Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover
Just to add a bit to this thread and clear up a possible misunderstanding. I haven’t seen anyone mention Sound forge (now owned by Magix), Sound Studio or Wave Pad. It’s been a while since I’ve used these but they might be of help. One tip for Sound Studio, at least used to be to turn off cursor tracking, which made the app work quite well with VO. Also, since Sound Forge Pro is now about $300 US, Logic Pro may be a better option if you would like a complete professional solution with less cost. Secondly, on the subject of Logic, having used both ProTools and Logic, I’m wondering what issues people are finding with the accessibility of Logic? I use it on a daily basis for audio editing and production work and can vouch for an extraordinarily high level of accessibility with VO. So hope this helps. Have a great day! Cheers! Cara > On Aug 9, 2021, at 3:32 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: > > Hi! > I still wonder why mac’s own Logic Pro isn’t better supported by VoiceOver. > It works and I am not a good user but it should work better I think. > /A > >> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 23:08 skrev Karen Lewellen : >> >> well...yes. >> Pro tools is a roles Royce or Mercedes >> Many here may only need a ford, or even just a bicycle for their sound work. >> Do not mistake me, Pro tools is the program on which my radio production >> work is based, long before the supports Chuck speaks of even existed. >> But, there is a professional reason for that investment. >> One not everyone needs to make. >> Kare >> >> >> On Sun, 8 Aug 2021, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> But come on Chuck! >>> I don’t do music and I don’t need a costly app with thousands of effects >>> and features. >>> Yes I believe you. >>> But most people can’t afford that. >>> /A >>> >>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 21:05 skrev Chuck Reichel >>>> : >>>> >>>> Hi Guys, >>>> The short answer is Avid Pro Tools. >>>> I’ve been editing audio with it for many years now and its straight >>>> forward but does cost a bit. >>>> Our Avid beta teem is constantly working to keep accessibility in the >>>> forefront for Pro Tools! :) >>>> >>>> Talk soon >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 11:25 AM, Herbie Allen >>>> <mailto:herbie.al...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Amadeus Pro is a great app. A bit querky perhaps, but once you start >>>>> practicing, you get used to how it works. >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 8, 2021, at 10:08, Anders Holmberg >>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi! >>>>>> No I don't think so. >>>>>> I haven’t found any. >>>>>> /A >>>>>> >>>>>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 16:10 skrev Frank Ventura >>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would be interested in Twistedwave, are there any tutorials for it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 10:07 AM >>>>>>> To: 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: What audio editing apps work well on the Mac with Voiceover >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> There is Amadeus Pro but its not very easy to use but works very well. >>>>>>> Jonathan Mosen has made a daisy book on how to use the Amadeus Pro. >>>>>>> There is also twisted wave which also is available for iOS. >>>>>>> I was going to learn it but there has been so much things in the way. >>>>>>> /A >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8 aug. 2021 kl. 04:40 skrev Frank Ventura >>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, can anyone recommend an ea
Moderator Note: Status of VIPhone
Hi All, I wanted to post this here as some of us are on both lists. As some of you may know, as of Friday, Google has prevented access to the VIPhone mailing list because it says that the list contains spam or questionable content. However, they did not alert either Mark or myself about this, nor have they told us what the supposed content may be. Mark and I have sent feedback to Google and requested a manual review of the list in hopes that it can be restored as soon as possible. These are the only options we seem to have available to us aside from just getting the word out in hopes that someone at Google might at least learn about the importance of the VIPhone group for the blind and visually impaired community and perhaps review the list more quickly. So I just wanted to let you all know the current status of the group and why it is not available at present. If anyone does happen to have any contacts at Google or works there themselves and has any way of getting the review process to happen a bit faster, then it would sure be helping a lot of people. Like MacVisionaries, VIPhone also has a large following and provides a valuable resource for many blind and visually impaired folks. So anything anyone can do to either help get the word out or at least update people on the status of the list, it would sure be appreciated. :) Thanks so much to you all and apologies for the somewhat OT posting. I thought you all should know what is going on. Thanks very much and please let me wish you and yours my very best! Cheers! Cara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D3924E32-B698-4D3B-8C28-99C9989C0865%40caraquinn.com.
Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
Hi All, I have some good news! Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your invitation. This will take a few days because we are limited in the amount of invites we can send out each day. For those who would rather request a group subscription directly, here is the link to the group page. https://groups.google.com/g/viphone2 I know this is not the smoothest solution, but we’re a great group of people and we will adapt! :) -And maybe even make this a better list than what we had. You never know! :) -Either way, let’s all enjoy the new list! Thanks very much to you all for your patience and please let me wish you all a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! Cheers! Cara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AEF2094-62E6-4264-B705-3E14A88CFEF9%40caraquinn.com.
Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
Hi Michael, Neither do we! As I said, neither Mark nor I had gotten any notice whatsoever from Google. Even before I’d had a chance to look at the group that day, listers sent Mark and I notes letting us know that the group had been banned from Google and that they could not access it. Even I could not access the group from the My Groups page on Google. I actually needed to search the web for VIPhone and then saw the banned Content notice that everyone else did. Fortunately, as group owners, Mark and I were given a button which allowed us to proceed to the standard VIPhone page so we could at least try to figure out what messages Google did not like and request a manual review of the list. Google has still not reached out in any way, to either Mark or myself to offer us any kind of information at all or to let us know if they’ve begun any kind of review. So we are as much in the dark on this as you all are. I wish I could say more but I have no more to say! lol! it’s just crazy! I’ll definitely keep you all up to date as soon as I know any more. For now though, let’s all make the new group as much a home as the original. I’m certainly going to! :) thanks so much, Michael for your note and please, everyone have a terrific day / evening! Cheers! Cara > On Jan 26, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Michael Marshall > wrote: > > What exactly is googles problem? have they actually earmarked anything that > could be potentially harmful? I just don't get this. > >> On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have some good news! >> >> Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) >> >> For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least >> until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. >> >> Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original >> members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your invitation. >> This will take a few days because we are limited in the amount of invites we >> can send out each day. >> >> For those who would rather request a group subscription directly, here is >> the link to the group page. >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/viphone2 >> >> I know this is not the smoothest solution, but we’re a great group of people >> and we will adapt! :) -And maybe even make this a better list than what we >> had. You never know! :) -Either way, let’s all enjoy the new list! >> >> Thanks very much to you all for your patience and please let me wish you all >> a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AEF2094-62E6-4264-B705-3E14A88CFEF9%40caraquinn.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web v
Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
hey Max, no worries and you’re not thick! :) yes, go ahead and click on the link in the email to accept the invitation. I haven’t actually seen what the invites look like from the receiving end so perhaps someone else here may be of more help regarding the actual wording of the links in the invitation. -But yes, you will need to accept the invitation to be a part of the group. If you need any more help, please feel free to write me directly and we can go from there. Best of luck! Cheers! Cara > On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Agent086b wrote: > > hi, > I am a bit thick I know! If we receive an invitation does that mean we then > click on the link to join? > Or is this not necessary? > Max. > >> On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have some good news! >> >> Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) >> >> For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least >> until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. >> >> Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original >> members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your invitation. >> This will take a few days because we are limited in the amount of invites we >> can send out each day. >> >> For those who would rather request a group subscription directly, here is >> the link to the group page. >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/viphone2 >> >> I know this is not the smoothest solution, but we’re a great group of people >> and we will adapt! :) -And maybe even make this a better list than what we >> had. You never know! :) -Either way, let’s all enjoy the new list! >> >> Thanks very much to you all for your patience and please let me wish you all >> a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AEF2094-62E6-4264-B705-3E14A88CFEF9%40caraquinn.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/73CA9939-5137-4951-9C3E-48B13FBE1514%40internode.on.net. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/97F92BF9-8C80-4AB3-90EA-9DAFD1929AE7%40gmail.com.
Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
Hi Joseph, Well there are obviously no guarantees, but considering that VIPhone has been around for about thirteen years now, I think we hopefully will be OK until we can think of a better solution. :) We’re still not opposed to the idea of moving the list to a new provider and the money, while a bit steep for a group our size, is not really the issue. There were several factors which went into deciding to stay with Google Groups for the time being. if nothing else, it was actually the fastest way we could get a list back up and running. Other providers would have taken much, much longer to accommodate reinstating all of our members. So this was definitely a consideration. With that, I think we should probably close this topic here for now, and let MacVisionaries get back to being MacVisionaries. :) If anyone else has any additional questions, I’d be happy to answer them so please feel free to email me directly if you’d like. Thanks everyone and please have a lovely day / evening! Cheers! Cara > On Jan 27, 2022, at 4:56 PM, joseph hodge wrote: > > My only question is since Google kicked you guys off the first time what > makes the second group any different? I’m just worried that people are going > to sign up just to have the same issue arise who knows when! It would just be > interesting to know why Google did this so the second time around it doesn’t > repeat itself hopefully you guys figure that out soon. I understand that > other services cost money so not ideal. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 26, 2022, at 7:19 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> I have some good news! >> >> Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) >> >> For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At least >> until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens from there. >> >> Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original >> members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your invitation. >> This will take a few days because we are limited in the amount of invites we >> can send out each day. >> >> For those who would rather request a group subscription directly, here is >> the link to the group page. >> >> https://groups.google.com/g/viphone2 >> >> I know this is not the smoothest solution, but we’re a great group of people >> and we will adapt! :) -And maybe even make this a better list than what we >> had. You never know! :) -Either way, let’s all enjoy the new list! >> >> Thanks very much to you all for your patience and please let me wish you all >> a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be! >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/4AEF2094-62E6-4264-B705-3E14A88CFEF9%40caraquinn.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubs
Re: Moderator Note - The Next Generation of VIPhone
HI All, Just as a general reply, Mark and I will definitely see what we can do to try to figure out what is going on. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience. As I said, we are still considering moving the list but we have more research to do. Just to give you an idea, at present with our current list membership, Groups IO would charge us approx. $1200 per year to host VIPhone there and this goes up as more folks join. I’m really not wanting to ask for donations so while the cost is not prohibitive, we’d certainly love something a bit cheaper with a decent feature set if we can get it. :) It would also take quite a while to add everyone as Groups IO has more stringent limits on how many people can directly be added / invited each day. Lastly, I’ve sent their customer service a note several days ago now and still have not seen a response. So right now, Google is still the best option in the short-term until we find a better solution. Trust me, we are still looking! :) Anyway, thanks to you all and once again, Mark and I will look into these issues ya’ll are seeing and see what we can do. Please have a great weekend and please do feel free to direct any more questions or issues you’re finding directly to me or Mark. This way we should see them a bit faster. Thanks so much! Cheers! Cara > On Jan 28, 2022, at 3:18 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I will add that previously one could subscribe via e-mail instead of visiting > the google groups site at all. > I am guessing this is gone, especially given google's desire to track > everyone these days. > would freelists.org be a possibility? > Karen > > > > On Fri, 28 Jan 2022, Mary Otten wrote: > >> Well, I don’t have an official invitation yet, but I did try clicking on the >> link that was in the original message where you could supposedly go and get >> a group subscription link that way. Except I got the same message that Max >> did. You don’t have permission to access this content. You can try logging >> in, but to do that, you must already be subscribed. I really don’t like >> Google. It’s too bad we can’t go to groups.io. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Agent086b wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> clicking on the link in the invite email takes me to a 404 error page not >>> found. >>> Cara clicking on the link in your message to the list says I don’t have >>> access to that page also. >>> Can anybody give me any pointers? >>> Thanks for any help. >>> Max >>> >>>> On 28 Jan 2022, at 11:14 am, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>> >>>> hey Max, no worries and you’re not thick! :) >>>> >>>> yes, go ahead and click on the link in the email to accept the invitation. >>>> >>>> I haven’t actually seen what the invites look like from the receiving end >>>> so perhaps someone else here may be of more help regarding the actual >>>> wording of the links in the invitation. >>>> >>>> -But yes, you will need to accept the invitation to be a part of the group. >>>> >>>> If you need any more help, please feel free to write me directly and we >>>> can go from there. >>>> >>>> Best of luck! >>>> >>>> Cheers! >>>> >>>> Cara >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:43 PM, Agent086b >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> I am a bit thick I know! If we receive an invitation does that mean we >>>>> then click on the link to join? >>>>> Or is this not necessary? >>>>> Max. >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Jan 2022, at 11:19 am, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some good news! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark and I have started VIPhone, The Next Generation. :) >>>>>> >>>>>> For now at least, this list will pick up where VIPhone left off. At >>>>>> least until Google decides to review us. -Then we’ll see what happens >>>>>> from there. >>>>>> >>>>>> Over the next few days, Mark and I will be inviting all of the original >>>>>> members of VIPhone. So if you wish, you need only wait for your >>>>>> invitation. This will take a few days because we are limited in the >>>>>> amount of invites we can send
Re: Web sites maxing resources in Safari.
Hi Jessica and All, I just tried this site in Safari (with JavaScript enabled) on an M1 MacBook Air (running Big Sur 11.2) and it came up immediately and seemed to work fine. I did not explore the site but did quickly tab through some links and read a bit of info etc. I wonder if my being a .1 version behind may have anything to do with it? I’d be surprised but you never know. :) Just to add something to this thread that hasn’t been mentioned so far; “busy’ messages in apps may not actually be the app itself being unresponsive or using excessive resources. Even though Voiceover may announce that the app itself is busy, it may actually be Voiceover which is busy attempting to be able to display information from the app. Obviously, this is not always the case and it would definitely be nice to be able to tell the difference easily with VO. I bring this up because occasionally when VO says that an app is busy, it is absolutely possible to interact with the app and its UI using the mouse. Activity Monitor may be helpful in these cases to tell which process may actually be using more resources. Hope this might help diagnose the issue. So sorry the site / Safari / VO is being a pain! Cheers! Cara > On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:52 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Have you considered using Microsoft Edge? I find it a lot more responsive > than Safari. > > Dave Carlson > Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Farfar, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:54 AM, Jessica Moss <mailto:junglebookfa...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > This is actually the company I work with that I’ve been posting about off and > on, and I relayed back to my supervisor that one of you mentioned disabling > javascript. However, he made me aware that unfortunately, disabling > javascript will make some of the web sites we’re currently working with > enaccessible, so at the moment, the only workaround I’ve been able to find > with this for now, is to open it in Chrome, which seems to load it with no > serious issues, aside from a few things I’ve clicked on that for some reason > cause Voiceover to reboot. > >> On Feb 21, 2021, at 11:44 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries >> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Your only solution will be to take it up with Apple Accessibility directly. >> >> On 19/2/21 2:01 pm, Jessica Moss wrote: >>> The following url: >>> >>> https://omnicommander.com <https://omnicommander.com/> >>> >>> Is currently maxing all the resources on my Mac, and this is after having >>> to do a fresh install of Big Sur, due to what I thought the issue was >>> (Citrix Server not uninstalling correctly and burying itself in multiple >>> places on my computer to the point where removing it was too much of a >>> pain.) >>> However, even after erasing my main drive, reinstalling Big Sur, and >>> trying to launch the site again, which we’re currently revamping, and I’m >>> needing to test for accessibility, all it’s doing on my end is causing my >>> fan to run harder than it should, and Safari to constantly display busy >>> messages. Could someone please let me know if this is happening to anyone >>> else, and what I may be able to do at this point to fix it? >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C63FF8E4-AA84-497C-92B2-D7A5E00AFECD%40gmail.com >
Re: The Area To Drop May Be Hidden
Hi Fazil, Here is something else you can try. You can also run the app that you like and then it should also show up in the dock. You can locate it by going to the dock and typing the first few letters of the app name. Once you find it, then use VO shift m to bring up a context menu. When you bring up a context menu, there will be an item called Options. When you open it you should see an choice to Keep in Dock. this will also add the app to the dock. This is just one other way you can try. Hope this helps. Cheers! Cara > On Feb 25, 2021, at 12:56 AM, Fazil wrote: > > Thanks much, Brad. > When I hit ctrl-command-shift-t on Garage-Band in Application folder, > VoiceOver says add to Dock, and when I went to Dock, VoiceOver says one new > item but I could not find Garage-Band there nor the icon count changed. > Am I doing something wrong? > Thanks! > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:48 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: The Area To Drop May Be Hidden > > If you want to add an item from the Application folder, or any other folder > to the Dock, do the following: > 1. Select/highlight the item you wish to add to the Dock. > 2. Press CTRL + CMD + Shift + T, , and that’s it. > > - Brad - > > > On Feb 24, 2021, at 14:57, Fazil <mailto:fzlmahmoo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, list. > I am trying to add an application to Dock from the Application Folder. I go > to application folder, navigate to my desired application, press VO-Comma, go > to dock and press VO-less than or VO-greater than but I got an error message > saying The Area To Drop May Be Hidden. > Am I doing something wrong? How can I fix this, please? > Thanks! > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003501d70aef%24b3b20990%241b161cb0%24%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/003501d70aef%24b3b20990%241b161cb0%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can > reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1027FEB4-969A-4524-A7E2-9637FAEE2DC5%40swbell.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1027FEB4-969A-4524-A7E2-9637FAEE2DC5%40swbell.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information i
Re: Comparing VoiceOver And NVDA
es against Apple’s commitment to >>>>>> accessibility and the high standard of quality many would associate with >>>>>> the company. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because VoiceOver is part of the system, you must wait for Apple to >>>>>> update the system to see if anything has been added or fixed. Since >>>>>> Apple’s operating systems are not open source, this means Apple is the >>>>>> only one that can maintain the screen reader. The fact they are not is >>>>>> very sad, as VoiceOver has the potential to do many great things if the >>>>>> appropriate resources were dedicated to it. Perhaps the reason for this >>>>>> neglect is the extreme popularity of Apple’s mobile iOS devices, as >>>>>> VoiceOver on that platform is constantly refined. We may never know, as >>>>>> Apple is very tight-lipped and secretive when it comes to their future >>>>>> developments. Unlike the open communication and collaboration model with >>>>>> NV Access, Apple does not communicate with the disability community. >>>>>> Again, this is most likely due to the secretive nature of the company, >>>>>> but things would probably be much better if Apple employees were willing >>>>>> and/or able to speak openly about accessibility with the users they >>>>>> serve. >>>>>> >>>>>> Conclusion >>>>>> I have done my best to outline the major differences between NVDA on >>>>>> Windows and VoiceOver on the Mac. While both products are good, I >>>>>> personally lean in favor of NVDA. Microsoft Windows is by far the most >>>>>> popular system in the world, and NVDA is a great tool in the toolbox. >>>>>> Its open source nature is a major plus and means the innovation and >>>>>> ability to keep up with the ever increasing changes in Windows is almost >>>>>> certain. In contrast, Apple’s neglect has turned me personally away from >>>>>> the Mac. I do not recommend people invest in Macs anymore either, as it >>>>>> has been clear for many years that Apple’s focus is on iOS. While it’s >>>>>> sad these events have transpired, we must never forget or disrespect the >>>>>> work Apple has done. Apple is a pioneer in the realm of mainstream >>>>>> accessibility, and now everyone else including Microsoft is trying to >>>>>> catch up. This is a very good thing as it pushes the entire industry >>>>>> forward and ultimately means access for blind users is only getting >>>>>> better and better as the years March on. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all >>>>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files >>>>> sound good? Then audio editing101 is the group for you, join here >>>>> audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io >>>>> <mailto:audio-editing101+subscr...@groups.io> >>>>> Let’s master editing audio together! >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr.
Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
to troubleshoot >>>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance. We were >>>> not successful. >>>> >>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement. I spent another >>>> half hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of >>>> which, he directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple >>>> Service dealer. My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do >>>> that. I just got back from there. They weren't able to fix it either. >>>> He said that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has >>>> recommended that I install the latest Big Sur update. I'm downloading it >>>> now. If that doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to >>>> using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which works just fine. >>>> >>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/69083F3D-5AB8-4218-A407-EBCF274545B0%40me.com. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/057701d741e1%241fc54cf0%245f4fe6d0%24%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macv
Quick Moderator Note -was- Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
>>>> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you report. >>>> I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old >>>> Mac to the new M1 Mac. >>>> I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any difference, but >>>> it can’t hurt either. >>>> I suggest wiping the Mac, and starting over as a completely new Mac. Then >>>> transfer your old data to the new Mac manually. >>>> I think you will have a lot less trouble doing this. >>>> >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2021, at 13:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I >>>> would share my experience. >>>> >>>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache >>>> since. When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine. But after I >>>> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent. >>>> >>>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on >>>> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the >>>> call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she >>>> could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to >>>> select and activate items on the trackpad. to say the least, the >>>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and >>>> hung up. My husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot >>>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance. We were >>>> not successful. >>>> >>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement. I spent another >>>> half hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of >>>> which, he directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple >>>> Service dealer. My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do >>>> that. I just got back from there. They weren't able to fix it either. >>>> He said that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has >>>> recommended that I install the latest Big Sur update. I'm downloading it >>>> now. If that doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to >>>> using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which works just fine. >>>> >>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >>>> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>>> <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com>> >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/>> >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvision
Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air
;> >>>> On May 5, 2021, at 15:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry, Brad, but after this, I'm done! I've worked way too hard to >>>> make this computer work. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>>> On May 5, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Brad Snyder >>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net >>>>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 >>>>> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you report. >>>>> I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old >>>>> Mac to the new M1 Mac. >>>>> I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any difference, but >>>>> it can’t hurt either. >>>>> I suggest wiping the Mac, and starting over as a completely new Mac. >>>>> Then transfer your old data to the new Mac manually. >>>>> I think you will have a lot less trouble doing this. >>>>> >>>>> - Brad - >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 5, 2021, at 13:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I >>>>> would share my experience. >>>>> >>>>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache >>>>> since. When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine. But after >>>>> I migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent. >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour >>>>> on hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent >>>>> the call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so >>>>> she could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand >>>>> to select and activate items on the trackpad. to say the least, the >>>>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and >>>>> hung up. My husband and I spent most of last night trying to >>>>> troubleshoot the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted >>>>> assistance. We were not successful. >>>>> >>>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement. I spent another >>>>> half hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of >>>>> which, he directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple >>>>> Service dealer. My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do >>>>> that. I just got back from there. They weren't able to fix it either. >>>>> He said that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has >>>>> recommended that I install the latest Big Sur update. I'm downloading it >>>>> now. If that doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to >>>>> using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which works just fine. >>>>> >>>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW. >>>>> Best, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu >>>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>&
Moderator Note - Signatures and Politics etc on the List
Hi All, Firstly, please let me apologize for the delay in writing. My keeping up with each topic these days has been in fits and starts. I want to thank a hand full of kind souls who highlighted the recent troubling thread. -And I needed to make sure I read through the thread(s) in entirety before I spoke. Regrettably, we have people who have either left this list over the last couple of days or those who feel that that might be appropriate. To address at least some of what has happened here, I’d just like to say first of all, that here on this list, everyone is viewed and treated equally. Every race, creed and color is equal here. This goes for our attitudes and opinions as well. this does not mean however, that this list is a place to express all attitudes and opinions., This list is no place for political discussions, plain and simple. Please keep all discussions of politics and political themes off this list. This list is also no place for deliberately inflammatory speech. What this means, is that in the case of signatures, if someone has a sig that simplly states how they personally feel and is not aimed at anyone, then that sig is allowed. This is free speech. However, if that signature is being used as a way to get a public message out without actually coming right out and saying that message; and using this list as a vehicle to do so, then that is absolutely not allowed here. There is enough going on in the world today that people who would like to share their political views in discussion or debate should have ample forums in which to do so. This list is not one of them. This list is a technology list so that is where our discussions should be focused. If you feel you need to get a message out or feel that you cannot be respectful of others and their experiences or cannot at the very least, be polite, then this list is not the place for you. Please consider going somewhere else. Lastly, if someone offends you, please write them off-list. Please, whenever possible, be constructive and help de-escalate disagreements. We need to foster common ground and really help each other move ahead. We are all users of Apple products here with certain needs in our daily usage of these products. We share these needs as well as the daily victories that these products enable us to have. Sometimes we have set-backs as well. We share those too. We are one community here and even though this is just a mailing list in the grand scheme of things, we each provide help and support to each other here. That is our purpose. So please keep this in mind when we write to each other here. Please bear in mind that we are people here; we all have lives and stories. We are much more than screen names. Please remember this and act to promote dignaty, respect and politeness. It can really go a long way for all of us. thank you all so much for reading this. Please know that I appreciate you and this community that we have all built here. Let me wish you and yours well. Please have a great holiday for those who celebrate and a great weekend for everyone! Cheers! Cara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/793F23C2-8386-4256-894E-2D4589621769%40caraquinn.com.
Not quite a moderator note -was- Re: Happy Independence Day USA!
Hey All, Please take it easy, OK? I haven’t checked out the YT links yet but there is nothing wrong with the sentiments in these first couple of messages. Please don’t escalate this into a flame war. A member of my family is one of the very first women Marines so this day and what it represents is close to me too. No matter what your thoughts may be about this country just now and where we have been / are going, and whatever quote-unquote side you are on, we have a whole lot to be thankful for. Please remember that. Regarding the list, please remember what I said the other day. basically, this list is not a political soapbox and, alternatively, if something / someone offends you, either use your delete key and move on, or take it off-list. Please, let’s at least try to get along today and enjoy the holiday for those of us who celebrate. Happy 4th and I wish you and yours all well! Cheers! Cara > On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Oh, heck. Here we go again. I’m unsubscribing. > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jonathan Cohn mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: Happy Independence Day USA! > Date: July 4, 2020 at 9:45:08 AM PDT > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > > Excuse me, but this seems like a bunch of propaganda. Please stop I can > barely keep up with the discussions of which MacBook is bets. I don't have > time to listen to folks saying that the US is for peace, when we invade > coutries, dand attempt to corrupt elections. Oh, and on that last statement > read the book "Rigged" if you don't believe me. > Rigged: America, Russia, and One Hundred Years of Covert Electoral > Interference Hardcover – June > <https://www.amazon.com/Rigged-America-Hundred-Electoral-Interference/dp/0525659005>30, > 2020 > by David Shimer > <https://www.amazon.com/David-Shimer/e/B084WYCDTW/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1> > <> (Author) > 5.0 out of 5 <> > > Ronald Reagan's "America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light > guides freedom-loving people everywhere" sounds so romantic these days > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On Jul 4, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Barry Hadder > <mailto:bhad...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks Chuck. Same to you. >> Here is another clip that some here may appreciate. >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c7GqpoM6wU >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c7GqpoM6wU> >> >> >>> On Jul 4, 2020, at 10:24, CHUCK REICHEL >> <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Happy Independence Day USA! >>> Lets always remember; >>> The Freedom that Steve Jobs enjoyed here in the USA made it possible for >>> him to produce the first Macintosh. >>> This freedom wasn't free it was paid for by the "Blood" of many patriots >>> including my Dad! >>> Happy "244th" birthday USA! >>> Heres a youtube that captures the essence of the Fourth of July! >>> https://youtu.be/XtI8p-cVRvA <https://youtu.be/XtI8p-cVRvA> >>> Enjoy the celebration today! >>> Chuck & robin >>> GOD Bless the USA! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> and your owner is Cara Quinn - you >>> can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+
Re: Reviewing the Terminal window
Steve, you said you used VO plus down arrow. The key combo to interact is VO shift down arrow. Just checking to make sure you are actually interacting. :) Hope this helps. Cheers! Cara > On Aug 31, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: > > That's the odd thing. The system cursor is definitely in the Terminal window, > I interact with it (VO+Down Arrow), and then when I go into Quick Nav and > move around, I'm stuck in the title bar. If I don't go into Quick Nav, it's > just as if I pressed Up Arrow to recall previous shell commands. > > > On 8/31/2022 8:26 AM, Brandon Olivares wrote: >> Interact with the part that says “shell, text”. I use terminal every day and >> it works fine for me. >> >>> On Aug 31, 2022, at 8:25 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> >>> And I do that how? >>> >>> >>> On 8/30/2022 7:18 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> On 30/8/22 18:32, Steve Matzura wrote: >>>>> Has something changed in Terminal? I used to be able to review the screen >>>>> contents simply by interacting with the window and moving the cursor >>>>> around. Now, I can't get the cursor off the title bar any more. What, if >>>>> anything, has changed? >>>>> >>>> This should still work as it has done previously. Make sure you've >>>> actually interacted with the text of the terminal. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/d673ecb5-a856-0f0c-72cb-39a0c6d6f553%40noisynotes.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/F47C5E27-7136-46F9-BF55-9A67B84F95C7%40gmail.com.
Re: Coding apps for accessibility
Hi Phil, They can visit: https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/ <https://developer.apple.com/accessibility/> Good luck! Cheers! Cara > On Sep 6, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > My bank has been hassling me to help them to make their app accessible for > the blind. Where can I direct them in the Apple website for their coding > department to find all they need about how to code an app for Accessibility. > I know Apple has information on the developers website for coding for the > blind. Any help as to where I can send them. I told them if they wanted to > pay me the IT man’s salary then I’d be glad to help otherwise they can surely > do it for themselves sport is not rocket science and they don’t have to > reinvent the wheel. > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/1872E9B8-12EA-438C-A9D8-F4F3EA2028B6%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/739A863A-52E7-4BE6-BBC4-72B271D38C67%40gmail.com.
Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV?
Hi Donna and All, Crazy is right! :) I’ll go you one better though; I focus on the Play button for whatever media I am about to play and then turn VO off before I click it. This can be a little persnickety but it is super clean. I too, cannot stand all of the extra chattiness and really wish whomever is drafting the UX for the VO experience at Apple, would take a bit more time to think these sorts of things through. Just my .02. :) -Best of luck! Cheers! Cara > On Sep 14, 2022, at 5:34 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > That’s crazy! But, if that’s the solution, that’s what I’ll do. Thanks for > the confirmation, Mark. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Sep 13, 2022, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >> Hi Donna. >> >> E. T. is correct. >> >> When I start media playback and VO will not stop talking, I triple press the >> Home button on the Apple TV remote to immediately turn VO off; then, after >> a few seconds or minute, I triple press the Home button to turn it back on. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 1:49 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Getting rid of VO verbiage on Apple TV? >> >> Wow! That’s a really schlocky solution. >> Donna >> >> >>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 3:46 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, The Mac suffers from the same verbosity but obviously the solution for >>> me there is to simply move past the noise. On the Apple TV turning VO off >>> is easier. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>> revolution inevitable." >>> --John F. Kennedy >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 9/13/2022 1:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> Seriously? That’s the only way? >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>>> On Sep 13, 2022, at 3:24 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> After you press the play button, turn VO off. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent >>>>> revolution inevitable." >>>>> --John F. Kennedy >>>>> My e-Mail: >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> On 9/13/2022 1:04 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> Every time I start a movie or TV show on my Apple TV, VO speaks all >>>>>> kinds of garbage I could do without. Things like: “Subtitles” “Start >>>>>> Picture in Picture”. A current time stamp as well as time remaining. >>>>>> Often she does this over the start of what we’re trying to watch. How >>>>>> do I get rid of all of that? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach >>>>> mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can >>>>> reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>>> >>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/423c8518-17e6-4ff6-ab89-d0fa3f4099b8%40icloud.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the M
Re: Navigating app store
Hi Traci, My apologies for the lack of timelessness on this reply. :) I didn’t see a conclusive answer to this so I thought I’d chime in. The only way I’ve found so far, to get to the app info on the Mac App Store is to first interact with the app that you’re looking at and then use VO shift right arrow to begin moving through the letters of the app’s title. Once you see the first or second letter, use VO shift space and that should get you into the app listing where you can see the description, reviews etc. I’ve found that if an app is just under a story listing, this method may not work. In that case, it will get you into the story listing instead. If this happens, you can interact with the tool bar and go back from there. Sorry I can’t be of more help but I hope this does help. I’d love to hear others’ feedback on this as well. I’ve tried turning off cursor tracking and have had no improvement in this behavior. Are others having an easier time with this? Have a great day and Cheers! Cara > On Mar 7, 2023, at 4:45 PM, Traci Duncan wrote: > > Hi all, How do I get into the app’s description? It seems like my only option > is to get it or purchase it. I’ve tried interacting deeper and deeper, but > this doesn’t open up the description, reviews, etc. > > Thanks, > Traci > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9804BB06-AB70-4A59-BBFA-C86AF7D35BD8%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/330A6E60-DA6B-4BE6-8190-744003680B9F%40gmail.com.
Re: Face ID has stopped working systemwide on iPhone 13
Hi Phil, Apologies for the obvious question, but have you made sure that the glass protecting the camera and sensors is clean? When I hear of a camera issue with a consistent symptom like this, I would first check to see if there may be anything obstructing the camera / sensors. Hope this helps and apologies if you’ve already done this. Best of luck! Cheers! Cara > On May 30, 2023, at 8:20 AM, Phil Halton wrote: > > For some reason the Face ID feature on my iPhone 13 has stopped working > throughout the system, and on all apps that use it. I have done the > following: rebooted the phone, always a good first step. Then I went into > Face ID settings and reset Face ID, and made sure that requires attention was > not turned on. Still no joy, I cannot log into any of the apps that use Face > ID for some reason I just get the “face not recognized “message consistently. > Any ideas before I call Apple? > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/0CAFB90A-DA16-4986-8A96-369015D6BC84%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7678E324-2BCF-4B1E-853F-B462EBA9EF55%40gmail.com.
Re: Dropbox on Mac
Hi Janet, Is this a folder that you have created and shared with others? If it is, then they will need to accept the invitation that Dropbox sends them and add that folder to their Dropbox. At least this is how it worked last time I did it. I use Dropbox all the time but haven’t shared a folder in a couple of months. So hopefully this helps. Once they have added that folder to their Dropbox, you or they can add or delete files and it will synchronize for both of you. Again, hope this helps. Cheers! Cara > On Jun 7, 2023, at 2:02 PM, Janet Ingber wrote: > > Thanks for all the great answer. I did get Dropbox installed on my Mac. I > can’t figure out how to send a link so someone can share a file. Also, I > thought if I were using a shared folder, putting a file in the folder would > automatically make it accessible with the other people who have access to the > shared folder. Apparently I’m wrong or am doing something wrong. Any help is > greatly appreciated. > > Janet > >> On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:26 AM, Herbie Allen wrote: >> >> Make sure the other computer is also sinking and on the same account. >> >>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 03:46, >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dropbox on Mac for me isn't sinking data. It says it sinks, but when I use >>> another computer cannot find the files. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On >>> Behalf Of Herbie Allen >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:22 PM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Dropbox on Mac >>> >>> From the Website, download the Dropbox app and that will make your life >>> much simpler. The one thing they did break recently is the way you access >>> it through the Menu Extras. You now have to route your VO cursor with >>> Command VO F5 and then VO Shift space, but that’s Livable. Also, I find >>> Chrome works better for the site when doing things like recovering deleted >>> files. >>> >>>> On Jun 6, 2023, at 20:10, Janet Ingber wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> Does anyone know of an accessible Dropbox app for the Mac? I’m not crazy >>>> about using the Dropbox website to upload files. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, >>>> Janet >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark >>>> at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>>> >>>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/224BA334-4AA2-401D-BCDC-2321C3A59D02%40gmail.com. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view t
Re: Unable to read tables in Safari
Hi Donna and All, Just for your reference, there are icons on this page to change the view. I clicked on the table icon and it now shows a standard table which seems to work fine with VO and Safari. If you navigate down to the first heading on the page where it says Full list of TV shows on Hulu and then navigate to the right with VO arrows, you should see the following: Here’s Hulu’s complete library of TV shows. Click “Sort By Default” to rank this list by popular, IMDB score, release date, or alphabetical. Click “Filter” to restrict the list by movies, TV shows, release year, or genre. etc. Then you will come to the filter arrow icon. Next you will come to the sort icon and then finally to the view. This should show what you have selected as the current view, so in my case, this showed the grid. Right after this are the icons you can click on to actually change the view. I clicked on the table icon and the page then shows a standard table which VO seems to read fine. hope this helps! :) Have a great day! Cheers! Cara > On Jun 25, 2023, at 8:39 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > For some reason, my original reply to Michael was sent via a different > address. Here it is again. > > Here’s an example of a page where I can’t read the table. You have to scroll > down a lot, but eventually, you get to a grid, which I presume contains a > list of shows on Hulu. I cannot read anything in that grid. > https://reelgood.com/tv/source/hulu > Cheers, > Donna > >> On Jun 24, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Michael Babcock > <mailto:michael@payown.media>> wrote: >> >> Hi Donna, >> >> I'll second that I have issues with tables in some instances in Safari. >> >> It would be interesting if anyone can share some site that they experience >> issues with to see if other people are, as maybe it's a configuration issue >> that some of us have not made an order to navigate tables. All of the tables >> I have problems with our internal tools that I cannot share access to, >> however, it does pop up occasionally, and this is what pushed me to actually >> purchase parallels. I wanted to actually work, and could not do that in >> Safari, or edge with VoiceOver on the Mac, as the table would not allow you >> to use your VoiceOver plus up and down, left and right keys in order to >> navigate it at all. And, disabling the ability to group tables had no impact. > > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7E8E0DEC-3D5B-4573-A945-B120BEFE880F%40me.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/7E8E0DEC-3D5B-4573-A945-B120BEFE880F%40me.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/019F4CF4-E4A2-4677-9D04-2791238E902B%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone ever used a MIFI device?
Hi Donna, Not sure if this will help, but I’ve used a couple of these over the last 12 years or so. I have an older Verizon Jetpack now. You should be able to log on to your device like you would with any other router, once you have its IP address. It’s been several years since I configured this one, so I’m going on memory, but I think the only thing I needed sighted assistance for was to display the device’s IP address from the menus. Once I had that, and connected it to my computer, I was able to log on to it and configure the network from Safari. If you’re just going to use the wifi functionality, it’s really a set and forget sort of affair, so once you do have it set up, you should only need to turn it on or off when you need the network. I’m only using mine specifically for its wifi network but it can do more, which is only available from the front panel, so not accessible. If you need specifics on this model, just let me know and I can follow up and also detail each step. I’ve had this one now for something like 9 years and it has been absolutely excellent. Hope this helps at least somewhat. Cheers! Cara > On Aug 9, 2023, at 3:14 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi all, > > Due to our incredibly lousy internet service, I decided to rent a mini from > my employer. They sent an Orbic Speed, and it turns out you have to use the > display screen to do absolutely everything. Does anyone know if there is a > wifi device that is more accessible? > TIA, > Donna > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C4086648-699F-4215-94F5-5C3AEE913A6C%40me.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3631F77E-8480-47EE-BCAB-6EC0D999C493%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone ever used a MIFI device?
Ah, yes, the user name / password! I think mine was written on a sticker on mine. I remember the IP address being displayed from the menu though. Cheers! Cara > On Aug 9, 2023, at 4:04 PM, Shai wrote: > > Hello Donna, > I have used a mifi device before. I'm not sure what you're trying to > do, but if all you are trying to do is to get connected with it, then > there should be a button to turn it on and the name/password of the > device will be displayed on the screen. > You could then use a visual interpretation service to glean that > information to become connected with it. It is similar to connecting > to any other wifi access point it is a wifi hotspot similar to your > phone with a sim card or ESIM. > > > > On 8/9/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Due to our incredibly lousy internet service, I decided to rent a mini from >> my employer. They sent an Orbic Speed, and it turns out you have to use the >> display screen to do absolutely everything. Does anyone know if there is a >> wifi device that is more accessible? >> TIA, >> Donna >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C4086648-699F-4215-94F5-5C3AEE913A6C%40me.com. >> > > > -- > Shai Wolman > Wolman Assistive > (619)894-6587 > An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults! > To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at > wolmanassistive.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAL%2BOAfYXm%2BGxd-a6HHz86FcK1%2BS9CddDZiSVgqRcdj6_GNustg%40mail.gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/836A8222-BFAE-429A-8AA4-C90F3D804F47%40gmail.com.
Re: Anyone ever used a MIFI device?
