Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Frederick G Street]

TWO boats to work on -- AAARGH!!!   :^)

(Having just gotten back from a long weekend of boat work.  At least the snow 
up there is starting to melt, although I did have to shovel out the cockpit 
when I arrived Friday night -- completely full to the coamings, and drifted up 
against the hatch board…)

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:

> Sander wrote:
>>  I have no experience rebuilding boats. 
> 
> Good call.  It would be a good backyard project if you want to rebuild a boat 
> but have another boat to sail.
> 
> Wal

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Frederick G Street]

Now we just need to find crew to sail her to the Netherlands.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Rick Brass  wrote:

> Sander;
>  
> Where are you located?
>  
> At the risk of crass commerciality, and with apologies to the rest of the 
> list, I will gladly sell you my 25 mk1, which I’ve owned for 19 years and 
> have resisted selling until I can find someone who will love it  as much as I 
> do and keep it in the condition it is in now.
> 

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Stevan Plavsa]

Yeah I second shipping a boat. Up here in Ontario there are lots of C&C 25s
on the market. Asking price starting is typically around 5k and I bet they
sell for a lot less. I sold my own Mirage 24 (a C&C design) for $3700 and I
was glad to get it.

Steve
C&C 32
Toronto


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Frederick G Street wrote:

> *TWO* boats to work on -- AAARGH!!!   :^)
>
> (Having just gotten back from a long weekend of boat work.  At least the
> snow up there is starting to melt, although I did have to shovel out the
> cockpit when I arrived Friday night -- completely full to the coamings, and
> drifted up against the hatch board…)
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
> On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Wally Bryant  wrote:
>
> Sander wrote:
>
>  I have no experience rebuilding boats. 
>
>
> Good call.  It would be a good backyard project if you want to rebuild a
> boat but have another boat to sail.
>
> Wal
>
>
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Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[ok]

I've been sailing my new 1978 C&C 24 in Mobile Bay, Beer Can races each week 
since this season started.  So far I've been doing a lot better than my 
previous boat, usually placing around 4th-8th.   This weekend we had our big 
regatta, the Dauphin Island Race.  I did fairly well placing 2nd in my class 
and 3rd in fleet.  A light air run on the start got me ahead of the big pack 
into clean air, which quickly flipped 180 degrees into a close reach all the 
way to the finish.  Passed a lot of big and fast boats.  My C&C 24 points so 
well!  Pretty happy with my little boat right now.  

Link to results here:  
http://55thdauphinislandrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_DI_PortsNonSpinResults.pdf

My boat is class F, East Wind

Thanks for the racing tips I got earlier from this list!
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[Curtis]

Thats great news. Congratzzz! and happy sailing


On 4/29/13, ok  wrote:
> I've been sailing my new 1978 C&C 24 in Mobile Bay, Beer Can races each week
> since this season started.  So far I've been doing a lot better than my
> previous boat, usually placing around 4th-8th.   This weekend we had our big
> regatta, the Dauphin Island Race.  I did fairly well placing 2nd in my class
> and 3rd in fleet.  A light air run on the start got me ahead of the big pack
> into clean air, which quickly flipped 180 degrees into a close reach all the
> way to the finish.  Passed a lot of big and fast boats.  My C&C 24 points so
> well!  Pretty happy with my little boat right now.
>
> Link to results here:
> http://55thdauphinislandrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_DI_PortsNonSpinResults.pdf
>
> My boat is class F, East Wind
>
> Thanks for the racing tips I got earlier from this list!
> Orren


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Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Joel Aronson]

I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.
 It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get
the hull out.

any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
boat wet?

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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Della Barba, Joe]

If you have a lift that actually can handle to boat safely I don't see any 
reason not to use it.

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:20 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.  It 
would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
hull out.

any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
wet?

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35/3
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Sander van der Moolen]

Bob Dryer  said:

As far as I know, there is no such animal as "waterproof plywood"

--

 

That's what I get when I try to translate words literally from Dutch to
English J

It's a market name for this type of plywood, being "more resistant to water
and weather than regular plywood". I don't know how you call it.

 

Cheers,

 

Sander

 

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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Knowles Rich]

Show off!!  Keep the lift, sell the house and take off like Wal. 

Rich Knowles
Indigo. LF38
Halifax

On 2013-04-29, at 12:19, Joel Aronson  wrote:

I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.  It 
would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
hull out.  

any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
wet?

-- 
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35/3
Annapolis
301 541 8551
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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Frederick G Street]

I think we usually refer to this product as "marine plywood," meaning it has 
been constructed with water-resistant glue, and the veneers are often made of 
tropical hardwoods.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 29, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Sander van der Moolen  wrote:

> It's a market name for this type of plywood, being "more resistant to water 
> and weather than regular plywood". I don't know how you call it.

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Sander van der Moolen]

Sounds like an adventure!

