fast or rewind 
speaking when I am navigating in headings? I have been through all the 
settings and read the manual and found nothing.


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RE: Voice Dream navigation

[Jesus Garcia]

Yep going to have to do that, seems like there is no way to turn that off. 
Perhaps he will fix it in the next update.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: April 02, 2016 09:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Dream navigation

I don't even know how you turned that feature on. If you can't get any answers 
here on list, right to Winston chen through the support link and he'll be happy 
to help you.

Sent from my IPhone


> On Apr 1, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
> Evening folks can anyone tell me how to turn off the fast or rewind speaking 
> when I am navigating in headings? I have been through all the settings and 
> read the manual and found nothing.
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Side Bar Back

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members, some how I managed to hide my side bar in Finder. 
I have the image browser, the verticle splitter and the tool bar, but no 
side bar. Can someone tell me how to get it back?


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RE: Side Bar Back

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, thank you it worked. That was driving me nuts. Again thanks for the help.

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On Behalf Of george b
Sent: September 25, 2015 11:10
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Subject: RE: Side Bar Back

Go to menu at the top and over to view and arrow down to sidebar and do a vo 
spacebar to check it

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Morning list members, some how I managed to hide my side bar in Finder. 
I have the image browser, the verticle splitter and the tool bar, but no side 
bar. Can someone tell me how to get it back?

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Instructions for a voice over clean install

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members, do to a problem I am having installing the new 
10.11 software, I need to do a complete clean install. I have all my 
data backed up, but do not remember the steps to do a clean install 
using voice over. I know I need to creat a boot disk, if someone would 
be so kind and send me the instructions I would be greatful.


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RE: signitures in email

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, so you turn off cursor tracking before selecting all signature then
press vo , then navigate to signature name drop by pressing vo . Then turn
cursor tracking back on? 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 07:49
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Subject: Re: signitures in email

Hello Jesus,

Select the signature in the central table you want to apply to an acount.
Turn cursor tracking off, press VO-Comma. Navigate to the appropriate
account in the left-hand table. Press VO-Period then remember to turn cursor
tracking back on.

I don't know why we have to turn cursor tracking off for this to work, but
it seems to be the case.

Cheers,

Anne


On 14 Oct 2013, at 12:27, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Hello, list members can someone please explain to me how to activate a
signiture in the email program. I can create the signiture, but cannot seem
to activate said signiture. I understand one must drag the signiture to the
account one is using to send the message. This is the step I am missing and
need help with. thank you.
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RE: Voice Updates in the mac App Store

[Jesus Garcia]

Are the new voices only for 10.9 or can they be used with ML? If yes how do
you get to them?

  _  

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 05:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Updates in the mac App Store


Nope.  Tom is still around. 


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! 

On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Chris Moore  wrote:


Has anyone had problems with the new Daniel voice? After my Mac reporting
that version 3.5 of the voice was available, I installed.  nOW Daniel is
silent.  I tried unchecking the voice in Voice over utility in the hope it
would uninstall in case it was corrupt.  No joy there, so I went into the
system folder and removed the Daniel voice (and most of the old novelty
voices too).  I then went back into the VO utility and selected Daniel
again.  The voice started downloading.   

Still no success though, as every time  I try to select the voice or even
preview the voice, there is no sound.  I am back to using Alex, but I must
admit I quite like the two new American female voices also.

I took a look at Oliver, the new British male voice, but was not impressed.
.  Has Tom gone?

I hope someone can suggest a solution to my Daniel problem.

I will fire off an email to Apple.

Thanks 

Chris 


On 23 Oct 2013, at 07:41, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:


I have a few of the Nuance voices installed, and when checking for updates
in the mac App Store, I see there are updates for all of them.

Jonathan Mosen
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RE: Mail in Mavericks

[Jesus Garcia]

As for the sound issue yes it is also happening on my system. If someone has
a fix please post it. I to have checked my system volume settings and they
are at 100 percent.

  _  

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Barnfather -
TalkNav
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 06:31
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mail in Mavericks


Hi All, 

Two quick questions;

Has anyone noticed that the sound played when you press "send" is no longer
as audible as it used to be, I've looked in Sound Settings within System
Preferences and sound effects are set to 100%, yet the audible volume of the
aeroplane taking off is notably quieter, if not all most impossible to hear.

Also, how do I now get to attachments, either for quick view or to save
them?

They used to be in the Tool Bar, however, appear to have moved?

Many thanks.