Donna, that sounds like a nightmare! I’m not sure what the current crop of Jetpack’s do to establish a connection but I’m imagining what you’re describing with your device is really a security measure. If you still need any more details on this device, just let me know, otherwise, please feel free to disregard my notes. I did not see your later message when I sent mine. Best of luck anyway, and please let us know how you get on. Cheers! Cara > On Aug 9, 2023, at 4:08 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > It looks like, with this particular device, in order to connect a device, you > have to select it from a menu system on the display of the MIFI. I guess I > was expecting to be able to connect from the device, just like I would to a > wireless network. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Aug 9, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Shai wrote: >> >> Hello Donna, >> I have used a mifi device before. I'm not sure what you're trying to >> do, but if all you are trying to do is to get connected with it, then >> there should be a button to turn it on and the name/password of the >> device will be displayed on the screen. >> You could then use a visual interpretation service to glean that >> information to become connected with it. It is similar to connecting >> to any other wifi access point it is a wifi hotspot similar to your >> phone with a sim card or ESIM. >> >> >> >> On 8/9/23, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Due to our incredibly lousy internet service, I decided to rent a mini from >>> my employer. They sent an Orbic Speed, and it turns out you have to use the >>> display screen to do absolutely everything. Does anyone know if there is a >>> wifi device that is more accessible? >>> TIA, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/C4086648-699F-4215-94F5-5C3AEE913A6C%40me.com. >>> >> >> >> -- >> Shai Wolman >> Wolman Assistive >> (619)894-6587 >> An accessibility services company providing training to children and adults! >> To get in touch or for more information, please visit my website at >> wolmanassistive.com >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/CAL%2BOAfYXm%2BGxd-a6HHz86FcK1%2BS9CddDZiSVgqRcdj6_GNustg%40mail.gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's p
Re: new member and new to the Mac
Hi Jess! Welcome and congratulations on your new Mac! I also am a big fan of MacBook Airs. I really like them a lot. There are a lot of friendly and highly intelligent folks on this list so I hope you find what you need and enjoy the list! Glad to have you with us and have a terrific day! Cheers! Cara > On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:04 PM, Jessica Barr wrote: > > Hello. My name is Jessica (or Jess). I recently got a MacBook Air, which is > my first Mac. For quite a while I relied on just my iPhone or my braille > notetaker to do things, but I decided it would be good to have a Mac as well. > I'm looking forward to learning from the people on this list. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/124063492.0.1695344668736%40localhost. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/8AEFF72E-5D09-4AB2-A0BA-0C6DF73FDA96%40gmail.com.
MIT Accessibility Club Blind Survey
Hi All, My apologies for the cross-post. As a note, While I do know folks who are affiliated with this group, I am not, so I have no more info on this project than the below message. I wanted to share this in case anyone is interested. Thanks so much and have a terrific weekend! Cheers! Cara — The MIT Accessibility Club is looking for feedback from blind and visually impaired users of tech to help them understand some of the problems with accessibility. The club works with disabled individuals to solve problems in a hack-a-thon style using software and hardware. The survey can be found at: https://forms.gle/K5BUnM3r6rEnzJv66 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/3F6CAB86-3665-4F92-A6AA-E635346B9008%40gmail.com.
Re: I've paired my game control with my Mac, but nothing is picking it up.
Just to add my .02 here, I’ve reliably used Dual Sense (PS5) and XBox 1 and Series X / S controllers wirelessly with Mac. Occasionally the connection process via bluetooth can be a bit fiddly but once connected, the Mac remembers the controllers and usually connects again without a hassle. Jessica, I’ve not used any third-party controllers so I can’t specifically comment on that, however, I’d suggest getting a PS5 (dual sense) controller or XBox controller specifically for series X or S if you can. Joseph, regarding the issues with updating drivers, have you tried updating your XBox controller directly through a console or via the XBox app on Windows? Sorry I can’t be of more help to either of you. Best of luck though and please do write back to the list with any progress you make on these issues. This may help others as well. Good luck and have a great day! :) Cheers! Cara > On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:52 AM, joseph hodge wrote: > > I think it might be picky as the only thing I found that honestly works > reliably is a PlayStation 4 controller wired in through my USB to USB-C. > Everything else tends to just not ever really map correctly or get > recognized. Especially running Bluetooth. When using my Xbox controller And > trying to Bluetooth it to the Mac it tells me I need to update some thing but > I can never quite figure out what driver needs to be updated. As when I go to > Microsoft and find the driver, I’m already up-to-date. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 8, 2024, at 10:34 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: >> >> So I think I’ve finally found a wireless gaming controller that stated on >> Amazon, would work on my Mac, and also came with a clip so you could somehow >> play games on your iPhone. The Brand is something I’ve never heard of >> “Aghi,) but when pairing it with my Mac, it picks it up as Xbox 1. So I >> thought all was good to go until I tried running it on multiple emulators, >> and Retroarch now completely changes its menu structure, now only showing me >> what cores I have installed, and eventually just stops talking altogether, >> and eventually seems to freeze, and in Genesis+, I’m just not seeing an >> option under input to add/remap the control itself, only a general remapping >> option, which I accidentally remap buttons I don’t want to simply by trying >> to scroll through the table itself. Am I missing a step here, or is the Mac >> just generally fussy about what controls it will and won’t play nice with? >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/64F3CF3A-FA68-4C8E-86AF-94E7BD565E67%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/D770885A-685C-436C-AD7D-3C2184564D95%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any
Re: Unable to Boot into New Startup Volume
Hi ET, Have you tried running first aid with disk utility from either volume? I would try this first. If that fails, (not knowing any other specifics of the situation) if it were me, I’d back up both volumes to time machine, boot into recovery mode and then perform first aid on the entire drive from there. I don’t have it in front of me just at the minute, but you may also be able to see the entire drive in Disk Utility from within one of the volumes without needing to go into recovery mode. I would absolutely make sure you have working backups before you do any of this though. :) Very best of luck and please keep us up to date with what you find in your research or what you find that works. Cheers! Cara > On May 1, 2024, at 6:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Google seems to point to the master boot record (MBR). Anyone have > experience with this function? > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > -Helen Keller > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 5/1/2024 2:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> Hello, >>Having installed Ventura in an APFS volume and set it up, if I do a >> startup and go to the Sonoma volume, I cannot subsequently start up to >> Ventura. What got broken here and can it be repaired? Thanks very much. >> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >> -Helen Keller >> My e-Mail: >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: > mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9dac2548-352e-4d93-a7f2-20cba22d6964%40icloud.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/A2DA85BB-7814-4844-A9FF-33762B6E7D24%40gmail.com.
Re: Unable to Boot into New Startup Volume
Sorry to hear that. Can you boot into the Ventura volumes from recovery mode? If you can, can you then set your startup disk to your Sonoma volume from within Ventura? Cheers! Cara > On May 2, 2024, at 7:03 PM, ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote: > > Cara, >Have run First Aid from Disk Utility. No go. Same in Recovery mode. No go. > Now both Ventura volumes will not boot. Sonoma still works but I need to get > Ventura up and running. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > Proofread carefully to see if you any words out. > My e-Mail: > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > >> On May 2, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Cara Quinn wrote: >> >> Hi ET, >> >> Have you tried running first aid with disk utility from either volume? I >> would try this first. >> >> If that fails, (not knowing any other specifics of the situation) if it were >> me, I’d back up both volumes to time machine, boot into recovery mode and >> then perform first aid on the entire drive from there. I don’t have it in >> front of me just at the minute, but you may also be able to see the entire >> drive in Disk Utility from within one of the volumes without needing to go >> into recovery mode. >> >> I would absolutely make sure you have working backups before you do any of >> this though. :) >> >> Very best of luck and please keep us up to date with what you find in your >> research or what you find that works. >> >> Cheers! >> >> Cara >> >> >> >>> On May 1, 2024, at 6:55 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> wrote: >>> >>> Google seems to point to the master boot record (MBR). Anyone have >>> experience with this function? >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>> -Helen Keller >>> My e-Mail: >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> On 5/1/2024 2:21 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> Having installed Ventura in an APFS volume and set it up, if I do a >>>> startup and go to the Sonoma volume, I cannot subsequently start up to >>>> Ventura. What got broken here and can it be repaired? Thanks very much. >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." >>>> -Helen Keller >>>> My e-Mail: >>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/macvisionaries/9dac2548-352e-4d93-a7f2-20cba22d6964%40icloud.com. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. You can reach mark at: >> mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view t
Saving an attached txt file from within Messages on Mac
HI All, Hope you are all having a wonderful day. Also, my good wishes go out to those in Italy and their families. Okay, so I shared a file with myself, using the Messages app. I wanted to simply save this file to my Mac from within the Messages app. I.E. I received this file on my Mac and want to save this file from within the message. I have done this before with files but for some reason Voiceover and the Mac seem to be behaving like PITAs for me today. :) So I am wondering if I have missed a step or something here. I see the message with the attached file. Voiceover sees this as a group with which I can interact. I interact with the group and then see the file name and extension both also shown as groups. If I interact again, each of these groups are just shown as text titles. I.E. I only see the title of the file or the title of the extension. (which is in this case, txt) I have tried doing VO space at each level of interaction and have also tried bringing up a context menu (with VO shift m) and only see the option to clear my chat. I have also tried routing the mouse to the particular group and clicking / double clicking my trackpad and also no luck there either. Lastly, I have tried using VO shift space and the only way I can get anything to happen here is to do this twice. I.E. to simulate a double click with Voiceover. When I do this, QuickLook comes up and I only have sharing options and the option to open in Text Edit. I have no option to simply save the file. In this case, I did open the file in Text Edit and then saved it but this seems like a ridiculous amount of work just to save a text file from a message. What am I missing here? Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :) thanks so much to you all and I hope you are having a great day! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Saving an attached txt file from within Messages on Mac
Hi John, thanks bunches but I see nothing like what you are saying here. I do have a file transfer window but there is no scroll area or ‘show in Finder’ button. The only thing I see in that window is the file name itself and the type of the extension. Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese wrote: You need to use the file transfer window to save the file in a Message. You should be able to command-accent to it or choose it from the Window Menu. There, you will find a File Transfer list scroll area. Interact and you will find the transfer you have. The, Show in Finder, button should save the file for you. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:12 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > HI All, > > Hope you are all having a wonderful day. > > Also, my good wishes go out to those in Italy and their families. > > Okay, so I shared a file with myself, using the Messages app. I wanted to > simply save this file to my Mac from within the Messages app. > > I.E. I received this file on my Mac and want to save this file from within > the message. > > I have done this before with files but for some reason Voiceover and the Mac > seem to be behaving like PITAs for me today. :) So I am wondering if I have > missed a step or something here. > > I see the message with the attached file. Voiceover sees this as a group with > which I can interact. > > I interact with the group and then see the file name and extension both also > shown as groups. If I interact again, each of these groups are just shown as > text titles. I.E. I only see the title of the file or the title of the > extension. (which is in this case, txt) > > I have tried doing VO space at each level of interaction and have also tried > bringing up a context menu (with VO shift m) and only see the option to clear > my chat. > > I have also tried routing the mouse to the particular group and clicking / > double clicking my trackpad and also no luck there either. > > Lastly, I have tried using VO shift space and the only way I can get anything > to happen here is to do this twice. I.E. to simulate a double click with > Voiceover. > > When I do this, QuickLook comes up and I only have sharing options and the > option to open in Text Edit. I have no option to simply save the file. > > In this case, I did open the file in Text Edit and then saved it but this > seems like a ridiculous amount of work just to save a text file from a > message. > > What am I missing here? > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :) > > thanks so much to you all and I hope you are having a great day! > > Cheers! > > Cara > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn -
To anyone attending CSUN
Hello All, I just wanted to send out a quick note to say that if anyone here is attending CSUN, I'd love to meet you! Please do feel free to stop by the Looktel booth and say hello! I will be attending some of the talks so will not always be there but will be there a fair bit. So please do stop by and say hi! K? You're all a wonderful bunch and I'd love to make your acquaintance in person! :) Have a terrific night / day wherever you are, and I look forward to saying hello! Smiles, Cara :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
My thanks to those at CSUN and on MacVisionaries and VIPhone!…
Hello All! I'd just like to take a minute to say thank you and acknowledge those listers whom took time and said hello at CSUN. I saw a whole lot of support for both these lists there, not only from listers themselves, but from venders / speakers as well. So to MacVisionaries and VIPhone members, know that we are known. :) You're being heard and know that what you say matters. To those I had the pleasure of meeting, thank you! -And I wish we could have spent more time chatting and getting to know one another. To those on these lists I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet, be afraid, be very afraid!… ;) lol! just kidding of course… :) To those here, I haven't met yet, I look forward to more of your posts and interactions here. -Not only with me, but among yourselves as well. I always say that you are what makes these groups as successful as they are and I truly mean it! Without you we wouldn't have a community. So please continue to contribute your intelligence, your wit, and your kind assistance and respect to each other. when you do this, these qualities are what these communities become and reflect. So thank you All! Have a terrific day / evening, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Is the I phone 4s worth it?
Jenny, I completely agree with Buddy here. I actually test side-by-side every day with an iPhone 4 and 4S and even there, the speed difference is pretty obvious. So yes, you'll notice a marked improvement to say the very least, if you choose to upgrade from your 3GS to a 4S. Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) On Mar 6, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi, In a word, yes. And not just because of Siri. You'll notice a definite improvement in responsiveness over the 3GS. That on its own is worth the cost to upgrade. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Mar 6, 2012, at 8:56 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: > My 3GS is starting to act a little weird and I have the option to upgrade > phones. Is the 4s really worth the money. If f you have one and you have an > opinion please feel free to share it privately so we don'tcclog up the list. > I will say that I use it for everything Sao it'll need to handle a lot of use > with most of it's functions. > > Thanks for your help in advance. > > > > Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks > > On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Yes, I did a reminder; when I get time I need to delete all the extra ones I >> have right now. When I did this reminder with Siri without VoiceOver in >> memory, I was a little skeptical that I could get it done. However, luckily >> she said if I wanted it and responded to "Yes." I have had the screen come >> up and have ahd to split tap on Confirm. If she would respond to Yes, that >> would solve that. >> >> Regards, >> Gigi >> >> On Mar 5, 2012, at 9:16 PM, Jessica wrote: >> >>> I actually noticed that as well, but didn't disable voiceover, because I >>> didn't think that was causing it. I always wondered what was causing it to >>> get so hung up though; appreciate the tidbit. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Gigi >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:02 PM >>> Subject: Siri and voice over coexisting not peacefully all the time >>> Hi guys >>> I just had an experience which I would like to bring up. I am having a lot >>> of trouble with pressing the home key to get Siri, and basically crashing >>> Siri. I started turning voiceover off to see if that would help and Siri >>> does work better without voiceover in memory. The only problem might be if >>> Siri brings up a screen that you have to use an voiceover is off. What >>> solutions have any of you guys down for this? >>> Regards >>> Gigi >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: My thanks to those at CSUN and on MacVisionaries and VIPhone!…
Hi David and all; The subscription process is the way it is because it prevents bots / spammers, or at least does a pretty good job. :) Yes, it is a bit slow, and for that I apologize. -As I said though, the benefits for filtering out spam are quite good. On the subject of Skype / Google Hang-Outs, that sounds like a great idea, and listers are, of course, really encouraged to connect up off the list if they so choose. So the two options you mention might work really well for people. Anyway, thanks for your note and keep enjoying the group! Smiles, Cara :) On Mar 6, 2012, at 6:11 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Yes, I think this lists helps many many out here :-) But a few things: - The subscription process should be done easier, so that people don't need to wait for being approved by an admin. - What about trying out the concept of Hangouts on Google+ in near future? Skype could also be a solution though... -David On 06.03.2012, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hello All! > > I'd just like to take a minute to say thank you and acknowledge those > listers whom took time and said hello at CSUN. I saw a whole lot of support > for both these lists there, not only from listers themselves, but from > venders / speakers as well. > > So to MacVisionaries and VIPhone members, know that we are known. :) You're > being heard and know that what you say matters. > > To those I had the pleasure of meeting, thank you! -And I wish we could have > spent more time chatting and getting to know one another. To those on these > lists I haven't had the pleasure of meeting yet, be afraid, be very afraid!… > ;) lol! just kidding of course… :) To those here, I haven't met yet, I look > forward to more of your posts and interactions here. -Not only with me, but > among yourselves as well. > > I always say that you are what makes these groups as successful as they are > and I truly mean it! Without you we wouldn't have a community. So please > continue to contribute your intelligence, your wit, and your kind assistance > and respect to each other. when you do this, these qualities are what these > communities become and reflect. > > So thank you All! > > Have a terrific day / evening, wherever you may be!… > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- Med vennlig hilsen / Best regards David Hole ! Veni, Vidi, Vici Phone: (+47)41121883 e-mail: balubathebr...@gmail.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/david.philip.hole Google+: https://plus.google.com/100753553426691598309/posts Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/DeamonDavid Skype: BalubaTheBrave LinkedIn: http://no.linkedin.com/pub/david-hole/22/898/54 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
TUAW article with some strong opinions on Recognizer
Hi All, thought some might find this interesting… -Thoughts?… Recognizer on TUAW (some pretty strong opinions) http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/06/hands-on-with-looktel-recognizer-visual-recognition-through-an/ Have a lovely evening All! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions
Daniela, first off, a big congratulations to you! Have you thought of contacting Apple accessibility? Perhaps they may actually have some of their own documents or material from their own site prepared into a presentational format that they'd be willing to share with you. -It may be a longshot but I personally think it's certainly worth a try. Yes?… Smiles, Cara :) On Apr 3, 2012, at 10:01 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hello all: I have just received an invitation from a very important an mexican institution to give a talk on Apple's accessibility solutions. I know what I would like to say, but I am missing support materials, like keynotes, videos, etc which can help to illustrate my talk. The conference will be held in Mexico on may 3 and I have not support from a sighted person who can help me to prepare keynote that looks well. So, mi question is that if you know something or have any materials about this topic that could be of help? Thank you very much for your help! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note -was- Re: OS X Mountain Lion
Hi all, as is said below here, let's make sure and keep this topic closed and move on. Piracy is not condoned here and those who promote it are unwelcome. So please steer this discussion back to where it belongs; legitimate legal uses of the Mac and Apple products. Thanks bunches! Cara :) On Apr 20, 2012, at 3:11 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: I think it's best that we as members close this discussion as this will cause further harm to our forum. Let us draw a line over the matter and close it. though I am not a moderator, I'm involved with apple so am asking that this stop please. lew On 20 Apr 2012, at 11:09, Scott Howell wrote: > You are so wrong you have no idea. There is no public beta and you do sign a > nondisclosure agreement when you are a beta tester either invited or pay to > be a part of the developer program. Get your facts straight before posting > such piffle. Clearly you have no clue what an NDA is about. > > On Apr 20, 2012, at 12:35 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > >> Many people know that information, because is available in the Apple pages >> where you can download the beta. Anybody can register for it, so don't >> worry, there is not a disclosure agreement broken. >> >> SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. >> MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. >> EN TWITTER: @macneticos >> NUESTRO BLOG EN: >> www.macneticus.blogspot.com >> Y EL PODCAST EN:` >> http://macneticos.libsyn.com >> >> >> >> El 20/04/2012, a las 05:15, Ray Foret Jr escribió: >> >>> Hey, if you signed on to an NDA, (non disclosure agreement) you WERE, NOT, >>> SUPPOSED, TO, TELL, US, ANYTHING, ABOUT, THAT!!! This is something I take >>> very very seriously, and, so should you!!! >>> >>> Noughty noughty noughty!!! >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 19, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Daniel Macdonald wrote: >>> hello List, OS X Mountain Lion. it is quite like iOS, with a lot of the same apps. one aspect that is different is software update. OS X Mountain Lion. the software update is done through the app store, much like iOS. just want to pass along I am . using -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: blindmicemegamall movie vault and illegal file-sharing allegation
Hi All, let me remind you that promoting / discussing illegal activity of any kind is not only unwelcome here but prohibited if you'd like to remain a member of this list. So please, let's separate out the MovieVault aspects of this thread from the on-topic discussion of iPads in the classroom and move the MovieVault topic elsewhere. Let's do this now… Thanks a bunch people! You rock! Smiles, Cara :) On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Jenny Keller wrote: Oh please, they may "have to", but that doesn't mean they won't find a loop whole in order to get away with not doing it. Jenny On Apr 29, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: > Hi all. > > > AGain, how can education departments in the USA buy products when they are > not 508 rehab accessible? I thought all governments department in the USa had > to ensure the product is accessible based upon this rehab act or does this > only apply for federal? > > > There is 3 ways to change the thinking of business: > > 1. Demonstrate a market. > 2. Take them to court. Not always a good solution. > 3. Blind people develop a investment fund which invests into proactive > companies in the accessible area. > 4. Awareness education. > > > Oops, I said 3, but there is > > Sean > On 29/04/2012, at 7:24 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> the issue is not the iPad itself, it is the apps that companies develop for >> it. most of those companies don't consider us much of a market (either by >> public perception or flawed fiscal analysis). there had already been one >> debacle involving a pad type computer (kindle) and a major institution >> (Arizona State University) and it was found that the blind were >> specifically locked out. the same is happening with iPad apps (even though >> the SDK tools and API are freely available and easy to incorporate, >> companies will not concede). Its a never ending struggle as those who think >> they know better never do and saddle us with their utter stupidity. there is >> a reason they call this "the tyranny of the stupid". >> >> -eric >> . >> On Apr 28, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> Hi Christine, >>> >>> I'm perplexed. How do you see the push to have iPads in classrooms as >>> something that leaves the blind/VI student out? If anything, I see that as >>> something that better enables us to participate, thanks to the fact that >>> Apple has made the iPad a fully accessible device. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:36 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: >>> With all due respect, Scott, laws which disparately impact certain groups or classes of people have been flouted through civil disobedience since the introduction of legal systems, e.g., civil rights, disability rights, employment rights, etc. The United States might not exist were it not for disobeying laws. I am an attorney, and it continues to amaze me how slowly the U.S. is moving to accommodate disability, and how snail-paced the societal shift in attitudes toward us has been. and it seems that whenever a company like Apple makes great strides in accommodating blindness off the shelf, plenty of other technologies come along and do not bother to incorporate us into their equation. So many educational apps, for example, are not accessible, though they could be, and given the push now to have iPads in classrooms, once again blind, visually impaired, and otherwise print-disabled students will be left out. Apple moves us two steps forward, and "progress" (for others) moves us three steps back. I should be able to turn on a television, flip a switch, or turn on a transmitter, and get descriptions. I should be able to access books on the Nook or the Kindle, not just iBooks. I cannot express, and I am sure others here agree, the happiness I feel when a new release or best-selling publication is available on iBooks. (Incidentally, if a book is available on iBooks and on bookshare.org, I purchase the book. Yet, I have lost quite a lot of money as a published author -- as soon as my book was published, I sent a copy to bookshare.org; it was more important to me to have it available at the same time to the blind and print-disabled. The Authors Guild apparently does not care about such access, despite the fact that they would actually get money from us.) I would happily go to the movies more and happily purchase audio-described movies through iTunes if they were available. Even movies which are released with audio description are not always sold through movie resellers -- goodness knows I have tried. To date, I have only located The Incredible Hulk, from 2008, which I purchased for my son. Even Apple could do more. It could strengthen its requirements for apps. It has provided developers with the means to make their apps VoiceOver acc
Moderator note - questions on the list and getting along as adults
Hello everyone; It's late here and I will give this recent list situation the attention it deserves. However, may I please ask, until tomorrow, that you all please consider being the adults that you are and taking the opportunity to get along with eachother. Here's what this means. • think before you respond. Please don't just retaliate if you feel like you weren't understood. • Be calm in your responses. When you do respond to someone, please explain yourself clearly and calmly. • Avoid name-calling or accusing others of anything. This is not your right here. and this applies to everyone. • If you think you're 'right' in a particular discussion, then be comfortable with that and know that you don't need to tell others this on the list. Just be content… Okay, please keep the above in mind. I'll address this issue in-depth tomorrow. Good night All and please be kind and respectful of eachother… Thank you, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: Leaving the list.
