Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in > all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just > permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine > restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time > machine. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: > >> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days >> since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders >>> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all >>> my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff >>> and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone >>> numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the >>> sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message >>> in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff >>> saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally >>> screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label >>> on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a >>> label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call >>> it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I >>> totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent >>> mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on >>> the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, >>> I think I screwed myself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Hello! I am very very interested in knowing about this little device, because I work facilitating access to asistive technologies to people with special needs. We have a podcast for spanish speaking people and we are trying to introduce different apps, contents and devices which could be of help. If you are interested, you can easily contact me at: daniela.ru...@me.com And may be we could make a podcast about Rivo. I know that the device is in english, but I think that it is ton important to use it if their iOS device is in an other language. Thanks and I hope we can contact. Daniela Rubio T Macneticos, Apple y accesibilidad a tu alcance. Productos innovadores y cursos a tu medida. www.macneticos.com iPhone: +34662328507 El 14/02/2014, a las 08:52, Ein Lee escribió: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and > Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their > smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know > about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a > breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another > innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also > available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with > this keypad. > - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who > can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for > us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android > platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had > before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My > right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just > slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone > safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your > iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if > you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, > RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and > unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the > possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make > your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+u
Re: Accessable Keyboard Tutorial?
what do you mean how to keyboard? maybe you ean how to type? like typing master you mean? On 14 Feb 2014, at 06:12 am, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > Yes I know the keyboard help. But in the job I am going into I am going to > teach someone how to keyboard. I know there are a few free ones for Windows > or Linux, but is there any for Mac? > > Thanks! > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 > iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb > iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz > 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > NVDA installed > > Phonak Compilot > > > > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera > wrote: > >> option then press KVO + K, if you >> VO means Ctrl + >> On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:28 pm, Daniel Hawkins >> wrote: >> >>> hello everyone! >>> >>> As part of my goal to to train others how to use the Mac, one thing my >>> future job would do is also teach new users how to learn how to keyboard. >>> So my question is, do you guy know a simple free app for the Mac that can >>> teach you how to keyboard? I already tried to check out Appleton and I have >>> not found anything. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> Daniel Hawkins >>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>> >>> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 >>> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb >>> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player >>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz >>> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 >>> 500GB HDD >>> >>> Dual Boot: >>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>> NVDA installed >>> >>> Phonak Compilot >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hey Eric I hope that you are right, as I would love for all the messages I deleted to reappear. All of this happened because of all the issues I was having with gmail and the all mail folder having so much crap in it that I delete but having a sighted person help me permanently delete things on the web interface is what did it. Funny as even though he could see he still had a tough time finding where to select everything and get it deleted but it is definitely gone as I have checked two computers and two iPhones and all the years of saved messages are gone, and I have to believe that these were messages I sent myself that deleting the sent mail folder is what deleted them meaning labeling something does absolutely nothing except putting in to a labeled folder, but I guess the message is still viewed a sa sent message therefore I assume that is why it was deleted. It amazes me all the junk that is still in the all mail folder which should have been in my trash and been deleted when I deleted permanently all the trash but it is still appearing in the all mail folder, but the important stuff is all gone. This will probably be my final step with gmail as losing the info I did if I can't get it back from Time Machine will make me switch to me.com so either way the frustration and a lot of work still ahead of me and all because Mavericks dones't work with gmail yet in December Apple claimed they fixed everything leading me to upgrade to Mavericks to only have Apple finally admit that no a lot of issues weren't fixed. So my feeling is not a good one with apple right and even worst for google On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:16 AM, eric oyen wrote: > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it > always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right > now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't > stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it > remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web > interface? > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be >> in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine >> restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time >> machine. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >>> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 >>> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, v
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Thanks Daniela. I'm interested and let us contact you soon. We do have plans to support as many languages as possible and our research team have made quite some progresses in that. :) Best regards, Ein. On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: > Hello! > I am very very interested in knowing about this little device, because I > work facilitating access to asistive technologies to people with special > needs. We have a podcast for spanish speaking people and we are trying to > introduce different apps, contents and devices which could be of help. > If you are interested, you can easily contact me at: > daniela.ru...@me.com > And may be we could make a podcast about Rivo. I know that the device is > in english, but I think that it is ton important to use it if their iOS > device is in an other language. > Thanks and I hope we can contact. > > Daniela Rubio T > > Macneticos, Apple y accesibilidad a tu alcance. > Productos innovadores y cursos a tu medida. > www.macneticos.com > > iPhone: +34662328507 > > > > > El 14/02/2014, a las 08:52, Ein Lee escribió: > > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver > and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use > their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people > know about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like > a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is > another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is > also available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster > with this keypad. > - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those > who can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable > for us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and > Android platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever > had before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. > My right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or > just slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your > iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave > your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, > or if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day > long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever > and unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy > the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that > make your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Very glad and may be we could collaborate on that or other projects. Waiting for your news and have a nice weekend! Daniela Rubio T Macneticos, Apple y accesibilidad a tu alcance. Productos innovadores y cursos a tu medida. www.macneticos.com iPhone: +34662328507 El 14/02/2014, a las 08:52, Ein Lee escribió: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and > Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their > smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know > about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a > breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another > innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also > available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with > this keypad. > - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who > can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for > us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android > platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had > before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My > right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just > slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone > safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your > iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if > you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, > RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and > unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the > possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make > your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it > always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right > now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't > stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it > remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web > interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be >> in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine >> restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time >> machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >>> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 >>> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit h
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Actually, it was deleting any message from all-male removes it from everywhere, including sent mail. Therefore, the messages you deleted from your all mail folder that had copies in the sent mail folder were also deleted. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 19:24, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders > where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all > my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff > and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers > account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail > folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If > this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this > is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not > sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be > in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving > it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of > the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by > deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am > wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages > I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: > David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard > view to see this setting? > > Regards Chris > > On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the >> archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to >> be selected. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, >>> it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it >>> right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want >>> aren't stored locally. >>> >>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have >>> it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the >>> web interface? >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: > > they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be > moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 > days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. > > -eric > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently >> in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always >> emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the >> proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly >> that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and >> folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally >> screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this >> gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email >> that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent >> mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a >> folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the >> sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by >> deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am >> wrong, > but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I > labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Computer room services in the UK distributors this item. > On 14 Feb 2014, at 08:44 am, Ein Lee wrote: > > Thanks Daniela. I'm interested and let us contact you soon. We do have plans > to support as many languages as possible and our research team have made > quite some progresses in that. :) > > Best regards, Ein. > > >> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 5:33 PM, Daniela Rubio wrote: >> Hello! >> I am very very interested in knowing about this little device, because I >> work facilitating access to asistive technologies to people with special >> needs. We have a podcast for spanish speaking people and we are trying to >> introduce different apps, contents and devices which could be of help. >> If you are interested, you can easily contact me at: >> daniela.ru...@me.com >> And may be we could make a podcast about Rivo. I know that the device is in >> english, but I think that it is ton important to use it if their iOS device >> is in an other language. >> Thanks and I hope we can contact. >> >> Daniela Rubio T >> >> Macneticos, Apple y accesibilidad a tu alcance. >> Productos innovadores y cursos a tu medida. >> www.macneticos.com >> >> iPhone: +34662328507 >> >> >> >> >>> El 14/02/2014, a las 08:52, Ein Lee escribió: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’d like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >>> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >>> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >>> know about the availability of this product. >>> >>> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >>> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >>> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >>> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >>> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >>> >>> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like >>> a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >>> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >>> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >>> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is >>> another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is >>> also available. >>> >>> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >>> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >>> smartphone. >>> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >>> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >>> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >>> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >>> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >>> this keypad. >>> - RIVO’s smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >>> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >>> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >>> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >>> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >>> surroundings with my gesture actions. >>> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >>> who can see. >>> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >>> us! >>> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >>> - I am very happy with the keyboard’s performance on both of iOS and >>> Android platforms. >>> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >>> interface. >>> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >>> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever >>> had before to a desktop or iOS device. >>> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >>> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >>> lives. >>> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >>> My right arm is feeling better already. >>> >>> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >>> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >>> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >>> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >>> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, >>> or if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >>> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever >>> and unlike everyone else. >>> >>> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy >>> the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: > > unfortunately, > the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem > to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in > standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails > to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has > not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their > attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at > the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial > payoff). > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >> >> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard >> view to see this setting? >> >> Regards Chris >> >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the >>> archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to >>> be selected. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should > be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just > permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time > Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure > out time machine. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >> >> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 >> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently >>> in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always >>> emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the >>> proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly >>> that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and >>> folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally >>> screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this >>> gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email >>> that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent >>> mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a >>> folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the >>> sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself >>> by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I >>> am wrong, >> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I >> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that > time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >> >> unfortunately, >> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at >> the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >> payoff). >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>> standard view to see this setting? >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, > it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it > right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want > aren't stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not > have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to > use the web interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >> out time machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can >>> be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been >>> 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, >>> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I >>> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
I found a combo box and at my end it's set to delete gmail's copy. Does this sound familiar? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 11:15, David Chittenden wrote: It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wro ng, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
At the time I changed it, it was a checkbox which said something like, permanently archive deleted messages, or archive copy of deleted messages, or something similar. Like I said previously, it is Gmail's default setting. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Feb 2014, at 1:01, Chris H wrote: > > I found a combo box and at my end it's set to delete gmail's copy. Does this > sound familiar? > > Regards Chris > >> On 14/02/2014 11:15, David Chittenden wrote: >> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> unfortunately, >>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >>> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >>> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >>> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >>> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >>> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit >>> at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >>> payoff). >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris > On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: > You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the > archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this > to be selected. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >> >> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >> >> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >> use the web interface? >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail >>> just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >>> out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric > On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the > folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted > permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I > am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the > email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I > assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also > overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this > is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If > this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally > screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a > label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think > placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever > they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can > someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the > thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wro > ng, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to m
