Hi,

NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I love 
about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at something 
on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to download it, or 
run the portable version. I guess the portable version of NVDA eliminates most 
of that, but you're still required to carry it with you.

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Nic
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On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote:

> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream products 
> where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples  of this. 
> However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which is 
> brilliant. 
> 
> TC
> James 
> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
> 
>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a 
>> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and 
>> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already see 
>> blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people don't 
>> take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone knows about 
>> apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more sighted 
>> people see us using regular technology the better. I just love when I'm 
>> sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I use it!
>> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago.  I have extensive computer 
>>> knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by choice, 
>>> but out of necessity.  The switch to Windows took place, and with it the 
>>> cost of the screen readers came as well.  Every time you changed operating 
>>> systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader.  Once I had a 
>>> problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later version.  I didn't 
>>> have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I had to do? You guessed 
>>> it, spend more money.
>>> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to assistive 
>>> technology manufacturers.  I believe if a mainstream solution for access 
>>> exists, we should use that.  Only go to the AT companies if no other 
>>> solution exists to complete a particular task.
>>> 
>>> Matt Roberts n9gmr...@gmail.com
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