Hello Lew, for the record, and as a note to others here, I not only appreciate off-list support but encourage such support. While this list is an excellent place to share information and ideas for working with the Mac and Apple products in general, certain situations can greatly benefit and more easily be handled in a private, one-on-one communication. What is not helpful is listers posing as moderators. This only succeeds in muddying the waters here and in worst cases, can also cause or contribute to arguments and/or flaming. This is not appropriate here. Lew, to yourself and others, whom are experienced in moderating other lists or as listers here; -this is something I'm sure you're already familiar with. So this should make good sense to you… So once again, if people would like to increase the helpfulness of this list, please do feel free to participate here as you all already do, and should you need to follow up with someone or offer more specific personalized support that you feel may not be something that every lister here may not need or benefit from, then by all means please do get in touch off the list. This includes critiques or problems you may have with people here. This is not the place for disagreements or playing moderator of others. Take this sort of thing off this list. If you really do have issues that you seem not to be able to resolve, then I'm always available. caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com However, I'm not your therapist or your referee. I moderate this list as a labor of love so to speak. I don't get paid for this and I do lead a busy life. so please bare this in mind. I may take a while to get back with you and I also may not offer the answers you think I should offer you. Having said this though, know that I will honor what you have to say and I will listen. Whether or not we see eye-to-eye, I will hear what you have to say… So having said all of this, Lew, make no mistake, your contributions here as well as every other listers' are something I value. -And whether you choose to stay or go is up to you. You certainly are welcome if you'd like to be here. This goes for everyone. I'm not your parent and though I currently moderate this list, I'm also part of this list. I too am a lister as you all are. We work with the same technology here and we share in this list to benefit from the assistance and support of eachother. No one of us is any better than any other and we are all unique. We have different comfort levels with what we do and what we know. -And we're all here to help eachother. Yes? Please bear this in mind when you post here. We're all equals here and we all have a right to contribute here. Please respect eachother… Thanks for reading and I wish you all a wonderful day / evening, wherever you may be!… Sincerely, Cara :) On May 6, 2012, at 1:02 AM, Lewis Alexander wrote: Hello folks. Sorry to write this message here but I am officially leaving the list. After yesterday's incident and the attitude of certain people on this list and my time spent trying to deal with the matter in the hope of DECENT resolution, I am leaving the list. As an experienced, qualified engineer, I spend my time both on list and off list solving various problems relating to voiceover and OS X as well as hardware issues and I hope that my time and experience has been appreciated by those who I have assisted. In relation to administrative support on this list, due to in some parts, the noted absence of the moderator, I have done my level best to resolve such issues both on and off list but from an email received this morning, the moderator clearly does not appreciate the support I have contributed nor the time placed in such matters. If there are any members of this list who wish for my assistance off list, I may be reached off list at edwardredf...@sky.com as my direct work address yours Sincerely. Edward Lewis Redfern. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: Why can't someone just answer my Ical question without confusing me with a pod cast?
Hi all, first off, this is not targeted toward anyone of you. Please let's close this thread now. If people would like to offer real assistance without social disagreement on manners and such, then please do feel free to start a new topic and keep it informational. Remember, this list is not a place to air arguments or issues you may have with others. If you don't like how someone answers a question or how someone poses one then simply refrain from writing back. Keep this sort of thing off the list. When you respond here do it with an informational post please keep social commentary out of it… This is not to say be automatons,:) but this is to say, do be aware that your words affect others; and in ways you may not expect. so please do the best you can to show only respect here. I ask you this so we can keep this list the wonderful, friendly informational resource we've all come to know and enjoy. K? Thanks to you all for reading and do have a wonderful day / evening! Smiles, Cara :) On May 6, 2012, at 2:56 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, No doubt your post has much good advice. But I think you should read the thread from the beginning before choosing sides in who was rude and why. Its hard enough to judge intent with just the written word without cheating yourself of reading the entire thread to get the context. etc. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On May 6, 2012, at 5:42 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi, > In defence of Jenny, let me say this, in many, not all but many cases at > least on the IPhone, there simply is no built in help or documentation for > the program one is working with, at least that's my experience. I have seen > a lot of cases, though i can't think of any at the moment where there's no > reference to any documentation whatsoever in the app. > At the risk of being flamed to bits, let me say that i have come late to this > thread so may not know the whole story here, but answering a plee for help in > an almost rude manner in my book is uncalled for. I left the Linux world > because of that attitude, and even though it didn't hit me directly i felt > sorry for the newbies that asked questions and got almost rude answers that > in short said "rtfm". Yes surely Google among other sources is your friend, > but if you don't even begin to know what you are going to search for, how can > you then begin searching? We have all been newbies in the beginning and have > had different difficulty levels and different ways of tackling a problem. One > bit of advice that i have followed and that has proven useful to me during my > explorations of the graphical interface is this: If you want to learn to know > your app, firstly take a look at its menus. There you will see what the app > can do for you and you also in the bargain get the hot keys for different > situations. > Ok i'm off my soap box now and putting on flame proof clothes just in case. > lol > > /Krister > > 5 maj 2012 kl. 22:28 skrev Ray Foret Jr: > >> I do believe that this is getting a little bit out of hand here. Jenny, My >> best advice to you is this. The best way to learn to use any app is to just >> jump in and make use of it and be willing to make a mistake a time or two. >> How else you gonna learn anything about it? My best advice for seaking help >> is that you consult the built in help for the apps you want help with when >> mere use and exploration seem not to get it done for you. Honestly, it's >> not that we mind helping you, but, to be spoon fed the information all the >> time is, quite frankly, not the best way to learn; indeed, it is most likely >> the worst. I would suggest that you take a step back from this and keep in >> mind the points that Scot raises here. He does have some good points to >> make, and, I think that if you just step back from the emotion of the moment >> and give things a try, you will shock yourself at what you will learn and >> how quickly. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> Facebook: >> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >> >> >> >> On May 5, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Jenny Keller wrote: >> >>> If I knew where to look for that information I wouldn't inconvenience >>> anyone with my question. >>> >>> As far as wanting to be spoon fed, I can't help if I've tried to learn >>> things by pod casts and it completely overwhelms me and I end up more >>> frustrated and confused than I started out. >>> >>> If that's the way people feel on this list, then tell me then, what is this >>> list for then if we can't ask simple questions and get simple answers. >>> >>> If I'm going to be treated in this manner, I'll just not ask anything and >>> consider unsubscribing to this list altogether if it is too inconvenient >>> for me to ask questions without just being handed a pod ca
Re: NFB Convention -- who is coming
I too will be at the upcoming convention, at the LookTel booth. To those of you who would like to say hi or just give me a piece of their mind ;) by all means, please stop by! See y'all soon! An Nancy, I'm absolutely looking forward to saying hi to you and the Digit eye's team again! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 27, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Nancy M wrote: Are you planning to come to the NFB convention this weekend + next week (yes, the one in Dallas where it was 108 degrees Farenheit yesterday!) If so, we'd love to get together! We'll be in booth B-31. We'll have some of our trainers on hand and we are bringing samples of all the i-devices and all our products for you to try. Plus we'll have some goodies to give away to our friends. If you'll be here, please drop us a line support(at)digit-eyes(dot)com or just stop by and introduce yourself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/vFlub0487RUJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: NFB Convention -- who is coming
Hi lists, I'm allowing this discussion here as long as it doesn't get too out -of-hand. I think this can be a good opportunity for Mac / iOS users to connect up and say hi. Please do keep this thread under control, K? What I mean is please let's just stay with networking here and not get into side discussions about the NFB / ACB or the conventions themselves. Okay? I think if we do that, then this thread can prove to be quite a valuable resource for those attending the two upcoming conventions… Thanks so much! Smiles, Cara :) On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:33 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Sorry but what does this have to do with the Mac? On 28/06/2012, at 9:48 AM, Hank Smith wrote: > I am coming to the nfb convention. > I will be with the saavi grou. > southern arizona asocian of the visually impaired. > On 6/27/2012 1:23 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> Hi Nancy. >> First, we have AC. We need it. I live in Dallas, I know. >> >> Here's my question. Are you bringing the Macs as well? If I get a braille >> display, I want one that works not only on i devices, but also on the Mac as >> well. >> Eugenia Firth >> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >> >> >> >> On Jun 27, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Nancy M wrote: >> >>> Are you planning to come to the NFB convention this weekend + next week >>> (yes, the one in Dallas where it was 108 degrees Farenheit yesterday!) >>> >>> If so, we'd love to get together! >>> >>> We'll be in booth B-31. We'll have some of our trainers on hand and we >>> are bringing samples of all the i-devices and all our products for you to >>> try. Plus we'll have some goodies to give away to our friends. >>> >>> If you'll be here, please drop us a line support(at)digit-eyes(dot)com or >>> just stop by and introduce yourself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/vFlub0487RUJ. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
LookTel Recognizer update now out!
Hi all, there's a new update to the LookTel Recognizer now out in the iOS App Store. here's the linkie and a description for those whom might not know about it. Enjoy! Cara :) --- http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-recognizer/id501088555?mt=8&ls=1 Description LookTel Recognizer allows users with visual impairments or blindness to identify cans, packages, ID or credit cards, DVDs, and similar items. Users can store images of objects in a library or database, and then simply point the iPhone's camera at an object and the phone will recognize and describe the item instantly. A barcode scanner is also included to provide additional labeling help. LookTel Recognizer is powered by an evolution of LookTel's patented and proprietary object recognition technology featured in LookTel's "Money Reader", an app that has helped thousands of users with visual impairments or blindness to instantly identify and count bills. There's no need to hold the camera still or capture a photo and wait for a result – recognition happens instantly, and in real-time. Additionally, the app does not require an active internet connection, which means it can be used at any location, anytime. Recognizer allows users to backup and export their created databases via E-Mail, enabling them to restore a database from lost or replaced devices, share it with other members of the community. Please note that users with severe visual impairments or blindness will require sighted assistance to initially create the image library. The image library must be setup before LookTel Recognizer can be used to identify objects. Using Recognizer Once the app is downloaded on your iOS device, you must create an image library before you can start recognizing items. Creating the library is easy, and can be fun, especially if you have a friend or family member who is a shutterbug. While it may seem to take a lot of time, it takes far less than most people imagine to create an excellent library of images. Once the library exists, less and less time is required of a sighted person, as you will find Recognizer can already identify most items that are used daily reliably and accurately every time. ...More IPPLEX Web SiteLookTel Recognizer Support What's New in Version 1.1 - Faster loading of application, especially with large databases - Fixed start-up crashes due to large databases - Improved recognition database performance - Export emails now broken into 100 item segments - Bluetooth output enabled - Shake to stop audio descriptions - Barcodes recognized now pop up an alert view with a description when in VoiceOver - Added additional barcodes. - Autolock is disabled - Added sound while program is initializing. - Added an email item button to the Detail Screen - Added additional accessibility hints to buttons. - Added opt-in switch to Settings and a one-time dialog box for allowing certain types of analytics to be gathered. - Silence torch on/off alerts while capturing - Removed Library Locked option from the Settings Screen - The ring silence switch no longer silences application audio. - Updated in-app documentation. - Updated UI. --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Will be at ACB from 10 - 12
Hi all, Just wanted to send along a quick note to let you know that LookTel will be at the ACB convention this week from the 10th through the 12th. I'll be at the booth so please do stop by and say hello if you'd like! :) I'd love to say hi in person. Moderating these groups is a very special privilege for me because you've all made these lists seriously amazing resources on the web. So I'd love to catch up with anyone whom might be so inclined. Perhaps I'll see you there! :) smiles, Cara :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note - Already taken care of, let's move on now :) -was- Re: YES-YES
Shawn and list, just to let you all know, this address has already been banned so let's go ahead and leave this one behind, K? :) In cases like this in future, if you're not sure if this is being taken care of, please don't hesitate to email me privately. Responding to this sort of thing on-list is not a good idea. No worries, but just want to let y'all know… :) Y'all rock! Have a terrific weekend! Smiles, Cara :) On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Shawn Krasniuk wrote: I'm confused. What, exactly, has this to do with Macs or Voiceover? I'm pretty sure that Kara and the other mods will agree with me when I say that chain mail like this doesn't belong on this list. Thanks. Shawn On 2012-07-19, at 4:20 PM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Quick mod note -was- Re: A Thanksgiving poem
Hey All, thanks so much for sharing the thanksgiving well wishes! Now, since its Cyber-Monday, I think we should move on to some Apple products, yes? thanks again for brightening up the season and do have a lovely day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 27, 2011, at 9:16 AM, Johnny Angel! wrote: Hi Jenny, I never liked to leave my faithful guide Romeo behind. I always felt a big part of me was missing. But I hope you still had a nice Thanksgiving as well...and thank you for the nice complement on my poetic wax. There's much more where that came from. Blessings, Johnny On Nov 26, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote: > I really enjoyed your poem. I hope you had a wonderful thanksgiving. I > wasn't able to take Brooks because my mother-in-law's house is small and she > was having quite a crowd over. It was my first holiday without him and I > didn't like it. I'm not sure I'll do that again. > > Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks > On Nov 24, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Johnny Angel! wrote: > >>> 11/24/2011. >>> My Own Reflection: >>> >>> Here’s to serving each day like today, >>> Apples of Gold on a silver tray, >>> And all I can see and all I can say >>> of gratefulness for giving Loving away. >>> Johnny Chilelli >>> >>> Now smile real big! >>> Happy Thanksgiving! >> >> Johnny Angel! >> beefca...@neo.rr.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Johnny Angel! beefca...@neo.rr.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Fwd: [LookTel Blog] Let Siri help you read your money
Let Siri help you read your money While the latest release of the Looktel Money Reader offers significant new features for its human users, one Easter egg actually even gets Siri's attention. :) For users of iPhone 4S, it's now possible to have Siri assist you in bringing up Money Reader so you can save time in searching for the app on your home screens. Siri integration means that you can have the personal assistant locate a link to the app for you, so that you can quickly and conveniently double tap to open it in an instant, for those times when you really need Money Reader on short notice, or would simply rather not need to move through several pages of apps to locate it yourself. Here's how this feature works… • First, once you have Money Reader installed on your phone, create a new contact in your Contacts app. • Name this contact anything you'd like, bearing in mind that this is the name that you'll use to bring up Money Reader. • In the homepage URL text field, type the following: moneyreader:// • Double tap the 'done' button to finalize editing of your new contact. To use this new feature, do the following… • Tell Siri to bring up your new contact by simply saying the name you've entered. • Siri will then present you with the contact you just created, and its associated info, which, in this case, will be the URL you typed in for Money Reader. • Now simply double tap the URL you see on the screen, and Money Reader will launch for you. That's it! It's as simple as that! :) >From now on, when you'd like to use Money Reader, simply tell Siri the name of >the Money Reader contact, and Siri will bring it up for you. Double tap the >URL to bring up the app and you're good to go!… Hope you enjoy this tip and happy Money Reading!… --- You may view the latest post to the Looktel blog at http://www.looktel.com/blog/let-siri-help-you-read-your-money -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Looktel Money Reader For Macintosh (OSX)
Hey All, for those of you whom may not have seen this… Looktel has just released Money Reader for Mac! Here's the linkie and the press release… Enjoy! Cara :) --- Looktel Money Reader for Macintosh http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-money-reader/id477052345?ls=1&mt=12 NantWorks and IPPLEX have released their revolutionary LookTel Money Reader, app for Mac computers on the Apple Mac App Store. The cutting-edge iPhone application that has helped thousands of users with visual impairments or blindness identify and count bills is now available for Mac OS computers. By simply holding a bill in front of your Mac’s camera, the application recognizes and speaks the denomination in real-time. LookTel Money Reader for Mac supports several international currencies including the Euro, British Pound, Canadian Dollar, and Australian Dollar. The app also features VoiceOver integration with support for several languages including English, Spanish, French, Italian, German, Polish, Russian, Korean, Finnish, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Japanese and more. If your Mac’s language setting is set to any of the supported languages, LookTel Money Reader will speak the denomination of a recognized bill in that language, regardless of the currency type. Powered by LookTel's patented and proprietary object recognition technology, the application can seamlessly recognize any bill denomination without the need to take a photo as recognition happens in real-time. LookTel Money Reader for Mac is the first currency identifier available for Apple computers. The app is great for users to count and organize their bills in the comfort of their home, or users who do not own an iPhone. LookTel Money Reader for Mac also gives users the option to use the app on their preferred platform. LookTel Money Reader for iPhone launched in March to overwhelming praise from critics and users alike, earning a 5-star review average and a featured spot in the Apple App Store's "What's Hot" Category. LookTel has also been featured by the New York Times, The Huffington Post, Tech Crunch, Engadget, and several other major publications. LookTel has also been selected as the winner of the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) Chairman’s Awards for Advancements in Accessibility. The award, which recognizes outstanding efforts to advance communications accessibility for people with disabilities, was awarded in Washington D.C. on October 28th 2011. Future LookTel apps will further leverage IPPLEX's groundbreaking augmented reality technology, allowing users to recognize other everyday objects such as packaged goods, CDs, medication bottles, and even landmarks. The technology also combines precision image recognition technology with text reader capabilities using full featured Optical Character Recognition (OCR). The LookTel technology powering the application was developed by IPPLEX under sponsorship from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and was awarded two research grants from the National Eye Institute (NEI) and the National Institute of Aging (NIA). About IPPLEX IPPLEX researches and develops pioneering cross-platform applications and services focused on interactive communication – between people and the information, contacts and places they need to access through their mobile phone or PC. Our award-winning iVisit mobile video conferencing solutions have made business simpler and easier – and our iVisit Mx telemedicine solutions are the next step in mobile medical technology. In 2010, we launched LookTel, an exciting augmented reality application created to positively impact the lives of the visually impaired, and a 1st place winner in the 2010 CTIA E-Tech Awards. From live audio/video conferencing solutions to mobile healthcare to augmented reality applications, IPPLEX is always one step ahead of the curve. For more information, see http://www.ipplex.com. About NantWorks NantWorks LLC is a company founded and led by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong. Its mission is to converge semiconductor technology, supercomputing, advanced networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play and live. Early applications will be in the fields including scientific research and healthcare. For more information, see http://www.nantworks.com. --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Looktel Money Reader For Macintosh (OSX)
Hi Daniel, it's certainly possible. The link does work for me, so I'd try again in a little while. Happy Holidays!!! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Dec 21, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: I’m unable to find that in the app store, so perhaps it didn’t propigate yet? H…. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:57 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com Subject: Looktel Money Reader For Macintosh (OSX) Hey All, for those of you whom may not have seen this… Looktel has just released Money Reader for Mac! Here's the linkie and the press release… Enjoy! Cara :) --- Looktel Money Reader for Macintosh http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-money-reader/id477052345?ls=1&mt=12 NantWorks and IPPLEX have released their revolutionary LookTel Money Reader, app for Mac computers on the Apple Mac App Store. The cutting-edge iPhone application that has helped thousands of users with visual impairments or blindness identify and count bills is now available for Mac OS computers. By simply holding a bill in front of your Mac’s camera, the application recognizes and speaks the denomination in real-time. LookTel Money Reader for Mac supports several international currencies including the Euro, British Pound, Canadian Dollar, and Australian Dollar. The app also features VoiceOver integration with support for several languages including English, Spanish, French, Italian, German, Polish, Russian, Korean, Finnish, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, Japanese and more. If your Mac’s language setting is set to any of the supported languages, LookTel Money Reader will speak the denomination of a recognized bill in that language, regardless of the currency type. Powered by LookTel's patented and proprietary object recognition technology, the application can seamlessly recognize any bill denomination without the need to take a photo as recognition happens in real-time. LookTel Money Reader for Mac is the first currency identifier available for Apple computers. The app is great for users to count and organize their bills in the comfort of their home, or users who do not own an iPhone. LookTel Money Reader for Mac also gives users the option to use the app on their preferred platform. LookTel Money Reader for iPhone launched in March to overwhelming praise from critics and users alike, earning a 5-star review average and a featured spot in the Apple App Store's "What's Hot" Category. LookTel has also been featured by the New York Times, The Huffington Post, Tech Crunch, Engadget, and several other major publications. LookTel has also been selected as the winner of the Federal Communications Commission’s (FCC) Chairman’s Awards for Advancements in Accessibility. The award, which recognizes outstanding efforts to advance communications accessibility for people with disabilities, was awarded in Washington D.C. on October 28th 2011. Future LookTel apps will further leverage IPPLEX's groundbreaking augmented reality technology, allowing users to recognize other everyday objects such as packaged goods, CDs, medication bottles, and even landmarks. The technology also combines precision image recognition technology with text reader capabilities using full featured Optical Character Recognition (OCR). The LookTel technology powering the application was developed by IPPLEX under sponsorship from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and was awarded two research grants from the National Eye Institute (NEI) and the National Institute of Aging (NIA). About IPPLEX IPPLEX researches and develops pioneering cross-platform applications and services focused on interactive communication – between people and the information, contacts and places they need to access through their mobile phone or PC. Our award-winning iVisit mobile video conferencing solutions have made business simpler and easier – and our iVisit Mx telemedicine solutions are the next step in mobile medical technology. In 2010, we launched LookTel, an exciting augmented reality application created to positively impact the lives of the visually impaired, and a 1st place winner in the 2010 CTIA E-Tech Awards. From live audio/video conferencing solutions to mobile healthcare to augmented reality applications, IPPLEX is always one step ahead of the curve. For more information, see http://www.ipplex.com. About NantWorks NantWorks LLC is a company founded and led by Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong. Its mission is to converge semiconductor technology, supercomputing, advanced networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play and live. Early applications will be in the fields including scientific research and healthcare.
