You're right Nic. Mac is good in that regard as well as many others. I guess the same is true of Linux and Orca although a user could remove Orca and then you'd be stuck. Can the Universal Access or whatever Apple calls it be deleted just out of interest.
Thanks TC James On 5 Dec 2009, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I love > about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at > something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to > download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of > NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with you. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: > >> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream products >> where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of this. >> However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which is >> brilliant. >> >> TC >> James >> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >> >>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a >>> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and >>> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see >>> blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't >>> take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows >>> about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more >>> sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when >>> I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it! >>> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: >>> >>>> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer >>>> knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by >>>> choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with >>>> it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed >>>> operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. >>>> Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later >>>> version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had >>>> to do? You guessed it, spend more money. >>>> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to >>>> assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution >>>> for access exists, we should use that. Only go to the AT companies if no >>>> other solution exists to complete a particular task. >>>> >>>> Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