Seriously though, the shipping, taxes and mandatory CE label would be twice
the price of the boat. Easy.
Gotta love import/export regulation :)


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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:19:53 -0500
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself
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Now we just need to find crew to sail her to the Netherlands.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 28, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Rick Brass  wrote:

> Sander;
>  
> Where are you located?
>  
> At the risk of crass commerciality, and with apologies to the rest of the
list, I will gladly sell you my 25 mk1, which I?ve owned for 19 years and
have resisted selling until I can find someone who will love it  as much as
I do and keep it in the condition it is in now.
> 

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Yeah I second shipping a boat. Up here in Ontario there are lots of C&C 25s
on the market. Asking price starting is typically around 5k and I bet they
sell for a lot less. I sold my own Mirage 24 (a C&C design) for $3700 and I
was glad to get it.

Steve
C&C 32
Toronto


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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Dennis C.]

Joel,

There was a C&C 38 for sale on Yachtworld last year that was dry-sailed from a 
lift.  


Only downside is if your local rating organization has a penalty for 
dry-sailing.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA





>
> From: Joel Aronson 
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"  
>Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:19 AM
>Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
> 
>
>
>I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.  
>It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
>hull out.  
>
>
>any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
>wet?
>
>
>-- 
>Joel 
>35/3
>Annapolis
>301 541 8551 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[Marek Fluder]

Good job Orren!
Light air is our advantage - I was asked once if I was motoring when
passing by a bigger guy
Since you say that your boat points well: can you tell what is your tacking
angle in relatively flat water in about 10knts of true wind? (no pinching)

Kind regards
Marek Fluder
C&C24 "Emilie" Hamilton Harbour, Ontario



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM, ok  wrote:

> **
> I've been sailing my new 1978 C&C 24 in Mobile Bay, Beer Can races each
> week since this season started.  So far I've been doing a lot better than
> my previous boat, usually placing around 4th-8th.   This weekend we had our
> big regatta, the Dauphin Island Race.  I did fairly well placing 2nd in my
> class and 3rd in fleet.  A light air run on the start got me ahead of the
> big pack into clean air, which quickly flipped 180 degrees into a close
> reach all the way to the finish.  Passed a lot of big and fast boats.  My
> C&C 24 points so well!  Pretty happy with my little boat right now.
>
> Link to results here:
> http://55thdauphinislandrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_DI_PortsNonSpinResults.pdf
>
> My boat is class F, East Wind
>
> Thanks for the racing tips I got earlier from this list!
> Orren
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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Gary Nylander]

The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats almost out of 
the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of years had this when 
he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem - it would be like having your 
boat in a travel lift.

Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats 
there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel and 
yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts. and the 
dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed the J-80 for 
two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single strap. Going to do 
the same with a J-24 this year.

Gary
St. Michaels
  - Original Message - 
  From: Joel Aronson 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
  Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?


  I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.  
It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
hull out.  


  any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
wet?



  -- 
  Joel 
  35/3
  Annapolis
  301 541 8551 


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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[RAYMOND SHIBE]

Might be making reference to 'marine plywood". I think the glue
is somewhat water proof.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Sander van der Moolen wrote:

 Bob Dryer  said:
As far as I know, there is no such animal as "waterproof plywood"
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English J
It's a market name for this type of plywood, being "more resistant to 
water and weather than regular plywood". I don't know how you call it.


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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Sander van der Moolen]

Okay, just to make the topic complete, click the link below to download a
zip file with pictures.
This is only the hull, I didn't take pictures of the rest of it.

http://www.vpilot.net/images/candc25.zip




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Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

[Walt Dickie]

On a friend's boat equipped with Spinlocks we've discovered that we can stop a 
lot of slippage by pushing down on the cam with your finger (making it engage 
the line more forcefully) as you close the lever. Seems to make a big 
difference.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

I would suspect the cams. You can easily inspect them for wear. I've had to 
replace the cams several times. When you buy the cam, the spring is included 
since it's part of the assembly.
You might also inspect the bottom plate, but it seems to wear less, and it not 
as critical.

Don Wagner
C&C 41 CB
Der Baron

- Original Message -
From: Edd Schillay
To: JOHN D IRVIN ; 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

John,

Chances are it's the springs, but might as well replace both. Spinlock sells a 
wealth of replacement parts that are pretty easy to install.

All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, JOHN D IRVIN 
mailto:john.ir...@rogers.com>> wrote:


Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III. They are starting 
to slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers can provide. Change the 
springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions pppreciated. John Irvin BYC Ottawa
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Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

[Hoyt, Mike]

Yeah - having that finger jammed in there all day really makes it grip
better!



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Walt
Dickie
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches



On a friend's boat equipped with Spinlocks we've discovered that we can
stop a lot of slippage by pushing down on the cam with your finger
(making it engage the line more forcefully) as you close the lever.
Seems to make a big difference.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don
Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

I would suspect the cams. You can easily inspect them for wear. I've had
to replace the cams several times. When you buy the cam, the spring is
included since it's part of the assembly.

You might also inspect the bottom plate, but it seems to wear less, and
it not as critical.