Moderator note - A formal apology
Hello All, firstly just let me say that i hope the new year is finding you all very well… :) I'm writing this note to both the VIPhone and MacVisionaries lists as I've not only been really, really busy, and wanted to apologize to you all for any delays in list administration that you've seen of late. Also though, I did want to let you know that I actually have been keeping up with subscriptions and such, so if any of you have had issues, this may actually be a google thing. I check subscription requests every few days and clear the queue each time, and have noticed that most times of late, Google has not behaved, causing me to make several tries to get everyone on the list. So it may be that even though the site says you're now subscribed you may not be. So if you seem not to be on the groups, and you feel you should be, give this one more try through Google Groups and if this fails, write me privately at either: caraqu...@caraquinn.com or modelc...@gmail.com As I said, I'm very busy of late, so it will most likely take me a few days to get back with you, but providing I do get your note, I will respond. Usually it takes me until the weekends at this point to catch up on email, but I'll do my best. :) So don't give up, K? Thanks so much for your patience and understanding and I look forward to chatting with you on / off the lists. Have a great day / weekend All!!! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Diffs / preferences between the two Looktel Money Readers?…
Hey All, am just wondering what people are thinking of the two Money Readers at this point? What are your feelings about the differences and do you have a preference for either the Mac or iPhone versions? This is not a question coming from Looktel, it's just my own curiosity. :) I'm just wondering what people think so far about the two… If anyone needs info on either, here are the linkies… Mac OSX http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-money-reader/id477052345?mt=12&ls=1 iOS http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/looktel-money-reader/id417476558?mt=8&ls=1 Would love to hear how people are getting along with these and any differences / preferences that you all may want to share. Talk soon and have a lovely day / weekend!!! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: voice over's single thread issue
Yuma, excellent observation, and have you mentioned this to accessibil...@apple.com? If not, i'd definitely advise you to, as your experiences can be really helpful to them. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jan 21, 2012, at 11:19 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi list, I've been playing around with some scripts and foreign exchange apps that speak the movements for you, and noticed how voice over just stops speaking, or becomes very erratic as there's only one thread for voice over meaning no simultaneous voice over events can take place, even with the huge ammount of ram rpicessor speed etc one can have. I find this a real drag and quite surprising that no multithreading has been yet implemented in voice over. Just hoping this will be done in the next big os Best regardsf Yuma -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox!
John, thanks for the tip that this option is still available. I wonder though; -seems like for the price, one might just as well by an inexpensive monitor! lol! Thanks again and have an awesome day!… Smiles, Cara :) On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:12 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, you can still fool the newer Minis into thinking you have a monitor. I have a mid 2011, and it works fine without a monitor. You need to get a mini VGA display port and a converter box. It's a setup that will run about $60 in total, but it works fine if you really don't want or you don't have a monitor. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Feb 14, 2012, at 11:35 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > You definitely need to at least have a monitor connected, the older minis, > from before 2008 could get around this by connecting the adapter that allows > you to connect it to a TV through the RCA plug. All newer minis however, must > be connected to a monitor, no way around it. > On Feb 14, 2012, at 7:59 AM, Bill Holton wrote: > >> Beofre I bought my Mini I called Apple twice and asked if this would be a >> problem. They assured me it would not. Recently dealing with another >> related issue they told me they had never received any complaints about >> minis not working properly without a monitor. I sent htem a half dozen >> emails from people who had. Now they don't respond to me anymore. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:24 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Major Finder Problem Caused by Dropbox! >> >> Do you have the mac mini connected to a monitor, if not, it may cause this >> kind of behavior, the monitor does not need to be turned on, just connected. >> On Feb 12, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> I just installed Dropbox this afternoon on my new mac mini. I thought >>> it installed OK and it even synced up my files from the host but now I >>> constantly get "Finder busy" all the time whenever I open *ANY* window >>> in the finder! At this point, the Finder is completely useless while >>> the Dropbox app is running. If I go into my login preferences and >>> remove Dropbox from the startup list and log back in, I can use the >>> finder like always. As soon as I launch Dropbox from the >>> applications folder or allow it to run at login, Finder goes to hell >>> in a handbag! >>> >>> Has anyone else experienced thins kind of thing? >>> >>> Note, I am using a mac mini without a monitor connected. I surely >>> hope this isn't also going to be a problem like the auto starting of >>> VO when no monitor is connected. >>> >>> Hey, I really want to use Dropbox but this performance hit is a show >>> stopper for me. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@goo
Re: Status Menus Are Gone
Hi Jane, Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer. This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route of a reinstall. HTH Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane wrote: If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I think I have maybe one authorization left. Jane On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > That should be the one. It's starting to look like you may need to do a > re-install. I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet. You could try > the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition. This would install the > newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues that exist. A > good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it is quicker and less > problematic than a clean install. I think it's worth a try for you. > > Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you choose to > go this way. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane wrote: > >> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't let me >> open that. Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices folder? >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hmmm. I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some items >>> just don't seem to repair themselves. How about you try the following: >>> >>> * Go to your Finder. >>> * Open your Macintosh HD >>> * Open the System folder. >>> * Open the Library folder >>> * Open the Core Services folder. >>> * Open the Battery item. >>> >>> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the Battery >>> Status menu is available. If it is, then do the same process to get some >>> of the other extras back onto the Status Menus. If that doesn't do it, let >>> me know. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane wrote: >>> I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing to do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't access the extra menus, though. Jane On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually unnecessary > task. Try to do a repair permissions first. To do so... > > * Go to the Finder. > * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder. > * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it. > * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD. > * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab. > * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with > VO-space. > * Wait patiently as it does its task. > > Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission > errors. In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the Recovery > Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first. By the way, > what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command? Is there an > alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu Extras are > available. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane wrote: > >> Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to have to >> reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh* >> >> Jane >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status menus? >>> This is not typical behavior. >>> >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 >>> Mountain Lion >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> >>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Jane wrote: >>> Hi there. I tried both cycling VO off and on and a re-start of this computer. It didn't make a difference. Any other thoughts? Jane On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > I wou
Moderator Note -was- Re: slightly ot: icloud based audio discription indiegogo project.
Hi All, While Kevin is correct in saying that I do support what he / Zagga is doing, please let me remind you all that this conversation is now straying way too far off topic for this list. I was personally hoping to post about Zagga myself since they have specific plans to actively support Mac and iOS customers, looks like y'all beat me to it. :) Please though, let's keep this discussion to Mac and iOS. If we can do that then discussing Zagga here is just fine. If we cannot, then we will need to move on. I would encourage all those who are interested in this service to check out their campaign. Thanks All and have a wonderful evening!... Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Devin Prater wrote: No offense, but I've seen companies like this, and they usually fall. Countless companies that claimed to make inexpensive braille displays and such, that simple didn't show any progress. Talkingflicks has done the same. So I have little hope for those upstart company, no matter how much lip service they give us. Devin Prater Sent from my iPod 5. iMessage, facebook, and face-time: devinpra...@live.com email: d.pra...@me.com Google Talk/keychat: r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com > On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:05, Caitlyn and Maggie > wrote: > > thanks! > I hope this gets off the ground! > I'd shell out for it myself. > Cait > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> Sharing in case this has not been posted here. >> What I love about this company besides the strong effort making the platform >> work is their ethical commitment. Unlike the "no one cares about blind >> people so we will steal content," approach. This is a real company who is >> providing a variety of the many many describes titles, and doing it on a >> global platform. If you cannot contribute to the Indiegogo campaign, I >> hope you will share this far and wide. >> >> >> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zagga-entertainment-ltd/x/6442652#home >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Kare >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hotspots and Web Spots in Safari
Hi Alex, I believe you may be seeing an issue where the heading you marked is no longer visible. When a hotspot moves out of the visible screen area or somehow becomes invisible, VoiceOver can no longer move to it. So no, hotspots are not broken. One just needs to understand that these are based on visual screen layout. Arguably this may not be the best or easiest approach for the average blind / visually impaired user, but this is what we have for the moment. Perhaps a spoken message letting the user know that the particular hotspot has moved out of visual range may be in order. Hope this helps and have a great night! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I am working on a Safari article for new Mac users, and I thought I'd cover hotspots and web spots. Now, though, I don't know if I should. Here's what i did to try out hotspots: 1. I went to an open page in Safari, navigated to a heading partway down it, and pressed vo-shift-1. 2. I hit vo-left a few times, then vo-1, and was taken to my spot. Great. 3. I moved to the top of the page, tabbed a couple times, and hit vo-1. Nothing at all happened. 4. I pressed vo-1 again, chose my spot from the Hotspots menu, and nothing happened. 5. I hit vo-cmd-1, and was told the hotspot no longer exists. Did I do it wrong? I try hotspots every so often, and each time I remember why I never use them... I'd love to know I'm wrong and that they work great, but they seem like a broken and neglected feature to me. Thanks for any input. I did try Web Spots, and they didn't break immediately. However, I really like that hotspots are associated with numbers; web spots require you to move through a list sequentially, right? Are there major problems with web spots as well, or do they work reliably? -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Hotspots and Web Spots in Safari
HI Alex, Webspots do not work the same way as hotspots. Webspots are accessible by VO even when they are off-screen. However, if the element that the webspot refers to is no longer present on the page, I'm not sure the webspot would still be present. Are you saying that your webspot arbitrarily moved from an element you set it on, to one you did not when the webpage changed? -Or are you saying that the page changed and the previous webspot and page element were still there? Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Alex Hall wrote: I guess that makes sense, but as you said, it is a really odd approach to take for a visually impaired audience. Do Web Spots work the same way? I set one on a forum, and when a new post came in, the spot stayed put, meaning that, as the page was now longer, the spot had moved up the page. The next update caused the spot to vanish entirely. This is rather disappointing, as I, and probably most people, expect a bookmark-like feature to stick to the bit of the page we put it on and not the visual location. On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I believe you may be seeing an issue where the heading you marked is no > longer visible. > > When a hotspot moves out of the visible screen area or somehow becomes > invisible, VoiceOver can no longer move to it. > > So no, hotspots are not broken. One just needs to understand that these are > based on visual screen layout. Arguably this may not be the best or easiest > approach for the average blind / visually impaired user, but this is what we > have for the moment. > > Perhaps a spoken message letting the user know that the particular hotspot > has moved out of visual range may be in order. > > Hope this helps and have a great night! > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > I am working on a Safari article for new Mac users, and I thought I'd cover > hotspots and web spots. Now, though, I don't know if I should. Here's what i > did to try out hotspots: > > 1. I went to an open page in Safari, navigated to a heading partway down it, > and pressed vo-shift-1. > 2. I hit vo-left a few times, then vo-1, and was taken to my spot. Great. > 3. I moved to the top of the page, tabbed a couple times, and hit vo-1. > Nothing at all happened. > 4. I pressed vo-1 again, chose my spot from the Hotspots menu, and nothing > happened. > 5. I hit vo-cmd-1, and was told the hotspot no longer exists. > > Did I do it wrong? I try hotspots every so often, and each time I remember > why I never use them... I'd love to know I'm wrong and that they work great, > but they seem like a broken and neglected feature to me. Thanks for any input. > > I did try Web Spots, and they didn't break immediately. However, I really > like that hotspots are associated with numbers; web spots require you to move > through a list sequentially, right? Are there major problems with web spots > as well, or do they work reliably? > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
Re: Sample text that VoiceOver is skipping
Hi, I have also seen this for years. this is not quite a bug in the sense that it is the structure for a speech command which you can see in action by doing the following. I will not put these commands in this text as I'd rather not make people's speech go wonky! lol! :) 1 open a text file with TextEdit 2 add the command rate90 at the top of the file, surrounded by three brackets as in: [[[ command ]]] 3 Type some text below the command you just placed in the top of the file as in: This is just a test Now when you do a say all with VO a the test text should be spoken quite slowly. The number you type for the rate is the rate of speech in words per minute. So when VO encounters the triple brackets in text it expects a speech command, but does not speak what is in those brackets. Hope this helps explain this a bit. Have a great day All! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On May 2, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Alex Hall wrote: You know what's weird? The word "secret" was read in say-all and line-by-line reading. When I find code snippets that won't read, they don't appear to work anywhere, not just in Mail or Xcode, but I haven't figured out the rules that cause this to happen. Still, I'm glad it isn't just me. Thanks. On May 2, 2014, at 9:56 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: > I even tried it in another editor (SubEtha Edit) and it did the same thing. > So VO is getting confused consistently. Apparently it's the triple-bracket > that makes VO silent. The following is a simpler example that also fails: > > This is some [[[secret]]] text. > > I have the word "secret" in triple brackets and VO says nothing when I move > focus there. Text Edit does the same thing. So this appears to be a pretty > low-level bug. > > CB > > On 5/2/14, 9:37 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> That's weird, but it makes sense that VO is confused. I can verify it. I can >> read character by character and it shows up, though. >> >> Teresa >> >> “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On May 2, 2014, at 6:26 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I've noticed something really odd lately, and I'd like to see if anyone can >>> confirm it. Below is a line of code. You don't need to know Objective-C or >>> anything; the oddity is that VO is skipping text. Specifically, the bit >>> that says [[self solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole] is omitted entirely. I >>> recommend you set punctuation to "most" before continuing. Here's the line: >>> >>> [self setDiscardStack:[[AITCardStack alloc] initWithRoles:@[[[self >>> solitaireModel] isDiscardStackRole; >>> >>> I assume you read that line by line, or all at once in a say-all. Go back >>> and examine it word by word, or character by character, and see if there >>> isn't a part near the end that VO skipped over entirely. I can reproduce >>> this with any voice, and I'm starting to wonder if the brackets are getting >>> VO confused. On the Mac, in-line speech commands are surrounded by double >>> brackets, and I think the speech manager that lets VO talk might be getting >>> mixed up. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from
Yahoo! panel for Global Accessibility Awareness Day
Hello All, I just wanted to make a quick mention, for those who may be interested and who are in the Los Angeles area, that I will be part of a panel at Yahoo!'s Santa Monica campus, for Global Accessibility Awareness Day. here is the web site for more info on this event. http://www.meetup.com/Los-Angeles-Accessibility-and-Inclusive-Design-Group/events/170230002/ Have a lovely night All and hope to see you there tomorrow! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Reminder - Zagga Entertainment Indiegogo Campaign
Hi All, I wanted to send along a quick reminder for all of us. The Zagga Entertainment campaign is still going on at Indiegogo and Zagga is still looking for your support. They are currently offering subscriptions at a big discount for those who contribute to their campaign so this is an excellent time to check it out and lend your support. Here is the link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zagga-entertainment-ltd You might also wish to visit the above page frequently so you can track their progress so you know what is happening with Zagga Entertainment as the campaign moves ahead... Have a lovely day / evening and go and show them some love! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Zagga Entertainment Campaign Ending tomorrow
Hi All, Happy Friday 13! I wanted to send along one last reminder that The Zagga Entertainment campaign is still going on at Indiegogo , but is ending tomorrow. Zagga is still looking for your support. Remember, they will be actively bringing described video to Mac and iOS devices as well as other platforms... I hope you will consider checking out their campaign and showing them some love! :) Remember, every little bit helps... Here is the link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zagga-entertainment-ltd Thank you, and have a lovely day / evening! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Messages and Mail / One Row Added -was- Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open
HI Alex, For what it is worth, I just saw a very similar behavior this morning on my MacBook Air 11 inch. I was focused on the Messages app and not focused at all on Mail, and kept hearing VO say 'one row added' etc. as each new email message was downloaded. So even though I was focused with VoiceOver in Messages, and reading / trying to respond to iMessages, VO was still announcing updates to my inbox in Mail. Cursor tracking was definitely on, and I was definitely focused in Messages and was able to type in the edit field. Though VO kept interrupting what I was doing... So I wonder if this is related to what you are seeing?... This is the first time I've seen this. This is definitely not only strange but downright obnoxious and counterproductive. :) Thanks for letting us know about what you are seeing. Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 14, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, The subject basically says it all. If I leave my Downloads folder open, and I start downloading a new file, VO constantly starts saying the name of whatever file was last focused on in Downloads. I said "starts saying" because it happens so often, once a second if not more, that speech never gets more than a word or two in before beginning again. This happens even if I'm not in Finder or Safari at the time. The strangest part is that this is on my Macbook Air; my Mini never once did this. Any ideas? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Messages and Mail / One Row Added -was- Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open
Hi Anne, Thanks so much for the suggestion, but I actually have completely disabled Notification Center and removed it from my status menus so it absolutely never comes up or bothers me with anything at all! :) I'm wondering though, in the method you are mentioning, when Notification Center is active and you have disabled announcements as you have, are the 'one row added' shenanigans in Mail and other apps mercifully prevented or do they still go on? Thank you so much Anne! Do have a lovely day / evening! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 15, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Cara, Could this problem be related to the Notifications? I've removed everything from Notifications and set them all to do nothing. Just taking them out of Notifications wasn't sufficient. I have an activity for Mail with Verbosity set to Low, and links and URLs set to play tone. This all makes Mail much less verbose and pleasanter to use. Cheers, Anne On 15 Jun 2014, at 22:19, Cara Quinn wrote: > HI Alex, > > For what it is worth, I just saw a very similar behavior this morning on my > MacBook Air 11 inch. I was focused on the Messages app and not focused at all > on Mail, and kept hearing VO say 'one row added' etc. as each new email > message was downloaded. > > So even though I was focused with VoiceOver in Messages, and reading / trying > to respond to iMessages, VO was still announcing updates to my inbox in Mail. > > Cursor tracking was definitely on, and I was definitely focused in Messages > and was able to type in the edit field. Though VO kept interrupting what I > was doing... So I wonder if this is related to what you are seeing?... > > This is the first time I've seen this. This is definitely not only strange > but downright obnoxious and counterproductive. :) > > Thanks for letting us know about what you are seeing. > > Cara :) > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Jun 14, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > The subject basically says it all. If I leave my Downloads folder open, and I > start downloading a new file, VO constantly starts saying the name of > whatever file was last focused on in Downloads. I said "starts saying" > because it happens so often, once a second if not more, that speech never > gets more than a word or two in before beginning again. This happens even if > I'm not in Finder or Safari at the time. The strangest part is that this is > on my Macbook Air; my Mini never once did this. Any ideas? Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Messages and Mail / One Row Added -was- Re: VO won't shut up when downloading files if Downloads folder is open
Thank you Anders, Will try this in future if this happens again. Interestingly enough, this is absolutely the first and only time so far, in years of using VO and Mail that I have ever seen this happen. Usually redirecting VoiceOver's focus somewhere other than the offending app or mailbox will stop the 'one row added' madness... Like Alex, I have changed no settings or anything else... -Interesting... Thanks again and have a terrific day / evening! Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I have also noticed this with the mail app. However if i press command h to hide the mail app then evrything works like a charm. /A 15 jun 2014 kl. 22:19 skrev Cara Quinn : > HI Alex, > > For what it is worth, I just saw a very similar behavior this morning on my > MacBook Air 11 inch. I was focused on the Messages app and not focused at all > on Mail, and kept hearing VO say 'one row added' etc. as each new email > message was downloaded. > > So even though I was focused with VoiceOver in Messages, and reading / trying > to respond to iMessages, VO was still announcing updates to my inbox in Mail. > > Cursor tracking was definitely on, and I was definitely focused in Messages > and was able to type in the edit field. Though VO kept interrupting what I > was doing... So I wonder if this is related to what you are seeing?... > > This is the first time I've seen this. This is definitely not only strange > but downright obnoxious and counterproductive. :) > > Thanks for letting us know about what you are seeing. > > Cara :) > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Jun 14, 2014, at 1:19 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > > Hi all, > The subject basically says it all. If I leave my Downloads folder open, and I > start downloading a new file, VO constantly starts saying the name of > whatever file was last focused on in Downloads. I said "starts saying" > because it happens so often, once a second if not more, that speech never > gets more than a word or two in before beginning again. This happens even if > I'm not in Finder or Safari at the time. The strangest part is that this is > on my Macbook Air; my Mini never once did this. Any ideas? Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: notification center
Hi Jean, Here is a link with another way to effectively disable Notification Center, should you need to. As with Anne's option, this is non-destructive. http://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-turn-off-notification-center-in-os-x-mavericks/ I've personally not tried this as this option was not available when Notification Center started being the bane of my work day so I needed to take another road, but hopefully between Anne's suggestions and this link you should find what you are looking for. HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 16, 2014, at 3:35 AM, Jean wrote: Hello All: The notifications on my mac are driving me crazy. No matter how many times I check the box for do not disturb it insists on giving a notification every time I receive an email message! Any suggestions, please help! Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Disabling notification centre?
