Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 02:28 AM, Sergio Meneses wrote:
> Great news! thanks for sharing it

It was an ad for our competitor, but I think we could make such an ad
ourselves and see if we can get it published.  We could draft it on the
wiki, maybe, or on an etherpad-like tool.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> It seems that sponsored ads are all the rage.  Two companies put
> together this ad and got InfoWorld to publish it:
>
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/d/wp/the-top-5-reasons-you-must-migrate-away-windows-xp-today-230527
>
> Could comms put something similar together on hopping off the treadmill
> completely and moving to Lubuntu/Ubuntu?  There would be two tasks:
> getting the thing written and getting it published, though
> self-publishing might make the latter easier.
>
> Regards,
> /Lars



Hi,

The story has been available since April, 2013:
https://launchpad.net/startubuntu

Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to publish
a story about StartUbuntu

http://www.infoworld.com/

http://www.itworld.com/

http://www.networkworld.com/

I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
Some didn't even reply back.

Thanks!

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 12:18 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
[snip]
> Hi,
> 
> The story has been available since April, 2013:
> https://launchpad.net/startubuntu
> 
> Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to publish
> a story about StartUbuntu
> 
> http://www.infoworld.com/
> 
> http://www.itworld.com/
> 
> http://www.networkworld.com/
> 
> I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
> Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
> Some didn't even reply back.
> 
> Thanks!

Hi,

Which have promised to write and which ones have not even replied?

/Lars


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys!
>
> I have created new designs and put the others together in the same wiki to
> get a good view of the changes, you can find there the current design as
> well.
>
> remember we are working on the re-design, the content is no complete we
> might add more links to provide more information to our visitors
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/Lubuntu-Wiki/headerGeneral
>
> ok guys! please send your ideas and thoughts as always, and remember this
> header will be in all our wikis :)
>
>
> Regards and big hugs
>

Hi,

I see lots of progress, well done :)

My Opinion:

+1 for Design #3 - Xubuntu Style. Why? simply because it will allow you to
add max 12 Links (4 at each square and you can add one more square if
needed) on these 3 squares without taking so much space.

And, if you could have a mixture design of: #1 and #2, that could be great
too. Small icons with different background colour will make the small icons
more visible :)

And, yes, this is not a final draft so totally understand that.

Great job, keep it up and keep them coming ;)

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 12:20 PM, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 12:18 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> [snip]
>> Hi,
>>
>> The story has been available since April, 2013:
>> https://launchpad.net/startubuntu
>>
>> Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to publish
>> a story about StartUbuntu
>>
>> http://www.infoworld.com/
>>
>> http://www.itworld.com/
>>
>> http://www.networkworld.com/
>>
>> I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
>> Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
>> Some didn't even reply back.
>>
>> Thanks!
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Which have promised to write and which ones have not even replied?
> 
> /Lars

BTW since some of these contacts might be via less than public e-mail
addresses, we need a way to use them without publishing them on a public
list.

Regards,
/Lars


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[Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint windows-xp-users] Simplify the process of migration from Windows XP to Lubuntu

[amjjawad]

Blueprint changed by amjjawad:

Whiteboard changed:
  [vanyok] Good initiative and golden words, AJ! Who is our video expert? 
Leszek? Maybe we can ask him to prepare some introduction videos or there might 
be other volunteers to do that.
  YouTube is owned by Monster Corporation aka Corporation of Goodness... but 
still it's a leader in video hosting area. So... fine.
  
  [JoshwaJustify] That is a very good idea, we could maybe do a video
  showing the comparisons between there current system of xp and how
  lubuntu provides an alternative, it would have to be short videos such
  as 3-5 minutes long to make the videos shareable but its not a bad idea.
  
  [dale-visser] I imagine most newcomers from XP will use the installer
  option to preserve Windows and make their system dual boot. Perhaps
  there should be some easily discoverable software in Lubuntu that makes
  it easy to access and even move their Windows XP user data over to the
  Lubuntu partition? In the videos area, I can imagine a page that has
  videos labelled for Microsoft Office users...how to get up and running
  witht the office applications in Lubuntu, and how to use Software Center
  to download and install a Powerpoint or Access alternative, etc.
  
  [SergioMeneses] [Re: JoshwaJustify] we already have a youtube channel
  but it has few videos, this would be an amazing idea to bring it back.
  +1
  
  [SergioMeneses] We might create a wiki page with the process as well, I
  think it will be easier to translate and we might put this new link on
  our website near to our videos or at the description.
+ 
+ [amjjawad] Then what are we waiting for? ;)

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

The Waiting Period is over now :)


On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Dear Communications Team and Brainstorming Team,
>
> May I have you attention, please?
>

For 5 days, no one has replied except Sergio? Hmm, this is not good :)


>
> First of all, for those who are now aware of this, Lubuntu Team or at
> least those who are still active and around, they don't have access on the
> Website of Lubuntu and can't update it often. This is a long story that I
> am avoiding for now but at the same time, I feel that I must jump in and do
> something about this due to the huge importance of Lubuntu 14.04 for us as
> a community and for our users and because of all that, I can't remain
> silent about this anymore.
>
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
>
> I know some of you may not be so patient and wait for a response from
> anyone. Therefore, this email :)
>
> 1- I am working side by side with some good members of Lubuntu Community
> to come up with a solution to this issue once and for all. Patience is
> required, my good friends :)
>
> 2- I have Plan B in mind in case our mission will fail and we won't be
> able to solve the website issue so rest assure that we will not give up so
> easily ;)
>
> 3- For the last 2 years of Lubuntu Community History, there were VERY few
> who were super active and heavily involved, doing the dirty job and jump in
> whenever needed. THIS SHOULD BE HISTORY NOW. I ask each and everyone to be
> responsible and HELP and WORK as a team. You are not required to do much,
> just do something because you are part of this team. I am not going to ask
> you what you need to do, that should come from you ;)
>
> 4- "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not let things
> happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone else is
> looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it = Team Work.
>
>
>
> I have updated the above Blueprint with the latest progress and if there
> is anything new, I will update it right away.
>
> As for Plan B, you need to be patient :) I don't want to discuss that
> while there is still some hope :)
>
> I expect your support and help in this issue, simply because, you belong
> to the best community in the world and part of the best system in the world
> and it is a pleasure to be part of this community :)
>
> Thank you!
>

https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html

And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at least
'claims' that he/she is in charge :)

Before I carry on with the idea I had in mind, I must be extra honest with
all of you.

Lubuntu Team has a big issue which is LACK of communications. I have failed
to find a logical explanation to this. I don't want to make it even worse
but I personally do NOT like the way this team is heading. Yes, we are all
volunteers and yes, real life comes first and all that is totally
understood but what happened to the word: 'commitment' ??? even if this is
a volunteer job or task, people who are in charge/action must communicate
and everyone who thinks he is involved must communicate. Am I missing
something here? is there any other communication channel that I am not
aware of?

*Okay, the plan is:*

Since we haven't received any reply, I do suggest to focus our attention
on: [http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com] instead of the website that WE, as
Lubuntu Team, has NO control over.

This suggestion/idea is based on many reasons:

1- Rafael is the administrator of Lubuntu Blog and he is around and reply
his emails and jump in to help and roll up his sleeves every time we need
his help. He is a real active member who deserves our full respect.

2- Lubuntu Blog can be updated, corrected, publish, etc ... it is an active
channel that WE do have control over.

3- Dealing with Lubuntu Blog is piece of cake. You can always update,
correct mistakes, etc. No big deal.

4- Rafael, AFAIK, doesn't mind to give 'Author' Access to members who are
interested to publish some news and he can remain the admin of the site for
technical issues, etc.

5- Many Websites are based on 'Blog' concept: Peppermint and Ubuntu GNOME
are both based on WordPress: http://ubuntugnome.org/ and
http://peppermintos.com/


So, what do you think?

And, as you may know, it is very easy to focus and drag everyone's
attention to the blog ;)
On Wiki Area and Social Media (Facebook, Google+ and Twitter), we can make
an announcement that  Lubuntu Blog is our main channel and let the website
idle as it is.

Few days ago, I changed the access for Mario from Facebook Page Manager to:
Mario Behling
Insights 
Analyst
Mario can view insights.

He did not send me yet asking why is that which proves he is either not
interested, or very busy, or inactive and if you ask me, the
managers/admins roles must be given to active people :)

Don't get me wrong, my good frie

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 12:55 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
[snip]
> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
> 
> And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at least
> 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)
[snip]

I wrote to the mb@ address back on the 6th of November regarding fixing
some small problems with the site's rendering.  To my knowledge, I have
not gotten back any kind of response whatsoever.  According to whois, he
is still the overall contact for the site but most sites have more than
one with write access.

There is no contact info give, just a redirect to the wiki.  Though we
have a lot on the table, this should to be escalated.  There need to be
at least two with write access to the web site so that should something
happen to one, like we have now, the other can still carry on.

