Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
yes it will for all of that I have been using a mac for about two and half years in my grad program and I liked it so much that this past summer I bot a imac as well as my 13 intech macbook. maurice ham call sine kd0iko. On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I > have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching > to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to > being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and > Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal > use is a different story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac > laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? > I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a > farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac > program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make > such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing > another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of > JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at > the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the > descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via > the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really > sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also > have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of > interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always > necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of > web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years > now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has > reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about > computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of > necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere > with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
yes it duse I have a 64 gb modle and it anounces it all the time. maurice ham call sine kd0iko. On Dec 4, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if > the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
You mention use of the outlook calender, Snow Leopard does have exchange support in Apple mail, if your work account is on an exchange server. There is a calender application as well, called iCal. iCal is a little tricky to use with VO, but it can be used. Hope this helps. On Dec 5, 2009, at 3:59 AM, Maurice Mines wrote: > yes it will for all of that I have been using a mac for about two and half > years in my grad program and I liked it so much that this past summer I bot a > imac as well as my 13 intech macbook. maurice ham call sine kd0iko. > On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Donna Smith wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I >> have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching >> to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to >> being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and >> Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal >> use is a different story. >> >> So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac >> laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? >> I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a >> farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac >> program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make >> such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing >> another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of >> JAWS! >> >> This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at >> the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the >> descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via >> the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really >> sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also >> have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of >> interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always >> necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of >> web site jumble? >> >> I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years >> now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has >> reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about >> computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of >> necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! >> >> Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere >> with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. >> >> Donna >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problems with voiceover and vmware fusion 3.0
Hi, Yeah, I use it quite successfully. Only thing I have to do is turn VoiceOver off and put it into full screen mode (Control-Command-Enter), and I'm good to go. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:37 AM, anouk radix wrote: > Hello and Greetings from a rather tired Anouk, > I have tried all afternoon and evening to get win7 up and running on my big > pc and virutally on my mac. The latter was successful when a sighted friend > assisted me via teamview. > We now have windows7+windoweyes both 64bit up and running virutally via > vmware fusion 3.0 on the mac. > There is one big problem however. As soon as we get into vmware and start the > image voicover stops working at all if I go back to the mac side or even if I > close vmware altogether. Maybe skype, teamviewer, voicover and vmware fuis > just too much for my mac but it is still worrying because if this happens I > cant get vo to restart at all. > I did assign 2gb to the mac as well as windows 7 and I gave win7 two > processor cores. > Has anybody else tried win7 on a mac running snow leopard and used vmware > fusion to accomplish this? > Greetings, Anouk, > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vmware again
Hi, Alt-tab will not bring you back. Keep in mind that, when you're in a Windows environment, Alt-tab becomes option-tab on your Apple keyboard, and not command-tab. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:41 AM, anouk radix wrote: > Hello everyone, I am awake again. I just started vmware with win7 myself the > first time. It goes fairly quickly. I npotice though that if I do alt-tab > when I am inside win7 it brings me back to the finder and voicover (which is > now still running correctly at least). But control-command does not seem to > have the seem result. > Also my braille display gets connected correctly within the virtual machine > but now that I am out of it it does not get given back to the apple side. > even if I reconnect it.l > Greetings, Anouk, > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Hi Donna, Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not have one. But they work great. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I > have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching > to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to > being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and > Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal > use is a different story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac > laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? > I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a > farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac > program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make > such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing > another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of > JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at > the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the > descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via > the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really > sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also > have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of > interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always > necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of > web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years > now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has > reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about > computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of > necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere > with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: vmware again
Hello, Ok so what does command do under windows in vm? Thanks, i did not know this and will try if this indeed works. Greetings, Anouk, On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Alt-tab will not bring you back. Keep in mind that, when you're in a Windows > environment, Alt-tab becomes option-tab on your Apple keyboard, and not > command-tab. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:41 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> Hello everyone, I am awake again. I just started vmware with win7 myself the >> first time. It goes fairly quickly. I npotice though that if I do alt-tab >> when I am inside win7 it brings me back to the finder and voicover (which is >> now still running correctly at least). But control-command does not seem to >> have the seem result. >> Also my braille display gets connected correctly within the virtual machine >> but now that I am out of it it does not get given back to the apple side. >> even if I reconnect it.l >> Greetings, Anouk, >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: problems with voiceover and vmware fusion 3.0
Hello, Why do you have to turn voiceover off? Greetings, Anouk, On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Yeah, I use it quite successfully. Only thing I have to do is turn VoiceOver > off and put it into full screen mode (Control-Command-Enter), and I'm good to > go. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:37 AM, anouk radix wrote: > >> Hello and Greetings from a rather tired Anouk, >> I have tried all afternoon and evening to get win7 up and running on my big >> pc and virutally on my mac. The latter was successful when a sighted friend >> assisted me via teamview. >> We now have windows7+windoweyes both 64bit up and running virutally via >> vmware fusion 3.0 on the mac. >> There is one big problem however. As soon as we get into vmware and start >> the image voicover stops working at all if I go back to the mac side or even >> if I close vmware altogether. Maybe skype, teamviewer, voicover and vmware >> fuis just too much for my mac but it is still worrying because if this >> happens I cant get vo to restart at all. >> I did assign 2gb to the mac as well as windows 7 and I gave win7 two >> processor cores. >> Has anybody else tried win7 on a mac running snow leopard and used vmware >> fusion to accomplish this? >> Greetings, Anouk, >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Whinings about Amadeus Pro:-)
Hi there. I was trying to edit a podcast that is about to go out soon when i encountered a problem in Amadeus Pro. First, before i ask my questions, i have to say that this rant is due to the fact that i think i don't understand the concepts of Amadeus and how it works as well as i would like to. My problem was that i couldn't cut a selection i had done. I placed a mark at the play head and then extended the selection from the play head position to the previous marker and then i tried to cut the selection, this didn't work for some odd reason and i don't know why. The question i ask myself and any gurus of Amadeus pro is why is the insertion point and the play head two separate entities? What do you actually gain by this approach? For me it only gets more confusing and more time consuming to edit a sound this way. Since i don't understand the logic behind this, the editing gets random. Sometimes placing markers work, sometimes not, sometimes selecting things work and applying operations to a selection works as expected and other times the whole thing gets screwed up and i can't seem to see a rational explanation as to why and there's nothing that i can find in the manual about this so any help would be very much appreciated. My second question is this: Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts available in either text or html with the table correctly rendered? As it is in the manual now, and if it is shown in Preview, i see the shortcut keys in one list and the asociated functions, i.e what the keys do in a separate list, making it useless in practise since you see every single shortcut in a neat little row and then in a totally separate list you see the actions, I would have wanted keys and actions next to eachother. If there's no text or html file with keyboard shortcuts and actions rendered correctly, is there a way for Preview or Skim to show me the shortcut list like that? Thanks for any help. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Problem with Authentication
Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. In any case how can I fix this situation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: file maker pro
Given some of the tricks I mentioned yesteray, you may be able to make it sort of accessible but in an entirely clunky manner. Databases are one of the application sectors, along with accounting and a few other somewhat sophisticated applications that people need to get higher paying jobs and promotions at companies where they currently work. It is a failure of high priced AT vendors, free software (orca, NVDA) and Apple with VoiceOver. Once upon a time, JAWS did work with Access but they stopped keeping the effort alive as few customers requested - the sad thing was that these users all needed it for their jobs which were put into peril due to this strategic decision at FS. The "90%" rule bites us in the butt again. cdh On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:08 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > This is the simple response I received from apple concerning file maker pro > and voiceover. > > I believe a fully accessible database application for the screen reader user > community to be a signifigant problem far over due. > > Ms access is a terrible application and screen reader support is far from > where it should be. > > From: Accessibility [mailto:accessibil...@apple.com] > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:07 PM > To: John W. Carty > Subject: Re: file maker pro > > Hi John: > > Unfortunately, FileMaker pro is not compatible with VoiceOver. > > > On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:14 PM, John W. Carty wrote: > > > Does file maker pro support the cocoa api making it accessible using > voiceover? > > Thanx, > > John Carty > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve sure you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self to you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When they designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility in mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it but, I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a little for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac computer it comes with it. On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Donna, > > Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, you'll > even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when powering it on. > If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest models will have the > trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or iPod Touch touch screen. > Personally, I find it easier to use the iPhone or iPod touch screen to > navigate. I find it pretty hard to navigate without having to interact with > a gesture to see a table, though you can probably touch an item in the > table. I never played with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on > occasion. I've been trying out iPhones for a little while, though I > unfortunately do not have one. But they work great. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I >> have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching >> to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to >> being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and >> Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal >> use is a different story. >> >> So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac >> laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? >> I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a >> farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac >> program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make >> such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing >> another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of >> JAWS! >> >> This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at >> the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the >> descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via >> the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really >> sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also >> have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of >> interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always >> necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of >> web site jumble? >> >> I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years >> now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has >> reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about >> computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of >> necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! >> >> Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere >> with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. >> >> Donna >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Oh and as far as a calendar you can use iCal which is apples calendar aplication and I believe it supports synchronization of your calendar. On 12/5/09, David Denne wrote: > Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve > sure you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces > its self to you via a lovely quick start guide that is very > interactive. Also a macintosh computer can be used in a business or > work environment. When they designed the macintosh operating system > they wanted to keep compatibility in mind also so that macs and pcs > can work together. > For microsoft office things you could use a program called open > office. i have never used it but, I do hear grate reports of how > accessible it is. If you wanna pay a little for iWork09 which is > apples version of microsoft office then you can. I think as of writing > this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac computer it comes with > it. > > On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi Donna, >> >> Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, >> you'll >> even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when powering it >> on. >> If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest models will have the >> trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or iPod Touch touch screen. >> Personally, I find it easier to use the iPhone or iPod touch screen to >> navigate. I find it pretty hard to navigate without having to interact >> with >> a gesture to see a table, though you can probably touch an item in the >> table. I never played with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on >> occasion. I've been trying out iPhones for a little while, though I >> unfortunately do not have one. But they work great. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I >>> have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching >>> to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to >>> being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and >>> Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal >>> use is a different story. >>> >>> So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac >>> laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? >>> I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a >>> farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac >>> program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make >>> such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing >>> another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of >>> JAWS! >>> >>> This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at >>> the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the >>> descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via >>> the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really >>> sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also >>> have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of >>> interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always >>> necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of >>> web site jumble? >>> >>> I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years >>> now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has >>> reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about >>> computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of >>> necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! >>> >>> Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere >>> with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Hi Donna, Are you the Donna Smith that was on the Bookshare Volunteer list a few years back? If so, hi from the other Donna! :) I have had an iphone and a Mac since last July, and I really like them. I warn you though, I went through a period with both, where I just wanted to throw them through a window. With the iphone this only lasted a couple of weeks, with the Mac, it probably lasted about two months. I say this not to discourage you, but so you'll be prepared in the event that you have a similar reaction. However, now that I'm past the adjustment period, I really do love them both. As others have pointed out, the Mac is accessible out of the box, and when you boot up, you'll be prompted for whether you want to use Voiceover. You'll then be taken through a tutorial that will show you some of VO's basic functions. Like you, I still use my PC for work, but any more I do all my personal computing on the Mac. This is a really nice list with lots of helpful people, so don't be afraid to ask questions. Take care, Donna On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I > have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching > to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to > being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and > Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal > use is a different story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac > laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? > I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a > farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac > program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make > such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing > another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of > JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at > the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the > descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via > the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really > sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also > have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of > interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always > necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of > web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years > now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has > reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about > computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of > necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere > with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with Authentication
Hi David, You wrote: > Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a > situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid > whenever I try to install new software. > Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. > In any case how can I fix this situation? I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After booting from the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you can find a Password Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities menu. HTH James On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: > Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a > situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid > whenever I try to install new software. > Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. > In any case how can I fix this situation? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: LaTEX
Hi Esther, An excellent summary (as always). One thing I'd add though is that the way LaTeX handles things like figures and tables can be an issue for those who are both new to this marvellous typesetting system, and also those of us who have been using it for eons. LaTeX uses a sophisticated algorithm to place tables and figures in your document. The generic term that is used is "float". The algorithm estimates space remaining on the page, and determines where the thing will fit. My advice is that if your book, paper, article (etc) requires the use of such things, always get someone sighted to look at the end product as one can never be entirely certain where the tables or figures will end up in the finished document. For anyone who might find them useful, I include some links here that I have found over the years. I have many more, but these will do to get people started. 1. http://www.andy-roberts.net/misc/latex/index.html (a nice tutorial) 2. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Title_Creation (a wiki-book on the topic of LaTeX) 3. www.onlinefreeebooks.net/...ebooks.../a-beginners-guide-to-latex-pdf.html (A free e-book on LaTeX) Hope this helps, Dónal . -Original Message- From: Esther [mailto:mori...@mac.com] Sent: 04 December 2009 18:34 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: LaTEX Hi Ryan, Ryan Mann wrote: > I don't understand. Why can't you just type something like 4x=20 into > a word document? That is, unless this isn't what you mean by an > equation. > The answer is that most professional mathematicians, physicists, or (in some disciplines) engineers have to use equations that have special symbols for integral signs, limits, series expansions, Greek letters, etc. and that these can be embedded several levels deep in both numerator and denominator. These expressions are a nightmare to enter properly into a word document with correct placement. The original TeX programming language was developed by the computer scientist, Donald Knuth, as a way of getting around the extremely high price of publishing mathematical textbooks due to its special type- setting needs and also to get around the often poor final production results. In developing TeX Knuth studied typeface design and devised algorithms for optimal placement, spacing, and justification of text for any given font type. In most word-processing packages (including Word documents), not only is it nearly impossible to correctly generate some complex equations, but once you have managed to do so the results are even harder to correctly insert within the document. Usually, sighted users have to try, look at the incorrect results, and then figure out some way to fudge up the correct placement and spacing. TeX will correctly compute, place, and even break up multi-line equations automatically. It will also, incidentally, handle optimal spacing, alignment, etc. for all regular (i.e., not technical) documents, so you can publish entire books originally produced in TeX. In the physical sciences, many professional journals use TeX as the default submission format, since it is freely available and works cross-platform. At what was originally the Los Alamos preprint site (and what has now become ArXiv, with several sites across the world) for the electronic distribution of scientific work by physicists, mathematicians, computer scientists, and others, well over 99 per cent of the submissions are in TeX format -- even for papers without equations. The fact that TeX does an excellent job in outputting all international languages including those that do not use alphabetic characters also adds to its popularity. The main drawback is that it has a steep initial learning curve, and is probably overkill for what most people need to do in word processing. However, it is extremely convenient to be able to change the entire layout of your paper simply by changing a one-word argument for the style file you are using. (And by change, I mean formatting far beyond what Word supports --- not just line spacing and fonts, but how sections and sub-sections are numbered and formatted, their indentations conventions, etc. Or in bibliography mode, whether the entries are listed in the order they are cited or alphabetically, and with which citation style.) HTH. Dónal or Nicolai might want to add comments. Cheers, Esther > On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> No bother Nick. Have to say that I wholeheartedly approve of that >> requirement... If you've never tried to insert equations into a word >> doc, be very grateful. That kind of experience should be reserved >> for the truly masochistic. *smile* >> >> Cheers >> >> Donal >> On 4 Dec 2009, at 12:11, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi Donal, >>> >>> I definitely will. Thanks a lot for the tips, and great someone >>> knows about this. It's a requirement in my country for mathematical >>> studies. I'll definitely throw some quest
RE: Read: question on how to be able to play ogg streams and files in Itunes.
Hi, I'm also using this plug-in. However, one thing anyone who wishes to try it should note is that ogg files are not "bookmarkable". this means that once you stop the audio, a record of the position in the file is not maintained causing audio playback to resume from the start. This could, of course just be my setup but I've noticed it quite a lot. I've even tried to convert the tracks to be "bookmarkable", but to no avail. Cheers Dónal -Original Message- From: Esther [mailto:mori...@mac.com] Sent: 04 December 2009 18:47 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Read: question on how to be able to play ogg streams and files in Itunes. Hi Mike, Michael Huckabay wrote: > I am righting to see if enny one knows how to get Itunes to play Ogg > files and ogg streams. I think there may be a plug in or something > but am not sure so enny help would be grate thanks. You don't mention whether you're trying to play Ogg files in Snow Leopard or Leopard. There's a Xiph QuickTime plug-in for Leopard, but according to various comments there is not yet a version for Snow Leopard. See, for example, this MacUpdate download page for Xiph QuickTime Components 0.1.9: http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/20014 The main Xiph QuickTime Components page is here: http://www.xiph.org/quicktime/ but it doesn't have comment information on whether things work for Snow Leopard. Note that the last software release as given on both sites is June 14, 2009 -- several months ago and well before the release of Snow Leopard. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
-- Re: Problem with Authentication
Thanks. I'll check it out. On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:46 AM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi David, > > You wrote: >> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a >> situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid >> whenever I try to install new software. >> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. >> In any case how can I fix this situation? > > I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After booting from > the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you can find a Password > Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities menu. > > HTH > > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: > > >> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a >> situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid >> whenever I try to install new software. >> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. >> In any case how can I fix this situation? >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with Authentication
Hi James, You wrote, > "I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD" I presume for security, it must be the "actual disk" you used with the setting up of the machine, and not just any "installation disk". Cheers, U2me&me2u, Stan. On 05 Dec 2009, at 3:46 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi David, > > You wrote: >> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got >> myself in a situation where my authentication name or password >> seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. >> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the >> machine. >> In any case how can I fix this situation? > > I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After > booting from the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you > can find a Password Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities menu. > > HTH > > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: > > >> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got >> myself in a situation where my authentication name or password >> seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. >> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the >> machine. >> In any case how can I fix this situation? >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Correct. On all points. Although there is a learning curve, it's less of a technical one and more or less all about some of the differences in which access is approached. On 2009-12-04, at 11:23 PM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I > have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching > to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to > being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and > Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal > use is a different story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac > laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? > I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a > farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac > program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make > such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing > another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of > JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at > the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the > descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via > the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really > sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also > have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of > interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always > necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of > web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years > now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has > reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about > computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of > necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere > with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Donna, You are correct a Mac is fully accessible right out of the box. Anything you can do on he PC you can do on the Mac, accept for scanning and reading documents. There is no Mac equivalent to OpenBook. Matt Roberts On Dec 4, 2009, at 11:23 PM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I > have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching > to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to > being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and > Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal > use is a different story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac > laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? > I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a > farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac > program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make > such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing > another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of > JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at > the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the > descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via > the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really > sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also > have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of > interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always > necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of > web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years > now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has > reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about > computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of > necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere > with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