Regards,

Neil Barnfather

Talks List Administrator
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TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple
iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your
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RE: External Hard Drive Suggestions

[Jesus Garcia]

Try the pass port family, I just purchased one 2 gigs from western digital
if memory serves me right it was around $149.00 It supports USB 3.0, but not
thunderbolt still plenty fast and not a major costly drive. It comes with
software for both windows and Mac though I have never used the software I
run time machine. They have smaller sizes if 2 gig is more then you want.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: November 02, 2013 16:37
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: External Hard Drive Suggestions

Hey all, 

I know we covered this awhile back but amazingly I couldn't find the thread.
I am finally getting around to getting a external hard drive as the last one
I got wouldn't mount properly so I had to return it. I had gotten a seagate
but with all the issues I had with it, I don't think I want to try and get
another seagate. Can anyone suggest one they have had success with for the
mac. I plan to use it as external storage for music and backups along with a
partition for time machine. Thanks,

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RE: External Hard Drive Suggestions

[Jesus Garcia]

Oops my bad sorry not 2 gigs 2 tera man remember I come from the dark ages
when 16 K was a big deal. Also, I forgot to mention these drives are USB
powered so you do not need a external power supply.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: November 02, 2013 19:17
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions

Gee, only 2 gigs?

Seems a trifle small to me.

Id' want something like at least four teribytes.

Oh, it must have a rotating speed of 72000.


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On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Try the pass port family, I just purchased one 2 gigs from western digital
> if memory serves me right it was around $149.00 It supports USB 3.0, but
not
> thunderbolt still plenty fast and not a major costly drive. It comes with
> software for both windows and Mac though I have never used the software I
> run time machine. They have smaller sizes if 2 gig is more then you want.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: November 02, 2013 16:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: External Hard Drive Suggestions
> 
> Hey all, 
> 
> I know we covered this awhile back but amazingly I couldn't find the
thread.
> I am finally getting around to getting a external hard drive as the last
one
> I got wouldn't mount properly so I had to return it. I had gotten a
seagate
> but with all the issues I had with it, I don't think I want to try and get
> another seagate. Can anyone suggest one they have had success with for the
> mac. I plan to use it as external storage for music and backups along with
a
> partition for time machine. Thanks,
> 
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RE: External Hard Drive Suggestions

[Jesus Garcia]

I agree regarding the LaCie hard drives I have a one Tera byte LaCie Wave
from I think 2008 or 2007 and have never had a problem. Even now I consider
it one of the fastest externals I use. Not surprised Apple is selling there
drives.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: November 02, 2013 20:01
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions

I bought a LaCie 2tb external drive from the apple store. It is both USB and
Firewire800, and can be used as an external boot drive. This model (2tb) is
no longer made, but LaCie is good stuff, and Apple sells it in their stores.
It's good to have a combo drive USB/Firewire, so you can use it as a boot
drive if desired. For the Air, which has no firewire port, I bought a
thunderbolt/firewire adaptor
BTW: I have it partitioned into 4 partitions, one each as a boot partition
for my iMac and MacbookAir, and two data partitions which I don't currently
use.

On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:

> Hey all, 
> 
> I know we covered this awhile back but amazingly I couldn't find the
thread. I am finally getting around to getting a external hard drive as the
last one I got wouldn't mount properly so I had to return it. I had gotten a
seagate but with all the issues I had with it, I don't think I want to try
and get another seagate. Can anyone suggest one they have had success with
for the mac. I plan to use it as external storage for music and backups
along with a partition for time machine. Thanks,
> 
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RE: External Hard Drive Suggestions

[Jesus Garcia]

I wish man talk about speed, actually I think my next external is going to
be a SSD.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
Sent: November 02, 2013 19:58
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions

Cool, but, do they have a rotation speed of 72000RPM?  Gotta have that.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
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On Nov 2, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Oops my bad sorry not 2 gigs 2 tera man remember I come from the dark ages
> when 16 K was a big deal. Also, I forgot to mention these drives are USB
> powered so you do not need a external power supply.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: November 02, 2013 19:17
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions
> 
> Gee, only 2 gigs?
> 
> Seems a trifle small to me.
> 
> Id' want something like at least four teribytes.
> 
> Oh, it must have a rotating speed of 72000.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
> 
> On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> Try the pass port family, I just purchased one 2 gigs from western
digital
>> if memory serves me right it was around $149.00 It supports USB 3.0, but
> not
>> thunderbolt still plenty fast and not a major costly drive. It comes with
>> software for both windows and Mac though I have never used the software I
>> run time machine. They have smaller sizes if 2 gig is more then you want.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
>> Sent: November 02, 2013 16:37
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: External Hard Drive Suggestions
>> 
>> Hey all, 
>> 
>> I know we covered this awhile back but amazingly I couldn't find the
> thread.
>> I am finally getting around to getting a external hard drive as the last
> one
>> I got wouldn't mount properly so I had to return it. I had gotten a
> seagate
>> but with all the issues I had with it, I don't think I want to try and
get
>> another seagate. Can anyone suggest one they have had success with for
the
>> mac. I plan to use it as external storage for music and backups along
with
> a
>> partition for time machine. Thanks,
>> 
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RE: External Hard Drive Suggestions

[Jesus Garcia]

See below.