 

Don Wagner

C&C 41 CB

Der Baron 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Edd Schillay   

To: JOHN D IRVIN   ;
cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:42 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

John, 

 

Chances are it's the springs, but might as well replace both.
Spinlock sells a wealth of replacement parts that are pretty easy to
install. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website
 

 

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, JOHN D IRVIN
 wrote:





Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III.
They are starting to slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers
can provide. Change the springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions
pppreciated. John Irvin BYC Ottawa

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Stus-List fiberglass board scrap

[Frederick G Street]

Hey -- does anyone on the list have a small (5" x 5") scrap of 3/8" thick 
fiberglass board left over from projects that they'd be willing to send/sell to 
me?  I'm replacing the stern light with an LED fixture, and the cutout for the 
old one is huge; I'd like to patch it before I install the new light; also the 
new screws have nothing to bite into.  I can order a 12" x 12" piece from 
McMaster-Carr, but if there are scraps available, I'd rather go that route.

BTW, this past weekend I replaced the old below-deck "teardrop" bow lights with 
new LED fittings from SeaDog (part number 400080-1) -- a direct replacement for 
size with the old ones, and they're super-bright, as well as USCG-approved.  
Now I just need to get the stern light replaced and I'm good to go with nav 
lights.



Fred Street -- Minneapolis
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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Ron Casciato]

I'd be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your boat..vis-a
vis the J80...I'll bet there's at least 10,000 lbs difference between that
boat and your C&C 35/3.

 

That's one hell of a lift..

 

Ron C.

Impromptu 38MKIIC.'77

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Nylander
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

 

The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats almost out
of the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of years had
this when he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem - it would be like
having your boat in a travel lift.

 

Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats
there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel
and yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts.
and the dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed
the J-80 for two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single
strap. Going to do the same with a J-24 this year.

 

Gary

St. Michaels

- Original Message - 

From: Joel   Aronson 

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM

Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

 

I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat.
It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get
the hull out.   

 

any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the boat
wet?


 

-- 
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35/3

Annapolis
301 541 8551 


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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Joel Aronson]

There's a 42 foot power boat on it now!


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato wrote:

> ** ** ** **
>
> I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your
> boat..vis-a vis the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs
> difference between that boat and your C&C 35/3.
>
> ** **
>
> That’s one hell of a lift..
>
> ** **
>
> Ron C.
>
> Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Nylander
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM
> *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com**
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats
> almost out of the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of
> years had this when he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem
> - it would be like having your boat in a travel lift.
>
>  
>
> Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats
> there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel
> and yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts.
> and the dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed
> the J-80 for two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single
> strap. Going to do the same with a J-24 this year.
>
>  
>
> Gary
>
> St. Michaels
>
>  - Original Message - 
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson  
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
>
> *Subject:* Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my
> boat.  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could
> certainly get the hull out.   
>
> ** **
>
> any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
> boat wet?
> 
>
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Re: Stus-List fiberglass board scrap

[Ron Casciato]

Fred:  It would be easier to make that scrap up yourself..pick up some
cloth at AutoZone with a can of resin and just layer it until you get to
3/8".

 

Ron C.

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List fiberglass board scrap

 

Hey -- does anyone on the list have a small (5" x 5") scrap of 3/8" thick
fiberglass board left over from projects that they'd be willing to send/sell
to me?  I'm replacing the stern light with an LED fixture, and the cutout
for the old one is huge; I'd like to patch it before I install the new
light; also the new screws have nothing to bite into.  I can order a 12" x
12" piece from McMaster-Carr, but if there are scraps available, I'd rather
go that route.

 

BTW, this past weekend I replaced the old below-deck "teardrop" bow lights
with new LED fittings from SeaDog (part
  number 400080-1) -- a direct replacement for size with the old
ones, and they're super-bright, as well as USCG-approved.  Now I just need
to get the stern light replaced and I'm good to go with nav lights.

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
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Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Kim Brown]

Joel 
Dry sailing is certainly viewed as a plus here. You can remove the bottom
paint and spend quality time wet fairing and sanding. Only caution based on
lifts in this area is to be sure the lift is drops deep enough. Depending on
style etc you'll lose the equivalent of 6" or so of water depth. So be sure
it'll work for you at low tide lest you find yourself clunking the cross
member in your comings and goings.  It is not like you can 'heel the boat'
to get away from the dock if the tide is challenging and you are on a
lift...

Kim Brown
Trust Me!!! 35-3

- Original Message - 
  From: Joel Aronson 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
  Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?


  I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my
boat.  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could
certainly get the hull out.  


  any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
boat wet?



  -- 
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  35/3
  Annapolis
  301 541 8551


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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Chris Price]

Joel, there are plenty of boats your size on lifts. Will we be seeing you on 
the Magothy soon? 

Chris Price 
Pradel 
35 Mk I 

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Aronson"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:25:05 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 


There's a 42 foot power boat on it now! 



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato < rjcasci...@comcast.net > wrote: 






I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your boat..vis-a vis 
the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs difference between that boat and 
your C&C 35/3. 



