Hi Dave and Wrenches,

So bringing this back to the thread after Dave and I brought it off-list (see below).

My InSight2.0 access to remote changes now works (through the configurations page) though I'm not 100% sure what the fix was.  I had tried over a dozen times with the same credentials information prior to that and it did not work over the course of a month - giving me the 'DEVICE NOT READY, OR INVALID CREDENTIALS, PLEASE TRY AGAIN screen when I would try to change a parameter for any given device.

The fix is either (only things I can think it could possibly be):

1.  Last week - when I was on-site and connected to the Gateway directly through the local network -  I added a USER and INSTALLER level access.  For simplicity I gave them the same password. Prior to that I had not gone into that screen and just had accepted the ADMIN level as the only level.

OR

2.  I came home from that day to the thread that others were having the same problem (Mac Lewis) and Dave (per below) said he had talked to Schnieder and they couldn't reproduce the problem.  So he asked me to take screen shots and provide the credentials so they could test.  I was in the process of making up those screen shots when it started to work.  So my only thought here is that through some other ticket or tech than Dave is aware of - someone at Schneider changed something since they were hearing of the problem.

If it's not the latter my theory is that particular Access password screen is set up to be for INSTALLER OR USER level and not ADMIN and my adding of those two - though it didn't work right away when I returned to remote testing as perhaps the InSight database took some time to register my change - adding those now let me in.

Same is true for the iPhone App - it now let's us in and that one specifically asks for the USER Password and has no option for INSTALLER OR ADMIN.

So Mac - try that and tell us if it works. To better test - unlike me - give those levels different passwords and see if  you can get in with one and not the others.

Or Sandra - perhaps  you can shed some light - or liaison with your tech folks to prove or disprove my theory?

Onward,

Jeff










Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote on 2/3/20 8:25 AM:

No Sir I did not send them anything yet as I was waiting for your reply.

I will forward what you did and thanks. I am thinking somehow the Admin level and your changes to user and installer might have done something? Thx!  I would appreciate it if you would post out to the list that it is working for you!

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On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 20:12:38 -0800, Jeff Clearwater <je...@villagepowerdesign.com> wrote:

Hey Dave,

So I went to those screens to take screen shots to show you what's been happening for over a month now (tried like a dozen or more times) and voila now it works!

So I'm thinking that someone else beat me to it since you talked to them and they fixed it over the weekend?  I'm 100% positive I entered the same info I have been entering all along.

My only other possible change is that last week during a site visit I enabled a USER level and INSTALLER level access in addition to the ADMIN.  I set them all to the same password so in case that password screen was looking for a different permission level it would work.  It didn't right when I returned to remote testing but perhaps it took some time for the database to catch up?

So not sure which one of those two is responsible for the fix but in my mind it has to be one of the two - I hope that helps :)

Let me know if you find out.

Best,

Jeff


Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar wrote on 2/2/20 8:44 AM:

Hi Jeff,

You are getting a screen like I attached right?

So your problem is you can't make changes on Insight2. When you attempt a change, like to turn on/off the SCP button beep you get the error wrong password. The password asked for is the Gateway PW. The gateway PW works on gateway?

If all of this is true I will need the PW of the gateway and the URN.

Sorry to be overthinking this but this is not easy and there is no room from creativity.


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On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 17:24:49 -0800, Jeff Clearwater <je...@villagepowerdesign.com> wrote:

    It's happening to me.  Would love to solve it.
    Thanks

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Feb 1, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
    <offgridso...@sti.net <mailto:offgridso...@sti.net>> wrote:

        Wrenches,

        I was told by Schneider that they would like engineering to
        take a peak at a system where Insight2 is giving the
        password error for the Gateway.

        " If you have any customers facing this issue who are
        willing to share their gateway password with us, we can
        troubleshoot what is going on.  When we last looked at this,
        it looked like their password was incorrect.  (it is hard to
        tell because the gateway stores a hash of the password and
        not the password itself, so it is not possible to find out
        the password that the gateway has).  Once connectivity is
        established to the cloud, we have not seen an instance in
        the lab where we cannot communicate with the gateway through
        the cloud."

         So drop me an email and I can try and hook you up.  Thx. 
        --Dave

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        On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:45:59 -0800, Dave Angelini Offgrid
        Solar <offgridso...@sti.net <mailto:offgridso...@sti.net>>
        wrote:

            I really have not had any problems with support (monday
            thru friday they answer the phone) or the equipment.
            Sorry to not be very helpful. You can email me and I can
            attempt to help.

            FYI  I just changed the SCP button beep in the country
            of Ghana from Mariposa. Client wondered how that got
            turned on Wink The gateway system and Insight2 work as
            advertised. I have heard similar problems over the years
            with Optics and I know you guys have also.