Regards,
/Lars

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu Community] Cleaning up Routine & Activities

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
>>
>>  On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>  Kindly have a read at:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>>
>>>  I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit
>>> more in details than here:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community
>>>
>>>  Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately about
>>> the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some
>>> people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up
>>> suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to
>>> be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is
>>> contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the
>>> overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in
>>> regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply
>>> because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots
>>> of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK.
>>>
>>>  Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that
>>> previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not
>>> only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over
>>> the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to
>>> help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case
>>> in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply
>>> leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a
>>> few people job rather than a Community and Team work.
>>>
>>>  Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not
>>> let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone
>>> else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it."
>>>
>>>Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing
>>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu
>>> will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down!
>>>
>>>  You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself and
>>> some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with Lubuntu
>>> which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and most of
>>> the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a special
>>> magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead machine but
>>> can take you far away and open your mind and change your life.
>>>
>>>  Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very
>>> good time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with
>>> testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :)
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>>>
>>>  Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon!
>>>  Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and
>>> who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity
>>>
>>>  Thank you!
>>>
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>>> Best Regards,
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway >> > wrote:
>>> Ali:
>>>
>>> As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and
>>> only contribute occasionally.
>>>
>>> If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more
>>> time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list.
>>>
>>> - Aere
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Aere
>>>
>>>  Hi Aere,
>>
>> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in easy,
>> simple and clear way :)
>>
>> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to
>> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :)  I am sure I
>> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that
>> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community
>> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be
>> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :)
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community
>>
>> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as
>> long as we are following these guidelines:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything
>> is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :)
>>
>> 3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this
>> time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate
>> everything to avoi

[Lubuntu-comms] Leading Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and Others

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

Long story short, due to the lack of communications between Lubuntu Team
Members/Community and due to unsolved issues that it seems Myself and ONLY
few are running after to solve and due to the fact that there are ONLY VERY
few active members who are supporting and helping as much as they can, it
seems my thoughts, activities and approach with Lubuntu is going to a dead
end.

I have done my very best. I got burned out many many times. I have suffered
a lot and I have given more than what I'm supposed to give, etc. ALL that
because I love Lubuntu. But, this is getting no where and I am seriously,
very tired.

If there is someone who would like to take over the Brainstorming Area and
take over the Ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team and all the other
stuff that I am in charged of: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team

Please, let me know :)

I will be around whenever you need me as I shall never turn my back to
anyone in need of my help.

Good Luck and All the best!

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> On 11/11/2013 12:55 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> [snip]
> > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
> >
> > And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at
> least
> > 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)
> [snip]
>
> I wrote to the mb@ address back on the 6th of November regarding fixing
> some small problems with the site's rendering.  To my knowledge, I have
> not gotten back any kind of response whatsoever.  According to whois, he
> is still the overall contact for the site but most sites have more than
> one with write access.
>
> There is no contact info give, just a redirect to the wiki.  Though we
> have a lot on the table, this should to be escalated.  There need to be
> at least two with write access to the web site so that should something
> happen to one, like we have now, the other can still carry on.
>
> Regards,
> /Lars
>

The very first thing I have given access to when I joined Peppermint was
the website: http://peppermintos.com/ + all the social media channels. (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/#Peppermint).

And, same goes with Ubuntu GNOME: http://ubuntugnome.org/

For +2 years with Lubuntu, the team has failed to gain access to its own
website.

I don't know, I am running out of thoughts :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
[snip]
> The very first thing I have given access to when I joined Peppermint was
> the website: http://peppermintos.com/ + all the social media channels. (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/#Peppermint).
> 
> And, same goes with Ubuntu GNOME: http://ubuntugnome.org/

Yes, it is no surprise that other projects have it better in this regard.

> For +2 years with Lubuntu, the team has failed to gain access to its own
> website.
> 
> I don't know, I am running out of thoughts :)

If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe it is
necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out community
issues.  This does seem like a dispute of sorts.  However, before that,
I see that Leszek Lesner, Stefano Piccin, Naveen Agarwal, and Julien
Lavergne are listed as developers. [1]  Can any shed light on the access
question?

Regards,
/Lars

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre



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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> On 11/11/2013 01:20 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> [snip]
> > The very first thing I have given access to when I joined Peppermint was
> > the website: http://peppermintos.com/ + all the social media channels. (
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/#Peppermint).
> >
> > And, same goes with Ubuntu GNOME: http://ubuntugnome.org/
>
> Yes, it is no surprise that other projects have it better in this regard.
>
> > For +2 years with Lubuntu, the team has failed to gain access to its own
> > website.
> >
> > I don't know, I am running out of thoughts :)
>
> If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe it is
> necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out community
> issues.  This does seem like a dispute of sorts.  However, before that,
> I see that Leszek Lesner, Stefano Piccin, Naveen Agarwal, and Julien
> Lavergne are listed as developers. [1]  Can any shed light on the access
> question?
>
> Regards,
> /Lars
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre
>
>
None of the names you have mentioned are members of this team:
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/+members#active

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint lubuntu-website] Lubuntu Website must be ready for an LTS Release!

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do we have a webmaster in our team?
>
> Sergio Meneses
> Linux User: #478743
> Ubuntu User: #24056
>

Hi Sergio,

I have updated the Blueprint with my latest email and there was a
conversation between myself and Lars on the Comms Team Mailing List - you
can always check the Public Archive.

The Q you have asked is an old 'unanswered' Q for two years :D
Yes, shocked? that is the truth. I am sure if you dig on the archive of
Lubuntu Mailing List, you will find some emails about the website. You will
be amazed of what you may find ;)

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Nio Wiklund]

On 2013-11-11 12:07, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 12:55 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> [snip]
>> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
>>
>> And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at least
>> 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)
> [snip]
> 
> I wrote to the mb@ address back on the 6th of November regarding fixing
> some small problems with the site's rendering.  To my knowledge, I have
> not gotten back any kind of response whatsoever.  According to whois, he
> is still the overall contact for the site but most sites have more than
> one with write access.
> 
> There is no contact info give, just a redirect to the wiki.  Though we
> have a lot on the table, this should to be escalated.  There need to be
> at least two with write access to the web site so that should something
> happen to one, like we have now, the other can still carry on.
> 
> Regards,
> /Lars
> 

+1

Best regards
Nio

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[Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:


   1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html - Unsolved.
   2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html - Unsolved.
   3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html - someone
   has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had not got
   the support he needed as far as I remember.
   4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back in
   time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
   5.
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
   people who have access to the website.
   6.
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
when there was some replies.
   7.
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
very interesting thread :)
   8. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
another thread
   9. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
still interesting to look at
   10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one of the
   related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
   details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many emails and
   endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
   decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you fill find
   3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
   11. Yet, another email:
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
   12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
   issues started to come up
   13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter account:
   https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
   14. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
Long thread about the website.
   15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
   resigned from leading Lubuntu:
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html -
   at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from April
   or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a lot in
   Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
   16. From Mario:
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html - I
   guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I could
   be wrong about the date.
   17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
   read:
   https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
   18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but that
   email never got an answer until date.

And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.

You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu for
years.

THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)

Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do you
think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.

Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.

Do you have another thought?


Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)


I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the website.
This must be a community decision either to do something and take over the
control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Nio Wiklund]

Hi,
[replies inline]
Best regards
Nio

On 2013-11-11 11:55, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The Waiting Period is over now :)
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  > wrote:
> 
> Dear Communications Team and Brainstorming Team,
> 
> May I have you attention, please?
> 
> 
> For 5 days, no one has replied except Sergio? Hmm, this is not good :)
>  
> 
> 
> First of all, for those who are now aware of this, Lubuntu Team or
> at least those who are still active and around, they don't have
> access on the Website of Lubuntu and can't update it often. This is
> a long story that I am avoiding for now but at the same time, I feel
> that I must jump in and do something about this due to the huge
> importance of Lubuntu 14.04 for us as a community and for our users
> and because of all that, I can't remain silent about this anymore.
> 
> 
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
> 
> I know some of you may not be so patient and wait for a response
> from anyone. Therefore, this email :)
> 
> 1- I am working side by side with some good members of Lubuntu
> Community to come up with a solution to this issue once and for all.
> Patience is required, my good friends :)
> 
> 2- I have Plan B in mind in case our mission will fail and we won't
> be able to solve the website issue so rest assure that we will not
> give up so easily ;)
> 
> 3- For the last 2 years of Lubuntu Community History, there were
> VERY few who were super active and heavily involved, doing the dirty
> job and jump in whenever needed. THIS SHOULD BE HISTORY NOW. I ask
> each and everyone to be responsible and HELP and WORK as a team. You
> are not required to do much, just do something because you are part
> of this team. I am not going to ask you what you need to do, that
> should come from you ;)
> 
> 4- "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not let
> things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that
> someone else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after
> it = Team Work.
> 
> 
> 
> I have updated the above Blueprint with the latest progress and if
> there is anything new, I will update it right away.
> 
> As for Plan B, you need to be patient :) I don't want to discuss
> that while there is still some hope :)
> 
> I expect your support and help in this issue, simply because, you
> belong to the best community in the world and part of the best
> system in the world and it is a pleasure to be part of this community :)
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
> 
> And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at
> least 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)

There is no reply in the form of a mail, but someone has edited the text
about PAE, that I requested on the page Lubuntu.net. The edit is done in
a positive way (improving the text).