That’s one hell of a lift.. 



Ron C. 

Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77 






From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 






The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats almost out of 
the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of years had this when 
he was in Texas . Doesn't seem to be a problem - it would be like having your 
boat in a travel lift. 





Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats 
there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel and 
yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts. and the 
dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed the J-80 for 
two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single strap. Going to do 
the same with a J-24 this year. 





Gary 


St. Michaels 




- Original Message - 


From: Joel Aronson 


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 


Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM 


Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 





I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat. It 
would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
hull out. 





any issues dry-sailing a keelboat? Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
wet? 





-- 
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35/3 


Annapolis 
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Re: Stus-List fiberglass board scrap

[Rick Brass]

Fred;

 

Send me your mailing address off list and I will mail you one of the 5x8
sections of fiberglass that I saved when I put larger access panels into the
cockpit side of my transom. It’s only about ¼” thick, but it does have Smoke
White gelcoat on one side.

 

When I redid the outside of the transom, I relocated the stern light using a
new fixture and an LED bulb purchased from Dr. LED. I put a layer of glass
on the inside of the old hole and filled and faired with thickened epoxy.
Might that not be easier than scarfing in a section of glass?

 

I already replaced the bulbs in my “teardrop” nav lights with red and green
LEDs made for that purpose. I forget what those are – a type 60 or type 90
bulb – but they were not commonly available. My current usage is pretty low,
but last weekend I noticed that the chrome on the old “teardrops” is
starting to turn to rust stains after 37 years. My first question, when I
thought about replacing the fixtures, was the availability of a light that
was the same size and shape. Thanks for doing the research for me.

 

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:39 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List fiberglass board scrap

 

Hey -- does anyone on the list have a small (5" x 5") scrap of 3/8" thick
fiberglass board left over from projects that they'd be willing to send/sell
to me?  I'm replacing the stern light with an LED fixture, and the cutout
for the old one is huge; I'd like to patch it before I install the new
light; also the new screws have nothing to bite into.  I can order a 12" x
12" piece from McMaster-Carr, but if there are scraps available, I'd rather
go that route.

 

BTW, this past weekend I replaced the old below-deck "teardrop" bow lights
with new LED fittings from SeaDog (part number 400080-1)
  -- a direct replacement for size with the old ones, and they're
super-bright, as well as USCG-approved.  Now I just need to get the stern
light replaced and I'm good to go with nav lights.

 


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Joel Aronson]

The house is on Whitehall creek.  Right now it does not look like its going
to happen.  We are very dissapointed!

Joel
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Price  wrote:

Joel, there are plenty of boats your size on lifts. Will we be seeing you
on the Magothy soon?

Chris Price
Pradel
35 Mk I

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*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Sent: *Monday, April 29, 2013 5:25:05 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

There's a 42 foot power boat on it now!


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato wrote:

> ** ** ** **
>
> I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your
> boat..vis-a vis the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs
> difference between that boat and your C&C 35/3.
>
> ** **
>
> That’s one hell of a lift..
>
> ** **
>
> Ron C.
>
> Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Nylander
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM
> *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com**
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats
> almost out of the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of
> years had this when he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem
> - it would be like having your boat in a travel lift.
>
>  
>
> Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats
> there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel
> and yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts.
> and the dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed
> the J-80 for two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single
> strap. Going to do the same with a J-24 this year.
>
>  
>
> Gary
>
> St. Michaels
>
>  - Original Message - 
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson  
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
>
> *Subject:* Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my
> boat.  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could
> certainly get the hull out.   
>
> ** **
>
> any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
> boat wet?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Joel 
>
> 35/3
>
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> 301 541 8551 
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[Bob Bob]

Hi Marek,  Not quite sure of the tack angle.  I'll ask my pro sailing
friend who's been sailing with me.

Thanks,
Orren
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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Chris Price]

I'm sorry to hear that. When my wife and I were newlyweds, we had a house that 
we rented, 3BR, 20 acres and a dock on Blackhole Creek. We moved in in November 
and I was transferred to Rochester, NY in May. Never spent a summer there. 
There is a house for sale on Blackhole creek now, but it would have to be 
demolished and the dock would have to be extended to get the depth necessary, 
but it's a great location. 

Chris Price 
Pradel 
35 Mk I 

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Aronson"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:29:38 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 


The house is on Whitehall creek. Right now it does not look like its going to 
happen. We are very dissapointed! 

Joel 
Sent from my iPad 

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Price < iceboa...@comcast.net > wrote: 





Joel, there are plenty of boats your size on lifts. Will we be seeing you on 
the Magothy soon? 

Chris Price 
Pradel 
35 Mk I 

- Original Message -
From: "Joel Aronson" < joel.aron...@gmail.com > 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:25:05 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 


There's a 42 foot power boat on it now! 



On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato < rjcasci...@comcast.net > wrote: 






I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your boat..vis-a vis 
the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs difference between that boat and 
your C&C 35/3. 



That’s one hell of a lift.. 