In addition to Numbers, you can also use Openoffice.org for spreadsheet applications. The program is free. Matt Roberts On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:24 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > I don't own a Mac, myself, but you've got it basically right. The only big > problem I see from your perspective is that there doesn't seem to be a > really useable spreadsheet program in the Mac world. Numbers is not quite > VO compatible yet. That will probably change, but who knows when and how > well. > Otherwise, you're probably fine. > required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal use is a different > story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac laptop > will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? I need the > internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a farily big user of > Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac program might be. I > understand that there is a learning curve to make such a switch, but is it > possible to do this without purchasing another type of third-part screen > reading software? I am so sick of JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at the > prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the descriptions I've > read that allow you to move through information via the touch screen, thus > getting a real sens of page layout, has really sparked my interest. Do I > understande correctly that laptops also have some kind of touch pad mouse > that allows this same kind of interaction with information on the screen so > that it's not always necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through > massive amounts of web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years now, I > am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has reluctantly > had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about computer set-up and the > inter-workings of various software out of necessity. So don't get too > technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere with the > flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email > to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with Authentication
You can put in your OSX installation DVD, and there is a password recovery item urn the utilities menu. This information is also available in Mac help. Matt Roberts On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:06 AM, David McLean wrote: > Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a > situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid > whenever I try to install new software. > Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. > In any case how can I fix this situation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but you can get the information from the status bar. Matt Roberts On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if > the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
-- Re: Problem with Authentication
Actually it turned out to be easier than I expected. I went to system preferences/accounts an tried changing my password by entering nothing in the old password field and sure enough that was the problem. Apparently the password I thought I had entered had not taken for some reason. Thanks for the help. On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: > You can put in your OSX installation DVD, and there is a password recovery > item urn the utilities menu. This information is also available in Mac help. > > > Matt Roberts > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:06 AM, David McLean wrote: > >> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a >> situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid >> whenever I try to install new software. >> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. >> In any case how can I fix this situation? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: Introduction and Newby Questions
David, I hear that "Numbers" is not terribly accessible. Do you do any work with that? Have you any opinions? Kevin -Original Message- From: David Denne [mailto:dvdde...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:27 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve sure you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self to you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When they designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility in mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it but, I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a little for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac computer it comes with it. On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi Donna, > > Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, > you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when > powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest > models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or > iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the > iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to > navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, > though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played > with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been > trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not > have one. But they work great. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > >> Hi all. >> >> I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and >> I have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of >> switching to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are >> too tied to being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, >> Excel and Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but >> personal use is a different story. >> >> So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac >> laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? >> I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a >> farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac >> program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to >> make such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing >> another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of >> JAWS! >> >> This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at >> the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the >> descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via >> the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really >> sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also >> have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of >> interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always >> necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of >> web site jumble? >> >> I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years >> now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who >> has reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about >> computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of >> necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it >> simple! >> >> Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere >> with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby >> questions. >> >> Donna >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to >> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send >> email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send > email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group
Re: Problem with Authentication
Hi Stan, I think, if it is a retail copy of SL, then it can be any retail copy. On 5 Dec 2009, at 15:00, Stan wrote: > Hi James, > You wrote, >> "I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD" > I presume for security, it must be the "actual disk" you used with > the setting up of the machine, and not just any "installation disk". > Cheers, > U2me&me2u, > Stan. > > On 05 Dec 2009, at 3:46 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi David, >> >> You wrote: >>> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got >>> myself in a situation where my authentication name or password >>> seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. >>> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the >>> machine. >>> In any case how can I fix this situation? >> >> I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After >> booting from the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you >> can find a Password Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities menu. >> >> HTH >> >> James >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: >> >> >>> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got >>> myself in a situation where my authentication name or password >>> seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. >>> Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the >>> machine. >>> In any case how can I fix this situation? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >>> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >>> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Thanks everyone for all this great information! It looks like I may be about to spend some money on a Mac! I may wait till after the holidays, but I'm definitely going to make the switch. I'll still have my current Windows-based netbook to use while I'm learning the Mac. And yes, Donna, I'm the other Donna from the BookShare volunteer list. I haven't been on the list for a while, though I still contribute scans. It sounds like I'll be keeping my old Dell laptop set up for OCR work, but that's no problem. I always used my older laptop for that anyway. It was just easier than tying up my current laptop with scans. Thanks again to everyone. This is really exciting! Donna On 12/5/09, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > David, > I hear that "Numbers" is not terribly accessible. Do you do any > work with that? Have you any opinions? > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: David Denne [mailto:dvdde...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:27 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions > > > Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve sure > you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self to > you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a > macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When they > designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility in > mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office > things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it but, > I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a little > for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I > think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac computer > it comes with it. > > On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> Hi Donna, >> >> Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, >> you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when >> powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest >> models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or >> iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the >> iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to >> navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, >> though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played >> with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been >> trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not >> have one. But they work great. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and >>> I have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of >>> switching to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are >>> too tied to being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, >>> Excel and Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but >>> personal use is a different story. >>> >>> So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac >>> laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? >>> I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a >>> farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac >>> program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to >>> make such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing >>> another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of >>> JAWS! >>> >>> This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at >>> the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the >>> descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via >>> the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really >>> sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also >>> have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of >>> interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always >>> necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of >>> web site jumble? >>> >>> I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years >>> now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who >>> has reluctantly had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about >>> computer set-up and the inter-workings of various software out of >>> necessity. So don't get too technical on me. Keep it >>> simple! >>> >>> Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere >>> with the flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby >>> questions. >>> >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Hi I'm a bit confused. You can always get the time by touching the status bar in the center or when you are on the unlock screen. Do you mean you want something that announces the time automatically every so often? Pete Nalda wrote: > Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if > the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Time Machine confusion
Hi folks, I want to restore one file -- just one file -- using Time Machine. (I use a Time Capsule.) I launch Time Machine, get back to the date and time I want -- and then don't know what to do to get to and select the file I want. There's a restore button, but I'm not sure at all what that would be restoring, so I'm afraid to just click on it. Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Whinings about Amadeus Pro:-)
Hi Krister Well, as for the why, think of it like the VO cursor versus the keyboard focus. You can have one positioned somewhere while marking out positions with the other. As for why your cut didn't work, from your steps you did not route the insertion point to the play head. There's two ways to do this, either route the insertion point to the play head with cmd-y, or use option +left and option+right to move the insertion point to the correct marker and then extend the selection in the desired direction. From there, do whatever you wish to do with the selected audio. One recommendation, in Amadeus preferences, set the "when selection is empty" setting to "play from insertion point." This will let you here where the insertion point is by playing when you move (note though that this will also move the play head). This is a useful option, however I don't believe it is the default. hth Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi there. > I was trying to edit a podcast that is about to go out soon when i > encountered a problem in Amadeus Pro. First, before i ask my questions, i > have to say that this rant is due to the fact that i think i don't understand > the concepts of Amadeus and how it works as well as i would like to. > My problem was that i couldn't cut a selection i had done. I placed a mark at > the play head and then extended the selection from the play head position to > the previous marker and then i tried to cut the selection, this didn't work > for some odd reason and i don't know why. The question i ask myself and any > gurus of Amadeus pro is why is the insertion point and the play head two > separate entities? What do you actually gain by this approach? For me it only > gets more confusing and more time consuming to edit a sound this way. Since i > don't understand the logic behind this, the editing gets random. Sometimes > placing markers work, sometimes not, sometimes selecting things work and > applying operations to a selection works as expected and other times the > whole thing gets screwed up and i can't seem to see a rational explanation as > to why and there's nothing that i can find in the manual about this so any > help would be very much appreciated. > My second question is this: Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts available > in either text or html with the table correctly rendered? As it is in the > manual now, and if it is shown in Preview, i see the shortcut keys in one > list and the asociated functions, i.e what the keys do in a separate list, > making it useless in practise since you see every single shortcut in a neat > little row and then in a totally separate list you see the actions, I would > have wanted keys and actions next to eachother. If there's no text or html > file with keyboard shortcuts and actions rendered correctly, is there a way > for Preview or Skim to show me the shortcut list like that? > Thanks for any help. > /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