So there is response. Who edited the page? Is there some link, that we
@Lubuntu-comms don't know?

> Before I carry on with the idea I had in mind, I must be extra honest
> with all of you.
> 
> Lubuntu Team has a big issue which is LACK of communications. I have
> failed to find a logical explanation to this. I don't want to make it
> even worse but I personally do NOT like the way this team is heading.
> Yes, we are all volunteers and yes, real life comes first and all that
> is totally understood but what happened to the word: 'commitment' ???
> even if this is a volunteer job or task, people who are in charge/action
> must communicate and everyone who thinks he is involved must
> communicate. Am I missing something here? is there any other
> communication channel that I am not aware of?

What does Julien Lavergne know? Has he got a password to edit the page
or is he asking Mario Behling to edit the page (in private communications)?

What does Julien think about our activity? Maybe he does not want us to
get control of Lubuntu.net.

Who dares or wants to ask Julien?

> 
> *_Okay, the plan is:_*
> 
> Since we haven't received any reply, I do suggest to focus our attention
> on: [http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com] instead of the website that WE, as
> Lubuntu Team, has NO control over.
> 
> This suggestion/idea is based on many reasons:
> 
> 1- Rafael is the administrator of Lubuntu Blog and he is around and
> reply his emails and jump in to help and roll up his sleeves every time
> we need his help. He is a real active member who deserves our full respect.
> 
> 2- Lubuntu Blog can be updated, corrected, publish, etc ... it is an
> active channel that WE do have control over.
> 
> 3- Dealing with Lubuntu Blog is piece of cake. You can always update,
> correct mistakes, etc. No big deal.
> 
> 4- Rafael, AFAIK, doesn't mind to give 'Author' Access to members who
> are interested to p

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 04:32 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:
> 
> 
>1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html - Unsolved.
>2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html - Unsolved.
>3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html - someone
>has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had not got
>the support he needed as far as I remember.
>4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back in
>time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
>5.
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
> back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
>people who have access to the website.
>6.
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
> when there was some replies.
>7.
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
> very interesting thread :)
>8. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
> another thread
>9. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
> still interesting to look at
>10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one of the
>related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
>details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many emails and
>endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
>decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you fill find
>3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
>11. Yet, another email:
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
>12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
>issues started to come up
>13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter account:
>https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
>14. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
> Long thread about the website.
>15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
>resigned from leading Lubuntu:
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html -
>at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from April
>or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a lot in
>Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
>16. From Mario:
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html - I
>guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I could
>be wrong about the date.
>17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
>read:
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
>18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but that
>email never got an answer until date.
> 
> And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
> Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.
> 
> You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu for
> years.
> 
> THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)
> 
> Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do you
> think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.
> 
> Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.
> 
> Do you have another thought?
> 
> 
> Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)
> 
> 
> I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the website.
> This must be a community decision either to do something and take over the
> control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).
> 
> Thanks!

Well what's been tried before hasn't worked.  What's left to try?
As I suggested in the other thread:

> If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe
> it is necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out
> community issues.

Does someone on the list have contacts in Canonical?

Regards,
/Lars

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Nio Wiklund]

On 2013-11-11 15:36, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 04:32 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:
>>
>>
>>1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html - Unsolved.
>>2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html - Unsolved.
>>3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html - someone
>>has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had not got
>>the support he needed as far as I remember.
>>4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back in
>>time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
>>5.
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
>> back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
>>people who have access to the website.
>>6.
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
>> when there was some replies.
>>7.
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
>> very interesting thread :)
>>8. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
>> another thread
>>9. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
>> still interesting to look at
>>10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one of the
>>related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
>>details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many emails and
>>endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
>>decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you fill find
>>3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
>>11. Yet, another email:
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
>>12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
>>issues started to come up
>>13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter account:
>>https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
>>14. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
>> Long thread about the website.
>>15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
>>resigned from leading Lubuntu:
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html -
>>at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from April
>>or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a lot in
>>Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
>>16. From Mario:
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html - I
>>guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I could
>>be wrong about the date.
>>17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
>>read:
>>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
>>18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but that
>>email never got an answer until date.
>>
>> And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
>> Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.
>>
>> You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu for
>> years.
>>
>> THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)
>>
>> Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do you
>> think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.
>>
>> Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.
>>
>> Do you have another thought?
>>
>>
>> Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)
>>
>>
>> I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the website.
>> This must be a community decision either to do something and take over the
>> control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).
>>
>> Thanks!
> 
> Well what's been tried before hasn't worked.  What's left to try?
> As I suggested in the other thread:
> 
>> If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe
>> it is necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out
>> community issues.
> 
> Does someone on the list have contacts in Canonical?
> 
> Regards,
> /Lars
> 

I know of three persons, who have been engaged in Lubuntu, that I know
have direct contacts with Ubuntu/Canonical

Phill Whiteside
Lance 
Julien Lavergne

but I would hesitate to bother any of them with this issue.

Best regards
Nio

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Sergio Meneses]

Hi guys!

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> Hi,
> [replies inline]
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> On 2013-11-11 11:55, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Waiting Period is over now :)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  > > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Communications Team and Brainstorming Team,
> >
> > May I have you attention, please?
> >
> >
> > For 5 days, no one has replied except Sergio? Hmm, this is not good :)
> >
> >
> >
> > First of all, for those who are now aware of this, Lubuntu Team or
> > at least those who are still active and around, they don't have
> > access on the Website of Lubuntu and can't update it often. This is
> > a long story that I am avoiding for now but at the same time, I feel
> > that I must jump in and do something about this due to the huge
> > importance of Lubuntu 14.04 for us as a community and for our users
> > and because of all that, I can't remain silent about this anymore.
> >
> >
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
> >
> > I know some of you may not be so patient and wait for a response
> > from anyone. Therefore, this email :)
> >
> > 1- I am working side by side with some good members of Lubuntu
> > Community to come up with a solution to this issue once and for all.
> > Patience is required, my good friends :)
> >
> > 2- I have Plan B in mind in case our mission will fail and we won't
> > be able to solve the website issue so rest assure that we will not
> > give up so easily ;)
> >
> > 3- For the last 2 years of Lubuntu Community History, there were
> > VERY few who were super active and heavily involved, doing the dirty
> > job and jump in whenever needed. THIS SHOULD BE HISTORY NOW. I ask
> > each and everyone to be responsible and HELP and WORK as a team. You
> > are not required to do much, just do something because you are part
> > of this team. I am not going to ask you what you need to do, that
> > should come from you ;)
> >
> > 4- "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not let
> > things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that
> > someone else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after
> > it = Team Work.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have updated the above Blueprint with the latest progress and if
> > there is anything new, I will update it right away.
> >
> > As for Plan B, you need to be patient :) I don't want to discuss
> > that while there is still some hope :)
> >
> > I expect your support and help in this issue, simply because, you
> > belong to the best community in the world and part of the best
> > system in the world and it is a pleasure to be part of this
> community :)
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
> >
> > And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at
> > least 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)
>

this is sad to hear =/


>
> There is no reply in the form of a mail, but someone has edited the text
> about PAE, that I requested on the page Lubuntu.net. The edit is done in
> a positive way (improving the text).
>
> So there is response. Who edited the page? Is there some link, that we
> @Lubuntu-comms don't know?
>
> > Before I carry on with the idea I had in mind, I must be extra honest
> > with all of you.
> >
> > Lubuntu Team has a big issue which is LACK of communications. I have
> > failed to find a logical explanation to this. I don't want to make it
> > even worse but I personally do NOT like the way this team is heading.
> > Yes, we are all volunteers and yes, real life comes first and all that
> > is totally understood but what happened to the word: 'commitment' ???
> > even if this is a volunteer job or task, people who are in charge/action
> > must communicate and everyone who thinks he is involved must
> > communicate. Am I missing something here? is there any other
> > communication channel that I am not aware of?
>

I am in the irc channel, gtalk and mail, but I response emails not too
often, usually on weekends...