            Some folks should not have the need for this monitoring
            and if they do, they need to devote the time before they
            get clients involved. My humble opinion.  FRIDAY !


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            don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail
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            On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 12:16:09 -0700, Ray
            <r...@solarray.com <mailto:r...@solarray.com>> wrote:

                We inherited a Schneider system recently and have
                been attempting to add remote monitoring etc.  I
                have an electrical engineer on my team with
                significant com experience.  Our opinion to date:

                1) The Schneider system is the most complicated,
                kludgy solution I've ever encountered with separate
                boxes and cables running amok everywhere: certainly
                an inelegant solution.

                2) The Manuals do not fully cover all of the setup,
                so Wrench comments chastising others for contacting
                Schneider with basic questions covered in the manual
                are way off base.

                3) Schneider tech support is some of the worst right
                now: we need field support when we are on site,
                instead, we get a call back a week later.  Only
                SMA's lack of support for the Sunny Islands is
                worse. (they don't call back at all....)

                4) When we do finally get a call back a week later,
                they can't answer any of our questions, and can't
                seem to forward us to anyone who can.

                My conclusion:

                The entire Schneider SCADA package is way over
                priced, thrown together, not fully integrated, over
                promised, released before it was ready, and comes
                with virtually no SCADA support for installation or
                trouble shooting after.  At least I feel better
                knowing its not just us.

                Compare this to something like the Bluetooth enabled
                SOC monitoring that comes FREE with LiFe blue
                batteries, and it tells me Schneider needs to just
                hit /Delete /and start over.

                In the 21st century, we have smart phones with apps
                that connect automatically, equipment that is
                actually plug and play, and software that is so
                intuitive you don't need the manual, much less call
                anyone. As I've said going back to the Outback Mate
                days,  offgrid solar SCADA is at least a decade
                behind the rest of the world.

                Ray Walters
                Remote Solar
                303 505-8760

                On 1/31/20 10:18 AM, Jeff Clearwater wrote:

                    Hi Mac and Luke and Wrenches,

                    I'm having the exact same issue.  It hasn't been
                    a pressing problem right away as I've been
                    having access to the site but I was hoping my
                    last visit where I added Users and Admins and
                    Installers would fix it due to permissions
                    levels.  But in Admins and Installers I still
                    get the same thing:

                    "DEVICE NOT READY OR INVALID CREDENTIALS, PLEASE
                    TRY AGAIN"

                    And like Mac I can log in and make changes when
                    I'm on site using the direct interface but not
                    through InSight2.0.

                    I've also checked numerous times that I'm using
                    the correct Gateway credentials.

                    Sandra?

                    Thanks,

                    Jeff

                    Luke Christy wrote on 1/31/20 6:44 AM:

                        Hi Mac,
                        I have a very similar issue to yours with a
                        customer's remote cabin and the need to be
                        able to monitor and change settings
                        remotely. I installed my first Gateway with
                        a brand new Conext 4048 and an MPPT-150
                        controller and I'm having the exact same
                        trouble and am getting the same error
                        message. Before installation, I actually
                        thought I had verified that I could make
                        settings changes through the internet on a
                        bench test using the admin password, etc,
                        however, once the system was installed I
                        haven't been able to get it to work despite
                        verifying my passwords and making a long
                        trip for a return visit to the site.
                        Perhaps someone else has some insight?
                        I'm glad to know that this may be a larger
                        issue.
                        -Luke
                        Luke Christy

                        NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional

                            On Jan 31, 2020, at 07:10, Mac Lewis
                            <maclew...@gmail.com> wrote:

                            Hi Wrenches,
                            I am working with Schneider on this but
                            I haven't heard back in a few days so I
                            thought I'd put it out to the list to
                            see if anyone else has worked through this.
                            We recently installed our first Conext
                            Gateway in hopes of getting better
                            monitoring and control through Insight 2
                            portal.  We installed it on an XW 5548,
                            AGS, Batt Mon, HV-MPPT charge controller
                            ~ 4 years old.
                            For some reason, we cannot make changes
                            to the system via the portal.  The
                            monitoring is much better but the
                            control isn't functional.  When I make a
                            parameter change, it asks for the
                            username and password but then gives
                            this error every time:
                            I verified that I am entering the
                            Gateway admin username and the new
                            password that I assigned.  I can log
                            into it locally, directly through the
                            Access Pt functionality.
                            Any suggestions?  Schneider isn't
                            responding and its a snow cat ride to
                            get into the site.
                            Thanks
--
                            Mac Lewis

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