Ron C. 

Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77 






From: CnC-List [mailto: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com ] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 






The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats almost out of 
the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of years had this when 
he was in Texas . Doesn't seem to be a problem - it would be like having your 
boat in a travel lift. 





Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats 
there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel and 
yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts. and the 
dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed the J-80 for 
two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single strap. Going to do 
the same with a J-24 this year. 





Gary 


St. Michaels 




- Original Message - 


From: Joel Aronson 


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 


Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM 


Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift? 





I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat. It 
would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get the 
hull out. 





any issues dry-sailing a keelboat? Should I sell the lift and keep the boat 
wet? 





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35/3 


Annapolis 
301 541 8551 



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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Bob Moriarty]

I would elbow others in the eye (not literally) to get Ox on a lift. No
more cleaning the bottom myself. No more paying someone to do it and
wondering how good of a job they did. No more bottom paint.
w00t, w00t, and big w00t.

All of the successful PHRF racers around here are on lifts (no penalty).
(That's the excuse I'm sticking to.)

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Joel Aronson wrote:

> I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my
> boat.  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could
> certainly get the hull out.
>
> any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
> boat wet?
>
> --
> Joel
> 35/3
> Annapolis
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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Monty Schumpert]

Joel, 

Is the house across the creek from Whitehall Marina? I live in Amberley and 
keep my boat at the community pier just down creek from the lift I think you 
are referring to.

Monty
Scandia
C&C 34+
Annapolis, MD

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

> The house is on Whitehall creek.  Right now it does not look like its going 
> to happen.  We are very dissapointed!
> 
> Joel
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Price  wrote:
> 
>> Joel, there are plenty of boats your size on lifts. Will we be seeing you on 
>> the Magothy soon?
>> 
>> Chris Price
>> Pradel
>> 35 Mk I
>> 
>> From: "Joel Aronson" 
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:25:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>> 
>> There's a 42 foot power boat on it now!
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato  wrote:
>>> I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your boat..vis-a 
>>> vis the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs difference between that 
>>> boat and your C&C 35/3.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> That’s one hell of a lift..
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ron C.
>>> 
>>> Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
>>> Nylander
>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats almost 
>>> out of the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of years 
>>> had this when he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem - it would be 
>>> like having your boat in a travel lift.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats 
>>> there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel 
>>> and yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts. 
>>> and the dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed 
>>> the J-80 for two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single 
>>> strap. Going to do the same with a J-24 this year.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> St. Michaels
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> 
>>> From: Joel Aronson
>>> 
>>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my boat. 
>>>  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could certainly get 
>>> the hull out.  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the 
>>> boat wet?
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Joel 
>>> 
>>> 35/3
>>> 
>>> Annapolis
>>> 301 541 8551
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

[Joel Aronson]

Monty,

no, as you come up the creek its on the branch on the left.  Its a
partially built house.  Turns out the county is limiting the number of bed
and bathrooms due to the septic system.  I'll look to see the one you are
talking about.  Community pier!

Joel
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 7:11 PM, Monty Schumpert 
wrote:

Joel,

Is the house across the creek from Whitehall Marina? I live in Amberley and
keep my boat at the community pier just down creek from the lift I think
you are referring to.

Monty
Scandia
C&C 34+
Annapolis, MD

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Joel Aronson  wrote:

The house is on Whitehall creek.  Right now it does not look like its going
to happen.  We are very dissapointed!

Joel
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Price  wrote:

Joel, there are plenty of boats your size on lifts. Will we be seeing you
on the Magothy soon?

Chris Price
Pradel
35 Mk I

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*Subject: *Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?

There's a 42 foot power boat on it now!


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Ron Casciato wrote:

> ** ** ** **
>
> I’d be very careful to make sure the lift is rated for your
> boat..vis-a vis the J80………I’ll bet there’s at least 10,000 lbs
> difference between that boat and your C&C 35/3.
>
> ** **
>
> That’s one hell of a lift..
>
> ** **
>
> Ron C.
>
> Impromptu 38MKIIC.’77
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Nylander
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 1:34 PM
> *To:* **cnc-list@cnc-list.com**
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> The guys in Texas (and others) use Hydro lifts to get their boats
> almost out of the water all the time. The J-80 I raced on for a couple of
> years had this when he was in Texas. Doesn't seem to be a problem
> - it would be like having your boat in a travel lift.
>
>  
>
> Look at Annapolis Yacht Club's yard. There are plenty of dry sailed boats
> there. The only difference is they are on trailers which support the keel
> and yours would be just hanging there, but with a bunch of big bolts.
> and the dry sailed boats are hoisted in and out every week. We dry sailed
> the J-80 for two years - out and in every week with a crane and a single
> strap. Going to do the same with a J-24 this year.
>
>  
>
> Gary
>
> St. Michaels
>
>  - Original Message - 
>
> *From:* Joel Aronson  
>
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 11:19 AM
>
> *Subject:* Stus-List 35/3 on a lift?
>
> ** **
>
> I'm looking at a house with a dock and a lift big enough to handle my
> boat.  It would not get the entire keel out of the water, but could
> certainly get the hull out.   
>
> ** **
>
> any issues dry-sailing a keelboat?  Should I sell the lift and keep the
> boat wet?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Joel 
>
> 35/3
>
> Annapolis
> 301 541 8551 
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Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

[dwight veinot]

Good one Mike.I got a chuckle from that.recommend these guys get better
clutches or better lines

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt,
Mike
Sent: April 29, 2013 3:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

Yeah - having that finger jammed in there all day really makes it grip
better!