HI Christopher, Have you explored the method I just sent along to Jean? Is this enough or are you looking to completely exterminate Notification Center? Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 16, 2014, at 8:14 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Hi all Subject says it all. How to disable the notification centre please? Thanks! -- Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Moderator Note -was- Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
HI All, thanks to everyone for your thoughtful posts / responses to this thread. Kayaker has been with us for a while now and yes, he is in the process of becoming a list moderator. It is actually down to my being very busy and Google's unpredictable strange behaviors that he is not a list mod already. So yes, what Kayaker is saying is essentially true. iOS posts are welcome here but if they get past a point where they are not only exclusively iOS but then also go off-topic or meander, then yes, they will probably find a better home on VIPhone where the focus is specific to iOS devices. So the take-away from this is that iOS posts are in fact welcome here but since the list focus is Mac, it's best to kind of gradually move them over to VIPhone when possible. Having said this, I certainly do want members to feel welcome here, especially those who have been here a while, as you have Kawal. So I am inclined to have a bit of latitude in regard to how strict we are on Mac vs iOS topics. Kayaker has the right idea though. Eventually it would be nice to have MacVisionaries be for Mac and VIPhone be for iOS. Naturally there will always be a bit of overlap which is fine and we have been fortunate to pretty much always keep a good balance here. So Kawal, don't go. :) You are welcome here. :) If anyone has any further thoughts on this sort of list management then please do feel free to email me privately. caraqu...@caraquinn.com Thanks for reading and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!... Thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., > On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater wrote: > > Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? > I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. > Devin Prater > d.pra...@me.com > > > >> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >> Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always >> want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage >> email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to >> make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. >> >> Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate >> endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in >> nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. >> >> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >> Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. >> You have a perception problem. >> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >> E-mail- >> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >> >>> On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Hello. >>> >>> As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can >>> talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us >>> work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the >>> moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are >>> moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates >>> this list. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Kawal. On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker wrote: Hi, Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts. Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect topic specific content from their list memberships. . Thank you. --k -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe fr
Mod note -was- Re: Friendly Reminder: This is a Mac list, not iOS
HI Kevin, You're right but also remember that LookTel Money Reader also has a Mac equivalent. -But yes, let us definitely move along now and continue our usual excellent quality of discussion here. :) Thanks again to you all for your contributions! You rock! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: I've never seen Cara say anything and she posts about looktel and other software. Let's just move on. KDM On Jul 2, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access > multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to > unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since > 2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., > >> On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater wrote: >> >> Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? >> I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes. >> Devin Prater >> d.pra...@me.com >> >> >> >>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C wrote: >>> >>> Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always >>> want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage >>> email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to >>> make a list work contrary to its stated purpose. >>> >>> Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate >>> endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in >>> nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can. >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem. >>> You have a perception problem. >>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hello. As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can talk about I phone matters on this list. Please bear in mind, some of us work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing. If the moderators have a problem, please let us know about it. If you are moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates this list. Thank you. Kawal. > On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker wrote: > > Hi, > > Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries > list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific > posts. > > Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those > are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that > deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone. > > There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post > our questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best > possible answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who > expect topic specific content from their list memberships. > . > > Thank you. > --k > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >
Moderator Note - Important -was- Re: So is this list going to die or not?
Hello All, firstly, this list is not going to die. Now, to be completely frank and honest with you all. I have been in the hospital for days now, visiting with a very dear one to me, who is passing away. So honestly, I cannot address any of these matters right now. The fact is, you are all adults and you know enough to ignore posts or posters who simply want (for whatever reason) to incite or stir the pot so to speak. So if there is a message you do not wish to read, or do not agree with, just delete it and move on. This is the adult thing to do. Neither a list owner or moderator are magic people who make everything alright. Yes, we can ban people, etc, but in the end, this comes down to you all managing yourselves in a way which you all are proud of. that is what makes this list worth something. So if you feel this list is a resource you wish to preserve and help to grow, as you have been doing now for years, then just simply act in accordance with those beliefs which you know to be right and the rest will follow. I promise you, I will address this more fully when I can. I am sure (or at least would hope) that in light of these circumstances, that you would understand. My sincerest apologies that there have been issues of late. Some of these are actually being dealt with already, in the background, but the fact that this topic exists says that you need more. I will do more as soon as I can. For now, please use your own good judgement and simply act as you know you should, and this list will be the kind and helping place that it has been. Thank you all for reading this and I will be in touch again soon. Sincerely, Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Just wondering after reading all the messages of whether this list should be or not be, is this list going to continue or is it going to die? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Quick Mod note - A number of quick Re: a new macvisionaries list
Hi All, I just want to send this quick note along first, to thank those of you who have offered their support to me and those I love. this truly means a lot to me and please know that this is not something I take lightly nor will forget. So thank you! Now, on to some quick list business; Firstly, tyler, my apologies, but I have not seen a single private message from you over the last months. So I was not aware that you were offering to assist with list moderation or that you were upset with this list. I apparently seem to be having some email issues (which have been going on now for months) so I have occasionally missed important notes. I apologize for this but do not (as yet) know why this is happening. Secondly, To those who have suggested that there be another mod, there actually has been someone already, who is helping out. -And, I am also looking at others right now as well. To the poster who has alluded to my letting the list go, I am not actually clear on what you mean by this. As you already know, I have not been able to keep up with these last threads, but I will not delete any of these messages until I can give them the attention they deserve. So I will address this when I can, as I said yesterday. Also, thank you to the poster who mentioned the original list ownership. Unlike VIPhone, (which I started) I was fortunate enough to inherit ownership of this list from Saqib Sheikh, who did an amazing job starting this community. Despite the issues sometimes, I am very grateful for the chance to help keep this community going. So again, please know that I do not take any of this lightly. Lastly, for the moment, can we please move on from this and get back to the informational discussions concerning the Mac / Apple products? Please close the topics which are advertising other mailing lists and / or justifying opinions of one or the other poster etc? Please understand, I ask this simply to bring better focus since this is what many of you seem to be asking for. Personally, I like wide and varied discussion as long as it is respectful. If we need more focus though, then it is better to apply all these current energies to that, rather than simply trying to justify one opinion over another. As I mentioned yesterday, please just use your own good judgement and this will be fine. Hope this makes sense and I thank you once again for your understanding. I will check in again as soon as I can. Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 27, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Shaf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 It's pretty ridiculous that this thread is more than 100 messages long. On 8/27/2015 2:55 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Hello: I'm a bit baffled by this response, because you're trying to > make Chris sound like this reasonable guy who sometimes just might > slip with the f-bomb. This is not the case. Less than a month ago I > said something that bothered him. I woke up to 20+ emails at least > cursing and ranting. There is no call for that. > > I'm also going to say I find it mildly amusing that this uproar is > because of a specific person but also because how the list has > devolved and he just kind of ignores that and moves on to trying > to sound sensable again. I'm curious how much of his junk is > getting blocked/how soon it will take him to devolve. > > But to make it clear, this isn't specifically for one person. I > feel like I've said this 500 times. It's because the list was > allowed to devolve and a majority of the community does not like > that. I'm also calling an end to this endless debate on my behalf, > no matter what I'll say you'll just scream "You idiot just filter," > and that's fine. Chocolate and vanilla, remember? > > On 8/27/2015 8:59 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> First off, nothing Chris says or could say offends me or for >> that matter nothing anyone says on any of these mailing lists >> offends me or would chase me away. Secondly, I’ve actually taken >> the time to talk to Chris off line and also seen a whole >> different side to his responses on another list where there was a >> lot of attacking going on so I have radically changed my opinion >> of him from when I first ran in to him some time ago. Does he >> push the boundaries and get out of line sometimes, sure but so do >> I and a lot of people. All moderation means to me is someone >> either can’t police themselves, they need to have their hand held >> and content managed for them and or someone has a power trip they >> need to feed and wants their own personal kingdom to rule over >> and d
Re: Moderator Note - Clearing some air -was- Important -was- Re: So is this list going to die or not?
distress as you faceend-of-life issues with a friend. However, as I learned during a similar time of my own, life goes on. In particular, I had to continue dealing with the day-to-day aspects of my job @ a busy non-profit organization & delegate responsibilities to others as required. However, all of that being said, I don’t believe that the level of frustration, being experienced by the majority of this list’s members, is either understood or being acted upon by you or any other moderator. In addition, I don’t feel that a lecture on maturity or the usage of the delete key is warranted or appropriate. You are in effect calling the well-behaved members of this list to higher standards, while asking them to ignore or overlook the poor behavior of the individual who has chosen to ignore polite conventions that help to govern the interactions of society. Honestly, some of the posts I’ve seen by this individual directed a while back @ one of the ladies on this list, if directed @ my wife or one of my daughters, would have been cause for a swift & violent physical reaction. In short, while I feel deeply for you, the situation on this list has been ignored for far to long & is snow-balling. The, kind & considerate members of this list are, basically, pleading with you to either appoint a moderator who will act on these sorts of issues or—if life’s circumstances are preventing your full participation in this list’s activities—then relinquish ownership to some one who has the time & where-with-all to make a positive difference. I hope you can understand that all of this is offered with compassion towards you. With great regard, CJ Daniel > On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > > Hello All, > > firstly, this list is not going to die. > > Now, to be completely frank and honest with you all. I have been in the > hospital for days now, visiting with a very dear one to me, who is passing > away. > > So honestly, I cannot address any of these matters right now. > > The fact is, you are all adults and you know enough to ignore posts or > posters who simply want (for whatever reason) to incite or stir the pot so to > speak. > > So if there is a message you do not wish to read, or do not agree with, just > delete it and move on. This is the adult thing to do. > > Neither a list owner or moderator are magic people who make everything > alright. Yes, we can ban people, etc, but in the end, this comes down to you > all managing yourselves in a way which you all are proud of. > > that is what makes this list worth something. > > So if you feel this list is a resource you wish to preserve and help to grow, > as you have been doing now for years, then just simply act in accordance with > those beliefs which you know to be right and the rest will follow. > > I promise you, I will address this more fully when I can. I am sure (or at > least would hope) that in light of these circumstances, that you would > understand. > > My sincerest apologies that there have been issues of late. Some of these are > actually being dealt with already, in the background, but the fact that this > topic exists says that you need more. > > I will do more as soon as I can. > > For now, please use your own good judgement and simply act as you know you > should, and this list will be the kind and helping place that it has been. > > Thank you all for reading this and I will be in touch again soon. > > Sincerely, > > Cara > --- > iOS design and development - LookTel.com > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn > > Follow me on Twitter! > > https://twitter.com/ModelCara > > On Aug 26, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > > Just wondering after reading all the messages of whether this list should be > or not be, is this list going to continue or is it going to die? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.g
Moderator Note - Thanks, and an Official Apology
Hi All, I am certainly glad that Chris and Mark are around as I just saw this craziness. Fortunately when I looked up the address of the sender to remove them from the list, either Chris or Mark had already gotten to him. So let me first thank them for this. Now, to all of you, please let me offer my sincerest apologies that this sort of behavior has occurred here. You certainly don’t need to be subjected to this sort of thing so while my apology isn’t much, I do want you to know that this is definitely important to us and if there is more we can do to prevent this sort of thing in the future, we most definitely will. thank you very much for taking time to read this and for those of you who celebrate, let me wish you a happy Valentine’s Day! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: please help, my hard drive is being inundated
Hi Erik, It sounds like you may have your local backups enabled. If you have Time Machine enabled but do not have your backup drive connected, TM saves backups to your local drive. Needless to say, this can take up an awful lot of space and be incredibly confusing to trace if you are not aware of the feature. These backups are managed automatically by TM and should limit themselves to 80% of your available drive space and be deleted or shrunken when space is needed for other processes. Personally, I have chosen to disable local backups as I back up my machine frequently and redundantly, so I would rather have my SSD space back. There are terminal commands you can enter to disable or enable TM local backups which require that you enter your system password. So if you are not comfortable with the terminal I would suggest not doing this right away until you get familiar with it, and are sure that this is something you need or wish to do. If you have experience with the terminal, here is a link to the info you will need. http://www.mactricksandtips.com/2013/07/view-disable-local-snapshots-backups-in-time-machine.html I will not post the terminal commands here since not only are they not meant for the average user to be entering but the terminal may not be forgiving of mistakes so it can be easily possible to make catastrophic changes to your system. So I’ll let y'all read up on this one yourselves. :) Erik, hope this helps and have a great weekend! Cheers! Cara --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/models/Cara-Quinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 27, 2015, at 5:25 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, I did have a look at activity monitor today when I happened to be sitting in front of my computer and heard the fan spin up. I'm sure I'm missing something, but it wasn't apparent to me which piece of info showed the disk space usage. Do I have to do something special to see that item? Best, Erik Burggraaf > On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:23 AM, Tyler Thompson wrote: > > Have you checked your activity monitor? It can show you what process is > eating up all that space. Once you’re aware of which process is causing the > issue we can start narrowing down a good solution. > > >> On Nov 26, 2015, at 12:19 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> Hi, I'm having a very strange problem. At first I believed it might be my >> 4-year-old SSD showing it's age, but I don't know... >> >> Last week my mac reported that I was low on disk space. So, I moved 20 gb >> of files off into storage drives. An hour after moving all the files, my >> mac again reported low on disk space, and when I looked, sure enough my disk >> appeard to be full. >> >> Today I moved 11 gb more files off to storage and was breathing easy when my >> mac once again reported my disk to be full and sure enough it seems to be. >> >> I'm not putting any more files onto my disk though since the first time this >> happened. >> >> I've run apples disk checking utilities and they tell me my disk is OK for >> what that's worth. My disk's size appears normal. I ran a malware bytes >> scan and it didn't find anything suspicious. >> >> I'd appreciate any suggestions, as if this keeps up, I won't have enough >> disk space left to run an operating system. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries >
Re: VO going silent when reading an email?
