Hey Eric, Yes, Google has yet again changed their web layout making it even more impossible to use with a screen reader like VO. I can't even find a way to toggle between standard and basic html views anymore. It used to be the first thing or second thing that came up on the page but it is now. And people tell me Google is taking accessibility more seriously. Well this new layout of gmail doesn't point to that. And better luck trying to actually use the google groups now with VO. On Feb 14, 2014, at 6:21 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode (too > many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the top). Even > the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function correctly in > standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then voiceover crashes > because there are too many elements in the browser to process. THis last I > gleaned from reading the console system messages. > > -eric > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: > >> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> unfortunately, >>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't seem >>> to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available in >>> standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent emails >>> to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the problem still >>> has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys just to get their >>> attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not one to file a suit >>> at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and stress for any beneficial >>> payoff). >>> >>> -eric >>> >>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>>> >>>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>>> standard view to see this setting? >>>> >>>> Regards Chris >>>> >>>>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >>>>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the >>>>> archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this >>>>> to be selected. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >>>>>> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >>>>>> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >>>>>> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >>>>>> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to >>>>>> use the web interface? >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should >>>>>>> be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail >>>>>>> just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time >>>>>>> Machine restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure >>>>>>> out time machine. >>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can >>>>>>>> be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't >>>>>>>> been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should still be >>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >>>>>>>>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted >>>>>>>>> permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I >>>>>>>>> am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put the >>>>>>>>> email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am I >>>>>>>>> assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder also >>>>>>>>> overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? If this >>>>>>>>> is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff saved. If >>>>>>>>> this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks totally >>>>>>>>> screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed a >>>>>>>>> label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think >>>>>>>>> placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever >>>>>>>>> they want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can >>>>>>>>> someone let me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the >>>>>>>>> thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. 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