>
> What does Julien Lavergne know? Has he got a password to edit the page
> or is he asking Mario Behling to edit the page (in private communications)?
>
> What does Julien think about our activity? Maybe he does not want us to
> get control of Lubuntu.net.
>
> Who dares or wants to ask Julien?
>
> >
> > *_Okay, the plan is:_*
> >
> > Since we haven't received any reply, I do suggest to focus our attention
> > on: [http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com] instead of the website that WE, as
> > Lubuntu Team, has NO control over.
> >
> > This suggestion/idea is based on many reasons:
> >
> > 1- Rafael is the administrator of Lubuntu Blog and he is around and
> > reply his emails and jump in to help and roll up his sleeves every time
> > we need his help

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Sergio Meneses]

I think we can try to get a Lubuntu site but using the blog format as we
talk in the previous message

Sergio Meneses
Linux User: #478743
Ubuntu User: #24056


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> On 2013-11-11 15:36, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > On 11/11/2013 04:32 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:
> >>
> >>
> >>1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html -
> Unsolved.
> >>2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html -
> Unsolved.
> >>3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html -
> someone
> >>has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had
> not got
> >>the support he needed as far as I remember.
> >>4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back
> in
> >>time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
> >>5.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
> >> back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
> >>people who have access to the website.
> >>6.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
> >> when there was some replies.
> >>7.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
> >> very interesting thread :)
> >>8.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
> >> another thread
> >>9.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
> >> still interesting to look at
> >>10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one
> of the
> >>related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
> >>details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many
> emails and
> >>endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
> >>decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you
> fill find
> >>3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
> >>11. Yet, another email:
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
> >>12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
> >>issues started to come up
> >>13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter
> account:
> >>https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
> >>14.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
> >> Long thread about the website.
> >>15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
> >>resigned from leading Lubuntu:
> >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html-
> >>at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from
> April
> >>or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a
> lot in
> >>Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
> >>16. From Mario:
> >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html- I
> >>guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I
> could
> >>be wrong about the date.
> >>17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
> >>read:
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
> >>18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but
> that
> >>email never got an answer until date.
> >>
> >> And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
> >> Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.
> >>
> >> You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu
> for
> >> years.
> >>
> >> THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)
> >>
> >> Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do
> you
> >> think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.
> >>
> >> Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.
> >>
> >> Do you have another thought?
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)
> >>
> >>
> >> I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the
> website.
> >> This must be a community decision either to do something and take over
> the
> >> control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > Well what's been tried before hasn't worked.  What's left to try?
> > As I suggested in the other thread:
> >
> >> If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe
> >> it is necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out
> >> community issues.
> >
> > Does someone on the list have contacts in Canonical?
> >
> > Regards,
> > /Lars
> >
>
> I know of three persons, who have been engaged in Lubuntu, that I know
> have direct contacts with Ubuntu/Canonical
>
> Phill Whiteside
> Lance 
> Julien Lavergne
>
> but I would hesitate to bother any of them with this issue.
>
> B

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint lubuntu-website] Lubuntu Website must be ready for an LTS Release!

[Sergio Meneses]

I saw the new email... done

Sergio Meneses
Linux User: #478743
Ubuntu User: #24056


On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Sergio Meneses <
> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Do we have a webmaster in our team?
>>
>> Sergio Meneses
>> Linux User: #478743
>> Ubuntu User: #24056
>>
>
> Hi Sergio,
>
> I have updated the Blueprint with my latest email and there was a
> conversation between myself and Lars on the Comms Team Mailing List - you
> can always check the Public Archive.
>
> The Q you have asked is an old 'unanswered' Q for two years :D
> Yes, shocked? that is the truth. I am sure if you dig on the archive of
> Lubuntu Mailing List, you will find some emails about the website. You will
> be amazed of what you may find ;)
>
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> Best Regards,
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[Lubuntu-comms] http://lubuntu.net

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Dear Mario,

I hope this email finds you well :)

It's been one year and a half and I have never seen one word from you so I
am seriously started to be worried, are you okay? I do hope you are doing
well and in good health.

As pointed out on the Subject of this email, this is regarding a very old
unresolved issue related to the whole Lubuntu Community.

AFAIK, you are the only one who has access to Lubuntu Website. Myself and
some good friends of mine have failed to find out who else has access to
that area beside you and after chasing down this very issue, we ended up
banding our head against the wall because no one knows who exactly can make
one simple edit on the website of Lubuntu.

Before I send this email, I went back to the Archive of Lubuntu:

https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms

I wanted to double check if there was some hope previously regarding this
issue but sadly, I have ended up with no hope and a dead end. This was and
still going to absolutely no where.

I am sending this email not as a Team Leader of this Community but as a
Lubuntu User who has a feedback or a suggestion and I'd like to send it and
share it with the whole community :)

Mario, if you are inactive, not interested, busy, etc and have no time or
can not or don't want to do anything for Lubuntu Website, kindly provide
the access to the right people who would love to jump in, roll up their
sleeves and contribute to the website of the system they love, like, use
and share with their love ones :)

I believe, this is the simplest, easiest and humblest request after all
that time.

Not to speak on someone's else behalf but there are some members who are
confused and don't know what to do nor they like the fact of not having any
kind of access/control over the website of the community they are part of
and contribute to.

Thank you for your understanding and I do hope that we could reach to a
solution for this unresolved issue :)

@Lubuntu Community:

If there is someone else who can still read this and indeed has an access
to Lubuntu Website, would you please be so kind and nice and speak up? it
is not nice that we keep banging our heads against the wall, looking for
someone who can update the information and correct the mistakes on the
website and we can't find anyone whatsoever so kindly, say something :)

@Everyone:

After this email, if this very issue won't get resolved, some good friends
suggested to contact Canonical and escalate the issue to someone who might
be able to help or advise, at least.

No need to be negative and assume this will not be resolved but just in
case, we could for now use Lubuntu Blog (lubuntublog.blogspot.com) as a
Temporary Solution and as a permanent solution, the community need to come
up with something like another website or any other solution the community
see fit :)

Just a thought/suggestion/idea :)

Thank you everyone!

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu Community] Cleaning up Routine & Activities

[Sergio Meneses]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

Hi,

  Kindly have a read at:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre

  I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit
 more in details than here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community

  Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately
 about the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some
 people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up
 suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to
 be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is
 contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the
 overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in
 regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply
 because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots
 of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK.

  Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that
 previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not
 only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over
 the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to
 help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case
 in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply
 leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a
 few people job rather than a Community and Team work.

  Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not
 let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone
 else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it."

Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing
 Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu
 will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down!

  You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself
 and some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with
 Lubuntu which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and
 most of the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a
 special magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead
 machine but can take you far away and open your mind and change your life.

  Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very
 good time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with
 testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :)

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre

  Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon!
  Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and
 who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that
 :)


 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity

  Thank you!

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 On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway <
 a...@dvorak-keyboards.com> wrote:
 Ali:

 As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and
 only contribute occasionally.

 If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more
 time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list.

 - Aere

 --
 Sincerely,
 Aere

  Hi Aere,
>>>
>>> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in
>>> easy, simple and clear way :)
>>>
>>> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to
>>> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :)  I am sure I
>>> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that
>>> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community
>>> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be
>>> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :)
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community
>>>
>>> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as
>>> long as we are following these guidelines:
>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything
>>> is fine. No one i

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Sergio Meneses]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Sergio Meneses <
> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys!
>>
>> I have created new designs and put the others together in the same wiki
>> to get a good view of the changes, you can find there the current design as
>> well.
>>
>> remember we are working on the re-design, the content is no complete we
>> might add more links to provide more information to our visitors
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/Lubuntu-Wiki/headerGeneral
>>
>> ok guys! please send your ideas and thoughts as always, and remember this
>> header will be in all our wikis :)
>>
>>
>> Regards and big hugs
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I see lots of progress, well done :)
>
> My Opinion:
>
> +1 for Design #3 - Xubuntu Style. Why? simply because it will allow you to
> add max 12 Links (4 at each square and you can add one more square if
> needed) on these 3 squares without taking so much space.
>

I really like Xubuntu style, it is easier to add content than the others
styles and it looks more organized.


>
> And, if you could have a mixture design of: #1 and #2, that could be great
> too. Small icons with different background colour will make the small icons
> more visible :)
>
> And, yes, this is not a final draft so totally understand that.
>
> Great job, keep it up and keep them coming ;)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Sergio Meneses <
>> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys!
>>>
>>> I have created new designs and put the others together in the same wiki
>>> to get a good view of the changes, you can find there the current design as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> remember we are working on the re-design, the content is no complete we
>>> might add more links to provide more information to our visitors
>>>
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SergioMeneses/sandbox/Lubuntu-Wiki/headerGeneral
>>>
>>> ok guys! please send your ideas and thoughts as always, and remember
>>> this header will be in all our wikis :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards and big hugs
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I see lots of progress, well done :)
>>
>> My Opinion:
>>
>> +1 for Design #3 - Xubuntu Style. Why? simply because it will allow you
>> to add max 12 Links (4 at each square and you can add one more square if
>> needed) on these 3 squares without taking so much space.
>>
>
> I really like Xubuntu style, it is easier to add content than the others
> styles and it looks more organized.
>
>

+1
And Rafael doesn't really have to design any new icons for that :)



>
>> And, if you could have a mixture design of: #1 and #2, that could be
>> great too. Small icons with different background colour will make the small
>> icons more visible :)
>>
>> And, yes, this is not a final draft so totally understand that.
>>
>> Great job, keep it up and keep them coming ;)
>>
>>
Thank you!

P.S.
Can you now create a final draft?

