HI All,

thanks to everyone for your thoughtful posts / responses to this thread.

Kayaker has been with us for a while now and yes, he is in the process of 
becoming a list moderator. It is actually down to my being very busy and 
Google's unpredictable strange behaviors that he is not a list mod already.

So yes, what Kayaker is saying is essentially true. iOS posts are welcome here 
but if they get past a point where they are not only exclusively iOS but then 
also go off-topic or meander, then yes, they will probably find a better home 
on VIPhone where the focus is specific to iOS devices.

So the take-away from this is that iOS posts are in fact welcome here but since 
the list focus is Mac, it's best to kind of gradually move them over to VIPhone 
when possible.

Having said this, I certainly do want members to feel welcome here, especially 
those who have been here a while, as you have Kawal.

So I am inclined to have a bit of latitude in regard to how strict we are on 
Mac vs iOS topics. Kayaker has the right idea though. Eventually it would be 
nice to have MacVisionaries be for Mac and VIPhone be for iOS. Naturally there 
will always be a bit of overlap which is fine and we have been fortunate to 
pretty much always keep a good balance here.

So Kawal, don't go. :) You are welcome here. :)

If anyone has any further thoughts on this sort of list management then please 
do feel free to email me privately. caraqu...@caraquinn.com

Thanks for reading and do have a lovely day / evening, wherever you may be!...

Thanks,

Cara :)
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On Jul 2, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:

Well I'm going to stick to my point that I work full time and can't access 
multiple lists. Since this person is the moderator I have offered to 
unsubscribe which I don't really want to do as I have been on this list since 
2010 and I don't have 24 7 to look on multiple lists. So sorry., 

> On 2 Jul 2014, at 09:32 pm, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Wait, so what's the difference in the mac visionaries and mac access lists? 
> I'm sorry if I get confused with the two sometimes.
> Devin Prater
> d.pra...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Why can't we all learn that we cannot make the world spin the way we always 
>> want it to? If one's time is limited which makes it difficult to manage 
>> email lists, then one must make the choices to leave a list or two, not to 
>> make a list work contrary to its stated purpose.
>> 
>> Perhaps the list owner can limit the huge amount of posts that generate 
>> endless discussions about things like voices which are quite subjective in 
>> nature. Not likely. :) We just have to manage what we can.
>> 
>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>> Dilbert's Words of Wisdom: I don't have an attitude problem.
>> You have a perception problem.
>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>> E-mail-
>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On 7/2/2014 12:51 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, the list moderators have said in the past that we can 
>>> talk about I phone matters  on this list.  Please bear in mind, some of us 
>>> work and can't always be on multiple lists for one specific thing.  If the 
>>> moderators have a problem, please let us know about it.  If you are 
>>> moderating this list then I apologise but as far as I know, Kara moderates 
>>> this list.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>>> On 2 Jul 2014, at 19:43, Kayaker <sea...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Please do not post exclusively iOS related posts on the macvisionaries 
>>>> list. There is a sister list called viphone that is for iOS specific posts.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course there are issues that deal with Mac and iOS together and those 
>>>> are totally appropriate on this list or even viphone. However, posts that 
>>>> deal with iOS only and have nothing to do with the Mac belong on viphone.
>>>> 
>>>> There is a reason there are two lists, let's all take the time to post our 
>>>> questions on the proper list so that you can both get the best possible 
>>>> answers from the proper people and we don't overburden those who expect 
>>>> topic specific content from their list memberships.
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> --k
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