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hi, Are you actually on googles accessibility list? I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. Karen On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macv
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Hi, I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am with the on-screen keyboard. Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, which I have to edit this weekend. --Buddy On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and > Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their > smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know > about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a > breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another > innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also > available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with > this keypad. > - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who > can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for > us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android > platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had > before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My > right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just > slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone > safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your > iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if > you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, > RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and > unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the > possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make > your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this gr
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Just wondering, will this device be in the exhibit hall at CSUN? Best, Donna On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. > > I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might > look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is > pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, > in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I > expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its > default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. > I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am > with the on-screen keyboard. > > Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either > Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, > which I have to edit this weekend. > > --Buddy > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >> know about the availability of this product. >> >> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >> >> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a >> breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another >> innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also >> available. >> >> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >> smartphone. >> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >> this keypad. >> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >> surroundings with my gesture actions. >> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >> who can see. >> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >> us! >> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android >> platforms. >> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >> interface. >> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had >> before to a desktop or iOS device. >> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >> lives. >> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >> My right arm is feeling better already. >> >> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or >> if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever >> and unlike everyone else. >> >> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy >> the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that >> make your life easy. >> >> Thanks and best wishes, >> >> Mobience Inc. >> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page >> >> Control from palm to pocket: >> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Well, please explain how you changed yhour settings though if it has been a couple of years that may not be helpful. I used to be able to go to the website and get into settings with no problem. Now I am totally unable to do this and I've literally spent hours trying! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that > time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >> >> unfortunately, >> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at >> the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >> payoff). >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>> standard view to see this setting? >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, > it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it > right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want > aren't stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not > have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to > use the web interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >> out time machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can >>> be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been >>> 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, >>> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I >>> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" gro
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
What setting are you looking for. On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Chris H wrote: > I found a combo box and at my end it's set to delete gmail's copy. Does this > sound familiar? > > Regards Chris > > On 14/02/2014 11:15, David Chittenden wrote: >> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> unfortunately, >>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >>> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >>> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >>> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >>> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >>> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit >>> at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >>> payoff). >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris > On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: > You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the > archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this > to be selected. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >> >> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >> >> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >> use the web interface? >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail >>> just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >>> out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric > On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the > folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted > permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I > am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the > email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I > assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also > overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this > is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If > this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally > screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a > label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think > placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever > they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can > someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the > thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wro > ng, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
No idea if this will help but sharing anyway. you can go directly to the basic html page, at least you can when bookmarked using a lower graphics browser. try this link. mail.google.com/mail/?ui=html works for me, but I am not using a mac so. Kare On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Cheryl Homiak wrote: Well, please explain how you changed yhour settings though if it has been a couple of years that may not be helpful. I used to be able to go to the website and get into settings with no problem. Now I am totally unable to do this and I've literally spent hours trying! -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at h
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
I think so, but I was unable to find it in basic html mode. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Chris H wrote: > I found a combo box and at my end it's set to delete gmail's copy. Does this > sound familiar? > > Regards Chris > > On 14/02/2014 11:15, David Chittenden wrote: >> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> unfortunately, >>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >>> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >>> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >>> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >>> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >>> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit >>> at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >>> payoff). >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris > On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: > You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the > archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this > to be selected. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >> >> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >> >> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >> use the web interface? >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail >>> just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >>> out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric > On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the > folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted > permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I > am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the > email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I > assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also > overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this > is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If > this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally > screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a > label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think > placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever > they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can > someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the > thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wro > ng, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/gro
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Donna, Are you going to be at CSUN? I will be attending this year. Jamie T Blind Dragon Hobbies One stop shopping for all your gaming needs. http://www.blinddragonhobbies.com/ Twitter: @BDHobbies Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blinddragonhobbies > On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Just wondering, will this device be in the exhibit hall at CSUN? > Best, > Donna >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. >> >> I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might >> look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is >> pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, >> in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I >> expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its >> default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. >> I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am >> with the on-screen keyboard. >> >> Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either >> Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, >> which I have to edit this weekend. >> >> --Buddy >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >>> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >>> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >>> know about the availability of this product. >>> >>> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >>> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >>> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >>> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >>> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >>> >>> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like >>> a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >>> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >>> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >>> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is >>> another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is >>> also available. >>> >>> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >>> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >>> smartphone. >>> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >>> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >>> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >>> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >>> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >>> this keypad. >>> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >>> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >>> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >>> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >>> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >>> surroundings with my gesture actions. >>> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >>> who can see. >>> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >>> us! >>> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >>> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and >>> Android platforms. >>> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >>> interface. >>> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >>> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever >>> had before to a desktop or iOS device. >>> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >>> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >>> lives. >>> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >>> My right arm is feeling better already. >>> >>> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >>> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >>> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >>> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >>> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, >>> or if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >>> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever >>> and unlike everyone else. >>> >>> I hope
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate on a mac. Do you have the subscribe address? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi, > Are you actually on googles accessibility list? > I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. > Karen > > On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: > >> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too >> many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even >> the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in >> standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes >> because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I >> gleaned from reading the console system messages. >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >>> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >>> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric > On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: > > David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the > standard view to see this setting? > > Regards Chris > >> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change >> the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for >> this to be selected. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >>> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >>> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >>> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >>> >>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >>> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >>> use the web interface? >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: > > they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can > be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't > been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be > there. > > -eric > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted >> permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I >> am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the >> email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I >> assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also >> overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this >> is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If >> this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally >> screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a >> label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think >> placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever >> they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can >> someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the >> thousands of messages in the sent mail f
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Yes the pages are hard to navigate on the mac. On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, eric oyen wrote: > no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate on > a mac. > > Do you have the subscribe address? > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> Hi, >> Are you actually on googles accessibility list? >> I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. >> Karen >> >> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: >> >>> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too >>> many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). >>> Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in >>> standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover >>> crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis >>> last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >>> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: > > unfortunately, > the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't > seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available > in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent > emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the > problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys > just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not > one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress > for any beneficial payoff). > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >> >> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >> standard view to see this setting? >> >> Regards Chris >> >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change >>> the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for >>> this to be selected. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They > should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all > mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that > a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but > can't figure out time machine. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >> >> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they >> can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it >> hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should >> still be there. >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted >>> permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I >>> am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the >>> email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I >>> assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also >>> overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If >>> this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff >>> saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks >>> totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a >>> placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you >>> would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in >
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Hi Jamie, I will be, but we're actually staying up in LA and driving down to San Diego for the day to go to the exhibit hall. So my time there will be pretty brief. Still, though, we should try and connect for coffee or something. Cheers, Donna On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Jamie Tachiyama wrote: > Donna, > Are you going to be at CSUN? I will be attending this year. > > > Jamie T > Blind Dragon Hobbies > One stop shopping for all your gaming needs. > http://www.blinddragonhobbies.com/ > Twitter: @BDHobbies > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blinddragonhobbies > > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >> Just wondering, will this device be in the exhibit hall at CSUN? >> Best, >> Donna >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. >>> >>> I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual >>> might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO >>> really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of >>> Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility >>> center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, >>> given that its default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though >>> mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with >>> the RiVO than I am with the on-screen keyboard. >>> >>> Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either >>> Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, >>> which I have to edit this weekend. >>> >>> --Buddy >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: Hi, I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know about the availability of this product. RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also available. Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use smartphone. - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. - I have RiVO with me all the time. - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with this keypad. - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the surroundings with my gesture actions. - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who can see. - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for us! - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android platforms. - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad interface. - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had before to a desktop or iOS device. - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our lives. - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My right arm is feeling better already. RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable keyboard at home while you
how to add a contact quickly
Is there a way in an email to add a contact quickly? I have a contact I need added to the contacts app but not sure how to do it in an email. Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: how to add a contact quickly
Hi, Interact with the Header area of the message, navigate to the Sender's name and press VO-shift-m to bring up the Contextual menu. There should be the option to Add Sender to Contacts in there. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Scott Berry wrote: > Is there a way in an email to add a contact quickly? I have a contact I need > added to the contacts app but not sure how to do it in an email. > > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Accessable Keyboard Tutorial?