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:

> No problem for that if needed, you know that ;)
>
> --
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> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>

Absolutamente, amgio :)

But let's say, I'd like to save your time so you could focus on other stuff
;) :P

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> On 11/11/2013 04:32 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:
> >
> >
> >1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html -
> Unsolved.
> >2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html -
> Unsolved.
> >3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html -
> someone
> >has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had
> not got
> >the support he needed as far as I remember.
> >4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back
> in
> >time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
> >5.
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
> > back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
> >people who have access to the website.
> >6.
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
> > when there was some replies.
> >7.
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
> > very interesting thread :)
> >8.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
> > another thread
> >9.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
> > still interesting to look at
> >10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one of
> the
> >related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
> >details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many emails
> and
> >endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
> >decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you fill
> find
> >3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
> >11. Yet, another email:
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
> >12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
> >issues started to come up
> >13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter account:
> >https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
> >14.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
> > Long thread about the website.
> >15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
> >resigned from leading Lubuntu:
> >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html-
> >at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from
> April
> >or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a lot
> in
> >Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
> >16. From Mario:
> >https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html- I
> >guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I
> could
> >be wrong about the date.
> >17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
> >read:
> >
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
> >18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but
> that
> >email never got an answer until date.
> >
> > And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
> > Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.
> >
> > You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu
> for
> > years.
> >
> > THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)
> >
> > Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do you
> > think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.
> >
> > Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.
> >
> > Do you have another thought?
> >
> >
> > Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)
> >
> >
> > I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the website.
> > This must be a community decision either to do something and take over
> the
> > control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Well what's been tried before hasn't worked.  What's left to try?
> As I suggested in the other thread:
>
> > If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe
> > it is necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out
> > community issues.
>

That, for example, something we haven't tried :)


>
> Does someone on the list have contacts in Canonical?
>
> Regards,
> /Lars


I do have some friend who works for Canonical and other with Ubuntu
Membership but I guess those who work with Canonical could have the upper
hand. However, not sure who can help in this very specific issue!

I know Nicholas Skaggs.

Perhaps there is a mailing list or IRC channel or a sub-forum for these
kinds of issues? not really sure.

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:47 PM, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> On 2013-11-11 15:36, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > On 11/11/2013 04:32 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Some old threads found on the Public Archive of Lubuntu Mailing List:
> >>
> >>
> >>1. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg04911.html -
> Unsolved.
> >>2. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05038.html -
> Unsolved.
> >>3. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05474.html -
> someone
> >>has offered his help to build a new website for Lubuntu and he had
> not got
> >>the support he needed as far as I remember.
> >>4. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg05377.html - back
> in
> >>time when there were some kind of activities on the website.
> >>5.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-January/18.html-
> >> back in time when there was some activities and some 'replies' from
> >>people who have access to the website.
> >>6.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000423.html-
> >> when there was some replies.
> >>7.
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000499.html-
> >> very interesting thread :)
> >>8.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000676.html-
> >> another thread
> >>9.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-March/000740.html-
> >> still interesting to look at
> >>10. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00063.html - one
> of the
> >>related problems was the Twitter Account as it was with Mario (login
> >>details) and he refused to give it to anyone and after so many
> emails and
> >>endless tries, we failed to get the login details and that is when we
> >>decided to create NEW twitter account. If you check twitter, you
> fill find
> >>3 accounts, all claim to be the official one :D
> >>11. Yet, another email:
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-February/000449.html
> >>12. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00092.html - some
> >>issues started to come up
> >>13. Some interested threads about the website and the twitter
> account:
> >>https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/thrd4.html
> >>14.
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-June/001654.html-
> >> Long thread about the website.
> >>15. FOR those who don't know that, this is when Julien officially
> >>resigned from leading Lubuntu:
> >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001516.html-
> >>at that time, there was some issues on the team I think started from
> April
> >>or May, can't remember but that was the email which has changed a
> lot in
> >>Lubuntu, at least IMHO.
> >>16. From Mario:
> >>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2012-May/001415.html- I
> >>guess after that period, no one has ever heard from him again but I
> could
> >>be wrong about the date.
> >>17. Someone who offered his help and waited for so long but ... well,
> >>read:
> >>
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-February/003391.html
> >>18. 4-May-2013, I sent a long email to Julien about the website but
> that
> >>email never got an answer until date.
> >>
> >> And, I am sure there are twice more threads on the archive on Lubuntu
> >> Mailing List (main) and Lubuntu Comms Archive.
> >>
> >> You see, the website issue has been the Mission Impossible for Lubuntu
> for
> >> years.
> >>
> >> THIS EMAIL JUST to shade more light on the issue :)
> >>
> >> Give me one good reason why should I keep fighting for this cause? do
> you
> >> think we can take the control over our own website? I don't think so.
> >>
> >> Moving to plan B whatever it is? could be.
> >>
> >> Do you have another thought?
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, you guys have the history of Lubuntu Website, AKA lubuntu.net :)
> >>
> >>
> >> I have nothing more to give/provide anymore when it comes to the
> website.
> >> This must be a community decision either to do something and take over
> the
> >> control over their own website OR go for Plan B (whatever you see fit).
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > Well what's been tried before hasn't worked.  What's left to try?
> > As I suggested in the other thread:
> >
> >> If it can be documented as having gone on that long, then maybe
> >> it is necessary to contact someone for Ubuntu who can sort out
> >> community issues.
> >
> > Does someone on the list have contacts in Canonical?
> >
> > Regards,
> > /Lars
> >
>
> I know of three persons, who have been engaged in Lubuntu, that I know
> have direct contacts with Ubuntu/Canonical
>
> Phill Whiteside
>

He has resigned.



> Lance 
>

He is only involved with Testing AFAIK.



> Julien Lavergne
>

No comment :)
And, he is not a part of Canonical, he has Ubuntu membership.


>
> but I would hesitate to bother any of them with this issue.
>
> Best regard

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[JM]

Hello Ali,

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:55:30 +0400
"Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

> Don't get me wrong, my good friends but you see, I am doing my best here
> and sharing all my thoughts with you but I am NOT a superman,

Yes you are! You have proven you are the one with the cape and the mask, 
spotted! ;-)


> I can't do everything all by myself.

Well, Superman does have his helpers, doesn't he? :p


> I am tired of being super active :) we need to work as a TEAM. Can we?

In one word, is there a TODO somewhere?

(I didn't read the whole content of the mails for they were too long).

Here are things I would like to try to participate to during the coming months 
until
Trusty is out:
* Report bugs against the Lubuntu Software Center (because it works much less 
well than
the official one and has less descriptions of programs translated to my native 
language,
which might be the same for other languages);

* Participate to testing alphas, but I am not there yet because I don't have 
enough time
available ATM;

* Continue to read the incoming mails from the lubuntu - brainstorming and qa - 
and
participate modestly where I think I am able to;

Regards,
Mélodie


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] History of Lubuntu Website - lubuntu.net

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we can try to get a Lubuntu site but using the blog format as we
> talk in the previous message
>
> Sergio Meneses
> Linux User: #478743
> Ubuntu User: #24056
>
>
Using Lubuntu Blog is SUPER easy and at least, anyone can do it. It is
piece of cake. I know because I have many blogs - example:
http://amjjawad.blogspot.com and http://ali-bethechange.blogspot.com

Ubuntu GNOME and Peppermint are using WordPress and I have access to both
from day 1 (didn't have to wait 2 years :P)

Rafael is already posting  on the blog but if we decided to use the blog is
Lubuntu Main Website or to replace the website that we have no control over
nor can update anything on it, then I guess more people need to be
involved. The Setup of the blog is perfect and s beautiful, it just needs
more contributors.

I see no reason to hold us back as long as the website issue has been alive
for 2 years and God knows how many more years it will remain like that :)
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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> Hi,
> [replies inline]
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> On 2013-11-11 11:55, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Waiting Period is over now :)
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  > > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Communications Team and Brainstorming Team,
> >
> > May I have you attention, please?
> >
> >
> > For 5 days, no one has replied except Sergio? Hmm, this is not good :)
> >
> >
> >
> > First of all, for those who are now aware of this, Lubuntu Team or
> > at least those who are still active and around, they don't have
> > access on the Website of Lubuntu and can't update it often. This is
> > a long story that I am avoiding for now but at the same time, I feel
> > that I must jump in and do something about this due to the huge
> > importance of Lubuntu 14.04 for us as a community and for our users
> > and because of all that, I can't remain silent about this anymore.
> >
> >
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-website
> >
> > I know some of you may not be so patient and wait for a response
> > from anyone. Therefore, this email :)
> >
> > 1- I am working side by side with some good members of Lubuntu
> > Community to come up with a solution to this issue once and for all.
> > Patience is required, my good friends :)
> >
> > 2- I have Plan B in mind in case our mission will fail and we won't
> > be able to solve the website issue so rest assure that we will not
> > give up so easily ;)
> >
> > 3- For the last 2 years of Lubuntu Community History, there were
> > VERY few who were super active and heavily involved, doing the dirty
> > job and jump in whenever needed. THIS SHOULD BE HISTORY NOW. I ask
> > each and everyone to be responsible and HELP and WORK as a team. You
> > are not required to do much, just do something because you are part
> > of this team. I am not going to ask you what you need to do, that
> > should come from you ;)
> >
> > 4- "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not let
> > things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that
> > someone else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after
> > it = Team Work.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have updated the above Blueprint with the latest progress and if
> > there is anything new, I will update it right away.
> >
> > As for Plan B, you need to be patient :) I don't want to discuss
> > that while there is still some hope :)
> >
> > I expect your support and help in this issue, simply because, you
> > belong to the best community in the world and part of the best
> > system in the world and it is a pleasure to be part of this
> community :)
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> >
> > https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00726.html
> >
> > And, until date, there is NO reply from Mario nor anyone else who at
> > least 'claims' that he/she is in charge :)
>
> There is no reply in the form of a mail, but someone has edited the text
> about PAE, that I requested on the page Lubuntu.net. The edit is done in
> a positive way (improving the text).
>
>
Indeed. 'Someone'. WHO IS that someone? :D guess what? the real question is
not WHO is doing that, the Q is WHY is he/she hiding :D

And, by the way, that is not everything :D
The website if FULL of weak points that must be corrected/improved. Example?