1.store.westerndigital.com ›
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Home ›
<http://store.westerndigital.com/store/wdus/en_US/cat/ThemeID.21986300/categ
oryID.13092300> External Hard Drives‎

o
<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iFzfUqw-3kcJ:store.wes
terndigital.com/promo/89998000+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us> Cached

My Passport offers high capacity in a sleek portable drive. ... Offering
high capacity in a compact drive, My Passport is the ideal companion for
anyone with lots of ...

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kliphton ---
Sent: November 03, 2013 09:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions

 

Does someone have a link for the 2TB USB 3.0 powered drive mentioned in this
conversation?  I can't seem to find it.

Kliphton

(iMessage&Email) kliphton@outlook.com

(Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype) kliphton72

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 2, 2013, at 8:15 PM, "Brian Fischler"  wrote:

Thanks I was looking at those. Just wanted to see what the consensus is as I
don't want to go through what I went through with the lemon of a seagate I
got. And since on the Amazon reviews it seems like I wasn't alone in not
being able to get my seagate to mount. I guess they are so cheap since they
don't work
On Nov 2, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:




Oops my bad sorry not 2 gigs 2 tera man remember I come from the dark ages

when 16 K was a big deal. Also, I forgot to mention these drives are USB

powered so you do not need a external power supply.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr

Sent: November 02, 2013 19:17

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Suggestions

 

Gee, only 2 gigs?

 

Seems a trifle small to me.

 

Id' want something like at least four teribytes.

 

Oh, it must have a rotating speed of 72000.

 

 

Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind

built-in!

 

Sincerely,

The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

 

On Nov 2, 2013, at 3:55 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

 

Try the pass port family, I just purchased one 2 gigs from western digital

if memory serves me right it was around $149.00 It supports USB 3.0, but

not

thunderbolt still plenty fast and not a major costly drive. It comes with

software for both windows and Mac though I have never used the software I

run time machine. They have smaller sizes if 2 gig is more then you want.

 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler

Sent: November 02, 2013 16:37

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Subject: External Hard Drive Suggestions

 

Hey all, 

 

I know we covered this awhile back but amazingly I couldn't find the

thread.

I am finally getting around to getting a external hard drive as the last

one

I got wouldn't mount properly so I had to return it. I had gotten a

seagate

but with all the issues I had with it, I don't think I want to try and get

another seagate. Can anyone suggest one they have had success with for the

mac. I plan to use it as external storage for music and backups along with

a

partition for time machine. Thanks,

 

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Downcast busy

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening folks I have run in to a problem with Downcast on my Mac. 
Everytime I try to open the application it hangs giving me a downcast 
busy and not responding. My question is how do I clear downcast I think 
the problem is that one of the podcast is causing the program to hang, 
but I cannot find ware the podcasts go. If I need to uninstall and 
reinstall the program what is the best way to do this? I am running 
mavrick 10.9 latest update on a mac book pro. Thanks for any help.


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RE: Downcast busy

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, going to try to uninstall the program, I don't lock up, I can do a
forced quit and shut the program down. Can you or someone remind me of the
best way to uninstall a program? I know some applications you can just go to
the applications folder and delete the file, is this the case with downcast?
Thanks

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
Sent: November 24, 2013 02:11
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downcast busy

Hey Jesus,

Sorry to hear someone else has run into this problem. It happened to me
where I would get the downcast busy message, and I would have to shut down
my computer to do anything. I haven't solved it, and I don't believe anyone
else has. Your best bet is to uninstall downcast and reinstall it, but not
even sure if that will solve the problem. I just stopped using downcast on
the mac. Yeah, wish I wouldn't have wasted the money on it, but do love it
on the iPhone.
On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Evening folks I have run in to a problem with Downcast on my Mac.
Everytime I try to open the application it hangs giving me a downcast busy
and not responding. My question is how do I clear downcast I think the
problem is that one of the podcast is causing the program to hang, but I
cannot find ware the podcasts go. If I need to uninstall and reinstall the
program what is the best way to do this? I am running mavrick 10.9 latest
update on a mac book pro. Thanks for any help.
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RE: Downcast busy

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, thank you, I wrote an email to the developer if he sends me something
to fix it besides uninstalling and reinstalling I will post it to the list.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica D
Sent: November 24, 2013 11:29
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downcast busy