yes exactly, thanks. I myself know the keyboard and the commands fine. But if a new student want to learn how to use the computer but have no idea how to propertly use the keyboard, that's where a keyboard typing tutor comes in. So I was wondering if there is a free accessable Mac version Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:37 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: > what do you mean how to keyboard? maybe you ean how to type? like typing > master you mean? > On 14 Feb 2014, at 06:12 am, Daniel Hawkins > wrote: > >> Yes I know the keyboard help. But in the job I am going into I am going to >> teach someone how to keyboard. I know there are a few free ones for Windows >> or Linux, but is there any for Mac? >> >> Thanks! >> Daniel Hawkins >> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >> >> iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 >> iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb >> iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player >> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >> 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz >> 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 >> 500GB HDD >> >> Dual Boot: >> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >> NVDA installed >> >> Phonak Compilot >> >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >> wrote: >> >>> option then press KVO + K, if you >>> VO means Ctrl + >>> On 11 Feb 2014, at 11:28 pm, Daniel Hawkins >>> wrote: >>> hello everyone! As part of my goal to to train others how to use the Mac, one thing my future job would do is also teach new users how to learn how to keyboard. So my question is, do you guy know a simple free app for the Mac that can teach you how to keyboard? I already tried to check out Appleton and I have not found anything. Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hi, To get to the Gmail Settings page, do the following: * Go to your Gmail Home page. * Press shift-tab enough times that it kind of goes around backwards through your Toolbar and around to the bottom of your page. * When VO announces the Settings button, press the return key. * Press the down arrow and you'll hear "Comfort" and some other options and one will be Settings. * Press the return key on the Settings option. This is all done in Safari in the regular Google view, not Basic HTML. Once you're onto the new page, it is a little more navigable with VO. Certainly not a breeze, but Google web-pages seldom are. Usually you can Interact with Tables and grouped areas if necessary, otherwise, if you seem to be getting frustrated with finding things that way, either use the Item Chooser or tab around to get focus to specific elements before using VO navigation. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:04 AM, isaac wrote: > Yes the pages are hard to navigate on the mac. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, eric oyen wrote: > >> no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate >> on a mac. >> >> Do you have the subscribe address? >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Are you actually on googles accessibility list? >>> I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. >>> Karen >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: >>> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that > time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >> >> unfortunately, >> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't >> seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available >> in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent >> emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the >> problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys >> just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not >> one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and >> stress for any beneficial payoff). >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>> standard view to see this setting? >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from > GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 > entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my > emails that I want aren't stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not > have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having > to use the web interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They >> should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from >> all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying >> that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should >> but can't figure out time machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they >>> can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it >>> hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should >
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Brian! I seem to remember that you said you don't have basic and standard gmail options. When I use my gmail bookmark in safari I still see basic and standard html, and can change between them. Just thought you might want to know as there might be a way for you to still do this. Jim On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders > where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all > my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff > and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers > account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail > folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If > this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this > is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not > sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be > in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving > it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of > the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by > deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am > wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages > I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: > Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. > Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > A smile is the same in any language. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this >> the first time. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >>> I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. >>> >>> I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for >>> the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never >>> entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a >>> break from it. LOL >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> Oxymoron: Original copy >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C wrote: > Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to > grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view > browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. > Thanks for any assistance here. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > A backward poet writes inverse. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hi, One other thing to note regarding Gmail and copies of messages. Remember that when using Gmail, there are not actually multiple copies of the message, there is only one copy of the message with various labels or flags attached. Archived messages just have an Archived flag, Sent messages just have a Sent flag etc. Everything usually remains in the All Mail folder until it is permanently deleted from the Deleted Messages labeled items. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:04 AM, isaac wrote: > Yes the pages are hard to navigate on the mac. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, eric oyen wrote: > >> no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate >> on a mac. >> >> Do you have the subscribe address? >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Are you actually on googles accessibility list? >>> I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. >>> Karen >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: >>> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that > time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >> >> unfortunately, >> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't >> seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available >> in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent >> emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the >> problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys >> just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not >> one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and >> stress for any beneficial payoff). >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>> standard view to see this setting? >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from > GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 > entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my > emails that I want aren't stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not > have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having > to use the web interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They >> should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from >> all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying >> that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should >> but can't figure out time machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they >>> can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it >>> hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should >>> still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then a
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
I seem to remember there being an "empty trash" option in gmail when you are on the web site which will clear the trash folder. I also thought that when I did shift-command-delete from apple mail that it emptied the trash--while using iMap. Maybe wrong about that. Jim On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:16 AM, eric oyen wrote: > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it > always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right > now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't > stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it > remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web > interface? > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be >> in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine >> restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time >> machine. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >>> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 >>> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit ht
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
I too am very interested in this product. I usually use a iPad keyboard but I want a more portable version. Right now I am at my local Independent Living Resource Center, and they too are interested. Could you please send any more info to computersassocia...@gmail.com Thanks! Daniel Hawkins - Posted from my Macbook Pro iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player 2012 15in. Macbook Pro 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 500GB HDD Dual Boot: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit NVDA installed Phonak Compilot On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and > Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their > smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know > about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a > breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another > innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also > available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with > this keypad. > - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who > can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for > us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android > platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had > before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My > right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just > slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone > safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your > iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if > you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, > RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and > unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the > possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make > your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macv
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hi Eric! I'm glad to hear you are having the same trouble with gmail. Actually I should say I'm sorry that you are having the same trouble. It seems like they will never fix this discrepancy between basic and standard emails. I've seriously thought about switching emails but have been with gmail so long I don't even know where to start looking for new email service. Jim On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:49 AM, eric oyen wrote: > unfortunately, > the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem > to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in > standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails > to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has > not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their > attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at > the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial > payoff). > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: > >> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard >> view to see this setting? >> >> Regards Chris >> >> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the >>> archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to >>> be selected. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should > be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just > permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time > Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure > out time machine. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >> >> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be >> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 >> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently >>> in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always >>> emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the >>> proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly >>> that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and >>> folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally >>> screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this >>> gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email >>> that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent >>> mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a >>> folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the >>> sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself >>> by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I >>> am wrong, >> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I >> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroup
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Hi, It's available for sale direct from Mobience: http://www.mobience.com I don't know what other reelers there are. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Daniel Hawkins wrote: > I too am very interested in this product. I usually use a iPad keyboard but I > want a more portable version. Right now I am at my local Independent Living > Resource Center, and they too are interested. Could you please send any more > info to computersassocia...@gmail.com > > Thanks! > Daniel Hawkins > - Posted from my Macbook Pro > > iPhone 4S, 16GB, Jailbroken IOS 7.0.4 > iPad 2nd Gen, 32gb > iPhone 3gs 8gb, as media player > 2012 15in. Macbook Pro > 2.3 Quad-core i7, Turbo to 3.3Ghz > 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 > 500GB HDD > > Dual Boot: > Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit > NVDA installed > > Phonak Compilot > > > > > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >> know about the availability of this product. >> >> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >> >> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a >> breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another >> innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also >> available. >> >> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >> smartphone. >> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >> this keypad. >> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >> surroundings with my gesture actions. >> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >> who can see. >> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >> us! >> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android >> platforms. >> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >> interface. >> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had >> before to a desktop or iOS device. >> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >> lives. >> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >> My right arm is feeling better already. >> >> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or >> if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever >> and unlike everyone else. >> >> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy >> the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that >> make your life easy. >> >> Thanks and best wishes, >> >> Mobience Inc. >> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page >> >> Control from palm to pocket: >> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket >> A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: >> http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaug
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
David I didn't delete anything from the all mail folder just from the sent folder and trash, but yet anything I sent to myself like ideas I had, account number etc are all gone. And that is all stuff I had moved to folders/labeled On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:05 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > Actually, it was deleting any message from all-male removes it from > everywhere, including sent mail. Therefore, the messages you deleted from > your all mail folder that had copies in the sent mail folder were also > deleted. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 19:24, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders >> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all >> my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff >> and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers >> account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail >> folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If >> this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this >> is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not >> sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only >> be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or >> archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take >> it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed >> myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope >> I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the >> messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed >> myself. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Good luck finding the settings with VO as my sighted friend couldn't even find them. On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that > time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >> >> unfortunately, >> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at >> the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >> payoff). >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>> >>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>> standard view to see this setting? >>> >>> Regards Chris >>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: > > hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, > it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it > right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want > aren't stored locally. > > How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not > have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to > use the web interface? > > -eric > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just >> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >> out time machine. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can >>> be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been >>> 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, >>> but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I >>> labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email t
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hey Eric, Yes, Google has yet again changed their web layout making it even more impossible to use with a screen reader like VO. I can't even find a way to toggle between standard and basic html views anymore. It used to be the first thing or second thing that came up on the page but it is now. And people tell me Google is taking accessibility more seriously. Well this new layout of gmail doesn't point to that. And better luck trying to actually use the google groups now with VO. On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:21 AM, eric oyen wrote: > in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too > many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even > the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in > standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes > because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I > gleaned from reading the console system messages. > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > >> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> unfortunately, >>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >>> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >>> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >>> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >>> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >>> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit >>> at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >>> payoff). >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris > On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: > You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the > archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this > to be selected. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >> >> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >> >> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >> use the web interface? >> >> -eric >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail >>> just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >>> out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric > On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the > folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted > permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I > am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the > email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I > assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also > overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this > is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If > this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally > screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a > label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think > placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever > they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can > someone let me know if I totally scr
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Jim are you running Mavericks and the latest safari? Assuming you are how are you finding the options to switch between standard and basic? I have used the rotor and links trying several first letters and also have tried just moving around the page to no end but can't seem to find them anymore. They used to be the first or second option on the page. Thanks, On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > Brian! > I seem to remember that you said you don't have basic and standard gmail > options. When I use my gmail bookmark in safari I still see basic and > standard html, and can change between them. > Just thought you might want to know as there might be a way for you to still > do this. > Jim > > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders >> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all >> my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff >> and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers >> account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail >> folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If >> this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this >> is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not >> sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only >> be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or >> archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take >> it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed >> myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope >> I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the >> messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed >> myself. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Please help anyone ever use time machine to recover messages in mac mail
Hey all, I have never tried to recover from Time Machine, and am trying to recover a ton of messages that got deleted. I have read by doing a google search that this is possible, but can't seem to figure out how to do so using VoiceOver. I bring my mail up then go to the extra menu and launch time machine, which according to what I read should take me in to my time machine and mail. Unfortunately every time I have tried this I actually land on my desktop in Time Machine, not my mail. Also I can't seem to find in the Time Machine window where the options are as far as dates to roll back to. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Tagging people and pages on Facebook
Does anyone know of a step by step guide of how to tag someone using Facebook and voiceover on the mac? I was able to do so back in December but now I can't seem to figure it out again. I don't know if Facebook has changed or if I'm just not remembering what I did correctly. Any tips or guidance is appreciated. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't remember the command. Gigi On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was > the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Here you go: 1-877-204-3930 -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was > the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
I'm curious: how is this for those with motor difficulties? When I first read about this, I thought it would be perfect for people who have a hard time with all the gestures on the touch screen, but after reading the manual, it sounds like a lot of commands are multi-key anyway. The price is, I feel, quite steep, but if it is a big help to those with motor problems, I might have to look into it for some of my clients. -- Have a great day, Alex mehg...@gmail.com > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > I’d like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and > Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their > smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know > about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS > VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being > about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable > with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, > and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a > breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control > music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a > greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without > RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another > innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also > available. > > Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: > - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use > smartphone. > - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. > - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. > - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. > - I have RiVO with me all the time. > - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with > this keypad. > - RIVO’s smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. > - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. > - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. > - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. > - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the > surroundings with my gesture actions. > - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those who > can see. > - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for > us! > - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. > - I am very happy with the keyboard’s performance on both of iOS and Android > platforms. > - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad > interface. > - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and > has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had > before to a desktop or iOS device. > - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the > iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our > lives. > - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. My > right arm is feeling better already. > > RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just > slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable > keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your iPhone > safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave your > iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or if > you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day long, > RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and > unlike everyone else. > > I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy the > possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that make > your life easy. > > Thanks and best wishes, > > Mobience Inc. > RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page > > Control from palm to pocket: > http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket > A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: > http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this messa
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Many commands are hold+press, but you can use one finger on two hands or two fingers on one hand. The concern I have is that the keys are fairly flat. The 5 is indented, but someone with neuropathy might have trouble. With an average sense of touch, this isn't a problem and keys are differentiated, but someone with neuropathy might have more trouble without the addition of extra dots. Fortunately, all keys are big enough that adding stick on dots or velcro or what not shouldn't be a problem. I don't know how all the commands could have been fit on something with just 20 keys if not for some two key commands though. Most of the two key things are things you shouldn't need to do much from the RiVO. Well, mostly. I think that commands that may be used more often have keys that are closer together though, so that they can be more easily pressed. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > I'm curious: how is this for those with motor difficulties? When I first read > about this, I thought it would be perfect for people who have a hard time > with all the gestures on the touch screen, but after reading the manual, it > sounds like a lot of commands are multi-key anyway. The price is, I feel, > quite steep, but if it is a big help to those with motor problems, I might > have to look into it for some of my clients. > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >> know about the availability of this product. >> >> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >> >> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a >> breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another >> innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also >> available. >> >> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >> smartphone. >> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >> this keypad. >> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >> surroundings with my gesture actions. >> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >> who can see. >> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >> us! >> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android >> platforms. >> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >> interface. >> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had >> before to a desktop or iOS device. >> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >> lives. >> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >> My right arm is feeling better already. >> >> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or >> if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >> long, RiVO can be a