Hi, I am trying to use the iPhone to gain access to one of those automated telephone systems. I'm sure you all know the sort of thing "press one to go insane, press 2 to have more automated options, press * to hear these options again". However, after dialling the initial number, I can't seem to: 1. find the keyboard; 2. as a consequence enter the numbers required to proceed. Has anyone any tips for dealing with this? Do I need to tweak a setting or something? Thanks Dónal OK the subject of this mail isn't the greatest description I've ever come up with but the problem is this. I'm trying to ring one of our telecom providers, and they require me -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac mini
You have to have a monitor, it's that simple. - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: mac mini I'm a new mac mini owner and just purchased the november version of the mini. I unhooked my mini DVI to VGA adapter and tried to play a DVD and got a DVD initialization error and DVD Player busy notice. SO I'd say this advisor is wrong. Rick - Original Message - From: "louie" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:27 PM Subject: mac mini Hi all, I just got off the phone with a mac adviser. I was told that the new Mac mini does not need any special adapter to work with out a monitor. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mac mini
Is that the adapter that came with your Mac? Mine sure as hell doesn't work. - Original Message - From: "Rick Harmon" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: mac mini Yes it does work correctly with the mini DVI to VGA adapter plugged in to the mac mini with no monitor hooked to the adapter. I'm currently playing a DVD with no problems. Not sure if this enough to prove it needs no monitor or not though but it looks to be a good sign if you have the november version of the mini as I do. Rick - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: Re: mac mini Hi, So does the new mac mini run correctly with the adaptor plugged in and no monitor attached. I bought mine in April and it has to have the monitor attached. Steve On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:16 PM, David Denne wrote: > Oh alright I see. well yes then you are correct there. I don't know if > you read my profile or not but but I beta test VO so that is my hole > reason for coming on here. I want to get any feedback possible > whethere it be negative or postitive feedback. > > On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> Yes I realize this, I was just commenting on the post where the person >> said >> the newest mac minis didn't require a display to be plugged in to the >> mini >> for VO to work right. I have a brand new mac mini here and it does not >> work >> as the poster stated when no adapter is used. >> >> Rick >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "David Denne" >> To: >> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:57 PM >> Subject: Re: mac mini >> >> >> Hello rick. Keep one of the monitor adapters pluged in to your Mac >> mini. It will cause your mac mini to think there is a monitor and it >> should work as you want it to. If not I'll see what I can do to figure >> this out. >> >> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon wrote: >>> I'm a new mac mini owner and just purchased the november version of the >>> mini. I unhooked my mini DVI to VGA adapter and tried to play a DVD and >>> got >>> a DVD initialization error and DVD Player busy notice. SO I'd say this >>> advisor is wrong. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "louie" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:27 PM >>> Subject: mac mini >>> >>> >>> Hi all, >>> I just got off the phone with a mac adviser. I was told that the new >>> Mac mini does not need any special adapter to work with out a monitor. >>> >>> louie >>> louiem...@wavecable.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To uns
Re: -- Re: mac mini
And mine which was purchased during the last weekend in August won't work either. - Original Message - From: "David McLean" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:44 PM Subject: -- Re: mac mini Apparently then there must have been a hardware update between September and November because mine which was purchased in September doesn't work. On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:37 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > Yes it does work correctly with the mini DVI to VGA adapter plugged in to > the mac mini with no monitor hooked to the adapter. I'm currently playing > a > DVD with no problems. > > Not sure if this enough to prove it needs no monitor or not though but it > looks to be a good sign if you have the november version of the mini as I > do. > > Rick > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:20 PM > Subject: Re: mac mini > > > Hi, > > So does the new mac mini run correctly with the adaptor plugged in and no > monitor attached. I bought mine in April and it has to have the monitor > attached. > > Steve > On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:16 PM, David Denne wrote: > >> Oh alright I see. well yes then you are correct there. I don't know if >> you read my profile or not but but I beta test VO so that is my hole >> reason for coming on here. I want to get any feedback possible >> whethere it be negative or postitive feedback. >> >> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon wrote: >>> Hi David, >>> >>> Yes I realize this, I was just commenting on the post where the person >>> said >>> the newest mac minis didn't require a display to be plugged in to the >>> mini >>> for VO to work right. I have a brand new mac mini here and it does not >>> work >>> as the poster stated when no adapter is used. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "David Denne" >>> To: >>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: mac mini >>> >>> >>> Hello rick. Keep one of the monitor adapters pluged in to your Mac >>> mini. It will cause your mac mini to think there is a monitor and it >>> should work as you want it to. If not I'll see what I can do to figure >>> this out. >>> >>> On 12/4/09, Rick Harmon wrote: I'm a new mac mini owner and just purchased the november version of the mini. I unhooked my mini DVI to VGA adapter and tried to play a DVD and got a DVD initialization error and DVD Player busy notice. SO I'd say this advisor is wrong. Rick - Original Message - From: "louie" To: Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 4:27 PM Subject: mac mini Hi all, I just got off the phone with a mac adviser. I was told that the new Mac mini does not need any special adapter to work with out a monitor. louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to ma
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
When you encounter the phone systems, run your finger along the bottom of the screen, by the "home" button. You need to put the phone on speaker phone mode for this to work. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to use the iPhone to gain access to one of those automated > telephone systems. I'm sure you all know the sort of thing "press one to go > insane, press 2 to have more automated options, press * to hear these > options again". > > However, after dialling the initial number, I can't seem to: > 1. find the keyboard; > 2. as a consequence enter the numbers required to proceed. > > Has anyone any tips for dealing with this? Do I need to tweak a setting or > something? > > Thanks > > Dónal > OK the subject of this mail isn't the greatest description I've ever come up > with but the problem is this. I'm trying to ring one of our telecom > providers, and they require me > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with Authentication
Hi James, On 05 Dec 2009, at 6:26 PM, James & Nash wrote:, "I think, if it is a retail copy of SL, then it can be any retail copy" If I am reading this, as it seams, I do not know why we even bother with "passwords" and encoding", for all we need to break in is a "copy or retail disk", or am I missing something? Cheers, U2me&me2u, Stan. On 05 Dec 2009, at 6:26 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Hi Stan, > > I think, if it is a retail copy of SL, then it can be any retail copy. > On 5 Dec 2009, at 15:00, Stan wrote: > >> Hi James, >> You wrote, >>> "I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD" >> I presume for security, it must be the "actual disk" you used with >> the setting up of the machine, and not just any "installation disk". >> Cheers, >> U2me&me2u, >> Stan. >> >> On 05 Dec 2009, at 3:46 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> You wrote: Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. In any case how can I fix this situation? >>> >>> I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After >>> booting from the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you >>> can find a Password Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities >>> menu. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> James >>> On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got myself in a situation where my authentication name or password seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the machine. In any case how can I fix this situation? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >>> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >>> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
No, this person did something to make her iphone say the time. On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Jake wrote: > Hi > I'm a bit confused. You can always get the time by touching the status > bar in the center or when you are on the unlock screen. Do you mean > you want something that announces the time automatically every so > often? > > Pete Nalda wrote: >> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if >> the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: > I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but you can get > the information from the status bar. > > Matt Roberts > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if >> the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Problem with Authentication
Hi Stan, You wrote: > If I am reading this, as it seams, I do not know why we even bother > with "passwords" and encoding", for all we need to break in is a > "copy or retail disk", or am I missing something? That's an interesting question and something I had not considered. What you suggest seems theoretically very possible, but perhaps there are some safeguards to prevent this? H. TC James On 5 Dec 2009, at 18:09, Stan wrote: > Hi James, > On 05 Dec 2009, at 6:26 PM, James & Nash wrote:, > "I think, if it is a retail copy of SL, then it can be any retail copy" > If I am reading this, as it seams, I do not know why we even bother > with "passwords" and encoding", for all we need to break in is a > "copy or retail disk", or am I missing something? > Cheers, > U2me&me2u, > Stan. > > On 05 Dec 2009, at 6:26 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi Stan, >> >> I think, if it is a retail copy of SL, then it can be any retail copy. >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 15:00, Stan wrote: >> >>> Hi James, >>> You wrote, "I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD" >>> I presume for security, it must be the "actual disk" you used with >>> the setting up of the machine, and not just any "installation disk". >>> Cheers, >>> U2me&me2u, >>> Stan. >>> >>> On 05 Dec 2009, at 3:46 PM, James & Nash wrote: >>> Hi David, You wrote: > Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got > myself in a situation where my authentication name or password > seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. > Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the > machine. > In any case how can I fix this situation? I think you can fix this if you use your installation DVD. After booting from the DVD and passing the Language selection screen, you can find a Password Reset or Recovery function in the Utilities menu. HTH James On 5 Dec 2009, at 12:06, David McLean wrote: > Hello, I just installed an Imac yesterday and some how I've got > myself in a situation where my authentication name or password > seems to be invalid whenever I try to install new software. > Apparently I didn't type what I thought when first registering the > machine. > In any case how can I fix this situation? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries > +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ > group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >>> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >>> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries >> +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ >> group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
On the Touch, run your finger across the top of the screen. Matt Roberts Sent from my iPhone using VoiceOver On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the > Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: > >> I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but >> you can get the information from the status bar. >> >> Matt Roberts >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and >>> wondered if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
A question about speech recognition in system preferences
Someone asked: "I've looked with some curiosity at the speech recognition capabilities of the Mac. I wonder if I can create my own custom phrases that the mac will obey. For instance, if I'm in the finder and I want to move something to the trash, can I create a rule to say "trash this" or "kill this" instead of "move this to the trash"? If so, how?" When I looked at this question using a google I found that an applescript can be attached to a voice command of one's choice. Sorry, don't recall the source. I did post about it here so it should be in the archives. XB IC|XC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac Mail
I am using Mac mail to access a school e-mail account. It is an IMAP account. I set up the account and for the first couple of weeks, it was working fine. Now, I can only send mail but cannot receive mail. I checked with the school help desk but they cannot locate the problem. We checked the port. We checked the port using terminal. We checked the username and password. We checked the Internet connection. I am still receiving mail in Mac mail with my Gmail account. I have AT&T as my DSL connection. Can anybody recommend other areas for me to check? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Introduction
Hi Everyone, Some of you here probably know me from the Windows side of town. For those of you that don't know me, my name is Rick Harmon and I run the Blind Geek Zone website where i provide lots of free tutorials for Windows and primarily Jaws. I Just purchased a mac mini a couple of weeks ago and decided to do a series of podcasts from the perspective of switching over to the mac from a windows point of view. I know litterally nothing about the mac side of town and have been curious for a while now about using one. So far reviews have been quite positive and I plan to continue to do more podcasts as I learn how to do more and more with the mac. Anyone interested in listening to them, the links will follow. mac podcast 1: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast1.mp3 mac podcast 2: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast2.mp3 mac podcast 3: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast3.mp3 Remember these podcasts are primarily geared to people curious about switching over to the mac from windows and are not really for experienced mac users, unless you want to have a laugh. Enjoy, Thanks for providing a great list for learning the mac. Rick Harmon --- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and reply to the confirmation msg. Contact info: Email - rickhar...@sbcglobal.net & rhar...@blind-geek-zone.net Skype - rharmon928 Twitter - RicksterTheGeek and BlindGeekZone MSN - blindgeekz...@live.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Whinings about Amadeus Pro:-)
5 dec 2009 kl. 18.36 skrev Jake: > route the insertion point to the play head with cmd-y, or use option > +left and option+right to move the insertion point to the correct > marker and then extend the selection in the desired direction. This is exactly what i did, and sometimes it works and sometimes not, and i can't figure out when it works and when it doesn't. I guess i'll have to experiment even more with Amadeus in order for my head to get around the concepts. /Krister -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Mac Mail