HI alex, I see this behavior with some html emails. If your note does not need to preserve the html exactly as is, you could copy the body of the original email via a select all / copy and then paste the copy into a new email or your reply or even TextEdit and work with it that way. Kind of clunky, I know, ;) but it might help. Have a nice evening! Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:16 AM, Alex Hall wrote: Hi all, I have a pretty long email that was sent to me, with five points. I want to forward it, making comments after every point. However, as I arrow down in the message, Voiceover suddenly stops reading. If I toggle Voiceover off and back on, it reads a bit further as I arrow, but then the same thing happens. I have seen this before, but it has never been a huge problem because it has never happened as I was trying to edit the message it suddenly decided it didn't want to read. Has anyone else seen this? How might I solve it? Thanks in advance. Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) mehg...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: VO going silent when reading an email?
HI Nic, I actually do not find this option to work. I have that box unchecked and this does not seem to solve the issue. Not saying this will not work for Alex… Just wanted to let you know. thanks though… Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 17, 2013, at 6:53 PM, Nicholas Parsons wrote: Hi Alex, The problem arises because of indented text. When you reply or forward an email the text of the message being forwarded or replied to is indented to distinguish it visually from the new message text. For whatever reason, VoiceOver has difficulty reading this indented text. What can you do about it? ONe option is to copy the text before you forward or reply to it, and then paste it in once the new message window opens up. This pasted text should work normally. A second option is to turn off the indenting feature in Mail Preferences under the Composing tab. The particular checkbox you're looking for is the increase quote level checkbox. Cheers, Nic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Moderator Note -was- Re: yet more regarding youtube
Hi Steve and list, Steve, though I agree with you and also with your choice of rather forceful language ;) it's completely not cool on this list. So this is your warning. Do not use the colorful language here in future, K? This goes for all of us. Easy on the choice words. K? Thanks a bunch and have a great weekend! Y'all rock! Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:04 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I wonder what it will take to get Google to just get on with implementing HTML5 and dump this fuckin' flash! I refuse to install that parasite on my system under any condition. I may be missing lots of youtube content, but I refuse to compromise my computer with inaccessible flash players and Adobe flatly refuses to make any accessibility improvements to this so-called product. On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Terje Strømberg wrote: > Unfortunately the frame command does not work on other videos. Often after > activating links to videos Voice Over are already interacting with the html > or flash player already, but this may not be true all the time. I use a > physical mouse together with keyboard. In Voice Over utility i have set the > mouse to speak immediately at once. When i move the mouse over the html/flash > player Voice Over says "group". If i left click with the mouse at this time, > i can often interact with the keyboard commands, but have to wait for the > advertisement to finish or there can not be a link under the mouse on the > html/flash player. > > If there is a way to get Voice Over to focus on the player, the > SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR may work. > > Take care > > >> >> Hi >> >> How do you know if it is a flash player or html player? Voice Over only says >> "Group" on this mac. >> >> I found a way to interact with Voice Over on this player. Don`t know if it >> is a html 5 or flash player. The player is a frame. If you are using a >> bluetooth keyboard you may use the FN key in combination with the commands >> described below. At the bottom there is a link to a you tube video about >> some fruit, but below that video there is written You Tube player commands. >> >> 1. First interact with html - VO-SHIFT-M >> 2. Go to next frame by typing the command key VO-COMMAND-F >> 3. Type the mouse down command - SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR >> 4. Type k to play and pause. >> 5. Type M to mute and unmute. Arrow up or down to increase or decrease >> volume. >> 6. ESC to minimase the You Tube player window may be nescessary >> http://brokensecrets.com/2013/04/11/youtube-keyboard-shortcuts/ >> >> Take care >> >> >> 6. okt. 2013 kl. 03:42 skrev Mike Arrigo : >> >>> Yes, I am having the exact same issue, same thing for chrome. Nice to know >>> I am not the only one. >>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:47 AM, Ray Foret jr wrote: >>> It seems that if a video is not an HTML 5 video, it will not play in Safari anymore. I do have the latest flash player. Also, I discovered that every single time I do click on an HTML 5 video, the volume is all the way down to zero on the player and there is no way to play videos which are not HTML 5 at all. Any thoughts? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubs
Re: Bricked my Macbook Air. Is a genius the only option?
HI Mike, You mentioned you have a backup of your data? If you do, try starting your MBA and holding down the command and r keys when the chime sounds. Hold them for a few seconds. (at least 5 ish) Once you do that, you can then enable VoiceOver by pressing function-command-F5. This may take a few seconds to work. I sometimes seemingly need to do this a few times. ;) You'll see a table which should show you four options. One of these options should be Reinstall OS 10. >From here you can reinstall a clean copy of OSX. Once you do that, you can then restore from your Time Machine backup. Hope this helps! Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 21, 2013, at 10:57 AM, Mike wrote: Hi everyone, This morning I started the latest software update on my Macbook Air and maybe about half way through my two year old ran through the office, hooked the power cord on her foot, and yanked it out of the laptop. Now there is no power, no sounds, no signs of life at all. Fortunately I have a few backups so I'm not dying or anything but is there any tricks that I can do on my own before taking it to a genius? Thanks for any tips! Happy almost Halloween! Mike M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Moderator Note - IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ - Donations for one of our own
Hi All, I normally would never ever allow any messages here about donations. IN this case though, this situation very much warrants this. One of our listers and a dear friend of mine, has had an extreme tragedy with a loved one and I am officially asking for donations on his behalf. Even a single dollar will be greatly appreciated here. Now, before anyone objects to this, there is a time and a place to allow a note like this. This is that time and place. This is simply the right thing to do, and I know that when you read the below account, you will agree with me. If anyone takes issue with this then I urge you to write me privately and furthermore I extend my deepest apologies for wasting your time. For those who would like to donate, there is a PayPal button on the following page. http://www.markburninghawk.net/music.html You may read this story at Mark's FaceBook page and I've also pasted it below. Again for those for whom this is an issue, remember, your delete key works just fine in this instance. :) thanks for obliging me. FaceBook link and story are below this note. Thanks to all of you for being here and making these lists what they are. I wish you and yours all a wonderful weekend and thank you very much for whatever donations you can share. Take care of each other. :) Sincerely, Cara quinn Mark Baxter FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/markburninghawk.baxter The Story Last Saturday afternoon, taking advantage of the beautiful weather before the rainy winter arrived, Amy and I decided to go for a short hike. We drove to the Damnation Creek trail head on HWY 101, near Klamath, CA, and intended to be back at our car within a couple of hours, as it was already late afternoon, and would get dark soon. Ezra was guiding me as usual, and Luke was shepherding us all as usual, and we were both enjoying the rugged landscape and giant redwood trees. Softly scented air was dappled with sun and shade as the trail first descended, then wound up to a narrow wooden bridge, at a fork with the Coastal Loop trail. We decided to venture a ways down the Coastal Loop trail, hoping it would "loop," back to the footbridge. No such luck. At first, the trail, mostly composed of an old highway and well maintained, was great for hiking, so we continued. By the time it got narrow and steep again, and Amy could see the ocean through the trees ahead, we needed to turn back; it was getting dark. We tiredly turned and made our way back down the trail, until we were mostly back to the footbridge. We stopped to catch our breaths and let the dogs pee, and somehow, Amy fell. I heard her fall, cry out, then a crash, then nothing. I called out, "AMY! Amy, can you answer me?" I heard nothing for a few minutes. When I heard a sound, I didn't think it was a human making it. It was Amy screaming. I had to get down the cliff she had fallen over, to ascertain her condition. I somewhat climbed, mostly fell down to where she was. She had landed badly, on her back, on the rocks at the bottom of an old creek bed. Luke was with her, and Ezra followed me down. Her screams of pain were constant, long and loud. She kept saying, "NO! NO! NO!" over and over, and told me, "I can't feel my legs!" I sat for a while, held her hand, listened to her scream. I knew I had to somehow get help. I had my iPhone 5 with me, but when I checked, I had no service. There was no way I could move Amy; she was far too badly injured to climb up the cliff. I had to climb up the cliff, helping Ezra up with me, and find a place where I had enough cell service to call 911 and get a rescue team in to get Amy. So, as she screamed, I tucked my maroon sweatshirt carefully under her head, and said, "Baby, I love you; I will be back with help, I have to go get help." She just kept on screaming. I found a chimney up the cliff, hauled Ezra up and got back to the trail, which was fortunately very well-defined. I still had no service. I had no choice but to walk with Ezra guiding me down the trail until I could call 911. Fortunately, Ezra was able to follow the trail, even in the dark. Luke also had come up with us, and stuck close to us. We walked about a quarter mile until I got one bar of cell coverage. With that one bar, having to call back ten or twelve times, I got 911 to contact the sheriff, who sent in the volunteer search and rescue team to find us. There was some consternation when I told the sheriff that I couldn't give visual landmarks. I explained that I was blind, had been hiking with my sighted girlfriend, and she had fallen. I gave them the names of the trails, but, No, I did not think I could get back to my vehicle, and no I couldn't describe where I was. I told them about the bridge at the trail fork. Then my iPhone battery got dangerously low. They had my GPS coordinates by that tim
Follow up to Moderator Note yesterday concerning donations for one of our own
Hello again All, I just wanted to give you an update on Mark and Amy's story. Firstly though, please let me offer my sincere and deepest thanks to you all who have shown your support and well-wishes. This not only means a tremendous amount to Mark and Amy, but also means the world to me that we can come together as a community to support each other when we are in need. Some of you have asked where the donations will go. Any donations will be used for expenses associated with this incident and the medical care from this. Mark has said that he will keep a record of everything associated with this. Already it cost hundreds of dollars for Mark to simply tow Amy's car back home. This cost has now been taken care of for them, fortunately. So thank you all! :) You all are making a real difference here so I'm truly grateful to you!… Now, I'd like to share Mark's email address here so that you may send your support to him. If you cannot offer financial support then please do consider offering Amy and him your most valuable emotional support. It is truly welcome… Below I'll first share Mark's email address and then a copy of the recent article in a local Oregon paper about this incident which also offers an update on Amy's condition. If you would like to know more, please do write directly to Mark if you would? Now that this is known here, please let me suggest that we now move this to a more personal level off the lists. Feel free to write me or Mark and do be assured that any developments, I will share. Otherwise, I'm happy (and will now encourage us) to continue this off the lists. Thanks so very, very much to you all for your support! I cannot express enough how much this means to them and to me. Y'all are AWESOME!!! Have a wonderful weekend! Info and article follow… Sincerely, Cara --- Email Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com The Article The Curry Coastal Pilot - Couple survives hiking ordeal Mark Baxter and his girlfriend Amy Regan with their dogs, who were instrumental in efforts to rescue Amy after a hiking accident. Submitted photo Brookings resident Mark Baxter still isn’t sure what to make of what he calls his misadventure along Damnation Creek near Klamath last weekend — an afternoon jaunt that landed his girlfriend, Amy Regan, in ICU in Portland with a broken back and no feeling in her arms and legs. “There was a bunch of stupid decisions all down the line,” Baxter said Wednesday of what was supposed to have been an easy afternoon hike. “I got lucky. I got damn lucky.” The two didn’t bring a survival kit, and were wearing sweatpants and T-shirts. A friend has since reassured them that their clothing sounded appropriate for a two-hour hike along a popular trail. The 3.4-mile trek threads through a redwood forest down 1,000 vertical feet into a rocky, secluded beach. It’s rated “easy,” and the couple are experienced hikers. “At first, the trail was great, so we continued,” Baxter said. “By the time it got narrow and steep again, and Amy could see the ocean through the trees ahead, we needed to turn back; it was getting dark.” When they did, Regan and her dog, Luke, slipped and fell from the steep embankment. Baxter later learned she likely slipped on rotting timbers left from an old footbridge. “I heard her fall, cry out, then a crash, then nothing,” Baxter said. “I called out, ‘Amy! Can you answer me!’ And I heard nothing … for minutes.” When he did hear something, he didn’t think it was human. But it was, and it was Amy. “I do not think I have ever in my life witnessed that much suffering and agony,” he said. “It is a sound I hope never to hear again.” Baxter and his dog, Ezra, scrambled down the hill to rescue her. “She’d landed on her back, on the rocks at the bottom of an old creek bed,” Baxter said. “And she kept saying, ‘No! No! No!’ over and over ... and told me she couldn’t feel her legs.” Baxter struggled back up the incline and worked his way about a quarter-mile down the dark path until his iPhone finally got one bar. It took at least four 911 calls — and disconnects due to poor reception in the valley — before he was able to relay their situation to Del Norte’s Search and Rescue team. He gave them the name of the trail; he told them about the footbridge. But, no, he didn’t think he could get back to his vehicle. No, he couldn’t describe where he was. They ascertained his GPS coordinates, and Baxter’s phone died. A few hours later, he was getting cold. He had the dogs with him, but he’d left his sweatshirt with Regan. And he couldn’t tell if rescue crews were approaching through the thick trees and the dark night. Baxter is blind. Mark and Amy The 44-year-old Brookings man met his girlfriend on Facebook — he the disillusioned musician and she looking for a new life away from the strip-mine town of Butte, Mont. She joined him here six months ago. Amy has her own challenges, Baxter said, with psychiatric issues and a condition that le
Accessible App: BitCoin Ticker
Hi All, Here is an accessible Bitcoin ticker. the app lists currency types on the ticker screen near the top. Below these, are a list of markets, and then below that (toward the middle of the screen is the actual updating info on bitcoin for the market and currency you have chosen. Under that are ads, unless you upgrade for 2.99 USD I believe. Lastly, at the bottom of the screen, are the Ticker, Alerts and About tabs. The Alerts tab is of particular interest as you may set an alert to pop up when the bitcoin value either drops below a certain threshold or goes above a threshold. These alerts can be set for a particular market and type of currency and you may have several alerts configured at once. Enjoy! Here's the linkie! Bitcoin Ticker by v0 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-ticker/id440229059?mt=8 -And here, below, is the description. Have a great day! Cara :) --- This app displays and monitors the current Bitcoin BTC exhange rates Alerts are sent as free push notifications directly to your phone The following exchanges are supported Mt Gox USD, EUR, GBP, AUD, CAD, PLN, RUB, CNY, JPY BtcE RUB, USD, EUR Bitstamp USD Bitcurex PLN, EUR VirtEx CAD BTC China CNY The exchanges are checked for updates at least every minute Keep in mind that push notifications are not always delivered to the phone e g if your phone is out of coverage , so it s a good idea to check the ticker once in a while as well --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessible App: BitCoin Ticker
HI Cheree, Yes, bitcoin is beginning to be used by some retailers. This app is a ticker though, not a wallet. So you would not use it to spend or receive bitcoins. The purpose of this app is simply to track the trading value of bitcoin flexibly and conveniently. Hope this helps. Cara :) On Dec 10, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Cheree Heppe wrote: Cheree Heppe here Have you found use for bit coins and, if so, how and why? Regards, Cheree HeppeSent from my IPhone 4S On 10 Dec 2013, at 11:53, Cara Quinn wrote: Hi All, Here is an accessible Bitcoin ticker. the app lists currency types on the ticker screen near the top. Below these, are a list of markets, and then below that (toward the middle of the screen is the actual updating info on bitcoin for the market and currency you have chosen. Under that are ads, unless you upgrade for 2.99 USD I believe. Lastly, at the bottom of the screen, are the Ticker, Alerts and About tabs. The Alerts tab is of particular interest as you may set an alert to pop up when the bitcoin value either drops below a certain threshold or goes above a threshold. These alerts can be set for a particular market and type of currency and you may have several alerts configured at once. Enjoy! Here's the linkie! Bitcoin Ticker by v0 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-ticker/id440229059?mt=8 -And here, below, is the description. Have a great day! Cara :) --- This app displays and monitors the current Bitcoin BTC exhange rates Alerts are sent as free push notifications directly to your phone The following exchanges are supported Mt Gox USD, EUR, GBP, AUD, CAD, PLN, RUB, CNY, JPY BtcE RUB, USD, EUR Bitstamp USD Bitcurex PLN, EUR VirtEx CAD BTC China CNY The exchanges are checked for updates at least every minute Keep in mind that push notifications are not always delivered to the phone e g if your phone is out of coverage , so it s a good idea to check the ticker once in a while as well --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
iOS and Mac development Google Group MV-Dev 2.0
Hi All, I wanted to write to let you know that the MV-Dev group for Mac and iOS developers is alive once again! :) It's a 2.0 if you'll pardon the analogy. ;) For those interested, the list is meant for support and improvement for ammeters and professionals alike, at any point in their progress / learning. The list page is at: http://groups.google.com/group/MV-Dev You will need to request an invitation and then be approved by a moderator in order to start posting. If you have any other questions or concerns, you may write me at caraqu...@caraquinn.com Also, please do share this message wherever you see fit. Now, more than ever, we need a place for support of existing blind and visually impaired developers (and developers of accessible software in general) for Mac and iOS, as well as a place where new developers of accessible software can learn and share their knowledge. So I'd like to invite those interested in developing software for Apple products to come and join us!… Happy coding and happiest of holidays to you and yours! Smiles, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Moderator note - Latest updates on list changes
Hello All; -Big week this week, with WWDC and such. Also as you may have noticed, we do in fact have a new moderator. Mark Taylor has already said hello and been kind enough to offer his assistance behind the scenes with moderation of these two lists. However I did want to make an important note here. There's been some question as to the complete mod team. For the record, Geoff and Carolyn are still in fact moderating these groups as well, so I invite you to continue giving them the kind of courtesy and consideration you all have been known for. they've put a whole lot of time and energy into these two lists in assisting with their smooth running for some time now. So go ahead and take the time to read their notes to the groups when you see them. K? also, do feel free to write them as you have been doing, with any list concerns or questions. I believe that the four of us as active mods will make a great team for these two groups and with your help as list participants, we'll continue to have the very best online resources of info for the Mac, iPhone and Apple products on the web! As for some quick list business, please do remember that as VIPhone and MacVisionaries are very large communities with really active folks making them up, we regularly experience high traffic. Please make your notes count and put more into them than just one line or one word of text. this simply takes up bandwidth and really doesn't contribute meaningfully to a conversation. Please go ahead and really make your notes count. Send emails to the lists, which are worth reading. :) Know what I mean? this is not chat, instant messaging or Twitter. This is email so really show us what you know. :) K? YOu're a smart bunch of people. Let us see that; dazzle us!… :) Also, I invite you to post Apple-related content here. If you have a comment, blog or site which is relevant to Apple or Apple products, then by all means go ahead and post it so you can share it with the groups. If you're not sure, then simply contact either myself, Geoff, Carolyn or Mark and ask us if it's cool to post. Just don't use the lists for non-Apple content or your own personal advertising. Know what I mean? Simply put if it's relevant to Apple than it's pretty much fair game here. if not, then ask us first. K? -And, as always, all questions concerning Apple and Apple-related products are welcome here!… :) Thanks so much to all of you for reading, and for making these lists what they are today! I want you to know that you're a part of the two premier informational resources for visually impaired Mac / iPhone users on the internet! You've made them the best! So let's keep going higher and further, shall we?… Thanks again and have a totally rockin' day / evening wherever you may be! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: List for blind developers?
hey Zack; The name of the list you may have gotten is MV-Dev, and you can find it at: http://groups.google.com/group/mv-dev Have a great evening and Enjoy! Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 8, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi All, I recall reading earlier on this list about a place for blind Coco and CocoTouch developers to discuss their concerns, specifically developing without Interface Builder. I can't remember the name of the list at the moment. Can anybody here supply it? I just joined the iOS developer program. Best and thanks, Zack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: How many installs do I get with a purchase of Windows 7?
Hi All; This is a quick reminder to keep the Windows discussion related to its use on the Mac. So rather than basic Windows questions themselves, if we could simply keep the discussion here, related essentially to the Apple experience,that would be great! Thanks so much and do have a wonderful day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 20, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: What is the going rate for windows 7 home premium these days? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Google Voice) 657-229-2105 Sent from my IMac On Jun 20, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Eric Brinkman wrote: > Hi listers, > > I bought Windows 7 to use with VMWare Fusion. I'm thinking about > purchasing a new Mac, and would like to run Windows on it. Is there > anything special I need to do with regard to authorization (as in > Jaws)? I will only run Windows on my new Mac, so is there anything I > should do to "uninstall" windows from my old mac? > > Thanks in advance. > > Eric > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: brouzing history?