Re: Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I > can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't > remember the command. > > Gigi > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was >> the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Please help anyone ever use time machine to recover messages in mac mail
Hello Brian, >From within Mail, go to the Dock and launch Time Machine from there. You'll >hear a wooshing sound. When it stops, open the Window chooser and select Time >Machine controls. In that window, to the left of Cancel, are the buttons Next >and previous. TTo the right of the Cancel button you'll find the date being >offered. Cheers, Anne On 14 Feb 2014, at 18:03, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, > > I have never tried to recover from Time Machine, and am trying to recover a > ton of messages that got deleted. I have read by doing a google search that > this is possible, but can't seem to figure out how to do so using VoiceOver. > I bring my mail up then go to the extra menu and launch time machine, which > according to what I read should take me in to my time machine and mail. > Unfortunately every time I have tried this I actually land on my desktop in > Time Machine, not my mail. Also I can't seem to find in the Time Machine > window where the options are as far as dates to roll back to. Any help or > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screenshots, was does Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Command-shift-3 to take a screenshot. I can't find the keystroke, but there's also one in Voiceover help menu for saving the contents of the VO cursor to the desktop. HtH, teresa On the other hand, there are different fingers. On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I > can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't > remember the command. > > Gigi > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was >> the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Choosing Date and Time in time Machine, Was Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
I've done this before. You can use VO-f2 twice quickly to bring up the windows list in time machine, then go to the date/time picker. HtH, Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted > assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I >> can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't >> remember the command. >> >> Gigi >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was >>> the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Please help anyone ever use time machine to recover messages in mac mail
Hey Ann, Thanks, going to try this now, and you are one step ahead of Apple Accessibility as I just hung up with them and they told me there i son way to access the date chooser using VoiceOver. The other problem is mail doesn't open properly while using Time Machine with VoiceOver on, which is why I couldn't get in to it when launching Time Machine. The good news, and I'm hoping they are right about this is they told me I will be able to get to my old messages that were deleted. Still won't believe it until I actually do it. Thanks for this. On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Brian, > > From within Mail, go to the Dock and launch Time Machine from there. You'll > hear a wooshing sound. When it stops, open the Window chooser and select Time > Machine controls. In that window, to the left of Cancel, are the buttons Next > and previous. TTo the right of the Cancel button you'll find the date being > offered. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 14 Feb 2014, at 18:03, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I have never tried to recover from Time Machine, and am trying to recover a >> ton of messages that got deleted. I have read by doing a google search that >> this is possible, but can't seem to figure out how to do so using VoiceOver. >> I bring my mail up then go to the extra menu and launch time machine, which >> according to what I read should take me in to my time machine and mail. >> Unfortunately every time I have tried this I actually land on my desktop in >> Time Machine, not my mail. Also I can't seem to find in the Time Machine >> window where the options are as far as dates to roll back to. Any help or >> suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tagging people and pages on Facebook
Type in the at symbol (shift-2) immediately followed by the name and press return. It should give you a name with a link, which will be the tag. You can edit this to only show the first name, but VO is a little weird with it, so you might have to interact with the tag text first. Trying to pick a name from the suggestions is not very reliable. HtH, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: > Does anyone know of a step by step guide of how to tag someone using Facebook > and voiceover on the mac? I was able to do so back in December but now I > can't seem to figure it out again. I don't know if Facebook has changed or if > I'm just not remembering what I did correctly. Any tips or guidance is > appreciated. > > -Greg > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tagging people and pages on Facebook
Hi Teresa, Do yu know if this works in Menutab, or just on the Facebook page? -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Type in the at symbol (shift-2) immediately followed by the name and press > return. It should give you a name with a link, which will be the tag. You can > edit this to only show the first name, but VO is a little weird with it, so > you might have to interact with the tag text first. Trying to pick a name > from the suggestions is not very reliable. > > HtH, > Teresa > Slow down; you'll get there faster. > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: > >> Does anyone know of a step by step guide of how to tag someone using >> Facebook and voiceover on the mac? I was able to do so back in December but >> now I can't seem to figure it out again. I don't know if Facebook has >> changed or if I'm just not remembering what I did correctly. Any tips or >> guidance is appreciated. >> >> -Greg >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Choosing Date and Time in time Machine, Was Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Thanks going to try both of these now. Since it seems Apple Accessibility might have been wrong about accessing the date chooser, hopefully they were also wrong about getting to mail. I tried opening Time Machine over mail last night, but Time Machine always opened in my desktop finder window not in mail like it supposedly does with VoiceOver off. On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I've done this before. You can use VO-f2 twice quickly to bring up the > windows list in time machine, then go to the date/time picker. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted >> assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I >>> can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't >>> remember the command. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Choosing Date and Time in time Machine, Was Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
You'll need to open Time Machine from the extras menu within the Mail app to work with your mail. hth, Teresa "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Thanks going to try both of these now. Since it seems Apple Accessibility > might have been wrong about accessing the date chooser, hopefully they were > also wrong about getting to mail. I tried opening Time Machine over mail last > night, but Time Machine always opened in my desktop finder window not in mail > like it supposedly does with VoiceOver off. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> I've done this before. You can use VO-f2 twice quickly to bring up the >> windows list in time machine, then go to the date/time picker. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted >>> assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't remember the command. Gigi On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them > was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tagging people and pages on Facebook
It should work in MenuTab. I haven't tried it, but MenuTab just presents the mobile and desktop pages in any case. HtH, Teresa "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi Teresa, > > Do yu know if this works in Menutab, or just on the Facebook page? > -- > Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA > Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY > > > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Type in the at symbol (shift-2) immediately followed by the name and press >> return. It should give you a name with a link, which will be the tag. You >> can edit this to only show the first name, but VO is a little weird with it, >> so you might have to interact with the tag text first. Trying to pick a name >> from the suggestions is not very reliable. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: >> >>> Does anyone know of a step by step guide of how to tag someone using >>> Facebook and voiceover on the mac? I was able to do so back in December but >>> now I can't seem to figure it out again. I don't know if Facebook has >>> changed or if I'm just not remembering what I did correctly. Any tips or >>> guidance is appreciated. >>> >>> -Greg >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
let me get it for you and others. Kare On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate on a mac. Do you have the subscribe address? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi, Are you actually on googles accessibility list? I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. Karen On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the standard view to see this setting? Regards Chris On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be selected. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't stored locally. How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web interface? -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen wrote: they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there. -eric On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You re
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. >From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on >that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C wrote: > Hi John, > I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is > the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do > this but not when using Voiceover. > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. > --Bob Dylan > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without >> knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in >> the backside to do. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >>> Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. >>> Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> A smile is the same in any language. >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: > I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. > > I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for > the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never > entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a > break from it. LOL > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > Oxymoron: Original copy > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: >> The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window >> in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for >> you and saves you steps. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >>> Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem >>> to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and >>> view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many >>> years. Thanks for any assistance here. >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> A backward poet writes inverse. >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
No, they have always been almost the last options on the page. If I switch my iPhone Safari's view to desktop, I can still find the links with exploration. I haven't tried it lately on my Mac. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Feb 2014, at 5:58, Brian Fischler wrote: > > Jim are you running Mavericks and the latest safari? Assuming you are how are > you finding the options to switch between standard and basic? I have used the > rotor and links trying several first letters and also have tried just moving > around the page to no end but can't seem to find them anymore. They used to > be the first or second option on the page. Thanks, >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >> >> Brian! >> I seem to remember that you said you don't have basic and standard gmail >> options. When I use my gmail bookmark in safari I still see basic and >> standard html, and can change between them. >> Just thought you might want to know as there might be a way for you to still >> do this. >> Jim >> >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders >>> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all >>> my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff >>> and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone >>> numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the >>> sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message >>> in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff >>> saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally >>> screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label >>> on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a >>> label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call >>> it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I >>> totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent >>> mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on >>> the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, >>> I think I screwed myself. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
More and more webpages are using these popup menus to make items appear at the bottom of the page. On many websites, I have gotten into the habit of pressing a menu choice, then using vO-shift-end to go to the bottom of the visible area and VO-left from there to find menu choices. It's not my favorite way to get around on the web, but it seems to be a trend. Teresa "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:06 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > No, they have always been almost the last options on the page. If I switch my > iPhone Safari's view to desktop, I can still find the links with exploration. > I haven't tried it lately on my Mac. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 15 Feb 2014, at 5:58, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >> Jim are you running Mavericks and the latest safari? Assuming you are how >> are you finding the options to switch between standard and basic? I have >> used the rotor and links trying several first letters and also have tried >> just moving around the page to no end but can't seem to find them anymore. >> They used to be the first or second option on the page. Thanks, >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: >>> >>> Brian! >>> I seem to remember that you said you don't have basic and standard gmail >>> options. When I use my gmail bookmark in safari I still see basic and >>> standard html, and can change between them. >>> Just thought you might want to know as there might be a way for you to >>> still do this. >>> Jim >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, I think I screwed myself. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Choosing Date and Time in time Machine, Was Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Hey guys, Thanks I have been able to successfully run Time Machine in mail and select a date. One thing I have noticed is none of my gmail folders have any messages in them. I have found an archived folder with over 100,000 messages, and think my best bet is to restore this folder and go through it hoping I can access all my old messages I need. I thought I properly did this but it didn't successfully install in my mail. I went back to the other window and clicked restore but the whole folder didn't restore only a few weird folders appeared in my mac mail. Any ideas? Thanks, On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > I've done this before. You can use VO-f2 twice quickly to bring up the > windows list in time machine, then go to the date/time picker. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > >> Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted >> assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I >>> can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't >>> remember the command. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Tagging people and pages on Facebook