I am using Mac mail to access a school e-mail account. It is an IMAP account. I set up the account and for the first couple of weeks, it was working fine. Now, I can only send mail but cannot receive mail. I checked with the school help desk but they cannot locate the problem. We checked the port. We checked the port using terminal. We checked the username and password. We checked the Internet connection. I am still receiving mail in Mac mail with my Gmail account. I have AT&T as my DSL connection. Can anybody recommend other areas for me to check? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Actually, I'm having good luck with openoffice.org for spreadsheeting. I don't have to do complex formulas with it or anything. I just use it for filling out my time sheets for work. I get the impression there can be more too it than what I use it for though. Best, erik burggraaf A+ certified technician and user support consultant. Phone: 888-255-5194 Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com On 2009-12-05, at 12:24 AM, Kevin Gibbs wrote: > I don't own a Mac, myself, but you've got it basically right. The only big > problem I see from your perspective is that there doesn't seem to be a > really useable spreadsheet program in the Mac world. Numbers is not quite > VO compatible yet. That will probably change, but who knows when and how > well. > Otherwise, you're probably fine. > Kevin > > -Original Message- > From: Donna Smith [mailto:donnafsmit...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:23 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Introduction and Newby Questions > > > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I have > recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching to a Mac, > at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to being able to > share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and Word, and we're > required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal use is a different > story. > > So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac laptop > will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? I need the > internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a farily big user of > Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac program might be. I > understand that there is a learning curve to make such a switch, but is it > possible to do this without purchasing another type of third-part screen > reading software? I am so sick of JAWS! > > This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at the > prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the descriptions I've > read that allow you to move through information via the touch screen, thus > getting a real sens of page layout, has really sparked my interest. Do I > understande correctly that laptops also have some kind of touch pad mouse > that allows this same kind of interaction with information on the screen so > that it's not always necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through > massive amounts of web site jumble? > > I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years now, I > am no programmer or technician. I am a functional user who has reluctantly > had to learn more than I ever wanted to know about computer set-up and the > inter-workings of various software out of necessity. So don't get too > technical on me. Keep it simple! > > Thanks much for allowing me to join and I promise not to interfere with the > flow of techie talk too much with irritating newby questions. > > Donna > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email > to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail
Under the mailbox icon after hitting VO try get all new mail. I had this happen once. This resolved the issue. Some how it got confused. if this does not work you may need to rebuild the account. Pete On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:32 PM, Marc Grossman wrote: > I am using Mac mail to access a school e-mail account. It is an IMAP > account. I set up the account and for the first couple of weeks, it was > working fine. Now, I can only send mail but cannot receive mail. I checked > with the school help desk but they cannot locate the problem. We checked the > port. We checked the port using terminal. We checked the username and > password. We checked the Internet connection. I am still receiving mail in > Mac mail with my Gmail account. I have AT&T as my DSL connection. > > Can anybody recommend other areas for me to check? > > Thanks > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Hi, Yes, when it is unlocked you can hit the status icons. Otherwise, when locked, you hit the sleep button which, incidentally, also allows you to double-tap the unlock button. That's how it works for me in the shops anyway. I'd provide more details if I had one, but that's how I've done it and I'd assume there'd be no reason to remove this in the latest release. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: > No, this person did something to make her iphone say the time. > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:27 AM, Jake wrote: > >> Hi >> I'm a bit confused. You can always get the time by touching the status >> bar in the center or when you are on the unlock screen. Do you mean >> you want something that announces the time automatically every so >> often? >> >> Pete Nalda wrote: >>> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered >>> if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction
Hi Rick, Definitely glad you're trying the Mac. From listening to the podcasts, it sounds like you had some interesting things happen during the install, for sure. I definitely hope that isn't actually putting you off attempting to fiddle around more with the system. I hope you're enjoying the experience, and good luck playing with your Mac. Feel free to mail me off-list in case there's something you'd like me to explain, to show you, or whatever. I'm all for trying to help someone make the transition easier, as I switched in August myself. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Some of you here probably know me from the Windows side of town. For those > of you that don't know me, my name is Rick Harmon and I run the Blind Geek > Zone website where i provide lots of free tutorials for Windows and primarily > Jaws. I Just purchased a mac mini a couple of weeks ago and decided to do a > series of podcasts from the perspective of switching over to the mac from a > windows point of view. I know litterally nothing about the mac side of town > and have been curious for a while now about using one. So far reviews have > been quite positive and I plan to continue to do more podcasts as I learn how > to do more and more with the mac. Anyone interested in listening to them, > the links will follow. > > mac podcast 1: > > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast1.mp3 > > mac podcast 2: > > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast2.mp3 > > mac podcast 3: > > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast3.mp3 > > Remember these podcasts are primarily geared to people curious about > switching over to the mac from windows and are not really for experienced mac > users, unless you want to have a laugh. > > Enjoy, > > > Thanks for providing a great list for learning the mac. > > Rick Harmon > > > --- > Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: > http://www.blind-geek-zone.net > and my web Blog at: > http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ > > Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: > blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > and reply to the confirmation msg. > > Contact info: > Email - rickhar...@sbcglobal.net & rhar...@blind-geek-zone.net > Skype - rharmon928 > Twitter - RicksterTheGeek and BlindGeekZone > MSN - blindgeekz...@live.com > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Hi Pete, Matt, Jacob, and Others, Time on the iPhone and iPod Touch is automatically announced when the screen is in locked mode and you press the "Home" button. This means that if your screen is locked (e.g., if you pressed the power button at the top of your iPhone or iPod Touch to lock your screen, or if you have your iPhone or iPod Touch set to automatically lock after a specified time of inactivity), then pressing the "Home" button at the bottom tells you the time. You could also press the power button twice to get this information. If you then flick right anywhere on the screen you'll get the date announcement, e.g. "Saturday, 5th December". Incidentally, when the screen is in locked mode, the touch screen area for the time is a large region at the top center of the screen just below where time normally appears on the status bar line. (The touchable region for time on the status bar is much smaller). On the lock screen, touching the center of the status bar at the top of the screen announces "Screen Locked". Touch or move your finger just below the time area to get the date. I think this topic was either my first or second post to the viphone list, in response to somebody's questing about where to find battery status information (and about the status bar). I found out that this feature was added on in one of the then recent software updates (to OS 3.1, I think). The software updates have added great features, like the ability to set triple-click home to toggle VoiceOver on and off in your Settings menu, which gives you access to some apps that otherwise would be problematic, or the ability to do copy and paste, or access to the index lists to songs and address book entries. (These are all standard now, but weren't features in the original iPhone OS 3.0 release for VoiceOver users.) And for new users, the "Practice VoiceOver Gestures" screen that was added to the Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver menu that was added in one of these software updates is a great way to start working with gestures. HTH Cheers, Esther Pete Nalda wrote: > Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the > Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: > >> I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but >> you can get the information from the status bar. >> >> Matt Roberts >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and >>> wondered if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Hi, Thanks Ester! I was so close. Heh. :). Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Pete, Matt, Jacob, and Others, > > Time on the iPhone and iPod Touch is automatically announced when the > screen is in locked mode and you press the "Home" button. This means > that if your screen is locked (e.g., if you pressed the power button > at the top of your iPhone or iPod Touch to lock your screen, or if you > have your iPhone or iPod Touch set to automatically lock after a > specified time of inactivity), then pressing the "Home" button at the > bottom tells you the time. You could also press the power button > twice to get this information. If you then flick right anywhere on > the screen you'll get the date announcement, e.g. "Saturday, 5th > December". > > Incidentally, when the screen is in locked mode, the touch screen area > for the time is a large region at the top center of the screen just > below where time normally appears on the status bar line. (The > touchable region for time on the status bar is much smaller). On the > lock screen, touching the center of the status bar at the top of the > screen announces "Screen Locked". Touch or move your finger just > below the time area to get the date. > > I think this topic was either my first or second post to the viphone > list, in response to somebody's questing about where to find battery > status information (and about the status bar). I found out that this > feature was added on in one of the then recent software updates (to OS > 3.1, I think). The software updates have added great features, like > the ability to set triple-click home to toggle VoiceOver on and off in > your Settings menu, which gives you access to some apps that otherwise > would be problematic, or the ability to do copy and paste, or access > to the index lists to songs and address book entries. (These are all > standard now, but weren't features in the original iPhone OS 3.0 > release for VoiceOver users.) And for new users, the "Practice > VoiceOver Gestures" screen that was added to the Settings > General > > Accessibility > VoiceOver menu that was added in one of these software > updates is a great way to start working with gestures. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the >> Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: >> >>> I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but >>> you can get the information from the status bar. >>> >>> Matt Roberts >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this gr
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Hi Nic, You were actually right, but all you need to do to get the time announcement when the screen is locked is to press the "sleep" button at the top -- which is also the power button, and which puts the screen into locked mode when you tap it. Some people prefer to carry their iPhones in a pocket, in which case accessing the button at the top to announce time is easier than pressing the home button at the bottom when the screen is locked. Either key press (the "sleep/power" button at the top or the "home" button at the bottom) causes the time to be announced when the iPhone or iPod Touch is in screen locked mode. And to put the screen in locked mode if it isn't already you can press the "sleep/power" button at the top of the device once. HTH Cheers, Esther Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks Ester! I was so close. Heh. :). > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Pete, Matt, Jacob, and Others, >> >> Time on the iPhone and iPod Touch is automatically announced when the >> screen is in locked mode and you press the "Home" button. This means >> that if your screen is locked (e.g., if you pressed the power button >> at the top of your iPhone or iPod Touch to lock your screen, or if >> you >> have your iPhone or iPod Touch set to automatically lock after a >> specified time of inactivity), then pressing the "Home" button at the >> bottom tells you the time. You could also press the power button >> twice to get this information. If you then flick right anywhere on >> the screen you'll get the date announcement, e.g. "Saturday, 5th >> December". >> >> Incidentally, when the screen is in locked mode, the touch screen >> area >> for the time is a large region at the top center of the screen just >> below where time normally appears on the status bar line. (The >> touchable region for time on the status bar is much smaller). On the >> lock screen, touching the center of the status bar at the top of the >> screen announces "Screen Locked". Touch or move your finger just >> below the time area to get the date. >> >> I think this topic was either my first or second post to the viphone >> list, in response to somebody's questing about where to find battery >> status information (and about the status bar). I found out that this >> feature was added on in one of the then recent software updates (to >> OS >> 3.1, I think). The software updates have added great features, like >> the ability to set triple-click home to toggle VoiceOver on and off >> in >> your Settings menu, which gives you access to some apps that >> otherwise >> would be problematic, or the ability to do copy and paste, or access >> to the index lists to songs and address book entries. (These are all >> standard now, but weren't features in the original iPhone OS 3.0 >> release for VoiceOver users.) And for new users, the "Practice >> VoiceOver Gestures" screen that was added to the Settings > General > >> Accessibility > VoiceOver menu that was added in one of these >> software >> updates is a great way to start working with gestures. >> >> HTH >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> Pete Nalda wrote: >> >>> Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the >>> Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: >>> I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but you can get the information from the status bar. Matt Roberts On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: > Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and > wondered if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) > Pete Nalda > http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to > macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . >>> >>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>> Pete Nalda >>> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You rece
Bak on an Apple Again
I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more money. I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other solution exists to complete a particular task. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
Hi, No, you don't need to tweak a setting. You simply need to tilt the phone slightly until you hear the speaker turn on. That is when the keypad will become available. Unfortunately, the keypad is disabled when you are connected to a call on the phone's ear piece. But if you use a blue-tooth or wired headset, the same keypad will beome available. This is something the Apple folks overlooked in the Iphone's evolution. This is also something which eliminates some anonymity when keying in some confidential details. I hope this helps. Rajiv Original message >Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:50:11 - >From: "Donal Fitzpatrick" >Subject: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo >To: > >Hi, > >I am trying to use the iPhone to gain access to one of those automated >telephone systems. I'm sure you all know the sort of thing "press one to go >insane, press 2 to have more automated options, press * to hear these >options again". > >However, after dialling the initial number, I can't seem to: >1. find the keyboard; >2. as a consequence enter the numbers required to proceed. > >Has anyone any tips for dealing with this? Do I need to tweak a setting or >something? > >Thanks > >Dónal >OK the subject of this mail isn't the greatest description I've ever come up >with but the problem is this. I'm trying to ring one of our telecom >providers, and they require me > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"MacVisionaries" group. >To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: > I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer knowledge, > starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, but out of > necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the cost of the > screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating systems, you > had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a problem with a > screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't have the stupid > authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more > money. > I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive > technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access > exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other solution > exists to complete a particular task. > > Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream products where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of this. However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which is brilliant. TC James On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a > mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and > screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see > blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't > take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about > apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted people > see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm sitting > somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! > On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: > >> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer >> knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, >> but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the >> cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating >> systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a >> problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't >> have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed >> it, spend more money. >> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive >> technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access >> exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other >> solution exists to complete a particular task. >> >> Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction
