Hi, I'd imagine you probably can. I'm not gonna try it, though.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:49 AM, James & Nash wrote: > You're right Nic. Mac is good in that regard as well as many others. I guess > the same is true of Linux and Orca although a user could remove Orca and then > you'd be stuck. Can the Universal Access or whatever Apple calls it be > deleted just out of interest. > > Thanks > > TC > James > On 5 Dec 2009, at 23:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> NVDA is great, though it does not come installed by default. The thing I >> love about the Mac is that, if a sighted user requires you take a look at >> something on their Mac, you can just turn VoiceOver on without having to >> download it, or run the portable version. I guess the portable version of >> NVDA eliminates most of that, but you're still required to carry it with you. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:09 PM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> Welcome to the list. I agree with your point about using mainstream >>> products where appropriate. Mac and Linux AT are two very good examples of >>> this. However, Windows is now also coming to the same place with NVDA which >>> is brilliant. >>> >>> TC >>> James >>> On 5 Dec 2009, at 21:55, Jessi and Goldina wrote: >>> >>>> enjoy your mac!! you'll love it!! and I completely agree. if there's a >>>> mainstream solution, people should use that. these note takers and >>>> screenreaders are okay if there's no other solution, but people already >>>> see blind people as bad different as it is and it seems to me like people >>>> don't take the time to understand what they don't know about. everyone >>>> knows about apple computers and computers in general, and I think the more >>>> sighted people see us using regular technology the better. I just love >>>> when I'm sitting somewhere in public with my mac and people ask me how I >>>> use it! >>>> On 2009-12-05, at 1:06 PM, Matt Roberts wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just got my Mac a couple of days ago. I have extensive computer >>>>> knowledge, starting on the old Apple II, and moved to MSDOS, not by >>>>> choice, but out of necessity. The switch to Windows took place, and with >>>>> it the cost of the screen readers came as well. Every time you changed >>>>> operating systems, you had to buy a new version of the screen reader. >>>>> Once I had a problem with a screen reader, and had to install a later >>>>> version. I didn't have the stupid authorization disk, so guess what I >>>>> had to do? You guessed it, spend more money. >>>>> I'm learning the Mac because I don't choose to give more money to >>>>> assistive technology manufacturers. I believe if a mainstream solution >>>>> for access exists, we should use that. 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