Thanks for the tip Teresa, this worked fine. For some reason I thought I did it without the @ sign last time, but obviously not. On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > It should work in MenuTab. I haven't tried it, but MenuTab just presents the > mobile and desktop pages in any case. > > HtH, > Teresa > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Hi Teresa, >> >> Do yu know if this works in Menutab, or just on the Facebook page? >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >> >>> Type in the at symbol (shift-2) immediately followed by the name and press >>> return. It should give you a name with a link, which will be the tag. You >>> can edit this to only show the first name, but VO is a little weird with >>> it, so you might have to interact with the tag text first. Trying to pick a >>> name from the suggestions is not very reliable. >>> >>> HtH, >>> Teresa >>> Slow down; you'll get there faster. >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:25 AM, Greg Aikens wrote: >>> Does anyone know of a step by step guide of how to tag someone using Facebook and voiceover on the mac? I was able to do so back in December but now I can't seem to figure it out again. I don't know if Facebook has changed or if I'm just not remembering what I did correctly. Any tips or guidance is appreciated. -Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Hey Brian! I'm using mavericks and safari. I just search for the word basic. I have the basic page bookmarked so that's how I usually get there but this morning I went to standard page and found the basic link. Jim On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Jim are you running Mavericks and the latest safari? Assuming you are how are > you finding the options to switch between standard and basic? I have used the > rotor and links trying several first letters and also have tried just moving > around the page to no end but can't seem to find them anymore. They used to > be the first or second option on the page. Thanks, > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: > >> Brian! >> I seem to remember that you said you don't have basic and standard gmail >> options. When I use my gmail bookmark in safari I still see basic and >> standard html, and can change between them. >> Just thought you might want to know as there might be a way for you to still >> do this. >> Jim >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:24 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders >>> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail all >>> my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself stuff >>> and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone >>> numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the >>> sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message >>> in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff >>> saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally >>> screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a label >>> on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think placing a >>> label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they want to call >>> it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let me know if I >>> totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent >>> mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the gmail app on >>> the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone from there to, >>> I think I screwed myself. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Please help anyone ever use time machine to recover messages in mac mail
Hey Brian! I've restored from Time machine and once the volume is mounted I can see all my folders. You can do a complete restore or choose the folders you want. Jim On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, > > I have never tried to recover from Time Machine, and am trying to recover a > ton of messages that got deleted. I have read by doing a google search that > this is possible, but can't seem to figure out how to do so using VoiceOver. > I bring my mail up then go to the extra menu and launch time machine, which > according to what I read should take me in to my time machine and mail. > Unfortunately every time I have tried this I actually land on my desktop in > Time Machine, not my mail. Also I can't seem to find in the Time Machine > window where the options are as far as dates to roll back to. Any help or > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Finding a way to delete all Voice Memos at once in order for it to synk to other devices
HiTeresa, yep have this check box checked and for good measure, I un-checked it and re-checked it again to the same affect. The Voice memos don't get deleted from one device and carry that deleted form to the other. Therefore, I have to lituarly manually delete both sides and I mean everything here. From the phone to the files in iTunes but even then once they've gone from the iTunes library they are still there which then requires me to go to my actual iTunes media folder and delete twice again from this location too. Would be nice if this could worked like iCloud. lol On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:37, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Have you tried enabling syncing on your iPhone? Go to your iPod in the > sources list, go to music in the radio button group. Then Interact with the > scroll area and find the checkbox that says: "sync voice memos". I'm unclear > on how iTunes Match affects this option, since I haven't used Voice memos > much, but it's worth a try. > > htH, > Teresa > On Feb 11, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Daniel McGee > wrote: > >> Hi all, sorry for the long subject line but here's the situation. >> >> I am learning to read braille music and with my teacher we have devised a >> method where she will teach me something from the book that we are using >> which contains exercises. Then between our lessons, this was my idea. I >> started using the Voice Memos app on the iphone to record these exercises in >> the book convert them to MP3 using iTunes on my Mac and send them over to >> her by email. Here's my problem though, and I hope I'm not alone. It seems >> once I have recorded a few exercises to her I can't seem to find a way where >> I can get rid of all the Voice memo files in one swoop so to speak. That is, >> I am having to manually deleting one by one and this applies to both my >> iphone and Mac. Tedious as you can imagine >> I just assumed that once I have deleted the files in the Voice Memos >> playlist which is the last item in my source list and sync it to the iphone >> they would just disappear from there automatically. By the way, once I have >> converted them to MP3, I assumed that one would see these converted format >> along with the default M4A in my iTunes media folder then the sub-foulder >> Voice Memos. You would think? However, the Mp3 versions go into iTunes >> Media, Music and it creates a folder called Dan's iPhone which is my >> iPhone's name, finally into Voice Memos and the Mp3 versions are located >> here. I know this isn't particularly related to my main question but I just >> wanted to know is this normal once you converted them to MP3? >> >> I Should point out that my teacher uses Windows and we did try using the M4A >> extension but for whatever reason she wasn't able to open it. Anyway, MP3 is >> what I would consider the norm for universal cross-listening as it were. >> >> Very sorry for the long message but I just wanted to make sure that the >> situation was understood and adding a little background to why I am applying >> it in the first place. >> OSX Mavericks 10.9.1 and IOS 7.0.4 is what I'm using. >> >> I look forward to any responses. >> >> Thanking you >> >> Daniel >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screenshots, was does Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
thanks Teresa. I almost had it right. If you mean saving the last phrase to the pasteboard, I use it all the time. Use Vo shift c to save the last phrase. Then paste where you want it with command v. I love that command, especially when I can't figure out how to capture something I need. If I can get Vo to say it, then I can paste it. Gigi On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Command-shift-3 to take a screenshot. I can't find the keystroke, but there's > also one in Voiceover help menu for saving the contents of the VO cursor to > the desktop. > > HtH, > teresa > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I >> can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't >> remember the command. >> >> Gigi >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was >>> the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Please help anyone ever use time machine to recover messages in mac mail
Anne, this is great. Although i have isight, i for about six mounts now thought the whoosing sound was a bug in Time Machine and several Finder windows opens, thought this was a little big bug too :) To open the window chooser and select Time Machine controls and then shift - vo + down arrow on the slider that says today and then vo + left and right to browse through the date and time works well. Earliger i had to first open Time Machine and then quit it after this whoosing sound and then open it again in ordinary desktop Finder. This works too, but now i understand what the heck all the finder windows means. It is one Finder window for each date and time. When you decrease i.e. go back in time with vo + right arrow the amount of Finder windows decrease and reverse- Under Macintosh HD, library, Mail you will find different mail boxes at least. Don't know whats inside theese folders is really emails. Take care 14. feb. 2014 kl. 19:16 skrev Anne Robertson : Hello Brian, >From within Mail, go to the Dock and launch Time Machine from there. You'll >hear a wooshing sound. When it stops, open the Window chooser and select Time >Machine controls. In that window, to the left of Cancel, are the buttons Next >and previous. TTo the right of the Cancel button you'll find the date being >offered. Cheers, Anne On 14 Feb 2014, at 18:03, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey all, > > I have never tried to recover from Time Machine, and am trying to recover a > ton of messages that got deleted. I have read by doing a google search that > this is possible, but can't seem to figure out how to do so using VoiceOver. > I bring my mail up then go to the extra menu and launch time machine, which > according to what I read should take me in to my time machine and mail. > Unfortunately every time I have tried this I actually land on my desktop in > Time Machine, not my mail. Also I can't seem to find in the Time Machine > window where the options are as far as dates to roll back to. Any help or > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
joining the accessible list at google.
Hi Folks, simply sharing the details direct from the source. Karen -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:17:21 -0700 To: accessi...@googlegroups.com They should be able to visit the group on the web ( http://groups.google.com/group/accessible), and look for the "Join group to post button". This opens a dialog where they can set their display name in the group, how often to get emails, etc., though they're not joined until they press the "Join this group" at the bottom of that dialog. Despite the button name, they don't actually need to post after this. They can also just read the messages on the web (same URL), or just press the "New Topic" button, and this will pop up the same dialog as the "Join group to post" button, if needed. If you forget how to find a group on the web, the URL is actually at the bottom of each email from this list, though Gmail collapses it by default to avoid clutter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "accessible" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to accessible+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to accessi...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/accessible. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down & Home/End Keys
Hello All, I am seeking recommendations for a BT keyboard for my Mac Air that has a page up/down and home/end keys. I am concerned with the amount of use of the VO keys, command key, and FN key combinations with the arrow keys that in the future they will wear out. It would be nice to have full navigation with Page Up/Down and navigation with the Home/End keys, as one has on a full keyboard on the PC side. I do a tremendous amount of word processing and I need to edit my work before sending in the final copy to my job site. Recently, the Logitech 760 information has been posted to this list, but I could not ascertain if there were the keys listed above on this keyboard. Any assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Eileen Î -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Screenshots, was does Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
No, actually, I was referring to a command for taking a screenshot of what's in the vO cursor and saving on the desktop as an image file. It's in the VO help menu. Also, I just found option-X, which works when keyboard commander is on. It puts a screenshot of what's in the VO cursor into an email. HtH, Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > thanks Teresa. I almost had it right. If you mean saving the last phrase to > the pasteboard, I use it all the time. Use Vo shift c to save the last > phrase. Then paste where you want it with command v. I love that command, > especially when I can't figure out how to capture something I need. If I can > get Vo to say it, then I can paste it. > Gigi > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> Command-shift-3 to take a screenshot. I can't find the keystroke, but >> there's also one in Voiceover help menu for saving the contents of the VO >> cursor to the desktop. >> >> HtH, >> teresa >> >> On the other hand, there are different fingers. >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >> >>> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I >>> can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't >>> remember the command. >>> >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>> Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Choosing Date and Time in time Machine, Was Anyone Have The Apple VoiceOver help phone number