Yes, but check the trash folder to be sure yoy don't need anything, then
secure empty trash found in finder menu.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:00 AM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:
> 
> Okay, going to try to uninstall the program, I don't lock up, I can do a
> forced quit and shut the program down. Can you or someone remind me of the
> best way to uninstall a program? I know some applications you can just go
to
> the applications folder and delete the file, is this the case with
downcast?
> Thanks
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian Fischler
> Sent: November 24, 2013 02:11
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Downcast busy
> 
> Hey Jesus,
> 
> Sorry to hear someone else has run into this problem. It happened to me
> where I would get the downcast busy message, and I would have to shut down
> my computer to do anything. I haven't solved it, and I don't believe
anyone
> else has. Your best bet is to uninstall downcast and reinstall it, but not
> even sure if that will solve the problem. I just stopped using downcast on
> the mac. Yeah, wish I wouldn't have wasted the money on it, but do love it
> on the iPhone.
> On Nov 23, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> Evening folks I have run in to a problem with Downcast on my Mac.
> Everytime I try to open the application it hangs giving me a downcast busy
> and not responding. My question is how do I clear downcast I think the
> problem is that one of the podcast is causing the program to hang, but I
> cannot find ware the podcasts go. If I need to uninstall and reinstall the
> program what is the best way to do this? I am running mavrick 10.9 latest
> update on a mac book pro. Thanks for any help.
>> 
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FIX FOR DOWNCAST BUSY

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, folks for those who are having this issue see below. this worked 
for me, and as the tech support folks say they are trying to work this out.


NOV 25, 2013  |  04:23PM EST
George replied:
Hi Jesus,

We're working on this and hope to have it fixed in the next release. For 
now, I suggest trying this:


1) Close Downcast
2) Open Terminal
3) Run this command in Terminal: defaults delete 
com.jamawkinaw.downcast.mac


That will delete your Downcast preferences. The next time you start 
Downcast you should hit CMD
+ R after it starts up to refresh all your podcasts. Since this is 
deleting your preferences, you'll need
to then re-enable iCloud settings so you get back in sync with your 
other devices.


Thanks,
George

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RE: external drives

[Jesus Garcia]

Good morning how well does this utility work? Any issues with voice over
access?

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Sent: December 02, 2013 06:27
To: Macvisionaries macvisionaries
Subject: Re: external drives

Hi Noah,
You can download and install an add on to the mac operating system
called ntfs 4 mac which allows a mac to read and write to a windows
partition here is the website for you to check it out.

> http://www.paragon-software.com/home/ntfs-mac/

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On 2 Dec 2013, at 3:49 pm, May and Noah  wrote:

> Hey again everyone.
> 
> One more question for tonight.
> 
> I will be getting an IMac next month and I have a 3tb drive that is
currently attached to my windows machine. Is there a way to make the drive
mac ready and not lose everything that's on it?
> 
> May and Prince Noah
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Mozilla Thunderbird?

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening list members, can someone tell me if mozilla thunderbird for the 
mac works with voice over?


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RE: KNFB Reader iPhone App

[Jesus Garcia]

I agree this is by far the most expensive app I have ever purchased for any
of my apple devices. However well worth the price, considering how much I
paid for the original KNFB nosier phone reader and never regretted doing so,
this is amazing. I am certain there are going to be a few areas where I will
want changes, but hey this is the first release. I recommend this software
without any hesitation.  

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: September 19, 2014 16:22
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

Hi Lisette,

Wow, that's impressive.  I think the podcast pretty much sold me, but your
report was the last straw.  It's great to finally have an app that can give
us reliable OCR wherever we are.  thanks for sharing your experience.
Best,
Donna
On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
wrote:

> Donna,
> I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got
100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has
lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the
document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had
anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely
got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if
you want it to.
> It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me.
I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was
at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR
app on my phone.
> It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts
reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.
> 
> Good luck with your decision
> 
> Lisette
> 
> On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin  wrote:
> 
>> Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not
to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber
or Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is
the positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
>> Thanks,
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly 
wrote:
>> 
>>> It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary  wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife
 wrote:
> 
> $100? Ouch.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 9/19/14, Chris G  wrote:
>> Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
>> Chris
>> 
>> Mystic Access
>> Where the magic is in learning.
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>> Phone: (716) 743-8244
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>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
>> Kevin Mattingly  wrote:
>> 
>>> I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation
of the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the
blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone
and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to
give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials.
Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc.
KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind,
said:
 "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty
years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from
day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to
develop the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household
appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more
portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters,
menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday
life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. N

External battery

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning to all, having seen the discussion regarding the limeade line of 
external batteries, I almost purchased the 18. I am now trying to make a 
choice I discovered the peak 6000 which includes the ability to speak 
certain status information. My question is anyone out there own both 
external batteries? If yes which one would you recommend?


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Super duper Help

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members, I know there are a few podcasts out there 
regarding super duper. I am interested in the program and downloaded the 
image file from shirt pocket. However when I click on the file all I get 
is the initial agreement screen then a list view table with a quick 
start rtf file and the users guide in pdf. Clicking on the application 
icon seems to do nothing. Any help would be appreciated.