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Walt
Dickie
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

On a friend's boat equipped with Spinlocks we've discovered that we can stop
a lot of slippage by pushing down on the cam with your finger (making it
engage the line more forcefully) as you close the lever. Seems to make a big
difference.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don
Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

I would suspect the cams. You can easily inspect them for wear. I've had to
replace the cams several times. When you buy the cam, the spring is included
since it's part of the assembly.

You might also inspect the bottom plate, but it seems to wear less, and it
not as critical.

 

Don Wagner

C&C 41 CB

Der Baron 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Edd Schillay   

To: JOHN D IRVIN   ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:42 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

John, 

 

Chances are it's the springs, but might as well replace both. Spinlock sells
a wealth of replacement parts that are pretty easy to install. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log 
Website

 

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, JOHN D IRVIN  wrote:

 

Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III. They are
starting to slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers can provide.
Change the springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions pppreciated. John Irvin
BYC Ottawa

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Chuck S]

Sander, I looked at the pictures and I'm amazed you can imagine what the 
finished boat would ever look like. 
Everything's been removed! Where's the toe rail? There must be a barrel of nuts 
and bolts somewhere covered in caulk. 
It would be easier to build a new boat from scratch than tackle that old hulk. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
- Original Message -
From: "Sander van der Moolen"  
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:06:31 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself 

Okay, just to make the topic complete, click the link below to download a 
zip file with pictures. 
This is only the hull, I didn't take pictures of the rest of it. 

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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[dwight veinot]

I never found the C&C 24 to be a particularly good pointer, but in light air
the boat is pretty good for her number.  The tack angle will vary depending
on wind strength and headsail but in light air with a good No. 1 headsail
maybe close to 100 degrees.

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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Fluder
Sent: April 29, 2013 1:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

 

Good job Orren!

Light air is our advantage - I was asked once if I was motoring when passing
by a bigger guy

Since you say that your boat points well: can you tell what is your tacking
angle in relatively flat water in about 10knts of true wind? (no pinching)


Kind regards

Marek Fluder

C&C24 "Emilie" Hamilton Harbour, Ontario

 

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:33 AM, ok  wrote:

I've been sailing my new 1978 C&C 24 in Mobile Bay, Beer Can races each week
since this season started.  So far I've been doing a lot better than my
previous boat, usually placing around 4th-8th.   This weekend we had our big
regatta, the Dauphin Island Race.  I did fairly well placing 2nd in my class
and 3rd in fleet.  A light air run on the start got me ahead of the big pack
into clean air, which quickly flipped 180 degrees into a close reach all the
way to the finish.  Passed a lot of big and fast boats.  My C&C 24 points so
well!  Pretty happy with my little boat right now.  

 

Link to results here:

http://55thdauphinislandrace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/2013_DI_PortsNon
SpinResults.pdf

 

My boat is class F, East Wind

 

Thanks for the racing tips I got earlier from this list!

Orren


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Stus-List first cruise

[Della Barba, Joe]

We are looking to do Rock Hall next weekend and then we'll be at CRYC the 
weekend after to do RC for a Laser/Comet race. Any C&Cers are welcome to meet 
up with us at either place.
On another note, I was sailing on Sunday with a decent breeze and letting my 11 
year old son steer. A fishing boat went by about 100 yards off yelling f-you 
and making obscene gestures. WTF?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Stus-List First Cruise

[Della Barba, Joe]

We are looking to do Rock Hall next weekend and then we’ll be at CRYC the 
weekend after to do RC for a Laser/Comet race. Any C&Cers are welcome to meet 
up with us at either place.
On another note, I was sailing on Sunday with a decent breeze and letting my 11 
year old son steer. A fishing boat went by about 100 yards off yelling f-you 
and making obscene gestures. WTF?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I

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Re: Stus-List First Cruise

[Joel Aronson]

I'll be on a J30 in the NOOD race Friday and Sunday.  Day sailing Saturday
from Annapolis.  I also had an unpleasant encounter with a guy trolling.
 He went right in front of me and was pissed when I caught a line.  There
were so many boats fishing under the Bay Bridge I didn't try to go under it!

Joel
35/3
The Office
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 7:32 PM, "Della Barba, Joe" 
wrote:

We are looking to do Rock Hall next weekend and then we’ll be at CRYC the
weekend after to do RC for a Laser/Comet race. Any C&Cers are welcome to
meet up with us at either place.