Hey all, I have about 186,000 messages being reinstalled from time machine and it has been running for four hours and still not finished any idea how long this might take? I am beginning to think the process may have crapped out, as I can't do anything on my computer and in mail it says rebuilding gmail that's all it says. Yes, sending this from a different computer. Thanks On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey guys, > > Thanks I have been able to successfully run Time Machine in mail and select a > date. One thing I have noticed is none of my gmail folders have any messages > in them. I have found an archived folder with over 100,000 messages, and > think my best bet is to restore this folder and go through it hoping I can > access all my old messages I need. I thought I properly did this but it > didn't successfully install in my mail. I went back to the other window and > clicked restore but the whole folder didn't restore only a few weird folders > appeared in my mac mail. Any ideas? Thanks, > On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> I've done this before. You can use VO-f2 twice quickly to bring up the >> windows list in time machine, then go to the date/time picker. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> >> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. >> Feynman >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >> >>> Thanks. Not liking what they are telling me that I will need sighted >>> assistance to choose a date in time machine. Hopefully this guy is wrong. >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>> Yes. The number for us is 877-204-3930. I may have to call it myself if I can't figure out how to do a screen shot. I've done one once, but can't remember the command. Gigi On Feb 14, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Ah the fun begins of deleting all those important emails as one of them > was the Apple Accessibility phone number can someone post it. Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Primitive speech synthesis
Hi list: I am playing around with DOS in a virtual machine under VMWare Fusion. I would like to run a DOS screen reader through a serial port. I can add a serial port in Fusion and it outputs to a file. However, I then have to go into terminal and read the file to see what's in there. I tried using the tail command, piping it to say like: tail -f serial.file | say This didn't work, I suppose, because say was not going to speak without an end-of-file. Any other ideas about how I can do this? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
how to get voice over to work when logging out
How do I get Voiceover to still talk once I am logged out? Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: how to get voice over to work when logging out
if you enabled voiceover for the login screen, it should talk. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Scott Berry wrote: > > How do I get Voiceover to still talk once I am logged out? > > Scott > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device? How much does it cost? On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. > > I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might > look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is > pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, > in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I > expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its > default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. > I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am > with the on-screen keyboard. > > Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either > Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, > which I have to edit this weekend. > > --Buddy > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >> know about the availability of this product. >> >> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >> >> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a >> breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another >> innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also >> available. >> >> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >> smartphone. >> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >> this keypad. >> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >> surroundings with my gesture actions. >> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >> who can see. >> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >> us! >> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and Android >> platforms. >> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >> interface. >> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever had >> before to a desktop or iOS device. >> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >> lives. >> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >> My right arm is feeling better already. >> >> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortable >> keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want to keep your >> iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if you want to leave >> your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on sofa or while in bed, or >> if you want to use your iPhone more comfortably and play with it all day >> long, RiVO can be a boon companion to help you use iPhone better than ever >> and unlike everyone else. >> >> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and enjoy >> the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out there that >> make your life easy. >> >> Thanks and best wishes, >> >> Mobience Inc. >> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page >> >> Control from palm to pocket: >> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-contro
Re: how to get voice over to work when logging out
I am not finding the item for this. On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jessica D wrote: > if you enabled voiceover for the login screen, it should talk. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Scott Berry wrote: >> >> How do I get Voiceover to still talk once I am logged out? >> >> Scott >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain Lion on Macbook. I cannot seem to grasp what VO commands to use to move between, say the sidebar and view browser in a Finder window. Been a Windows user for too many years. Thanks for any assistance here. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A backward poet writes inverse. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.co
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
It is $129 USD if my memory is accurate. It is bluetooth. Reading through the online manual, I was struck with how short the battery life is in the unit. I think the manual stated seven or eight hours of battery life. For the cost, I would expect it to be closer to the battery life one gets from bluetooth keyboards, or at least the battery life from the better bluetooth braille displays. Again, for the money, I find it difficult to accept that they did not utilise better power management circuitry / firmware. After all, the device is not powering a braille display or speaker. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Feb 2014, at 14:37, Jessica Moss wrote: > > This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device? > How much does it cost? >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. >> >> I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might >> look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is >> pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, >> in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I >> expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its >> default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. >> I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am >> with the on-screen keyboard. >> >> Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either >> Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, >> which I have to edit this weekend. >> >> --Buddy >> >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver >>> and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use >>> their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people >>> know about the availability of this product. >>> >>> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS >>> VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being >>> about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable >>> with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, >>> and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. >>> >>> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like >>> a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control >>> music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a >>> greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without >>> RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is >>> another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is >>> also available. >>> >>> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: >>> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use >>> smartphone. >>> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. >>> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. >>> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. >>> - I have RiVO with me all the time. >>> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with >>> this keypad. >>> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. >>> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. >>> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. >>> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. >>> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the >>> surroundings with my gesture actions. >>> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like those >>> who can see. >>> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made usable for >>> us! >>> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time. >>> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and >>> Android platforms. >>> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with touchpad >>> interface. >>> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, and >>> has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he had ever >>> had before to a desktop or iOS device. >>> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make the >>> iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device into our >>> lives. >>> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my iPhone. >>> My right arm is feeling better already. >>> >>> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or just >>> slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the comfortab
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
It's 10 hours continuous, and I've gotten a week, at least, of light use. Bear in mind that that's 10 hours of continuous use, not 10 hours of normal use. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes, so that 10 hours is, in practical terms, quite long, as I doubt anyone will be writing "War And Peace" on the RiVO. I don't know what the battery life would be for practical use, because I haven't actually run it down to nothing yet (I charge it first). Also, keep in mind the size. It really is the size of a credit card. I checked. It's only a very tiny bit thicker than the iPhone 5S, hardly enough to even notice. So it's *very* small, and unfortunately, no one's figured out how to modify the laws of physics yet. My first reaction was also that 10 hours wasn't terribly long, but I, for one, don't think i'd type on *anything* for 10 continuous hours. On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:52 PM, David Chittenden wrote: > It is $129 USD if my memory is accurate. It is bluetooth. Reading through the > online manual, I was struck with how short the battery life is in the unit. I > think the manual stated seven or eight hours of battery life. For the cost, I > would expect it to be closer to the battery life one gets from bluetooth > keyboards, or at least the battery life from the better bluetooth braille > displays. Again, for the money, I find it difficult to accept that they did > not utilise better power management circuitry / firmware. After all, the > device is not powering a braille display or speaker. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: dchitten...@gmail.com > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 15 Feb 2014, at 14:37, Jessica Moss wrote: >> >> This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device? >> How much does it cost? >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. >>> >>> I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual >>> might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO >>> really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of >>> Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility >>> center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, >>> given that its default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though >>> mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with >>> the RiVO than I am with the on-screen keyboard. >>> >>> Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either >>> Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, >>> which I have to edit this weekend. >>> >>> --Buddy >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: Hi, I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know about the availability of this product. RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and easy, control music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO users to use a greater number of apps easily every day compared to VoiceOver users without RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod touch. Android TalkBack is another innovative technology from Google, and Android version of RiVO is also available. Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world: - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use smartphone. - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful. - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO. - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate. - I have RiVO with me all the time. - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster with this keypad. - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry. - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long. - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind. - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the move. - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the surroundings with my gesture actions. - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Thank you for providing the thickness of the device. Given the size and what it does, I would expect longer battery life if they were using the latest battery technology and power management firmware circuitry. I would expect the times you give in a unit half its thickness. I have seen small bluetooth controllers which are smaller than the size you state with better battery life, and they do not break the laws of physics / current battery and power management technology. The thing is, these technologies are more expensive, not going against the laws of power dynamics. Again, the device is not powering a speaker, visual display, braille display, or speaker. It is only powering a bluetooth transceiver, basic keyboard circuitry, and a couple LED lights (which use almost no power). Compare this with my tiny bluetooth earpiece which has a mic, speaker, and a dim LED light. It is big enough to cover my ear, which makes it significantly smaller than a credit card, and it is just a little thicker than my iPhone 5. It has a continuous battery life of 8.5 hours. So, no, I am not impressed with the battery life in that unit, It could be better. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Feb 2014, at 15:58, Buddy Brannan wrote: > > It's 10 hours continuous, and I've gotten a week, at least, of light use. > Bear in mind that that's 10 hours of continuous use, not 10 hours of normal > use. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes, so that 10 hours is, in > practical terms, quite long, as I doubt anyone will be writing "War And > Peace" on the RiVO. I don't know what the battery life would be for practical > use, because I haven't actually run it down to nothing yet (I charge it > first). > > Also, keep in mind the size. It really is the size of a credit card. I > checked. It's only a very tiny bit thicker than the iPhone 5S, hardly enough > to even notice. So it's *very* small, and unfortunately, no one's figured out > how to modify the laws of physics yet. > > My first reaction was also that 10 hours wasn't terribly long, but I, for > one, don't think i'd type on *anything* for 10 continuous hours. > >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:52 PM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >> It is $129 USD if my memory is accurate. It is bluetooth. Reading through >> the online manual, I was struck with how short the battery life is in the >> unit. I think the manual stated seven or eight hours of battery life. For >> the cost, I would expect it to be closer to the battery life one gets from >> bluetooth keyboards, or at least the battery life from the better bluetooth >> braille displays. Again, for the money, I find it difficult to accept that >> they did not utilise better power management circuitry / firmware. After >> all, the device is not powering a braille display or speaker. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 14:37, Jessica Moss wrote: >>> >>> This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device? >>> How much does it cost? On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi, I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am with the on-screen keyboard. Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, which I have to edit this weekend. --Buddy > On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver > and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people > use their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make > people know about the availability of this product. > > RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple > iOS VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. > Being about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet > comfortable with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like > telephone keypad, and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the > right, respectively. > > VoiceOver is an innovative technology f