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RE: Super duper Help

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, now that makes sense no nothing installation wise, but yes the
application file is there. I will copy it to the application folder. That
step I have not taken. Thanks for the help.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicholas Parsons
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 20:32
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Subject: Re: Super duper Help

What did you see when you opened the .dmg disc image file? Did you see a
.pkg installer file or a .app application file? If you see the .pkg
installer file you should open that, if you see a .app application file you
should copy and paste it to your applications folder.

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Super duper

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning folks I need to know if someone can point me to a podcast or two 
regarding super duper. I purchased the program and thus, far love it, 
but I know I am missing much the program can do. I remember Mike Arigo 
did one or two podcasts on super duper, and I thought I saved them, but 
cannot locate them. Any help would be appreciated.


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Media File downloading instead of playing

[Jesus Garcia]

Morning list members a quick question, whenever I click on a media file 
using safari it will download instead of playing. Normally this is no 
issue, but I am wondering if perhaps I have forgotten something or have 
a setting wrong. I am using a mac book pro running latest version of 
Mountain Lion 10.85 thank you.


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RE: Media File downloading instead of playing

[Jesus Garcia]

Nope that does not seem to be the issue the problem I think is that I set 
something up in Safari and I am afraid to go and monkey with the settings since 
everything else is working just fine. Regardless thanks for the reply I thought 
the message did not make it to the list.

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 16:34
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Media File downloading instead of playing

I didn't notice a reply to this one. As far as I know, what the browser does 
with a media file depends on what kind of file it is and what the web server 
tells the browser it is. If it's identified correctly the browser can pick it 
up and play it. If it is misidentified or a format the browser doesn't 
understand then it might just download it instead.

CB

On 9/14/13 9:21 AM, Jesus Garcia wrote:
> Morning list members a quick question, whenever I click on a media 
> file using safari it will download instead of playing. Normally this 
> is no issue, but I am wondering if perhaps I have forgotten something 
> or have a setting wrong. I am using a mac book pro running latest 
> version of Mountain Lion 10.85 thank you.
>

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Loading Application on Start up, Battery Monitor

[Jesus Garcia]

Afternoon list members, can someone tell me how to load an app on start 
up or after start up, so it runs in the back ground. I have battery 
monitor which is quite a cool little app, but I must load it manually 
whenever I start up the computer.

I am using a mac book pro running latest version of ML 10.85 thank you.

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RE: Loading Application on Start up, Battery Monitor

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, thank you, I figured it was something within preferences, but had no
idea where to find it. Again thanks for the help. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Panarese
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:37
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Subject: Re: Loading Application on Start up, Battery Monitor

   In Users and Group preferences in System preferences, choose your account
and then the login items tab.  You might have to unlock the preferences
first, but you would add that application to the table of login items.


Take Care

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On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Afternoon list members, can someone tell me how to load an app on start up
or after start up, so it runs in the back ground. I have battery monitor
which is quite a cool little app, but I must load it manually whenever I
start up the computer.
> I am using a mac book pro running latest version of ML 10.85 thank you.
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RE: Loading Application on Start up, Battery Monitor

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, senor did what you suggested and it worked beautifully. Again thank
you for the help and for pointing me at this area of the settings. 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 17:37
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Subject: Re: Loading Application on Start up, Battery Monitor

   In Users and Group preferences in System preferences, choose your account
and then the login items tab.  You might have to unlock the preferences
first, but you would add that application to the table of login items.


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On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Afternoon list members, can someone tell me how to load an app on start up
or after start up, so it runs in the back ground. I have battery monitor
which is quite a cool little app, but I must load it manually whenever I
start up the computer.
> I am using a mac book pro running latest version of ML 10.85 thank you.
> 
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Copy music CD

[Jesus Garcia]

Afternoon list members can someone tell me the best way to copy a music 
CD. I can import using itunes, though I have not figured out how to add 
said cd to a play list, but I also cannot find how to copy a music CD. 
Using latest ML and latest itunes 11.1.1 on a mac book pro.


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RE: Copy music to cD

[Jesus Garcia]

Great thank you for the help. I assume the highest quality conversion should
be used? 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Helena Fehr
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 17:23
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Copy music to cD

