thank you very much, as I said new user this is good very good. Never saw that in the documentation or the tutorials. I hope someone soon does a high end tutorial from beginning to end on voice over with the common apps such as safari, the email and text editor. I certainly would be prepared to pay for something along those lines.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:59 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? Hi, pressing VO command H brings you to the next heading. Adding shift to that goes to the previous heading. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Jesus Garcia <jesusga...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, long as we are talking about fixes one would like to see I would > also like to see a little easier navigation of headings on web pages. > Perhaps as a relative new user to the mac I am missing something, but > I find it easier to navigate HTML headings in web pages with windows > screen readers then with voice over. Again this may be my missing > something major. And yes the dictionary would be nice my name > especially I would like to hear it with its Spanish pronunciation > again a miner issue, but one I would like to be able to correct. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 18:37 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: what Voiceover bugs people want or are hoping will be > fixed or squashed in Mountain Lion? > > Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements. I > can't remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them. > I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements. > > The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by the > pathetic slow buffering system voice over uses. So I would like to > see that rewritten from the ground up. There are a few random > performance bugs that happen now and then which require me to switch > voice over off then back on again. So overall performance could do with being improved. > > I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching > between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful. > I would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down > arrow or up key. VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many > HMTL elements are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to > find more tables and headings than VO, especially in the buggy rotor. > > I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, > but I believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release > (according to Apple's website). > > I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update > to iWork. There just is not enough accessible productive software on the Mac. > There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely? > > Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices > where the pitch used to shift up and down randomly. I stopped using > those voices as it became too annoying. > > I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary. For > example if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r > and d, you get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third? So I > think the ability to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or > maybe VO should grow up and become a tad more intelligent. I would > like more control over how VO reads out numbers too. > > Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls > an HTML area, as something else? For example when using adium the > chat window is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or > conversation window would be more meaningful. > > Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the > iTunes store. The page takes a while to render. Well actually > visually it does not, but VO seems to think it does. Actually come to > mention it when VO says something is busy, a sighted person can still > move the mouse and perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy. > > I spotted another bug today too. When ordering a smart case for my > iPad, VO was unable to read out the colour options. When trying to > select a colour, VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 > colours. The work around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the > top of the screen and read out the description to see if the default > green had changed. Or look in the basket and hope to god you have not > selected pink. I eventually performed this task via the Apple Store > app on my iPhone which performed perfectly. > > Chris > On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote: > >> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they >> would > like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. >> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not >> many > enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you > like fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. >> I'll go 1st. >> For me its safari. two things for me. >> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover > doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO utility. > >> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know >> when > the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover Busy!" > Not! >> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 >> >> So what are yours? >> >> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested >> to see > what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good ones! >> >> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! 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