1- The Website is still telling the world that Chromium is the default
browser :D check the slide show, slide no.3 :D
2- NOT even one word about Lubuntu 14.04 being an LTS
3- The website is actually a ONE Page site with links, almost all these
links are pointed or directed to the Wiki Area :D my personal blog has more
pages than Lubuntu website :P http://amjjawad.blogspot.com
4- The website MUST have a Website Administrator. Someone I know has joined
PeppermintOS and Ubuntu GNOME and they given him access to their website
despite the fact he is NEW to these community :D maybe Lubuntu current
website master can't trust anyone? I have no clue.



> So there is response. Who edited the page? Is there some link, that we
> @Lubuntu-comms don't know?
>

The Q is (I am not kidding): How to undo the hidden curse so we could find
our guy???!!!


>
> > Before I carry on with the idea I had in mind, I must be extra honest
> > with all of you.
> >
> > Lubuntu Team has a big issue which is LACK of communications. I have
> > failed to find a logical explanation to this. I don't want to make it
> > even worse but I personally do NOT like the way this team is heading.
> > Yes, we are all volunteers and yes, real life comes first and all that
> > is totally understood but what happened to the word: 'commitment' ???
> > even if this is a volunteer job or task, people who are in charge/action
> > must communicate and everyone who thinks he is involved must
> > commun

Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Leading Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and Others

[Andre Rodovalho]

I would like to contribute more with Lubuntu. But I'm too busy untill
july-2014.

I'm trying to help people when I see threads here, and also on G+; this is
the maximium I can do right now!

I wish luck for you and the best for who accept this mission, and
contribute to Lubuntu!


2013/11/11 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 

> Hi,
>
> Long story short, due to the lack of communications between Lubuntu Team
> Members/Community and due to unsolved issues that it seems Myself and ONLY
> few are running after to solve and due to the fact that there are ONLY VERY
> few active members who are supporting and helping as much as they can, it
> seems my thoughts, activities and approach with Lubuntu is going to a dead
> end.
>
> I have done my very best. I got burned out many many times. I have
> suffered a lot and I have given more than what I'm supposed to give, etc.
> ALL that because I love Lubuntu. But, this is getting no where and I am
> seriously, very tired.
>
> If there is someone who would like to take over the Brainstorming Area and
> take over the Ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team and all the other
> stuff that I am in charged of:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team
>
> Please, let me know :)
>
> I will be around whenever you need me as I shall never turn my back to
> anyone in need of my help.
>
> Good Luck and All the best!
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Sergio Meneses]

OK guys!

I am going to make a review of the design an publish it as the official, I
will let you know before as always ;)

Sergio Meneses
Linux User: #478743
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Rafael Laguna wrote:
>
>> No problem for that if needed, you know that ;)
>>
>> --
>> Rafael Laguna
>> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>>
>
> Absolutamente, amgio :)
>
> But let's say, I'd like to save your time so you could focus on other
> stuff ;) :P
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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:49 PM, JM  wrote:

> Hello Ali,
>

Salut Mélodie,


>
> On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:55:30 +0400
> "Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:
>
> > Don't get me wrong, my good friends but you see, I am doing my best here
> > and sharing all my thoughts with you but I am NOT a superman,
>
> Yes you are! You have proven you are the one with the cape and the mask,
> spotted! ;-)
>

That is Batman with a mask, not Superman :P



>
>
> > I can't do everything all by myself.
>
> Well, Superman does have his helpers, doesn't he? :p
>

AFAIK, he does :)



>
>
> > I am tired of being super active :) we need to work as a TEAM. Can we?
>
> In one word, is there a TODO somewhere?
>

For Lubuntu 14.04: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming

I recommend to have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Brainstorming

I have decided to discuss each and every thing related to Lubuntu as a
system and Lubuntu as a Team and community on the blueprints and we are
using the mailing lists as well.



> (I didn't read the whole content of the mails for they were too long).
>

Sometimes, it is a huge pain in the neck (I do suffer from that) but it is
important :) but it depends on what kind of discussion is going on.



>
> Here are things I would like to try to participate to during the coming
> months until
> Trusty is out:
> * Report bugs against the Lubuntu Software Center (because it works much
> less well than
> the official one and has less descriptions of programs translated to my
> native language,
> which might be the same for other languages);
>
> * Participate to testing alphas, but I am not there yet because I don't
> have enough time
> available ATM;
>
> * Continue to read the incoming mails from the lubuntu - brainstorming and
> qa - and
> participate modestly where I think I am able to;
>
>
Thank you for your interest to help and support the community, Lubuntu
needs people like you :)



> Regards,
> Mélodie
>
>
Merci beaucoup, I really appreciate that :) keep it up!


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] New Header Design

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK guys!
>
> I am going to make a review of the design an publish it as the official, I
> will let you know before as always ;)
>
> Sergio Meneses
> Linux User: #478743
> Ubuntu User: #24056
>

Hold your horses :P :P
Why so in hurry?

I was trying to say, it is good idea to have a final draft before we go for
a final design. So, before the header go live into the live area, it could
still remain on your sandbox area for one more night ;)

The team needs to see the header and how it will look like before going
live and IMHO, it is good idea to use different colours than the one on
your sandbox area because these colours are similar to Xubuntu, right? I
suggest to use only one colour no need to make it complicated and use more
:) just a thought.

YAY, new header is coming :D



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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> On 11/11/2013 12:18 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> [snip]
> > Hi,
> >
> > The story has been available since April, 2013:
> > https://launchpad.net/startubuntu
> >
> > Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to
> publish
> > a story about StartUbuntu
> >
> > http://www.infoworld.com/
> >
> > http://www.itworld.com/
> >
> > http://www.networkworld.com/
> >
> > I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
> > Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
> > Some didn't even reply back.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Hi,
>
> Which have promised to write and which ones have not even replied?
>
> /Lars
>

Hi,

I am afraid I can't remember which I have sent to and haven't replied (that
is somewhere on my sent items) but I always in touch with some website and
people and the last one who promised to publish something was ZDNet -
http://www.zdnet.com/

I had an idea to contact BBC, CNN, etc ... the big media names and send
them ... I am sure they have some kind of Technology Dept. but I got super
busy with Lubuntu unresolved issue and now, I am totally burned out :D

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 08:29 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:
> 
>> On 11/11/2013 12:18 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The story has been available since April, 2013:
>>> https://launchpad.net/startubuntu
>>>
>>> Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to
>> publish
>>> a story about StartUbuntu
>>>
>>> http://www.infoworld.com/
>>>
>>> http://www.itworld.com/
>>>
>>> http://www.networkworld.com/
>>>
>>> I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
>>> Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
>>> Some didn't even reply back.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Which have promised to write and which ones have not even replied?
>>
>> /Lars
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am afraid I can't remember which I have sent to and haven't replied (that
> is somewhere on my sent items) but I always in touch with some website and
> people and the last one who promised to publish something was ZDNet -
> http://www.zdnet.com/

Can you recall who?  ZDNet has a range of people from full time MS
people masquerading as journalists to actual technology journalists.
Some will be more open (no pun intended) than others.

> I had an idea to contact BBC, CNN, etc ... the big media names and send
> them ... I am sure they have some kind of Technology Dept. but I got super
> busy with Lubuntu unresolved issue and now, I am totally burned out :D

Should the team write up something and then shop that around?

Regards,
/Lars



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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Lars Noodén  wrote:

> On 11/11/2013 08:29 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Lars Noodén 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/11/2013 12:18 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> The story has been available since April, 2013:
> >>> https://launchpad.net/startubuntu
> >>>
> >>> Someone just needs to contact these websites and ask them nicely to
> >> publish
> >>> a story about StartUbuntu
> >>>
> >>> http://www.infoworld.com/
> >>>
> >>> http://www.itworld.com/
> >>>
> >>> http://www.networkworld.com/
> >>>
> >>> I have previously contacted several websites. Some have published:
> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu/Activities
> >>> Some have promised to do that but haven't yet.
> >>> Some didn't even reply back.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Which have promised to write and which ones have not even replied?
> >>
> >> /Lars
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am afraid I can't remember which I have sent to and haven't replied
> (that
> > is somewhere on my sent items) but I always in touch with some website
> and
> > people and the last one who promised to publish something was ZDNet -
> > http://www.zdnet.com/
>
> Can you recall who?