Ther are several ways to do this. The one way is like you said, to import
your Cd to iTunes, and then go to the apple menu, by pressing BOM, right
arrowing to file, and down rrowing till you hear New playlist, and entering
on that, and calling it whatever the cD is called. Then you simply find the
songs in your music, and copy it to the clipboard and pasting it in the
Playlist. If that doesn't work, you could go to the plyist tab on your
iTunes, (it'll say songs radio-button, albums, radio-button and so on, and
you just go to your Music pop-up button, and either tab or VO-right arow
until you hear playlists radio-button), and then you will find a table-list
beside it with your playlists in there. Then you'd go in there and select
the playlist you made for your cD, and then you'd get out of that table and
VO-right arrow or tab until you hear add button, and VO-Space on that. Then
you go back to your music list, and find your songs, and coy them to the
clipboard, and then move back right till you here something like zero items
or something, and paste the song right there. (Command C for copy and
Command V for paste). Then you go back to your music and do the same for the
next song, till all the songs are there. To make sure they're all there, you
can go to the right of that add button till it says Playlist table, and
Wah-Lah, there your songs will be.
Another simpler way, is to put your music cd into your CD-drive, and
something will appear in your finder besides Mackintosh Hd or whatever else
you've got in your finder, and you open that, and when you hear what sounds
to be your songs, you just xelect them all and put them into your documents
or somewhere you know they will be. Then you take the CD back out, and put
in a blank CD, and simply copy and paste or move that folder you just copied
your music into, onto the thing that appears in your finder where your blank
cd is; whatever it's called, it'll look like a folder with nothing in it. As
long as the blank CD is made for music then, and you're copying music onto
it, you shouldn't have any problems with playing it on a sterio or something
else.
There. sorry for the long explanations, but I hope this helps.
God bless!!!
Helena

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signitures in email

[Jesus Garcia]

Hello, list members can someone please explain to me how to activate a 
signiture in the email program. I can create the signiture, but cannot 
seem to activate said signiture. I understand one must drag the 
signiture to the account one is using to send the message. This is the 
step I am missing and need help with. thank you.


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RE: iTunes again

[Jesus Garcia]

did the column browser completely disappear? or, can you bring it back up
from the view menu?

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:04
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iTunes again

I agree there are more steps, and I"m wondering if VO's sweet spots might be
able to help here, or landmarks, but I"m not sure how.

Another issue seems to be that, at least with my library being so huge, (How
Huge Is IT!?!) Often, when interacting with the table, all I hear is "row
1,048, one item)  "row 10249 one item."  Doesn't tell me what the item is.

I want my column browser back


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RE: Selecting text on the Mac

[Jesus Garcia]

Regarding this subject I have a couple of questions. Within safari two
methods are available for selecting larger blocks of text. The one I am most
interested in is the selection between headings. I understand placing the
cursor at the beginning of a heading which contains text and doing a pinch
gesture on the track pad will select all the text. Also, using quick nav one
can do the same by a command shift down arrow. My question is the following
I have been able to select and copy with the command shift down arrow using
quick nav, but thus far the pinch gesture seems to select the text it makes
the sound, but when I do the copy command, command C nothing seems to
happen. Also, once a block of text is selected does one have to clear the
memory or do something with Safari? It begins to give me safari busy
messages if I try to select another block of text.
I am using a mac book pro with 16 gigs of ram latest mountain lion.

Thanks 

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RE: asking VoiceOver for the current time and date as well as title of the window

[Jesus Garcia]

A very nice explination, thanks been using a mac book pro for a year and I
did not know those key strokes again thanks for the information.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 18:56
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: asking VoiceOver for the current time and date as well as title
of the window

To obtain the current time, press Control, option, M twice quickly. And then
use control option left and right arrow to find the time.
To find the current title of the window, press control option F2. If however
you are on a MacBook, it may be necessary to press FN, Control, option, F2,
to hear the title of the window. Press this key combination twice quickly to
obtain a list of all of the open windows in that specific application.
To read the title of the application, press control option F1. Please no, it
is necessary to include the FN, key, if you had to for the previous step. To
obtain a list of all of the running applications, you can press this key
combination twice quickly.
I hope this helps a little bit.



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On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:50 PM, "Reinhard Stebner" 
wrote:

> How does one ask VoiceOver for the current time and is it possible to 
> see the title of the focused window?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Annie Skov 
> Nielsen
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 6:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Caliber on the Mac
> 
> Hi Mary.
> 
> I would be so happy if calibre on the mac could be a little more
accessible.
> I would be glad, if you would try contacting the developer. It is a 
> bit complicated. I tried a while ago, it was a little difficult to go 
> into the contact forum. They did not seem very interested to our 
> needs. But I hope if more blind people contacted them, and in details 
> are explayning our needs and problems, it would maybe help.
> 
> When your calibre has been setup, do you still need sighted 
> assistance, or is everything working automatically.
> 
> I have also been looking at the possibility to make some automator 
> scripts, that can convert from mobi and htmlz to epub, but I can not 
> find much information about how to make such scripts.
> 
> I know that there has been made some scripts that can convert from rtf 
> to epub, so it ought to be possible to make some scripts that can 
> convert from mobi and htmlz.
> Best regards Annie.
> Best regards Annie.
> Den Jan 1, 2013 kl. 4:48 AM skrev Mary Otten :
> 
>> Caliber is a downloadable free ebook management software. The nice 
>> thing
> you can do with this application and the right plugins is to take the 
> drm off of books you have purchased from B&& or Amazon so that you can 
> use these books on whatever device you want. This use to require all 
> kinds of messing about in the terminal, a process not for the faint of 
> heart or the non-techy types, of whom I am one. Unfortunately, the 
> process with the application and the plugins seems totally 
> inaccessible. I've tried with the keyboard. I've tried turning off 
> trackpad commander and just moving my finger around on the magic track 
> pad to see if anything useful showed up. It didn't. So I wonder if 
> anybody has tried contacting the developer of the app regarding 
> accessibility. I know it is a volunteer effort. And I am lucky, 
> because I have a sighted spouse, who can be talked in to doing this 
> process for me, so that I can access Kindle books now on my iDevices, 
> complete with tables of contents, links etc. But not everybody has 
> that luxury. Besides, I'd prefer to not need this help. I'm willing to 
> join the effort to convince the dev to make it accessible, but if others
have tried and been told to buzz off, then that would be good to know as
well.
>> 
>> Mary
>> 
>> Mary Otten
>> motte...@gmail.com
>> 
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The Message APP

