Hi, To get to the Gmail Settings page, do the following:
* Go to your Gmail Home page. * Press shift-tab enough times that it kind of goes around backwards through your Toolbar and around to the bottom of your page. * When VO announces the Settings button, press the return key. * Press the down arrow and you'll hear "Comfort" and some other options and one will be Settings. * Press the return key on the Settings option. This is all done in Safari in the regular Google view, not Basic HTML. Once you're onto the new page, it is a little more navigable with VO. Certainly not a breeze, but Google web-pages seldom are. Usually you can Interact with Tables and grouped areas if necessary, otherwise, if you seem to be getting frustrated with finding things that way, either use the Item Chooser or tab around to get focus to specific elements before using VO navigation. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 14, 2014, at 7:04 AM, isaac <isaac.heb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes the pages are hard to navigate on the mac. > On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:01 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> no, I am not. Some of their website pages are really difficult to navigate >> on a mac. >> >> Do you have the subscribe address? >> >> -eric >> >> On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Are you actually on googles accessibility list? >>> I am sure those on the list would appreciate knowing about the problem. >>> Karen >>> >>> On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, eric oyen wrote: >>> >>>> in Basic html, it isn't there. I can't even get there in standard mode >>>> (too many secondary navigation areas and then being kicked back to the >>>> top). Even the web item rotor for OS X (voiceover) doesn't function >>>> correctly in standard html mode. I have to try in Item chooser and then >>>> voiceover crashes because there are too many elements in the browser to >>>> process. THis last I gleaned from reading the console system messages. >>>> >>>> -eric >>>> >>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:15 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >>>> >>>>> It has been a couple years since I found and changed the setting. At that >>>>> time, it was in the same area where one selects IMAP or POP3. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 23:49, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> unfortunately, >>>>>> the standard view gets very confusing on Safari in OS X. Also, I can't >>>>>> seem to get into settings from there and a lot of the features available >>>>>> in standard view are simply not visible in basic html mode. I have sent >>>>>> emails to googles support team until I am blue in the face and the >>>>>> problem still has not been fixed. what do I have to do? Sue these guys >>>>>> just to get their attention? Unlike a lot of others in the US., I am not >>>>>> one to file a suit at the drop of a hat (its far too much work and >>>>>> stress for any beneficial payoff). >>>>>> >>>>>> -eric >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:15 AM, Chris H wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David and all I cannot find this setting. Do I need to be using the >>>>>>> standard view to see this setting? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 14/02/2014 10:04, David Chittenden wrote: >>>>>>>> You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change >>>>>>>> the archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is >>>>>>>> for this to be selected. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from >>>>>>>>> GMAIL, it always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 >>>>>>>>> entries in it right now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my >>>>>>>>> emails that I want aren't stored locally. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not >>>>>>>>> have it remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having >>>>>>>>> to use the web interface? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They >>>>>>>>>> should be in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from >>>>>>>>>> all mail just permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying >>>>>>>>>> that a Time Machine restore might still have them, as they should >>>>>>>>>> but can't figure out time machine. >>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they >>>>>>>>>>> can be moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it >>>>>>>>>>> hasn't been 30 days since you last deleted anything, they should >>>>>>>>>>> still be there. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the >>>>>>>>>>>> folders where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted >>>>>>>>>>>> permanently in gmail all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and >>>>>>>>>>>> I am always emailing myself stuff and then apply a label and put >>>>>>>>>>>> the email in the proper folder. Phone numbers account log ins. Am >>>>>>>>>>>> I assuming correctly that the deleting of the sent mail folder >>>>>>>>>>>> also overrode the label and folder I had moved the message in to? >>>>>>>>>>>> If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of stuff >>>>>>>>>>>> saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks >>>>>>>>>>>> totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a >>>>>>>>>>>> placed a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you >>>>>>>>>>>> would think placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in >>>>>>>>>>>> gmail whatever they want to call it would take it out of the sent >>>>>>>>>>>> mail folder. Can someone let me know if I totally screwed myself >>>>>>>>>>>> by deleting the thousands of messages in the sent mail folder. 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