Hi Nic, Thanks for the offer for help and no the difficulties didn't deter me. I don't have lots of time to spend on the mac right now but I'm watching the list and reading things so that hopefully my next podcast will go smoother than the first 3 have so far. The mac is really nice and I'm sure if I hadn't spend years on windows the transition would go smootther for me. But overall I'm liking the mac and looking forward to seeing how it can do the things I'll be wanting to do with it in the future. Rick - Original Message - From: Nicolai Svendsen To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Introduction Hi Rick, Definitely glad you're trying the Mac. From listening to the podcasts, it sounds like you had some interesting things happen during the install, for sure. I definitely hope that isn't actually putting you off attempting to fiddle around more with the system. I hope you're enjoying the experience, and good luck playing with your Mac. Feel free to mail me off-list in case there's something you'd like me to explain, to show you, or whatever. I'm all for trying to help someone make the transition easier, as I switched in August myself. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: Hi Everyone, Some of you here probably know me from the Windows side of town. For those of you that don't know me, my name is Rick Harmon and I run the Blind Geek Zone website where i provide lots of free tutorials for Windows and primarily Jaws. I Just purchased a mac mini a couple of weeks ago and decided to do a series of podcasts from the perspective of switching over to the mac from a windows point of view. I know litterally nothing about the mac side of town and have been curious for a while now about using one. So far reviews have been quite positive and I plan to continue to do more podcasts as I learn how to do more and more with the mac. Anyone interested in listening to them, the links will follow. mac podcast 1: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast1.mp3 mac podcast 2: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast2.mp3 mac podcast 3: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast3.mp3 Remember these podcasts are primarily geared to people curious about switching over to the mac from windows and are not really for experienced mac users, unless you want to have a laugh. Enjoy, Thanks for providing a great list for learning the mac. Rick Harmon --- Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: http://www.blind-geek-zone.net and my web Blog at: http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com and reply to the confirmation msg. Contact info: Email - rickhar...@sbcglobal.net & rhar...@blind-geek-zone.net Skype - rharmon928 Twitter - RicksterTheGeek and BlindGeekZone MSN - blindgeekz...@live.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
This is not correct. The keypad is not disabled when you are using the earpiece. Once you tilt the phone away from you and hear the speaker come on, simply press the keypad button. It's approximately in the center of the screen, and it's quite large and, of course, is identified by Voiceover. Once you hit that, the keypad becomes available. A headset is not necessary. Obviously, the keypad won't be available when you have the phone held to your ear, think of the issues it would cause if the screen remained active in that state. Remember we're dealing with a capacitive touch screen here, and any contact with your skin can activate it. Disabling it while it is next to your ear is really the only way the system could work. On Dec 5, 2:36 pm, Rajiv Shah wrote: > Hi, > > No, you don't need to tweak a setting. You simply need to tilt the phone > slightly until you hear the speaker turn on. That is when the keypad will > become available. > Unfortunately, the keypad is disabled when you are connected to a call on the > phone's ear piece. But if you use a blue-tooth or wired headset, the same > keypad will beome available. This is something the Apple folks overlooked in > the Iphone's evolution. This is also something which eliminates some > anonymity when keying in some confidential details. > > I hope this helps. > > Rajiv > > > > Original message > >Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:50:11 - > >From: "Donal Fitzpatrick" > >Subject: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo > >To: > > >Hi, > > >I am trying to use the iPhone to gain access to one of those automated > >telephone systems. I'm sure you all know the sort of thing "press one to go > >insane, press 2 to have more automated options, press * to hear these > >options again". > > >However, after dialling the initial number, I can't seem to: > >1. find the keyboard; > >2. as a consequence enter the numbers required to proceed. > > >Has anyone any tips for dealing with this? Do I need to tweak a setting or > >something? > > >Thanks > > >Dónal > >OK the subject of this mail isn't the greatest description I've ever come up > >with but the problem is this. I'm trying to ring one of our telecom > >providers, and they require me > > >-- > > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >"MacVisionaries" group. > >To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >For more options, visit this group > >athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
Hi, Couldn't you just use it with an earpiece and tilt it away from your head? That's my understand when I had this discussion with an iPhone user. Plus, I don't know anyone who actually holds their phone to their ear when they are wearing an earpiece. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 10:36 PM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > Hi, > > No, you don't need to tweak a setting. You simply need to tilt the phone > slightly until you hear the speaker turn on. That is when the keypad will > become available. > Unfortunately, the keypad is disabled when you are connected to a call on the > phone's ear piece. But if you use a blue-tooth or wired headset, the same > keypad will beome available. This is something the Apple folks overlooked in > the Iphone's evolution. This is also something which eliminates some > anonymity when keying in some confidential details. > > I hope this helps. > > Rajiv > > > > Original message >> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:50:11 - >> From: "Donal Fitzpatrick" >> Subject: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo >> To: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am trying to use the iPhone to gain access to one of those automated >> telephone systems. I'm sure you all know the sort of thing "press one to go >> insane, press 2 to have more automated options, press * to hear these >> options again". >> >> However, after dialling the initial number, I can't seem to: >> 1. find the keyboard; >> 2. as a consequence enter the numbers required to proceed. >> >> Has anyone any tips for dealing with this? Do I need to tweak a setting or >> something? >> >> Thanks >> >> Dónal >> OK the subject of this mail isn't the greatest description I've ever come up >> with but the problem is this. I'm trying to ring one of our telecom >> providers, and they require me >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
OT: Tivo Decode Manager & Time Capsule
Hi All, Sorry, this is a little off topic for the voice over group, but does anyone use the Tivo Decode manager with the time Capsule base station? I'm trying to figure out which IP address to use for my Tivo.I went into the Time Capsule with the airport utility and saw two different IP addresses ... 10.0.1.4 and 66.68.24.157. I don't know if that helps anyone, but can someone contact me off line about this. I would really appreciate any help I can get. Thanks, Gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
Hi, NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I love about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with you. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: > Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream products > where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of this. > However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which is > brilliant. > > TC > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > >> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a >> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and >> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see >> blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't >> take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about >> apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted >> people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm >> sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! >> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: >> >>> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer >>> knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, >>> but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the >>> cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating >>> systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a >>> problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't >>> have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed >>> it, spend more money. >>> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive >>> technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access >>> exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other >>> solution exists to complete a particular task. >>> >>> Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction
Hi, I definitely love my Mac. I had a surprisingly and incredibly easy transition, actually, but that might have been because I read through the entire VoiceOver manual and took notes. I didn't get very far with listening to any podcasts, so I really only had the manual to go on. In fact, I wanted the Mac so bad that they gave me a demo model, made it look brand new, gave me the DVDs and that was it. Of course, I faced a couple of interesting things with the authentication they had set. Short version is that the password they told me was incorrect, so I had to reinstall it all again as a newbie. Which was fine, really, because I didn't want all that junk. It went really smooth, though, and it only took an hour or so. It surprised me how much I'd actually memorized. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Thanks for the offer for help and no the difficulties didn't deter me. I > don't have lots of time to spend on the mac right now but I'm watching the > list and reading things so that hopefully my next podcast will go smoother > than the first 3 have so far. The mac is really nice and I'm sure if I > hadn't spend years on windows the transition would go smootther for me. > > But overall I'm liking the mac and looking forward to seeing how it can do > the things I'll be wanting to do with it in the future. > > Rick > > - Original Message - > From: Nicolai Svendsen > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Introduction > > Hi Rick, > > Definitely glad you're trying the Mac. From listening to the podcasts, it > sounds like you had some interesting things happen during the install, for > sure. I definitely hope that isn't actually putting you off attempting to > fiddle around more with the system. I hope you're enjoying the experience, > and good luck playing with your Mac. Feel free to mail me off-list in case > there's something you'd like me to explain, to show you, or whatever. I'm all > for trying to help someone make the transition easier, as I switched in > August myself. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Some of you here probably know me from the Windows side of town. For those >> of you that don't know me, my name is Rick Harmon and I run the Blind Geek >> Zone website where i provide lots of free tutorials for Windows and >> primarily Jaws. I Just purchased a mac mini a couple of weeks ago and >> decided to do a series of podcasts from the perspective of switching over to >> the mac from a windows point of view. I know litterally nothing about the >> mac side of town and have been curious for a while now about using one. So >> far reviews have been quite positive and I plan to continue to do more >> podcasts as I learn how to do more and more with the mac. Anyone interested >> in listening to them, the links will follow. >> >> mac podcast 1: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast1.mp3 >> >> mac podcast 2: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast2.mp3 >> >> mac podcast 3: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast3.mp3 >> >> Remember these podcasts are primarily geared to people curious about >> switching over to the mac from windows and are not really for experienced >> mac users, unless you want to have a laugh. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> >> Thanks for providing a great list for learning the mac. >> >> Rick Harmon >> >> >> --- >> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >> and my web Blog at: >> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >> >> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >> blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com >> and reply to the confirmation msg. >> >> Contact info: >> Email - rickhar...@sbcglobal.net & rhar...@blind-geek-zone.net >> Skype - rharmon928 >> Twitter - RicksterTheGeek and BlindGeekZone >> MSN - blindgeekz...@live.com >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email >> tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit
Re: [macvoiceover] OT: Tivo Decode Manager & Time Capsule
Sorry all, I had been guessing at IP addresses prior to sending my first email. After sending the email, I checked my last attempt on the Tivo decode manager, and found that my last guess was correct, in essence, answering my own question. To share, the correct IP address was 10.0.1.5, which was the next sequence for one of the IP's I had to work with. Hope this helps someone out there. Thanks, Gary On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:35 PM, Gary wrote: > Hi All, > Sorry, this is a little off topic for the voice over group, but does anyone > use the Tivo Decode manager with the time Capsule base station? I'm trying > to figure out which IP address to use for my Tivo.I went into the Time > Capsule with the airport utility and saw two different IP addresses ... > 10.0.1.4 and 66.68.24.157. I don't know if that helps anyone, but can > someone contact me off line about this. I would really appreciate any help I > can get. > > Thanks, > Gary> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-requ...@freelists.org >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at http://www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
You're right Nic. Mac is good in that regard as well as many others. I guess the same is true of Linux and Orca although a user could remove Orca and then you'd be stuck. Can the Universal Access or whatever Apple calls it be deleted just out of interest. Thanks TC James On 5 Dec 2009, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I love > about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at > something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to > download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of > NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with you. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream products >> where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of this. >> However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which is >> brilliant. >> >> TC >> James >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> >>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a >>> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and >>> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see >>> blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't >>> take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows >>> about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more >>> sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when >>> I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! >>> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: >>> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more money. I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution for access exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no other solution exists to complete a particular task. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
adding to a .m3u play list using ITunes?
