On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjja...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> On 11/06/2013 07:55 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Kindly have a read at: >>>> >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre >>>> >>>> I have updated this Wiki Page with some new information which a bit >>>> more in details than here: >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved#Lubuntu_Community >>>> >>>> Myself and some 'active' members of Lubuntu have discussed lately >>>> about the activities of the team in general. We have noticed there are some >>>> people who remain silent for months without any notice and then show up >>>> suddenly then disappear again. We noticed that the list of members need to >>>> be cleaned up so the Team Leaders of Lubuntu know at least who is >>>> contributing and ask them for help and who is not. We have noticed that the >>>> overall activities have been much less and while this could be normal in >>>> regular releases at this stage, it is NOT for this cycle - why? simply >>>> because Lubuntu 14.04 is going to be an LTS Release and that requires lots >>>> of 'TEAM' work and I insist, TEAM WORK. >>>> >>>> Also, we *(active members of the team) *came to understand that >>>> previously, some tasks/roles were being handled by only 1-2 people if not >>>> only one. This has proved to add unbelievable stress and huge burden over >>>> the shoulder of those people. And, in most times, when they were in need to >>>> help and support, they got very little bit of it. THIS must NOT be the case >>>> in this cycle. And, I am sorry to be extra honest here but I will simply >>>> leave Lubuntu once and for all if I will continue to feel that this is a >>>> few people job rather than a Community and Team work. >>>> >>>> Team work = "We must all have a great sense of responsibility and not >>>> let things happen because everyone takes the comfortable view that someone >>>> else is looking after it. Someone else isn't looking after it." >>>> >>>> Lubuntu needs you for the coming 6 months and even after releasing >>>> Lubuntu 14.04 LTS, whether it will be supported for 2 years or more Lubuntu >>>> will still need you. Please, don't let Lubuntu down! >>>> >>>> You may wonder what is the big deal behind all that but for myself >>>> and some other members, this is called Loyalty and being in love with >>>> Lubuntu which will make you dedicate some of your own time to do things and >>>> most of the time, do more than what you are supposed to do. Lubuntu has a >>>> special magic that not only can breathe new life into an old semi-dead >>>> machine but can take you far away and open your mind and change your life. >>>> >>>> Before the Real Hard and Tough Work starts for 14.04, it is a very >>>> good time to discuss such issues before 'active' people get busy with >>>> testing, bugs, etc and won't have time to stuff like that :) >>>> >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre >>>> >>>> Hopefully, we can get this list updated soon! >>>> Because, we do need to know who is contributing and participating and >>>> who is not. At least, for our information and I see nothing wrong with that >>>> :) >>>> >>>> >>>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/team-activity >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." >>>> Best Regards, >>>> amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> >>>> Areas of Involvement<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> >>>> My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Aere Greenway < >>>> a...@dvorak-keyboards.com> wrote: >>>> Ali: >>>> >>>> As I indicated in my last reply to you, at present, I am very busy, and >>>> only contribute occasionally. >>>> >>>> If the criteria for being on this list as being able to put in more >>>> time, then by all means, feel free to remove me from this e-mail list. >>>> >>>> - Aere >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Aere >>>> >>>> Hi Aere, >>> >>> I am sorry if my email wasn't clear for you. Allow me to explain in >>> easy, simple and clear way :) >>> >>> 1- I am afraid you are confused between the mailing list as a way to >>> communicate with everyone and being active as a contributor :) I am sure I >>> have explained that to you months ago but I'd be glad to explain that >>> again. I am sure I was extra clear about the two groups that our community >>> consists of: Users and Contributors. For Users, they are not required to be >>> active. For Contributors, they 'are required' to be active :) >>> >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Community >>> >>> 2- NO ONE will remove ANYONE. This is a Mailing List for everyone and as >>> long as we are following these guidelines: >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailing-lists - then everything >>> is fine. No one is going to remove you, Aere :) >>> >>> 3- This is a usual routine we do from time to time. What is special this >>> time is we will go for an LTS release and we do need to re-evaluate >>> everything to avoid the previous mistakes and adopt the best approach to >>> not only have a rock solid system but a strong team that is capable of >>> whatever task/challenge it may have of face :) >>> >>> I hope this is clear and if not, please let me know and I will be very >>> glad to re-explain. >>> >>> If you think you are busy then for sure, you can simply add your name >>> here: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre#Lubuntu_Users >>> >>> Before, we had only a list of actual members and active contributors but >>> now, Users can also add their names :) >>> >>> Thank you! >>> >>> @Phill, Lars and others who updated their entries: THANK YOU SO MUCH :D >>> >>> Have a great time everyone! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Sergio Meneses < >>> sergioandresmene...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I am agree! >>> >>> Sergio Meneses >>> Linux User: #478743 >>> Ubuntu User: #24056 >>> >>> >> > Hi Sergio, > > I am glad you agree. It breaks my heart to see only few are still active > and it makes ms sad a lot to see this community has a problem that should > be addressed and fixed: Lack Of Communications! > > I am sorry, I don't feel that we are working as a team anymore. > We are beginning with a new cycle and members, this things needs time ;) > > Thank you for everyone who is active and for those who are trying to be > active. Someone needs to start recruiting more contributors IMHO. I wish I > could do that but for two reasons, I will not. > 1- I am so busy with Ubuntu GNOME Team ( > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/UbuntuGNOME-Team) > 2- I am no longer interested to do a lot alone all by myself. > you are not alone > > Lubuntu is a community and there should be a team work. > > I do know who is active. They are a huge support. They are helping me and > helping this community to remain active and move forward. But, they are > few. They know who they are, I don't need to mention names :) THANK YOU for > your support. > > I will be around if you guys need me! > > Good Luck :) > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> >
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