People, please! trying to moderate eachother's behavior is really the job of the moderators. :) On a list like this, this usually only results in more posts because each party involved then tries to justify themselves, so please leave this sort of thing up to us, K? If you have a problem with someone or their actions on the list, then please email Carolyn, Mark or myself privately and talk with us. We'll go from their. Does this make sense? Please try to show eachother the same respect you'd like to be shown. It's really as simple as that. Chris, Unless I've misunderstood your tone, I've seen many of your posts in the past, enough to know that you wouldn't appreciate the tone you seem to have taken with Cliff, so please just take a quick breath in future, before posting, if you would, and I'm sure you'll do fine. :) If I've misread your tone, then my apologies, otherwise, just please do give the above a bit of consideration, K? :) Thanks All, and have a great evening! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: No need to talk to him that way, just give him the answer. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jun 23, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Cliff, > > Two weeks? My! Goodness! This is so! easy! > > Have you by chance thought to look in your menu bar of Safari? There is a > menu bar selection call... Gasp... "History." The 3rd option down says... > "Browse... B, r, o, w, s, e, not bruise, b, r, u, i, s, e... all history... > Command+Option+2. This is num row 2, by the way, not num pad. > > Chris. > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: > >> Okay, have been trying to figure this one out for 2 weeks. What is the key >> stroke to get to my history in Safari? Thanks. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note - Please read - list policy change for one-line notes
Hello All; Hope everyone is having a terrific day / evening wherever you may be! I'm writing to let you know of an updated list policy we have, regarding one line notes. For those who may not be aware of this, On VIPhone and MacVisionaries, we really encourage you all to put more into your notes than a single line of text or one or two words. Further to this, we actually ask that people please avoid posting such notes. The reason for this is that as we always have new people joining these groups, reading one line answers to questions or 'thank you' type messages with nothing else in the body of the note really can just leave someone asking 'What is this thread really about?' So rather than have this happen, please just take a minute before you click send to reread your note and see if it makes sense by itself. Does your answer actually stand on its own? If someone is reading just your note, can they make sense of what you're talking about? We absolutely understand that everyone slips from time to time and can dash off a quick message and just click send without a second thought. It happens; it's just reality. :) What we're asking here is that people be aware of this and simply flesh out their notes just a little bit more. These lists are for email, not for chat. -Make sense? So here's the policy change. rather than placing people who continually post one-liners on no-posting status, (which means people cannot then post to either group) what we're going to do now is place such people on moderated status. this is definitely not a punishment thing, but just to keep the noise level down on the lists. These two groups are pretty large at this point, and it's really important for us to keep a high level of quality in our information as our traffic is pretty high. -Just be considerate of eachother when you post, and really put enough into your notes to make them make sense to everyone; even those who may not be following the entire thread to which you're responding. Does this make sense? If anyone has any questions, please don't hesitate to email any of the list mods. Cara Quinn (list owner) : modelc...@gmail.com Carolyn Haas : chaas0...@gmail.com or Mark Taylor : mk...@ucla.edu Thanks so much to you all for reading and please do enjoy your day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
MOderator Note - Please read
Hi All; Firstly, Mark is due to post a mod note as well today, so I'll let him speak for himself. For myself, I want to first apologize for being away / quiet for several weeks. The last two and a half or so have been taken up with quite the persistent and annoying little illness. So I haven't been keeping touch with the lists much. HOwever, in the short time that I've had today to go through just the scantest few posts, I've already seen enough to warrant this additional mod note. So here goes. Despite some speculations here about the purpose of the list being to drive traffic to blogs or that the mods no longer care about the quality / rules of the lists; let me just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and frankly I'm simply amazed at the level of derision that some listers have begun showing and sharing on this list. -This is a mailing list; moderation teams change and grow all the time on such lists and forums. This is no excuse to start rumors or mistreat eachother. Just because a mod might not be there every single second of every day, doesn't mean that the list guidelines and etiquette go out the window. Now please know, I'm not talking to new listers here, so much when I say this, but really to those of you who have been around here a while, and who ABSOLUTELY know better. If you want to trash the list,the people on it, or the mods, then please, by all means, go right ahead, but for God's sake, do it off the list! lol! Know what I mean? Please seriously have just the slightest bit of courtesy for eachother and for the list itself. If you no longer wish to be here, you know how to leave. But please please please be adults and don't go ruining this valuable resource for others whom may really like it or need it. That's not fair and it's disrespectful in the extreme. Regardless of whether we post list guidelines or not, I'm really talking here about just plain, general, basic good ole' netiquette. Treat others as you would like to be treated. YOu're all smart peeps here! YOu can do this! -KNow what I mean?… :) Now please; I'll be catching up on tons of email, please do treat eachother with courtesy and respect?… I thank you for your time and will get back with you soon. Have a great day / evening, wherever you may be!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator note -was- Re: To the Moderators
Hi again All; Let me just respectfully request that we take this topic of other lists off this list. Also, if any of you have real genuine concerns for the moderators of this list, then by all means, get in contact with us off the list. Please please please do continue this privately and keep this exchange where it belongs, K? Thanks again and a lovely day to you all! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: John, thanks for the info on these other lists. I definitely will check them out. I don't see any reason to unsub from the other list, but we'll discuss this off list if needed. Just because I don['t post much, it is a resourceful list. I just felt I didn't get very many replies aside from one member and I have his/her e-mail address and skype info, so it's not like I couldn't just call them or write them privately, which is what I've been doing. I'm on Mac4theBlind, but I'm more of a lerker there, none the less. Hope that's OK. If not though, talk to me off list about it as there isn't a need to bore others with that personal part of the list, I'd not think. Anyways, my e-mail address is: clgillan...@gmail.com If that doesn't work, then try me at: cgilla...@carolina.rr.com Either address should reach me just fine. Chris. - Original Message - From: "John Panarese" To: Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: To the Moderators As the owner of mac4theblind, just to clarify this misconception, the list is intended to be small and low traffic. It gets the job done for those who are subscribed, and there is no pretenses made of it trying to be an alternative to any other list out there. If it doesn't do the job for you, you are more than welcomed to unsubscribe or I can do it for you. As other lists out there, there is the Mac VoiceOver list run through http://www.icanworthisthing.com There is also,as mentioned, the Mac-access list. http://www.mac-access.net There are probably others out there as well, but those come to mind off the top of my head. In time, though, as people become more familiar with Lion, this list will settle down and return more towards the helpful and smooth-running list we are used to being a part of. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > He's probably talking about Mac4theblind. I'm on it, but I almost never post > there. Not because I can't do so, it's just I felt I really wasn't getting > near the help on that list that I have and still am getting on this list. I > don't think that they're many members on the other list, actually. I know > Sarah Alowami's there, and maybe like 10 or 20 others that regularly post. > Trust me, it's really not worth it in my personal opinion. Again though, > that's only my opinion. If you'd like, Ronald, I can try to find the > subscription info for you. I make no guarantees. I know a friend of mine > had to help me with finding the sub info, but again, if you would like to > subscribe, I'll be more than happy to try to figure out the address to do so. > > Aside that list and the VIPhone list, those are the only lists I know of. > Apparently there is also a maccessibility list, but I've never admittedly > tried looking upo the info. > > I'll bet you it's probably on > > maccessibility.net > though. > > You want me to take a look for ya? > > Let me know. glad to help, if I can. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Ronald McEwan" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: To the Moderators > > > So do tell, what is the other list name. > > > In the Journey, > > Ron > > On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> If you like strictness, you should subscribe to the other Mac list and I can >> tell you that there are so many guide lines, you can't not talk about >> anything unless its Mac related. >> >> I quit that list and am glad for this list and the relaxed aproach it has as >> it was stuffy before so I came off it. Its much better than the other list. >> >> Kawal. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 28 Jul 2011, at 04:52 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Ron: >>> It is very much like a free for all. There is one owner, Cara, Quinn and >>> one moderator, Mark Taylor. There are no guidelines in place, because >>> according to
Re: semi-pro list
Hi Cliff and list; -Just a reminder here, that I've actually asked that this topic be closed now. Please, if you'd like to discuss other lists then please do it elsewhere, K? Thanks so very much and please do have a totally awesome evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: Would lurkers be allowed? By this I mean like Rose just reads and stays quiet, would we be allowed to do this on your new list? Thanks. Kliphton SR (twitter&Skype) kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group)http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians On Jul 28, 2011, at 1:14 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > Hi Courtney: > By semiprofessional, I mean a list where there is even and decent exchange of > questions and resources, and ideas, and not the narcissistic ego-driven > chest-pounding nonsense and blubbering about what everyone else is doing > wrong. I would like to haves a list Where people are treated with respect, > and you don't have to read about the trouble someone went through to spoon > feed you the fix for your problem, or how great someone thinks his own > podcast is, or how badly someone think Apple is doing. In short, stuff that > matters to members one and mostly all. > > That's my vision. > > Carolyn > On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:18 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm just curious, what do you mean by "simi professional"? >> Thanks, Courtney >> On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >>> So sorry to see you leave us. Indeed, let me go further. I'm sorry to see >>> the former quality of this list degenerated in to something that, to speak >>> frankly, it has no business being. It certainly was not this way when I >>> first came on board. To speak candidly, it would appear that certain >>> people get very agitated when Apple, (or for that matter anybody else) >>> doesn't respond immediately to them and solve all their problems like the >>> world revolts around them. No Chris, I'm not picking on you particularly; >>> though it may perhaps seem otherwise. Look, let's face facts. We al of us >>> are trying to get used to this new beast we find under our hoods. Some of >>> us like it and others have issues. Frankly, it seems to me that emotions >>> are running rather too high to suit the circumstances. I'm remaining >>> though. Why? Simple. I know that, eventually, this too shall pass and >>> the list will return to normal. At least, that sure better happen. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> Facebook: >>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:16 AM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>> Hello list members: I'm writing in response to some of the latest goings on here. I'm Carolyn, a former moderator of the group. When I was asked to back off, and then told summarily that hundred of people had complained about my mod style, I decided perhaps my expectations were just too stringent, and pushing people away. I can not continue to be on this list as it currently is. I'm considering starting a resource list for semi-professional interchange , and would like to know if there's any others interested in such. If I'm alone in this endeavor, at least I'll know for sure that I tried. My email is chaas0...@gmail.com. Please only interested people respond, as I've had enough hate mail for one lifetime.:) Take care, and thank you for reading. Carolyn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- >
Mod note -was- Re: The Chris Gilland saga.
Cliff and list; Once again, this is an additional note that I've also asked that we keep this sort of thing off this group, K? If anyone has any opinions, critique or suggestions for the mods about our character, or how this list works, then please write us directly and keep it off the list. K? Thanks so much and again, do have a terrific night! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Kliph&Sharrie wrote: This confirms everything I heard about this list before I got on it. And most of them were negative, and not about Karel either. I'm probably just adding to the drama, but decided to add my 2 cent worth. CJ, email me off list again or call me and we can catch up. On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:40 PM, CJ Daniel wrote: > Okay, > > First, that's sadly hysterical. Secondly, why hasn't this guy been sent > packing. As a Christian, I'm sorry for his problems, but reluctant to > subject myself or others to his, very obvious, social disorders. Anyway, @ > the very least, this post puts what I've been seeing, for over a month, in > some sort of prospective. > > CJ > > > On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings y'all, >> >> Since there was a decision in early June to go to what amounts to an >> unmonitored list where the mod team is primarily interested in driving >> traffic to a blog site and "being positive" meaning that no standards are >> enforced, why not have some fun and share a year old (but still amusing) >> saga of Christopher-Mark "I'm! Abs!olu!te!ly! the! Lion! GURU!" Gilland. >> Clearly we're dealing with some pretty major personality disorders and >> immaturity, which wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't affecting so many >> others who are trying to follow the list closely for assistance taming the >> Lion. >> >> The reader is here by admonished to be sure to have several boxes of tissues >> on hand for all the tears (most likely of laughter). Also, the following >> text includes language that I would normally never place on a public list, >> even indirectly, but it is needed for perspective, and hey, as one of my >> former managers often said: "you can say anything you want, on your last >> day on the job!!". I've reached the point where I'm ready for Mr. Joyful >> noise to kick me off the list and then maybe Carolyn and others can start an >> alternative option where the narcissism and chat group content is kept to a >> minimum and a modicum of list etiquette is actually enforced by the mods, >> which may not be interpreted as being positive and making a joyful noise by >> some. >> >> Okay, now that the box of clean-ex is within reach and the kitties are out >> of ear shot, here goes!! >> >> The following list exchange autta be good for a few laughs. The initial >> dialog on this support ticket submitted to CodeFactory is also very amusing. >> For one thing Chris turned me into a CF employee, but more importantly my >> feelings were absolutely crushed because he was angry at Scott over things >> that I actually said. >> >> Also amusing that codeFactory was held responsible?! >> Geoff >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Chris Gilland" >> To: ; "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" >> >> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 2:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [MSP] Weird behavior with touch pro 2 >> God fucking dammit! he asked for help, and help is what I gave him, unlike >> some of you immature nuts on here refuse to do!Get over it! >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Geoff Waaler" >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:13 PM >> Subject: [MSP] A little levity. >> After yesterday I can't resist sharing this post from another list. Perhaps >> a review of John 8-7 is in order? >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Christopher Gilland" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:20 PM >> Subject: Vulgar language on the list >> Guies, if I hear the f word one more time on this list, quoting someone else >> or not, I'm leaving, case closed. I'm not subjecting myself to that type >> language. You're certain entited to how you wanna talk, however, I'm a >> Christian, and will not stand for it, point blank. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Scott Granados" >> To: "Mobile Speak/Magnifier Pocket Users List" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [MSP] A little levity. >> Hahahahahaha >> >> That's classic, >> On one list he's a Christian, on the other he's swearing like a sailor. >> >> What would Jesus do? >> >> lol >> >> -Original Message- >> From: msp_mailing-boun...@codefactory.cat >> [mailto:msp_mailing-boun...@codefactory.cat] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland >> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 14:41 AM >> To: mss_mail...@codefactory.es >> Cc: msp_mail...@codefa
Re: Macvisionaries Wiki
Hey Kevin; While I'd certainly never discourage such a wiki, I will say that though it may be difficult for seasoned Mac users to hear the same questions over and over again, it can actually be a good thing in that new users will see answers to common questions that they themselves may not even know they have yet. This was partially what Josh and I had in mind when we were discussing Maccessibility.net. While it is certainly recognized, There's a caveat. Unfortunately, the reality at the moment, is that most people are way more likely to simply post a question here or on another list long before they consult Google or a wiki for their answer. This is actually part of the purpose of why this and other lists exist. This list can be a gateway for new or aspiring users of the Mac / Apple products where they can get their feet wet so to speak, and if they choose, become experts in their own right. this list is a journey for each person on it. We're not all at the same place, but we're all in essence going to the same place. -Know what I mean? Great post though and good luck if you decide to go with your idea! Sites like AppleVis have become quite popular for iPhone apps, so perhaps your wiki would take off just fine. :) Have a terrific night! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 4:08 AM, Kevin Shaw wrote: Hello list members, I'm discovering a lot of messages on the list that seem to be asking the same questions over and over. I'm wondering if it would be more efficient for several creative people out there to create a Macvisionaries wiki which would contain answers to common questions and cover several common topics such as: • Primers on switching from PC screen readers to the Mac • Voiceover basics and common keystrokes in Mac OS X. • Common commands, workarounds and techniques for programs such as Safari, Mail, Address Book and so on. • Tutorials on working with said programs and others such as Garage Band, Logic, twitter clients and other third party software. • Contacts for developers, accessibility status and other information about less accessible programs. • Other things I haven't thought of. Just thought I'd throw this idea out there. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mod note - a final note from me tonight -was- Re: List Moderator Message To Come Later Today
Hello again All, and a lovely night to you and day to some. Let me remind you that there is to be no sniping / flaming on this list. This is one thing we just can't tolerate here. Surely you realize how many millions of better ways there are to communicate positively with eachother here so that you can be heard, and cary on a greater dialogue with your list mates. If you don't like someone, then please simply take it up off-list with them. This way we all benefit. The parties involved pay closer attention to eachother and the list can go on as it ought. -Make sense?… Let me just leave you all with a question this evening… What kind of list do you want? Please don't answer on the list, in fact, please don't even answer to the mods. -Just think about this picture of your ideal list and then imagine how you would fit into it. K? How would this list be able to function smoothly with as many smart / cool people as we have? How would it be the best resource possible? -and how would you, yourself, make that happen? What would be your contribution?… Please keep this in mind for a while, as you go about your night or day. I'm sure some will be glad that I'm done chattering for the day now! :) Have a terrific night and catch ya'll on the flip! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:11 PM, Tammy wrote: Hi, Nice to see you’re reading the posts, but what’s the point of the below? Make a joyful noise? lol lol lol If I do will my behaviour be noticed? Tammy From: M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 3:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: List Moderator Message To Come Later Today Hello, All, There have been some interesting posts to the lists and I will address them later today. I am posting this short note so that you know that the lists mods are reading the posts. Make a joyful noise, Today, Ok? Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Safari
Actually there is a partial work-around. Once you've typed text into a field, interact with that field. YOu'll now at least be able to reread / edit your text. this doesn't solve the issue of the characters or words not being spoken as you type them, but it does at least improve the situation just a bit. HTH and have a great day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 2, 2011, at 4:17 PM, André Nuno Soares wrote: Hello, This happens with Safari 5.1 in Snow Leopard. There's no fix for it for now, except upgrading to Lion, sorry… HTH, André On Aug 2, 2011, at 10:14 PM, Laura Bratton wrote: > I am having the same problem. It has happened to me on all websites > where I have tried to enter text. Two of the websites are Facebook > and caringbridge.org > Does anyone have ideas how to correct this? > Thank you, > laura Selena Sang wrote: >> Hey, I don't know if it's me with the problem with the new update to safari >> and pages like Google, but I have been experiencing some problems with text >> fields. When I go to google to search, voiceover does not read anything I'm >> typing though it does type. After my search is complete and I want to search >> again, sometimes it reads as I'm typing. I've noticed this with a few other >> sites but can't think of them right now. Does anyone know if this is a >> google thing or a voiceover thing or a safari thing? >> >> Selena > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: gathering an imported audio book in Itunes
Mark, have you tried selecting your 'Recently Added' playlist in iTunes? This will show the latest files you've added so that you can either rename them or change their classification to audio book if you choose.. HTH and have a wonderful day! Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I have an audio book whose tracks have names like 0101-0.mp3 and go all the way through 0115_0.mp3 before switching to 02-1_0.mp3, obviously ripped off the disks but not given sensible names. When I selected all five disks with 18 or so tracks each, Itunes imported them and then promptly mixed them in with all sorts of other "track 1," titles. The upshot of this is that I cannot, for the life of me, think of a search term which will let me gather all the various little tracks into one order that Itunes will play sequentially. Is there any way to gather all of them together so I can play them? Thanks. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Moderator Note - IMPORTANT - Please close the O T topics now…
Hi All; The Lockerz topic is going a bit too astray for this list, so I'm asking that it be closed now. This means that people asking for invites to this site need to be contacting eachother off this list starting immediately. NO more discussion of this should occur here… Now, as always, anything regarding Mac use is fine, however, this is really way over the line in this regard. So once again, let's close this topic now and take all of the discussion of invitations and points etc. off of this list as of now. Thank you all so much and do have a lovely morning / evening!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: zoom on the IPhone Camera
Wow chris! that's my iPhone Quick Tip verbatim! lol! -thought I recognized it!… Thanks very much for answering this on-list and forwarding the tip along for everyone! I sure do appreciate it!… Have a terrific day!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Jul 13, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Chris Moore wrote: Kev, Simply bring up the camera; double tap on the viewfinder and then flick to the right, three times. YOu’ll now see the zoom control. Flicking up or down on this control with a single finger will increment or decrement the value by ten percent respectively. the highest value is 100 and the lowest value is 0. NOTE: Each time you flick once your focus will be moved to the viewfinder again, so you’ll need to flick right three times to get to the zoom control. Enjoy! and happy shooting! Chris On 12 Jul 2010, at 21:02, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > Isn't there a way to zoom in a picture on the IPhone camera that is > accessible? > > Kev > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