Okay. Short and sweet. Is it possible to open a .m3u play list and add files to it using ITunes? IF not, is it possible to convert the m3u list in to an ITunes play list? If so, how? Thanks. Sincerely, The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray!!! Now a Mac User!!! Phone: +1 (985) 360-3614 E-mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
The keypad is not disabled, as someone pointed out. For me, it's not a big problem to put the phone on speaker to key in information. IF I need to do something confidential, I just wait till I get home. Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > No, you don't need to tweak a setting. You simply need to tilt the phone > slightly until you hear the speaker turn on. That is when the keypad will > become available. > Unfortunately, the keypad is disabled when you are connected to a call on the > phone's ear piece. But if you use a blue-tooth or wired headset, the same > keypad will beome available. This is something the Apple folks overlooked in > the Iphone's evolution. This is also something which eliminates some > anonymity when keying in some confidential details. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac Mail
Hi Mark, make sure that the account is online in mail. Under the mailbox menu, there is an online status submenu, i'd check that to see if things are set right there. On Dec 5, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Marc Grossman wrote: > I am using Mac mail to access a school e-mail account. It is an IMAP > account. I set up the account and for the first couple of weeks, it was > working fine. Now, I can only send mail but cannot receive mail. I checked > with the school help desk but they cannot locate the problem. We checked the > port. We checked the port using terminal. We checked the username and > password. We checked the Internet connection. I am still receiving mail in > Mac mail with my Gmail account. I have AT&T as my DSL connection. > > Can anybody recommend other areas for me to check? > > Thanks > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dealing with automated phone systems using iPhone and vo
Hi, You've always got the earphones with the remote. That way, people can't actually hear what you're doing. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 6, 2009, at 1:10 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: > The keypad is not disabled, as someone pointed out. For me, it's not a big > problem to put the phone on speaker to key in information. IF I need to do > something confidential, I just wait till I get home. > > Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Rajiv Shah wrote: > >> No, you don't need to tweak a setting. You simply need to tilt the phone >> slightly until you hear the speaker turn on. That is when the keypad will >> become available. >> Unfortunately, the keypad is disabled when you are connected to a call on >> the phone's ear piece. But if you use a blue-tooth or wired headset, the >> same keypad will beome available. This is something the Apple folks >> overlooked in the Iphone's evolution. This is also something which >> eliminates some anonymity when keying in some confidential details. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
Hi, I'd imagine you probably can. I'm not gonna try it, though. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:49 AM, James & Nash wrote: > You're right Nic. Mac is good in that regard as well as many others. I guess > the same is true of Linux and Orca although a user could remove Orca and then > you'd be stuck. Can the Universal Access or whatever Apple calls it be > deleted just out of interest. > > Thanks > > TC > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I >> love about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at >> something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to >> download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of >> NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream >>> products where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of >>> this. However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which >>> is brilliant. >>> >>> TC >>> James >>> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: > I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer > knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by > choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with > it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed > operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. > Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later > version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I > had to do? You guessed it, spend more money. > I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to > assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution > for access exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no > other solution exists to complete a particular task. > > Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macv
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Hi: One thing that hasn't been said yet is the fact that the Mac is so much more stable than the PC. programs don't bog down. My husband has had his MacMini running for nearly four weeks before. He only rebooted to install an update. Try doing that on a Pc without problems. :) The Mac is faster also. On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > Thanks everyone for all this great information! It looks like I may > be about to spend some money on a Mac! I may wait till after the > holidays, but I'm definitely going to make the switch. I'll still > have my current Windows-based netbook to use while I'm learning the > Mac. > > And yes, Donna, I'm the other Donna from the BookShare volunteer list. > I haven't been on the list for a while, though I still contribute > scans. It sounds like I'll be keeping my old Dell laptop set up for > OCR work, but that's no problem. I always used my older laptop for > that anyway. It was just easier than tying up my current laptop with > scans. > > Thanks again to everyone. This is really exciting! > > Donna > > On 12/5/09, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >> David, >> I hear that "Numbers" is not terribly accessible. Do you do any >> work with that? Have you any opinions? >> Kevin >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Denne [mailto:dvdde...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:27 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions >> >> >> Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve sure >> you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self to >> you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a >> macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When they >> designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility in >> mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office >> things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it but, >> I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a little >> for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I >> think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac computer >> it comes with it. >> >> On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, >>> you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when >>> powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest >>> models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or >>> iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the >>> iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to >>> navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, >>> though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played >>> with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been >>> trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not >>> have one. But they work great. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: >>> Hi all. I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal use is a different story. So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of JAWS! This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at the prospect of having a functional, accessible iPhone and the descriptions I've read that allow you to move through information via the touch screen, thus getting a real sens of page layout, has really sparked my interest. Do I understande correctly that laptops also have some kind of touch pad mouse that allows this same kind of interaction with information on the screen so that it's not always necessary to arrow up and down endlessly through massive amounts of web site jumble? I should add that though I've been using computers for about 20 years now, I am no programmer or technician. I am a f
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
I'd like to state that my Windows PC is very stable and have ran it for that long of a time without re booting. My 2.66 Ghz intel core2duo here with windows 7 is very fast maybe even faster than my brand new mac mini at 2.53 Ghz. So the assertion that PC's are inherently unstable is honestly a myth. I'm not trying to say a mac isn't better than a windows pc or the other way around. Just saying that somethings said about windows pc's are just not factual. Rick - Original Message - From: "carlene knight" To: Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:55 PM Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions Hi: One thing that hasn't been said yet is the fact that the Mac is so much more stable than the PC. programs don't bog down. My husband has had his MacMini running for nearly four weeks before. He only rebooted to install an update. Try doing that on a Pc without problems. :) The Mac is faster also. On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > Thanks everyone for all this great information! It looks like I may > be about to spend some money on a Mac! I may wait till after the > holidays, but I'm definitely going to make the switch. I'll still > have my current Windows-based netbook to use while I'm learning the > Mac. > > And yes, Donna, I'm the other Donna from the BookShare volunteer list. > I haven't been on the list for a while, though I still contribute > scans. It sounds like I'll be keeping my old Dell laptop set up for > OCR work, but that's no problem. I always used my older laptop for > that anyway. It was just easier than tying up my current laptop with > scans. > > Thanks again to everyone. This is really exciting! > > Donna > > On 12/5/09, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >> David, >> I hear that "Numbers" is not terribly accessible. Do you do any >> work with that? Have you any opinions? >> Kevin >> >> -Original Message- >> From: David Denne [mailto:dvdde...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:27 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions >> >> >> Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve >> sure >> you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self >> to >> you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a >> macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When >> they >> designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility >> in >> mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office >> things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it >> but, >> I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a >> little >> for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I >> think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac >> computer >> it comes with it. >> >> On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi Donna, >>> >>> Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, >>> you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when >>> powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest >>> models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or >>> iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the >>> iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to >>> navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, >>> though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played >>> with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been >>> trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not >>> have one. But they work great. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: >>> Hi all. I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and I have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of switching to a Mac, at least for personal use. My work duties are too tied to being able to share files with colleagues in PowerPoint, Excel and Word, and we're required to use Outlook calendar, etc., but personal use is a different story. So please tell me if I understand correctly that an off-the-shelf Mac laptop will be accessible via Voice Over for most typical functions? I need the internet, e-mail, some kind of word processor, and I'm a farily big user of Excel and am not sure what the comparable Mac program might be. I understand that there is a learning curve to make such a switch, but is it possible to do this without purchasing another type of third-part screen reading software? I am so sick of JAWS! This all started when I was looking at iPhones. I am very excited at the prospect of having
Re: Will the ipod Touch Announce the time somehow?
Thank you so much for the info. On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Esther wrote: > Hi Pete, Matt, Jacob, and Others, > > Time on the iPhone and iPod Touch is automatically announced when the > screen is in locked mode and you press the "Home" button. This means > that if your screen is locked (e.g., if you pressed the power button > at the top of your iPhone or iPod Touch to lock your screen, or if you > have your iPhone or iPod Touch set to automatically lock after a > specified time of inactivity), then pressing the "Home" button at the > bottom tells you the time. You could also press the power button > twice to get this information. If you then flick right anywhere on > the screen you'll get the date announcement, e.g. "Saturday, 5th > December". > > Incidentally, when the screen is in locked mode, the touch screen area > for the time is a large region at the top center of the screen just > below where time normally appears on the status bar line. (The > touchable region for time on the status bar is much smaller). On the > lock screen, touching the center of the status bar at the top of the > screen announces "Screen Locked". Touch or move your finger just > below the time area to get the date. > > I think this topic was either my first or second post to the viphone > list, in response to somebody's questing about where to find battery > status information (and about the status bar). I found out that this > feature was added on in one of the then recent software updates (to OS > 3.1, I think). The software updates have added great features, like > the ability to set triple-click home to toggle VoiceOver on and off in > your Settings menu, which gives you access to some apps that otherwise > would be problematic, or the ability to do copy and paste, or access > to the index lists to songs and address book entries. (These are all > standard now, but weren't features in the original iPhone OS 3.0 > release for VoiceOver users.) And for new users, the "Practice > VoiceOver Gestures" screen that was added to the Settings > General > > Accessibility > VoiceOver menu that was added in one of these software > updates is a great way to start working with gestures. > > HTH > > Cheers, > > Esther > > Pete Nalda wrote: > >> Ok. I'll just have to learn how to make it do that either in the >> Apple store or if I buy one. Thanks >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 7:39 AM, Matt Roberts wrote: >> >>> I don't think the Touch will announce the time automatically, but >>> you can get the information from the status bar. >>> >>> Matt Roberts >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:35 AM, Pete Nalda wrote: >>> Heard someone having VO anounce the time on the iphone today and wondered if the ipod touch could do the same? If so nice feature. Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en . >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >>> . >>> >>> >> >> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >> Pete Nalda >> http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en >> . >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) Pete Nalda http://www.myspace.com/musikonalda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. T
Re: Introduction