Not at the moment. I tried to find that on my sent items but couldn't but
that should not be hard. A quick google search, can bring a list of many IT
Websites, Magazines, etc that can be contacted.



> ZDNet has a range of people from full time MS
> people masquerading as journalists to actual technology journalists.
> Some will be more open (no pun intended) than others.
>

Steven Vaughan-Nichols: is the one I have asked to publish an article about
StartUbuntu but he didn't yet AFAIK. I have asked him twice.


>
> > I had an idea to contact BBC, CNN, etc ... the big media names and send
> > them ... I am sure they have some kind of Technology Dept. but I got
> super
> > busy with Lubuntu unresolved issue and now, I am totally burned out :D
>
> Should the team write up something and then shop that around?
>
> Regards,
> /Lars
>
>
Why not? :)
I have contacted several parties so I guess if the team wants to play a
role in this, why not?

It should not be hard. Few words to summarize everything with a link of
StartUbuntu Wiki Page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StartUbuntu

It shouldn't talk more than 5-15 mins MAX to do that.

Are you referring to a standard text that we can write and use it as a
template to be sent to other parties?

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] advert^w whitepaper

[Lars Noodén]

On 11/11/2013 08:52 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
> Are you referring to a standard text that we can write and use it as a
> template to be sent to other parties?

I was thinking of the fancy, wordy advertising passed around as
"whitepapers"  Basically it would be a write up of the benefits of Lubuntu.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] [Lubuntu-brainstorming] [ATTENTION] Lubuntu Website

[JM]

On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:21:05 +0400
"Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

> Salut Mélodie,

Bonsoir Ali,


> > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013 14:55:30 +0400
> > "Ali Linx (amjjawad)"  wrote:

> That is Batman with a mask, not Superman :P

This changes everything! :p


> > > I can't do everything all by myself.
> > Well, Superman does have his helpers, doesn't he? :p
> AFAIK, he does :)

And they don't always announce loud "I'm here to hlpp!". Right?


> > > I am tired of being super active :) we need to work as a TEAM. Can we?
> > In one word, is there a TODO somewhere?


> For Lubuntu 14.04: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming
> 
> I recommend to have a look at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Brainstorming


I will provide some criticisms here (not that you have not worked hard, I let 
you decide
if my criticism can be helpful):

This is not a todo, this is a list of TODO's.

While asking for a todo I was expecting a simple list ordered by "the most 
hurrying" and
eventually followed by tasks which would be listed under "the easiest" (for 
what is done
is not to be done again… normally… )

It could be followed by a TODO which would have for name "Future TODO", or 
"Next TODO".
Just one list with precise directions.

The other criticism is so, this one blueprint:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-sub-teams

Quote:
«»

No I can't quote. I don't know where this post is going but I am lost as soon 
as I start
reading. I am looking for clear instructions on things which need to be done 
and I don't
find any at the beginning, in the middle and I don't know what that post is 
meant for,
it's not a TODO: in the context of my question, it is fully Off Topic. :-|


> I have decided to discuss each and every thing related to Lubuntu as a
> system and Lubuntu as a Team and community on the blueprints and we are
> using the mailing lists as well.

This spreads the energy. I suppose a blueprint means something such as "a map", 
a
roadline, and should not replace discussions on a mailing list, but offer a 
space where
people will focuse on a precise tasks to bring ideas which can be picked up 
directly by
the developers to improve a program or create a new one. 

Therefore and with all due respect, discussion on blueprints about the team and 
the
community(ies) seems to me irrelevant. 

If I am wrong about that, you and anyone else can feel free to tell me.


> > Here are things I would like to try to participate to during the coming
> > months until
> > Trusty is out:
> > * Report bugs against the Lubuntu Software Center (because it works much
> > less well than
> > the official one and has less descriptions of programs translated to my
> > native language,
> > which might be the same for other languages);
> >
> > * Participate to testing alphas, but I am not there yet because I don't
> > have enough time
> > available ATM;
> >
> > * Continue to read the incoming mails from the lubuntu - brainstorming and
> > qa - and
> > participate modestly where I think I am able to;
> >
> >
> Thank you for your interest to help and support the community, Lubuntu
> needs people like you :)


Thank you for being a Batman (with the cape and the mask) in the Lubuntu team. 
:)
The Lubuntu team needs people like you! :-)

Regards,
Mélodie



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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 14.04 Manual

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-manual
>
> Can we please move forward regarding the manual? can we decide whether
> Lubuntu 14.04 will have a manual or not?
>
>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual




> You can update the blueprint and/or carry on to discuss that here.
>
> Thank you!
>

Are we going to have Lubuntu Manual for 14.04 or not?
How long does it take to decide that?
Are the people who signed up for this are still interested or not?
Do we need to find more people?
Is there anyone else who would like to join?
Do we have to ask on our Social Media whether someone might be interested
to join?
Do we have to seek Ubuntu Manual Team help or advice?

Thank you!

P.S.
I have included all the Sub-Teams because this, IMHO, must be a
community/team work and I am sure the manual will need information from all
the sub-teams :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 14.04 Manual

[Sergio Meneses]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-manual
>>
>> Can we please move forward regarding the manual? can we decide whether
>> Lubuntu 14.04 will have a manual or not?
>>
>>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual
>
>
>
>
>> You can update the blueprint and/or carry on to discuss that here.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
> Are we going to have Lubuntu Manual for 14.04 or not?
>

Yes


> How long does it take to decide that?
>

I think one week... starting now


> Are the people who signed up for this are still interested or not?
>

I put my name and Pierre on the blueprint board... I will put other if they
want to work.


> Do we need to find more people?
>

Indeed, maybe will need some artwork, edit sections and reviews... about
translations I might speak to david planella to get some help of the
translation team.


> Is there anyone else who would like to join?
>

Maybe we should public a call for helping in our blogs or something in the
social networks, what do you say guys?


> Do we have to ask on our Social Media whether someone might be interested
> to join?
>

+1 


> Do we have to seek Ubuntu Manual Team help or advice?
>

Agree, we have to take their work as reference, maybe we might no make a
manual as large as ubuntu-manual but we have to start

reference:
http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/13.10/en_US/screen/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2013.10.pdf


>
> Thank you!
>

:)


>
> P.S.
> I have included all the Sub-Teams because this, IMHO, must be a
> community/team work and I am sure the manual will need information from all
> the sub-teams :)
>

I think we should create a project on LP about the lubuntu-manual, this
will help us to work together and make the work easy - imho


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 14.04 Manual

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Sergio Meneses <
sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-manual
>>>
>>> Can we please move forward regarding the manual? can we decide whether
>>> Lubuntu 14.04 will have a manual or not?
>>>
>>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> You can update the blueprint and/or carry on to discuss that here.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>
>> Are we going to have Lubuntu Manual for 14.04 or not?
>>
>
> Yes
>

Good to know :)



>
>
>> How long does it take to decide that?
>>
>
> I think one week... starting now
>

Nice :)




>
>
>> Are the people who signed up for this are still interested or not?
>>
>
> I put my name and Pierre on the blueprint board... I will put other if
> they want to work.
>

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual << this page
should be updated too :)

By the way, I have added a new section for anyone who might be interested
to join ;)



>
>
>> Do we need to find more people?
>>
>
> Indeed, maybe will need some artwork, edit sections and reviews... about
> translations I might speak to david planella to get some help of the
> translation team.
>

Are you/we planning to have more than one language?


>
>
>> Is there anyone else who would like to join?
>>
>
> Maybe we should public a call for helping in our blogs or something in the
> social networks, what do you say guys?
>
>
>> Do we have to ask on our Social Media whether someone might be interested
>> to join?
>>
>
> +1 
>

DONE ;)

https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page/posts/614171658617913

https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/permalink/606075542782603/

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts/c3sYYrABA54

https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts/KpmbzrhqkFP



>
>
>> Do we have to seek Ubuntu Manual Team help or advice?
>>
>
> Agree, we have to take their work as reference, maybe we might no make a
> manual as large as ubuntu-manual but we have to start
>
> reference:
> http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/13.10/en_US/screen/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2013.10.pdf
>
>

KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) so that we reflect the Lubuntu Philosophy
;)




>
>> Thank you!
>>
>
> :)
>
>
>>
>> P.S.
>> I have included all the Sub-Teams because this, IMHO, must be a
>> community/team work and I am sure the manual will need information from all
>> the sub-teams :)
>>
>
> I think we should create a project on LP about the lubuntu-manual, this
> will help us to work together and make the work easy - imho
>
>

DONE ;)

https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual


P.S.
No need to thank me, I adore Lubuntu :)


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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 14.04 Manual

[Sergio Meneses]

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:

>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Sergio Meneses <
> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Hi,


 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/lubuntu-manual

 Can we please move forward regarding the manual? can we decide whether
 Lubuntu 14.04 will have a manual or not?


>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 You can update the blueprint and/or carry on to discuss that here.

 Thank you!