On another note, I was sailing on Sunday with a decent breeze and letting
my 11 year old son steer. A fishing boat went by about 100 yards off
yelling f-you and making obscene gestures. WTF?



*Joe Della Barba*

*Coquina*

*C&C 35 MK I*

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Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

[sam . c . salter]

I've got Spinlock clutches. I think they are the best on the market.  Your doing something wrong!  sam :-) 403-617-6280From: dwight veinotSent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

















Good one Mike…I got a chuckle from
that…recommend these guys get better clutches or better lines

 



Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS



 









From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
Sent: April 29, 2013 3:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock
Clutches



 

Yeah -
having that finger jammed in there all day really makes it grip better!

 







From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Walt Dickie
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:40
PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock
Clutches

On
a friend’s boat equipped with Spinlocks we’ve discovered that we
can stop a lot of slippage by pushing down on the cam with your finger (making
it engage the line more forcefully) as you close the lever. Seems to make a big
difference.

 





From: CnC-List
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On
Behalf Of Don Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013
10:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock
Clutches





 



I would suspect the cams. You can
easily inspect them for wear. I've had to replace the cams several times. When
you buy the cam, the spring is included since it's part of the assembly.





You might also inspect the bottom
plate, but it seems to wear less, and it not as critical.





 





Don Wagner





C&C 41 CB





Der Baron 





 







- Original Message - 





From: Edd Schillay 





To: JOHN D IRVIN
; cnc-list@cnc-list.com






Sent: Wednesday,
April 24, 2013 10:42 AM





Subject: Re:
Stus-List Spinlock Clutches





 



John, 



 





Chances are it's the
springs, but might as well replace both. Spinlock sells a wealth of replacement
parts that are pretty easy to install. 







 





All
the best,





 





Edd





 





 





Edd M. Schillay





Starship
Enterprise





C&C
37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B





City Island, NY 







Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log
Website





 





On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:25
AM, JOHN D IRVIN  wrote:



 







Firefly has 6
(2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III. They are starting to
slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers can provide. Change the
springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions pppreciated. John Irvin BYC Ottawa







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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Bob Moriarty]

Sander,

Just curious. Would the CE label be expensive to acquire on a stripped out
hull? What if the other parts arrived elsewhere in the EU? Could they be
inexpensively added after the CE label was acquired?

Bob M
Ox 33-1
Jax, FL


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Sander van der Moolen
wrote:

> Sounds like an adventure!
>
> Seriously though, the shipping, taxes and mandatory CE label would be twice
> the price of the boat. Easy.
> Gotta love import/export regulation :)
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Security question

[Colin Kilgour]

I rarely lock my boat, but if I'm away for an extended time, I will.
The lazarette is always unlocked and the anchor is always in the
roller (or on the bottom of the ocean).

Also, if I'm in dodgier places, I'd lock it.  Annapolis during October
(see Joe's comment) or certain poorer Caribbean anchorages where the
locals might be tempted .  I wouldn't include St. Martin in that list
as I would view SXM as totally safe.  Places like Wallilabou in St.
Vincent, or Castries or Soufriere in St. Lucia come to mind in this
regard.

Cheers
Colin




On 4/28/13, Rick Brass  wrote:
> Dennis,
>
>
>
> Along the East Coast from the Carolinas north, or maybe it’s just for
> offshore and coastal coverage, it is typical for the insurance companies to
> specify a location and date range that is the southernmost area you can take
> your boat during Hurricane season and still have coverage or not incur
> additional premiums.
>
>
>
> Since you’d need to take your boat north to about Memphis, I’m presuming you
> have some other type of provision for Hurricane season in your area.
>
>
>
> My policy specifies 35 North (roughly Oriental NC) before October 1st. . But
> I know from a local boat owner that Zurich Insurance specifies the
> Virginia/NC state line before November 1st (which, I’m sure you know, is now
> the official end of the season) and charges a 10% additional premium if
> you’re south of the line and increases deductable to 20% of coverage in the
> event of damage in a named storm before then.
>
>
>
> The two marinas closest to me each get 2 or 3 boats a year than are brought
> north and hauled around June to retain coverage during Hurricane season.
>
>
>
> I suppose after Sandy that the insurance companies will move the line north
> to about Boston when it comes time for renewal again.
>
>
>
> Rick Brass
>
> Washington, NC
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis
> C.
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:12 PM
> To: j...@dellabarba.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Security question
>
>
>
> Joe,
>
>
>
> Please explain insurance deadline. End of hurricane season?
>
>
>
> Dennis C.
>
> Touché 35-1 #83
>
> Mandeville, LA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Stus-List 2013 West Coast Rendezvous

[Jim Watts]

This is the letter that went to all the West Coast C&C owners we have in
our database, sorry if it's duplicated...for those new to the west coast
group, pay attention, dammit.



A warm spring welcome to our fellow C&C owners! We have had some queries
already regarding the 2013 C&C Rendezvous, so here’s the lowdown.