Rick, as a very recent switcher myself, I know what you are dealing with in learning to use the Mac. Aside from learning a whole new set of commands, there are also some concepts that need to click in your head to successfully use the Mac. The more time you spend with it, the faster things will click of course. I think for myself, I started with the E-mail program. Before I bought my Mac, I did a lot of research and took notes so that I could get up and running as quickly as possible. I hated the keyboard that came with my iMac, so I decided to use my old faithful Logitech keyboard from the Windows side and I am very glad I did that. I love being able to use my number pad to do keyboard commands with the Mac. It makes things so much easier. I could never have done it without this list and Mike's series of podcasts on the Mac. The strangest concepts coming from the Windows side were interacting and the different way the cursor moves on the Mac. It took me a long time to get straight in my head now when you move your left arrow, it jumps you to the left of the character and when you move the right arrow, it puts you to the right of the character. Another concept that was sort of weird was ejecting a disk image when you install a program with command E. These were things we didn't have to do on the Windows side, but once you wrap your mind around these concepts, you'll be off and running with the Mac. Good luck, and keep us posted on your progress.. On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > Hi Nic, > > Thanks for the offer for help and no the difficulties didn't deter me. I > don't have lots of time to spend on the mac right now but I'm watching the > list and reading things so that hopefully my next podcast will go smoother > than the first 3 have so far. The mac is really nice and I'm sure if I > hadn't spend years on windows the transition would go smootther for me. > > But overall I'm liking the mac and looking forward to seeing how it can do > the things I'll be wanting to do with it in the future. > > Rick > > - Original Message - > From: Nicolai Svendsen > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 3:12 PM > Subject: Re: Introduction > > Hi Rick, > > Definitely glad you're trying the Mac. From listening to the podcasts, it > sounds like you had some interesting things happen during the install, for > sure. I definitely hope that isn't actually putting you off attempting to > fiddle around more with the system. I hope you're enjoying the experience, > and good luck playing with your Mac. Feel free to mail me off-list in case > there's something you'd like me to explain, to show you, or whatever. I'm all > for trying to help someone make the transition easier, as I switched in > August myself. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Some of you here probably know me from the Windows side of town. For those >> of you that don't know me, my name is Rick Harmon and I run the Blind Geek >> Zone website where i provide lots of free tutorials for Windows and >> primarily Jaws. I Just purchased a mac mini a couple of weeks ago and >> decided to do a series of podcasts from the perspective of switching over to >> the mac from a windows point of view. I know litterally nothing about the >> mac side of town and have been curious for a while now about using one. So >> far reviews have been quite positive and I plan to continue to do more >> podcasts as I learn how to do more and more with the mac. Anyone interested >> in listening to them, the links will follow. >> >> mac podcast 1: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast1.mp3 >> >> mac podcast 2: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast2.mp3 >> >> mac podcast 3: >> >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/audio/macpodcast3.mp3 >> >> Remember these podcasts are primarily geared to people curious about >> switching over to the mac from windows and are not really for experienced >> mac users, unless you want to have a laugh. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> >> Thanks for providing a great list for learning the mac. >> >> Rick Harmon >> >> >> --- >> Visit my webpage and podcast feed at: >> http://www.blind-geek-zone.net >> and my web Blog at: >> http://blind-geek-zone.blogspot.com/ >> >> Join the BGZ mailing list by sending a blank email message to: >> blindgeekzone-subscr...@yahoogroups.com >> and reply to the confirmation msg. >> >> Contact info: >> Email - rickhar...@sbcglobal.net & rhar...@blind-geek-zone.net >> Skype - rharmon928 >> Twitter - RicksterTheGeek and BlindGeekZone >> MSN - blindgeekz...@live.com >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" g
Re: Whinings about Amadeus Pro:-)
Krister, I'm trying to learn Amadeus Pro myself. I'm wondering if we could run that PDF manual through AbyyFine to get a better rendering? It does a great job with PDF documents. I'm also looking for any podcasts that might be out there on Amadeus, but can only find one concerning the batch converter. Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress. On Dec 5, 2009, at 6:28 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Hi there. > I was trying to edit a podcast that is about to go out soon when i > encountered a problem in Amadeus Pro. First, before i ask my questions, i > have to say that this rant is due to the fact that i think i don't understand > the concepts of Amadeus and how it works as well as i would like to. > My problem was that i couldn't cut a selection i had done. I placed a mark at > the play head and then extended the selection from the play head position to > the previous marker and then i tried to cut the selection, this didn't work > for some odd reason and i don't know why. The question i ask myself and any > gurus of Amadeus pro is why is the insertion point and the play head two > separate entities? What do you actually gain by this approach? For me it only > gets more confusing and more time consuming to edit a sound this way. Since i > don't understand the logic behind this, the editing gets random. Sometimes > placing markers work, sometimes not, sometimes selecting things work and > applying operations to a selection works as expected and other times the > whole thing gets screwed up and i can't seem to see a rational explanation as > to why and there's nothing that i can find in the manual about this so any > help would be very much appreciated. > My second question is this: Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts available > in either text or html with the table correctly rendered? As it is in the > manual now, and if it is shown in Preview, i see the shortcut keys in one > list and the asociated functions, i.e what the keys do in a separate list, > making it useless in practise since you see every single shortcut in a neat > little row and then in a totally separate list you see the actions, I would > have wanted keys and actions next to eachother. If there's no text or html > file with keyboard shortcuts and actions rendered correctly, is there a way > for Preview or Skim to show me the shortcut list like that? > Thanks for any help. > /Krister > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Bak on an Apple Again
Hi In theory you could remove Voiceover manually, but there's no official way to do it and the actual core accessibility infrastructure is part of the OS X core system libraries. It is tied into the GUI at a very low level. As far as Linux and Orca goes, that is more complicated than it first appears. Given that Orca only works with GNOME, and that only some Linux distributions include it by default, you have no guarantee that it will be available on someone else's system if you need it. Further, what if they're using KDE or LXDE or another desktop environment where Orca is not available and wouldn't work even if it were installed? Or a Linux netbook that comes with a custom GUI of its own? Not all Linux systems are GNOME-based or even offer it. As far as having ready access to the accessibility tools, I'd rate Mac first, Windows second since you can carry either NVDA or System Access with you, and Linux third since there are just too many variables involved and you can't simply carry Orca with you. On Dec 5, 4:49 pm, "James & Nash" wrote: > You're right Nic. Mac is good in that regard as well as many others. I guess > the same is true of Linux and Orca although a user could remove Orca and then > you'd be stuck. Can the Universal Access or whatever Apple calls it be > deleted just out of interest. > > Thanks > > TC > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I > > love about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at > > something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to > > download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of > > NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with > > you. > > > Regards, > > Nic > > Skype: Kvalme > > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > > AIM: cincinster > > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > > Facebook Profile > > My Twitter > > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: > > >> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream > >> products where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples > >> of this. However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA > >> which is brilliant. > > >> TC > >> James > >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: > > >>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a > >>> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and > >>> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already > >>> see blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people > >>> don't take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone > >>> knows about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the > >>> more sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just > >>> love when I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me > >>> how I use it! > >>> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: > > I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer > knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by > choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and > with it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you > changed operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen > reader. Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a > later version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess > what I had to do? You guessed it, spend more money. > I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to > assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution > for access exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if > no other solution exists to complete a particular task. > > Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >>> -- > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email t
Re: Whinings about Amadeus Pro:-)
Hi there. The same is happening for me. When it happens, you can try to move the mouse to the scrollarea by pressing Vo command f5, and then dubble click by pressing Vo shift spacebar. This fix the issue for me. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Dec 5, 2009 kl. 12:28 PM skrev Krister Ekstrom: > Hi there. > I was trying to edit a podcast that is about to go out soon when i > encountered a problem in Amadeus Pro. First, before i ask my questions, i > have to say that this rant is due to the fact that i think i don't understand > the concepts of Amadeus and how it works as well as i would like to. > My problem was that i couldn't cut a selection i had done. I placed a mark at > the play head and then extended the selection from the play head position to > the previous marker and then i tried to cut the selection, this didn't work > for some odd reason and i don't know why. The question i ask myself and any > gurus of Amadeus pro is why is the insertion point and the play head two > separate entities? What do you actually gain by this approach? For me it only > gets more confusing and more time consuming to edit a sound this way. Since i > don't understand the logic behind this, the editing gets random. Sometimes > placing markers work, sometimes not, sometimes selecting things work and > applying operations to a selection works as expected and other times the > whole thing gets screwed up and i can't seem to see a rational explanation as > to why and there's nothing that i can find in the manual about this so any > help would be very much appreciated. > My second question is this: Is there a list of keyboard shortcuts available > in either text or html with the table correctly rendered? As it is in the > manual now, and if it is shown in Preview, i see the shortcut keys in one > list and the asociated functions, i.e what the keys do in a separate list, > making it useless in practise since you see every single shortcut in a neat > little row and then in a totally separate list you see the actions, I would > have wanted keys and actions next to eachother. If there's no text or html > file with keyboard shortcuts and actions rendered correctly, is there a way > for Preview or Skim to show me the shortcut list like that? > Thanks for any help. > /Krister > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Introduction and Newby Questions
Perhaps I was hasty as I have never played with Windows 7. It also depends on what you are doing with your machine, I suppose. My husband is a heavy media user watching movies, extracting files from various sources, watching videos and listening to podcast, sometimes doing 2 or 3 of the afore mentioned tasks at the same time while viewing his email messages every so often. He's got a MacMini and seldom sees glitches or slowdowns. It's hard for me to believe that you could run a Windows PC that long without rebooting doing heavy tasks such as this, at least with XP. I know Windows 7 is a much better operating system than Xp though.. O n Dec 5, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Rick Harmon wrote: > I'd like to state that my Windows PC is very stable and have ran it for that > long of a time without re booting. My 2.66 Ghz intel core2duo here with > windows 7 is very fast maybe even faster than my brand new mac mini at 2.53 > Ghz. > > So the assertion that PC's are inherently unstable is honestly a myth. > > I'm not trying to say a mac isn't better than a windows pc or the other way > around. Just saying that somethings said about windows pc's are just not > factual. > > Rick > > - Original Message - > From: "carlene knight" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:55 PM > Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions > > > Hi: > One thing that hasn't been said yet is the fact that the Mac is so much more > stable than the PC. programs don't bog down. My husband has had his > MacMini running for nearly four weeks before. He only rebooted to install > an update. Try doing that on a Pc without problems. :) The Mac is faster > also. > On Dec 5, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > >> Thanks everyone for all this great information! It looks like I may >> be about to spend some money on a Mac! I may wait till after the >> holidays, but I'm definitely going to make the switch. I'll still >> have my current Windows-based netbook to use while I'm learning the >> Mac. >> >> And yes, Donna, I'm the other Donna from the BookShare volunteer list. >> I haven't been on the list for a while, though I still contribute >> scans. It sounds like I'll be keeping my old Dell laptop set up for >> OCR work, but that's no problem. I always used my older laptop for >> that anyway. It was just easier than tying up my current laptop with >> scans. >> >> Thanks again to everyone. This is really exciting! >> >> Donna >> >> On 12/5/09, Kevin Gibbs wrote: >>> David, >>> I hear that "Numbers" is not terribly accessible. Do you do any >>> work with that? Have you any opinions? >>> Kevin >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: David Denne [mailto:dvdde...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:27 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Introduction and Newby Questions >>> >>> >>> Ok I just need to comment on a few things. As far as a learning curve >>> sure >>> you do have to learn a new screen reader but this one introduces its self >>> to >>> you via a lovely quick start guide that is very interactive. Also a >>> macintosh computer can be used in a business or work environment. When >>> they >>> designed the macintosh operating system they wanted to keep compatibility >>> in >>> mind also so that macs and pcs can work together. For microsoft office >>> things you could use a program called open office. i have never used it >>> but, >>> I do hear grate reports of how accessible it is. If you wanna pay a >>> little >>> for iWork09 which is apples version of microsoft office then you can. I >>> think as of writing this message its $79.99 but when you buy a mac >>> computer >>> it comes with it. >>> >>> On 12/5/09, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi Donna, Yes, the Macintosh comes with accessibility out of the box. In fact, you'll even get a nice message telling you how to turn it on when powering it on. If you buy a Macbook or a Macbook Pro, the newest models will have the trackpad which will work like the iPhone's or iPod Touch touch screen. Personally, I find it easier to use the iPhone or iPod touch screen to navigate. I find it pretty hard to navigate without having to interact with a gesture to see a table, though you can probably touch an item in the table. I never played with the trackpad a lot, though I do use it on occasion. I've been trying out iPhones for a little while, though I unfortunately do not have one. But they work great. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:23 AM, Donna Smith wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long-time, frustrated Windows/Microsoft Office/JAWS user, and > I have recently become very intrigued with the possibility of > switching to a Mac, at least for per
How to share voiceOver labels?
Hello, we can label a control using VO+/ keystroke but Can we share these labels with other users? Using this method we can improve accessibility of some applications. Regards Jonathan Chacón -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
about signatures in mail
Hello, I've got 4 mail accounts in Mail. Y wrote 3 signatures in mail but I can't use them in my mail accounts but I have to drag and drop the signatures to the mail accounts in the configuration window of Mail. How can I do this using an accessible procedure? thanks and regards Jonathan Chacón -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
