Hi Esther,

An excellent summary (as always).  One thing I'd add though is that the way
LaTeX handles things like figures and tables can be an issue for those who
are both new to this marvellous typesetting system, and also those of us who
have been using it for eons.

LaTeX uses a sophisticated algorithm to place tables and figures in your
document.  The generic term that is used is "float".  The algorithm
estimates space remaining on the page, and determines where the thing will
fit.  My advice is that if your book, paper, article (etc) requires the use
of such things, always get someone sighted to look at the end product as one
can never be entirely certain where the tables or figures  will end up in
the finished document.

For anyone who might find them useful, I include some links here that I have
found over the years.  I have many more, but these will do to get people
started.

1.  http://www.andy-roberts.net/misc/latex/index.html  (a nice tutorial)
2.  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Title_Creation  (a wiki-book on the
topic of LaTeX)
3.
www.onlinefreeebooks.net/...ebooks.../a-beginners-guide-to-latex-pdf.html
(A free e-book on LaTeX)

Hope this helps,

Dónal

. -----Original Message-----
From: Esther [mailto:mori...@mac.com] 
Sent: 04 December 2009 18:34
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LaTEX

Hi Ryan,

Ryan Mann wrote:

> I don't understand.  Why can't you just type something like 4x=20 into 
> a word document?  That is, unless this isn't what you mean by an 
> equation.
>

The answer is that most professional mathematicians, physicists, or (in some
disciplines) engineers have to use equations that have special symbols for
integral signs, limits, series expansions, Greek letters, etc. and that
these can be embedded several levels deep in  
both numerator and denominator.   These expressions are a nightmare to  
enter properly into a word document with correct placement.

The original TeX programming language was developed by the computer
scientist, Donald Knuth, as a way of getting around the extremely high price
of publishing mathematical textbooks due to its special type- setting needs
and also to get around the often poor final production results.  In
developing TeX Knuth studied typeface design and devised algorithms for
optimal placement, spacing, and justification of text for any given font
type.

In most word-processing packages (including Word documents), not only is it
nearly impossible to correctly generate some complex equations, but once you
have managed to do so the results are even harder to correctly insert within
the document.  Usually, sighted users have to try, look at the incorrect
results, and then figure out some way to fudge up the correct placement and
spacing.  TeX will correctly  
compute, place, and even break up multi-line equations automatically.   
It will also, incidentally, handle optimal spacing, alignment, etc.  
for all regular (i.e., not technical) documents, so you can publish entire
books originally produced in TeX. In the physical sciences, many
professional journals use TeX as the default submission format, since it is
freely available and works cross-platform.

At what was originally the Los Alamos preprint site (and what has now become
ArXiv, with several sites across the world) for the electronic distribution
of scientific work by physicists, mathematicians, computer scientists, and
others, well over 99 per cent of the  
submissions are in TeX format -- even for papers without equations.   
The fact  that TeX does an excellent job in outputting all international
languages including those that do not use alphabetic characters also adds to
its popularity.

The main drawback is that it has a steep initial learning curve, and is
probably overkill for what most people need to do in word processing.
However, it is extremely convenient to be able to change the entire layout
of your paper simply by changing a one-word argument for the style file you
are using. (And by change, I mean formatting far beyond what Word supports
--- not just line spacing and fonts, but how sections and sub-sections are
numbered and formatted, their indentations conventions, etc.  Or in
bibliography mode, whether the entries are listed in the order they are
cited or alphabetically, and with which citation style.)

HTH.  Dónal or Nicolai might want to add comments.

Cheers,

Esther



> On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>
>> No bother Nick.  Have to say that I wholeheartedly approve of that 
>> requirement...  If you've never tried to insert equations into a word 
>> doc, be very grateful.  That kind of experience should be reserved 
>> for the truly masochistic. *smile*
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Donal
>> On 4 Dec 2009, at 12:11, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Donal,
>>>
>>> I definitely will. Thanks a lot for the tips, and great someone 
>>> knows about this. It's a requirement in my country for mathematical 
>>> studies. I'll definitely throw some questions your way.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>    Yep I find TeXshop fine.  I use it to prepare academic papers and 
>>>> lectures.  Another useful utility by the way is the BibDesc one.  
>>>> It's a very very useful tool for organising bibliographies.
>>>>
>>>> As you're learning LaTeX, feel free to contact me off list if any 
>>>> questions arise.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Donal
>>>> On 4 Dec 2009, at 12:02, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. Yeah, I heard of TeXShop. I've always spelt it LaTEX, with L 
>>>>> capitalized, including TEX but not the a. It didn't seem to matter 
>>>>> much how I w typed it, though. But thanks for the recommendation. 
>>>>> I assume TeXShop is accessible, then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nic
>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Donal Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nick,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use TeXShop.  By the way, know what you mean about the dangers 
>>>>>> of googling this...  To improve your hits, spell it "L Aa T e X"  
>>>>>> (that is, the L, T and X capitalised).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Donal
>>>>>> On 4 Dec 2009, at 11:54, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm currently learning LaTEX, and I've been looking for a 
>>>>>>> Macintosh interpreter. Can anyone help with this? Google 
>>>>>>> interestingly leads me to Latex rubber and fetish sites. It's 
>>>>>>> kind of creepy. I figured I'd just stop Googling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nic
>>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>>>>> Facebook Profile
>>>>>>> My Twitter
>>>>>>>
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