The 2013 Rendezvous will have a different format this year, for several
reasons. The core organizers of the last few rdv’s are stepping down for
this year to have more time on our boats. Frank & Deanna, on
*Felicity,*will be up in the Broughtons and/or Desolation for much of
the summer,
while Anne and Jim, on *Paradigm Shift*, are planning a 3-month
circumnavigation of Vancouver Island. Margaret Ketchen, on *Cardhu*, will
help with the organizing for a less structured event and we hope to have
other volunteers to make the fun happen. We are asking for more
participation from everyone for this year’s event to be even better.

There will be no formal pre-registration with the organizers this year, but
*each boat* *will have to be registered with the marina* to have their
space reserved. All the information you need to do this is on the web site:
http://members.shaw.ca/cncrdv/ There will be event registration at the dock
with a nominal fee to cover facilities rental.

Yacht Sales West is not going to be sponsoring the *Friday night wine meet
& greet* this year due to other obligations, so it’s going to be BYOB plus
an appie to share with the crowd.

As a result of the new lean team, there will be *no formal dinner* this
year on Saturday night, but the Pavilion will be available for those who
want to join in a pot luck dessert frenzy. The marina store has many
delicious things to choose from if you don’t want to make *crepes Suzette
au beurre d’orange* on board. Everyone is invited to arrive at the pavilion
at 7:30 PM for the annual announcements and prize draws.

 We hope to have volunteers to run some fun events like the blindfold
dinghy races, and one or two to organize a Tech Talk. Please let us know if
you’d like to be involved.

We’re going to miss you guys!


-- 
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
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Re: Stus-List C&C 24 Dauphin Island Race Results

[Marek Fluder]

Orren,

Tacking angle would be the difference between compass bearings on opposite
tacks when close hauled.
Make sure you have a decent speed and power (no pinching) on one tack -
take compass bearing, tack and measure the bearing again once you achieve
decent speed and power and all is stable. Calculate the difference. You
should be in the neighbourhood of 100 as Dwight have mentioned.
If you will get below 100 I'll get jealous :)


Marek Fluder
C&C24 "Emilie" Hamilton Harbour**, **Ontario


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Bob Bob  wrote:

> Hi Marek,  Not quite sure of the tack angle.  I'll ask my pro sailing
> friend who's been sailing with me.
>
> Thanks,
> Orren
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Stus-List Feel good video of sailing

[Chuck S]

This is dated, but I still enjoy watching it over and over. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWINygISxDE 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Atlantic City, NJ 
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Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

[dwight veinot]

I prefer Lewmar clutches

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
sam.c.sal...@gmail.com
Sent: April 29, 2013 10:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

I've got Spinlock clutches. 

I think they are the best on the market.  Your doing something wrong! 

sam :-) 403-617-6280


From: dwight veinot

Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:23 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

Good one Mike.I got a chuckle from that.recommend these guys get better
clutches or better lines

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt,
Mike
Sent: April 29, 2013 3:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

Yeah - having that finger jammed in there all day really makes it grip
better!

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Walt
Dickie
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:40 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

On a friend's boat equipped with Spinlocks we've discovered that we can stop
a lot of slippage by pushing down on the cam with your finger (making it
engage the line more forcefully) as you close the lever. Seems to make a big
difference.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Don
Wagner
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:05 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

I would suspect the cams. You can easily inspect them for wear. I've had to
replace the cams several times. When you buy the cam, the spring is included
since it's part of the assembly.

You might also inspect the bottom plate, but it seems to wear less, and it
not as critical.

 

Don Wagner

C&C 41 CB

Der Baron 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Edd Schillay   

To: JOHN D IRVIN   ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:42 AM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

 

John, 

 

Chances are it's the springs, but might as well replace both. Spinlock sells
a wealth of replacement parts that are pretty easy to install. 

 

All the best,

 

Edd

 

 

Edd M. Schillay

Starship Enterprise

C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

City Island, NY 

Starship Enterprise's   Captain's Log
Website

 

On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:25 AM, JOHN D IRVIN  wrote:

 

Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III. They are
starting to slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers can provide.
Change the springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions pppreciated. John Irvin
BYC Ottawa

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Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

[Sander van der Moolen]

Hi Chuck, 

I did see the toe rails, they're under a rack where the mast is also stored.
I didn't lie when I said everything was removed :)
Just counting the number of screw holes in the deck would be a painstaking
task lol.

On a more serious note though, the more I think about the poor shape this
boat is in, the more I want to punch the former owner on the nose.
Just, why?? Why leave a boat like this? :(

Sander


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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Sander, I looked at the pictures and I'm amazed you can imagine what the
finished boat would ever look like. 
Everything's been removed! Where's the toe rail? There must be a barrel of
nuts and bolts somewhere covered in caulk. 
It would be easier to build a new boat from scratch than tackle that old
hulk. 


Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
- Original Message -
From: "Sander van der Moolen" 
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:06:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself 

Okay, just to make the topic complete, click the link below to download a
zip file with pictures. 
This is only the hull, I didn't take pictures of the rest of it. 

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