[Jesus Garcia]

Okay, folks I knew how to do this and somewhere along the way I forgot. 
Can someone please remind me how to send a message from the message app. 
I remember you can only send it to others using I O S or O X devices I 
just don't remember the command.


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RE: The Message APP

[Jesus Garcia]

thanks with the iPhone no problem I am trying to recall how to do it with
the Mac notebook pro. I do not remember the short cut key commands.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 18:52
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Message APP

You open the app and hit the compose button in the upper right corner. If
you are on an iPhone you can send a regular text to any phone number, but
wifi iPads and iPods are restricted to others using the iMessage service.
On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Okay, folks I knew how to do this and somewhere along the way I forgot.
Can someone please remind me how to send a message from the message app. I
remember you can only send it to others using I O S or O X devices I just
don't remember the command.
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RE: The Message APP

[Jesus Garcia]

thanks will give it a try.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 20:08
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Subject: Re: The Message APP

Wow, sorry, I forgot which list I was on! I avoid the mac's messages app
because it is tedious to navigate, but every option you could want will be
found in the menu bar (vo-m).
On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Red.Falcon 
wrote:

> Hi there!
> Command+n for new message!
> And I think Command+shift+n for new conversation if that helps!
> Colin
> 
> On 9 Feb 2013, at 00:12, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:
> 
>> thanks with the iPhone no problem I am trying to recall how to do it 
>> with the Mac notebook pro. I do not remember the short cut key commands.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 18:52
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Message APP
>> 
>> You open the app and hit the compose button in the upper right 
>> corner. If you are on an iPhone you can send a regular text to any 
>> phone number, but wifi iPads and iPods are restricted to others using the
iMessage service.
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, folks I knew how to do this and somewhere along the way I forgot.
>> Can someone please remind me how to send a message from the message 
>> app. I remember you can only send it to others using I O S or O X 
>> devices I just don't remember the command.
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RE: The Message APP

[Jesus Garcia]

Good but when you are done typing the message I cannot seem to find the
final command to send the message on its way. Am I missing something? I know
I did this when Mountain Lion first came out, just don't remember how.

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Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 19:37
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Subject: Re: The Message APP

Hi there!
Command+n for new message!
And I think Command+shift+n for new conversation if that helps!
Colin

On 9 Feb 2013, at 00:12, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

> thanks with the iPhone no problem I am trying to recall how to do it 
> with the Mac notebook pro. I do not remember the short cut key commands.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 18:52
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Message APP
> 
> You open the app and hit the compose button in the upper right corner. 
> If you are on an iPhone you can send a regular text to any phone 
> number, but wifi iPads and iPods are restricted to others using the
iMessage service.
> On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> Okay, folks I knew how to do this and somewhere along the way I forgot.
> Can someone please remind me how to send a message from the message 
> app. I remember you can only send it to others using I O S or O X 
> devices I just don't remember the command.
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RE: The Message APP

[Jesus Garcia]

Thank you as usual the simple things is what one forgets.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett C.
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 21:20
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Subject: Re: The Message APP

You just need to hit the enter key to send your message.

Brett C.

On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Good but when you are done typing the message I cannot seem to find 
> the final command to send the message on its way. Am I missing 
> something? I know I did this when Mountain Lion first came out, just don't
remember how.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 19:37
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The Message APP
> 
> Hi there!
> Command+n for new message!
> And I think Command+shift+n for new conversation if that helps!
> Colin
> 
> On 9 Feb 2013, at 00:12, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:
> 
>> thanks with the iPhone no problem I am trying to recall how to do it 
>> with the Mac notebook pro. I do not remember the short cut key commands.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 18:52
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Message APP
>> 
>> You open the app and hit the compose button in the upper right corner. 
>> If you are on an iPhone you can send a regular text to any phone 
>> number, but wifi iPads and iPods are restricted to others using the
> iMessage service.
>> On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
>> 
>>> Okay, folks I knew how to do this and somewhere along the way I forgot.
>> Can someone please remind me how to send a message from the message 
>> app. I remember you can only send it to others using I O S or O X 
>> devices I just don't remember the command.
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RE: Dictation feature of mountain lion