Re: Oh No I HATE Gmail
Google Groups is a real Pain in the Ass with VO. try reporting harassing content. Its like they deliberately made it difficult to navigate. Some suggestions I have for google groups: 1. a groups list frame, a search frame and a main content frame. Inside the main content frame is a table with several colums and links at the top of each column to change sort order of the table by that heading. Believe it or not, this is what www.thepiratebay.se uses. Its very efficient and makes things a lot easier. One can also nest tables for each thread inside the main table. THe headings in the primary table would be : 1. name of thread 2. number of posts 3. original date/time 4 text of the first post in that thread. Under the thread heading in the main table would be a table with the following items: 1. poster 2. time 3 content of post 4. controls for replying, reporting and editing. THere would be a bottom frame on the page that would contain the text editor and various controls for formatting, etc. when the post button is pressed, you would be returned to the main, or secondary table of the content frame to continue reading, etc. It seems complex, but when displayed, its very simple and easily navigable using a screen reader with only a few keys. thats my idea anyway. -eric On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:52 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: > Hey Eric, > > Yes, Google has yet again changed their web layout making it even more > impossible to use with a screen reader like VO. I can't even find a way to > toggle between standard and basic html views anymore. It used to be the first > thing or second thing that came up on the page but it is now. And people tell > me Google is taking accessibility more seriously. Well this new layout of > gmail doesn't point to that. And better luck trying to actually use the > google groups now with VO. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:21 AM, eric oyen wrote: > >> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too >> many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even >> the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in >> standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes >> because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I >> gleaned from reading the console system messages. >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >> >>> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >>> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen wrote: unfortunately, the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial payoff). -eric > On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: > > David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the > standard view to see this setting? > > Regards Chris > >> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change >> the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for >> this to be selected. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >>> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >>> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >>> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >>> >>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >>> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >>> use the web interface? >>> >>> -eric >>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time machine. > On Feb 14, 2014, at
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C wrote: > Hi John, > Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. > I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: >>Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding >> down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds >> with command-F5. >>> From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on >>> that and type, >> resetpassword >> and hit enter. >> This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your >> account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart >> the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password >> to your account password. Be sure to do this. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is >>> the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do >>> this but not when using Voiceover. >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. >>> --Bob Dylan >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: > Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too > vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? > > Quote of the nanosecond . . . > A smile is the same in any language. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > gone.to.da...@gmail.com > > On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked >> this the first time. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: >> >>> I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. >>> >>> I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked >>> for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I >>> never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am >>> gonna take a break from it. LOL >>> >>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>> Oxymoron: Original copy >>> Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn >>> E-mail- >>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>> >>> On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR
Re: Navigating in Mountain Lion with VO
Had done that earlier nbuit went back again. I did not see a 2nd Utilities menu but when I opened the OS X Utilities and clicked the Shoiw All option, I saw a 2nd one. And there it is! But braim fried so will give it a rest for a day. Will let you know when I get that darn password reset. Quote of the nanosecond . . . If the professor on Gilligan's Island can make a radio out of a coconut, why can't he fix a hole in a boat? Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 9:31 PM, John Panarese wrote: Try doing a VO-m when the recovery HD comes up. There should be a Utilities menu. If you go down it, you'll find, Terminal, there. Let me know if I misunderstood you though. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Robert C wrote: Hi John, Its not my day. When I boot into recovery, the OS X Utility menu comes up. I see no Terminzl option there. Am I in the right menu? Quote of the nanosecond . . . You only live once, but if you work it right, once is enough. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 11:03 AM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's accessible. You have to boot into your Recovery HD by holding down command-r during startup. Then, start VoiceOver after about 30 seconds with command-F5. From the Utility menu, you will find an option for, Terminal. VO-space on that and type, resetpassword and hit enter. This will put you into an interface that will allow you to reset your account password. It's important to note that once you do this and restart the computer, you will be asked if you want to sync your keychain password to your account password. Be sure to do this. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 14, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Robert C wrote: Hi John, I know I am going to have to do this before I can really move forward. Is the reset process accessible with Voiceover? I found some info on how to do this but not when using Voiceover. Quote of the nanosecond . . . A mistake is to commit a misunderstanding. --Bob Dylan Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/14/2014 6:44 AM, John Panarese wrote: No, but you won't be able to unlock preferences or install apps without knowing the password for your account. You can reset it, but it's a pain in the backside to do. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:10 PM, Robert C wrote: Good grief. I am given a hint that I probably entered but its too vague. Heh. Will I get locked out after so many failed attemtps? Quote of the nanosecond . . . A smile is the same in any language. Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 8:04 PM, John Panarese wrote: Yes, it's your system or account password. You should only be asked this the first time. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:57 PM, Robert C wrote: I will remember that one once I get past an issue that stumps me. I put Dropbox on the Mac. Now when I want to access it, I am asked for the computer password. Is that the same as the login password? I never entered that as far as I can recall. I am really lost and am gonna take a break from it. LOL Quote of the nanosecond . . . Oxymoron: Original copy Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- gone.to.da...@gmail.com On 2/13/2014 5:32 PM, John Panarese wrote: The easiest way to jump between the sidebar and the browser window in Finder is to use control-option-j. It automatically interacts for you and saves you steps. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:26 PM, Robert C wrote: Need a bit of help. Running Mountain L
Re: Recommendations For BT Keyboard For Mac Air With Page Up/Down & Home/End Keys
Hi, The Logitech does not have these keys. Actually, what you might be after might well be a keyboard with a numpad, then you can use keyboard navigation. Seriously, for the price, I wouldn't worry though, when you think about it, letter keys get pressed far more, and there's always quick nav or control-option lock if you want to use keystrokes with fewer fingers. I've never yet heard of keys wearing out. Cheers Dave On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:18, Eileen Misrahi wrote: > Hello All, > > I am seeking recommendations for a BT keyboard for my Mac Air that has a page > up/down and home/end keys. I am concerned with the amount of use of the VO > keys, command key, and FN key combinations with the arrow keys that in the > future they will wear out. It would be nice to have full navigation with Page > Up/Down and navigation with the Home/End keys, as one has on a full keyboard > on the PC side. I do a tremendous amount of word processing and I need to > edit my work before sending in the final copy to my job site. Recently, the > Logitech 760 information has been posted to this list, but I could not > ascertain if there were the keys listed above on this keyboard. Any > assistance in this area would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > Eileen Î > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Announcing a revolutionary remote for blind smartphone users
Agreed, because how come the iPad mini with retina display has all the bells and whistles yet the battery life is astonishing. So it can be done. Regards Chris On 15/02/2014 03:28, David Chittenden wrote: Thank you for providing the thickness of the device. Given the size and what it does, I would expect longer battery life if they were using the latest battery technology and power management firmware circuitry. I would expect the times you give in a unit half its thickness. I have seen small bluetooth controllers which are smaller than the size you state with better battery life, and they do not break the laws of physics / current battery and power management technology. The thing is, these technologies are more expensive, not going against the laws of power dynamics. Again, the device is not powering a speaker, visual display, braille display, or speaker. It is only powering a bluetooth transceiver, basic keyboard circuitry, and a couple LED lights (which use almost no power). Compare this with my tiny bluetooth earpiece which has a mic, speaker, and a dim LED light. It is big enough to cover my ear, which makes it significantly smaller than a credit card, and it is just a little thicker than my iPhone 5. It has a continuous battery life of 8.5 hours. So, no, I am not impressed with the battery life in that unit, It could be better. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 15 Feb 2014, at 15:58, Buddy Brannan wrote: It's 10 hours continuous, and I've gotten a week, at least, of light use. Bear in mind that that's 10 hours of continuous use, not 10 hours of normal use. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes, so that 10 hours is, in practical terms, quite long, as I doubt anyone will be writing "War And Peace" on the RiVO. I don't know what the battery life would be for practical use, because I haven't actually run it down to nothing yet (I charge it first). Also, keep in mind the size. It really is the size of a credit card. I checked. It's only a very tiny bit thicker than the iPhone 5S, hardly enough to even notice. So it's *very* small, and unfortunately, no one's figured out how to modify the laws of physics yet. My first reaction was also that 10 hours wasn't terribly long, but I, for one, don't think i'd type on *anything* for 10 continuous hours. On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:52 PM, David Chittenden wrote: It is $129 USD if my memory is accurate. It is bluetooth. Reading through the online manual, I was struck with how short the battery life is in the unit. I think the manual stated seven or eight hours of battery life. For the cost, I would expect it to be closer to the battery life one gets from bluetooth keyboards, or at least the battery life from the better bluetooth braille displays. Again, for the money, I find it difficult to accept that they did not utilise better power management circuitry / firmware. After all, the device is not powering a braille display or speaker. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 15 Feb 2014, at 14:37, Jessica Moss wrote: This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device? How much does it cost? On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Hi, I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now. I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the CEO of Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN accessibility center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this would be to use, given that its default key layout is not ABC but rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am with the on-screen keyboard. Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast (either Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief demo of RiVO, which I have to edit this weekend. --Buddy On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee wrote: Hi, I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS VoiceOver and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen blind people use their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my best to make people know about the availability of this product. RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple iOS VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to VoiceOver. Being about the size of a credit card, it is highly portable and yet comfortable with big keys. There are 12 keys in the middle just like telephone keypad, and there are 4 additional keys on the left and on the right, respectively. VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it like a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and