>>>
>>> Are we going to have Lubuntu Manual for 14.04 or not?
>>>
>>
>> Yes
>>
>
> Good to know :)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> How long does it take to decide that?
>>>
>>
>> I think one week... starting now
>>
>
> Nice :)
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>  Are the people who signed up for this are still interested or not?
>>>
>>
>> I put my name and Pierre on the blueprint board... I will put other if
>> they want to work.
>>
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationTeam/Manual << this page
> should be updated too :)
>
> By the way, I have added a new section for anyone who might be interested
> to join ;)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>  Do we need to find more people?
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, maybe will need some artwork, edit sections and reviews... about
>> translations I might speak to david planella to get some help of the
>> translation team.
>>
>
> Are you/we planning to have more than one language?
>

I think Spanish, Ubuntu translation team has a lot of people that speak
Spanish


>
>
>>
>>
>>>  Is there anyone else who would like to join?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe we should public a call for helping in our blogs or something in
>> the social networks, what do you say guys?
>>
>>
>>>  Do we have to ask on our Social Media whether someone might be
>>> interested to join?
>>>
>>
>> +1 
>>
>
> DONE ;)
>
> https://www.facebook.com/Lubuntu.Official.Page/posts/614171658617913
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/permalink/606075542782603/
>
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts/c3sYYrABA54
>
>
> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts/KpmbzrhqkFP
>
>
perfect!


>
>
>>
>>
>>> Do we have to seek Ubuntu Manual Team help or advice?
>>>
>>
>> Agree, we have to take their work as reference, maybe we might no make a
>> manual as large as ubuntu-manual but we have to start
>>
>> reference:
>> http://files.ubuntu-manual.org/manuals/getting-started-with-ubuntu/13.10/en_US/screen/Getting%20Started%20with%20Ubuntu%2013.10.pdf
>>
>>
>
> KISS (Keep It Simple and Short) so that we reflect the Lubuntu Philosophy
> ;)
>
>
Agree


>
>
>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>> P.S.
>>> I have included all the Sub-Teams because this, IMHO, must be a
>>> community/team work and I am sure the manual will need information from all
>>> the sub-teams :)
>>>
>>
>> I think we should create a project on LP about the lubuntu-manual, this
>> will help us to work together and make the work easy - imho
>>
>>
>
> DONE ;)
>
> https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual
>
>
Ok we might take the team and create the project, with blueprints, bugs and
all stuffs


>
> P.S.
> No need to thank me, I adore Lubuntu :)
>
>
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[Lubuntu-comms] Adding Contact Us Page/Tab

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi Rafael,

http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com

Can you please add: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
As a tab/page on Lubuntu Blog? that would be so helpful :)

Also, is it possible to add something about the Social Media?

Twitter: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial

Google+:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106362800741775815583/106362800741775815583/posts

I can indeed see Facebook only but there is no Google+ nor Twitter.
Blogspot already has gadget for Google+ but not quite sure about Twitter.

Thank you :)

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[Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint lubuntu-blog] Lubuntu Blog to Replace Lubuntu Website

[amjjawad]

Blueprint changed by amjjawad:

Assignee: (none) => Lubuntu Comms

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[Lubuntu-comms] Twitter

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

For those who have Twitter Account, you can follow Lubuntu on Twitter :)

https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial

Thanks!

P.S.
Full List of Lubuntu Communications Channels:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Leading Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and Others

[Iberê Fernandes]

2013/11/11 Andre Rodovalho 

> I would like to contribute more with Lubuntu. But I'm too busy untill
> july-2014.
>
> I'm trying to help people when I see threads here, and also on G+; this is
> the maximium I can do right now!
>
> I wish luck for you and the best for who accept this mission, and
> contribute to Lubuntu!
>
>
> 2013/11/11 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Long story short, due to the lack of communications between Lubuntu Team
>> Members/Community and due to unsolved issues that it seems Myself and ONLY
>> few are running after to solve and due to the fact that there are ONLY VERY
>> few active members who are supporting and helping as much as they can, it
>> seems my thoughts, activities and approach with Lubuntu is going to a dead
>> end.
>>
>> I have done my very best. I got burned out many many times. I have
>> suffered a lot and I have given more than what I'm supposed to give, etc.
>> ALL that because I love Lubuntu. But, this is getting no where and I am
>> seriously, very tired.
>>
>> If there is someone who would like to take over the Brainstorming Area
>> and take over the Ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team and all the
>> other stuff that I am in charged of:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team
>>
>> Please, let me know :)
>>
>> I will be around whenever you need me as I shall never turn my back to
>> anyone in need of my help.
>>
>> Good Luck and All the best!
>>
>> --
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>> Best Regards,
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Ali,

Please, could you give me the  ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team?

Besides, thank you for what you've have been doing lately!

Take your time and don't be a stranger.

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Re: [Lubuntu-comms] Leading Lubuntu Brainstorming Team and Others

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Iberê Fernandes
wrote:

> 2013/11/11 Andre Rodovalho 
>
>> I would like to contribute more with Lubuntu. But I'm too busy untill
>> july-2014.
>>
>> I'm trying to help people when I see threads here, and also on G+; this
>> is the maximium I can do right now!
>>
>> I wish luck for you and the best for who accept this mission, and
>> contribute to Lubuntu!
>>
>>
>> 2013/11/11 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Long story short, due to the lack of communications between Lubuntu Team
>>> Members/Community and due to unsolved issues that it seems Myself and ONLY
>>> few are running after to solve and due to the fact that there are ONLY VERY
>>> few active members who are supporting and helping as much as they can, it
>>> seems my thoughts, activities and approach with Lubuntu is going to a dead
>>> end.
>>>
>>> I have done my very best. I got burned out many many times. I have
>>> suffered a lot and I have given more than what I'm supposed to give, etc.
>>> ALL that because I love Lubuntu. But, this is getting no where and I am
>>> seriously, very tired.
>>>
>>> If there is someone who would like to take over the Brainstorming Area
>>> and take over the Ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team and all the
>>> other stuff that I am in charged of:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Lubuntu-Team
>>>
>>> Please, let me know :)
>>>
>>> I will be around whenever you need me as I shall never turn my back to
>>> anyone in need of my help.
>>>
>>> Good Luck and All the best!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>> Best Regards,
>>> amjjawad 
>>> Areas of Involvement
>>> My Projects 
>>>
>>>
>>
> Ali,
>

Hi Ibere,



> Please, could you give me the  ownership of Lubuntu Communications Team?
>

DONE :)
Thank you so much, that was a huge burden and now, I feel much better
because I know for a fact that the team is between a capable hands and
someone I can trust, the whole community can trust and he can move forward.
I have done my part, now, it is your turn :P


>
> Besides, thank you for what you've have been doing lately!
>

I love Lubuntu so no need to thank me but you welcome :)



>
> Take your time and don't be a stranger.
>

Who told you I am? hahaha, of course I am not ;)
I shall remain an admin to help whenever needed but NOT the owner of the
team. I feel I am a FREE bird when I have no roles because once you are the
owner/leader of a team, you should do a lot and for me, I am no longer
interested to lead the Communications team. It is time for someone else to
take the lead of that department :) I know for a fact that you can do it
and you DO HAVE MY FULL Support so no worries :D


>
> Best regards,
>
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>
>
Thank you so much for taking care of the Communications Team and remember,
I am few clicks away from you ;)


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[Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint lubuntu-comms-lead-needed] Lubuntu Communications Team needs a New Team Leader Urgently

[amjjawad]

Blueprint changed by amjjawad:

Whiteboard changed:
  [amjjawad] IMPORTANT NOTE: From now and on, Team Leaders of other Sub-
  Teams will have access to all the Sub-Teams. This is a pre-caution
  action, JUST IN CASE another mess will happen so there will be 0% chance
  of any mess or failure. Having that said, Both Rafael (TL of Artwork)
  and Sergio (TL of Wiki) are now Admins on the launchpad for Lubuntu-
  Comms: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/+members
  
- HOWEVER, other TL for other Sub-Teams don't have to do anything at all.
- So, no worries Rafael and Sergio :D
+ HOWEVER, other TL for other Sub-Teams don't have to do anything at all. So, 
no worries Rafael and Sergio :D
+ - - - - -
+ [amjjawad] The Team now has NEW Owner :)
+ However, there are still vacancy for the other positions: 
  
- - - - - -
+ a- Head of Lubuntu Communications - FOUND!
+ b- Administrator of Lubuntu Communications: FOUND!
+ c- Social Media Admin #1 - Vacant
+ d- Social Media Admin #2 - Vacant 
+ 
+ Hope we could finish this this week :)

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[Lubuntu-comms] [Blueprint lubuntu-comms-lead-needed] Lubuntu Communications Team needs a New Team Leader Urgently

[amjjawad]

Blueprint changed by amjjawad:

Work items changed:
  Work items:
  - Email sent to Lubuntu Communications Team + CC The Main Mailing List - 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-November/006020.html : DONE
  - Lubuntu Communications Team has NEW Owner - 
https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-comms/msg00879.html : DONE
- - Two Social Media Administrator to be found : TODO

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