[Jesus Garcia]

You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo shift down
arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same type of tone you
get when activating dictation on any of the I devices speak your peace then
double tap the FN key again. That should do it. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field to
tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
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> Can you explain what you mean?
> 
> God bless,
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli
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>> Hi guys, why want to the Mountain lion dictation work when I am on Siri
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RE: Dictation feature of mountain lion

[Jesus Garcia]

Yes to both questions so long as you are running Mountain Lion. I believe
you may need to activate the feature in the systems preference I don't
recall if it was the default when I set up mountain lion. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ppowell...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 16:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi folks, this is a feature, I am not familiar with. I have seen it in
system preferences. My question is this, will it work on any text
boxes/iMessage? Will it repeat what it has written? Thanks for any help.

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo shift down
arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same type of tone you
get when activating dictation on any of the I devices speak your peace then
double tap the FN key again. That should do it. 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field to
tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Brandon Olivares 
wrote:

> Can you explain what you mean?
> 
> God bless,
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> On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli
 wrote:
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>> Hi guys, why want to the Mountain lion dictation work when I am on 
>> Siri
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RE: Dictation feature of mountain lion

[Jesus Garcia]

I suspect there is some mention within the wider help menu, perhaps someone
on the list with more expertise can jump in here. As for the accuracy it
seems to do quite well I have a Mac book Pro and have only used this feature
to play around. However it seem to make few if any mistakes.

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ppowell...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 17:16
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Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Thank you very much. Much appreciated. Yes, I am running mountain  lion and
the latest updates. Is there a help menu within the feature? Are you also
familiar with the rate of accuracy within the app?

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:13 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

Yes to both questions so long as you are running Mountain Lion. I believe
you may need to activate the feature in the systems preference I don't
recall if it was the default when I set up mountain lion. 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ppowell...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 16:40
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi folks, this is a feature, I am not familiar with. I have seen it in
system preferences. My question is this, will it work on any text
boxes/iMessage? Will it repeat what it has written? Thanks for any help.

Pam Francis

On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:

You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo shift down
arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same type of tone you
get when activating dictation on any of the I devices speak your peace then
double tap the FN key again. That should do it. 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:41
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field to
tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Brandon Olivares 
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> God bless,
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>> Hi guys, why want to the Mountain lion dictation work when I am on 
>> Siri
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RE: Dictation feature of mountain lion

[Jesus Garcia]

Different concepts the dictation feature on the Mac is much closer to the
dictation feature on the I O S devices it is for dictating short text into
any edit field mostly within the email, message and text editor programs. I
am certain others on the list can explain better, but for the most part I
have only used it for short text messages, as I do on the iPohne. 

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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jessica Moss
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:30
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion

How much will that allow you to do compared to Siri?
On Feb 9, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:

> Hello, I was able to activate the dictation button and the system
preferences on my Mac. Unfortunately so far I can only get this to work and
mail. It is probably a mistake on my part.
> On Feb 9, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:
> 
>> Yes to both questions so long as you are running Mountain Lion. I 
>> believe you may need to activate the feature in the systems 
>> preference I don't recall if it was the default when I set up mountain
lion.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
>> ppowell...@aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 16:40
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion
>> 
>> Hi folks, this is a feature, I am not familiar with. I have seen it 
>> in system preferences. My question is this, will it work on any text 
>> boxes/iMessage? Will it repeat what it has written? Thanks for any help.
>> 
>> Pam Francis
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:19 PM, "Jesus Garcia"  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to be certain you are interacting with the edit field vo 
>> shift down arrow, then tap the FN key twice you should get the same 
>> type of tone you get when activating dictation on any of the I 
>> devices speak your peace then double tap the FN key again. That should do
it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarai 
>> Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:41
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Dictation feature of mountain lion
>> 
>> Hi when I log onto my Twitter client Searness, I go to the edit field 
>> to tweet, and I press function key twice, and nothing happens.
>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Brandon Olivares 
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you explain what you mean?
>>> 
>>> God bless,
>>> Brandon Olivares
>>> Azavia Technologies
>>> ZCaptcha - The Captcha Reader
>>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:17 AM, Sarai Bucciarelli
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi guys, why want to the Mountain lion dictation work when I am on 
>>>> Siri
>> next question
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Sounds For Mac Book Pro

[Jesus Garcia]

Evening folks, a question is there a site where one can get additional 
sounds then the set that is included with the Mac? If so, what is the 
procedure to download and install the sounds in the correct folders? I 
am willing to pay for a few different sounds. I am using a mac book pro 
running mountain lion latest update.


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