I've had a tough time with this aspect of long rides, paleo or not,
and tend to get a "sweet stomach" from gatorade, energy gels, blocks,
etc, but on longer rides I bonk if I don't eat, which ruins the ride
(or hike or ski, or whatever) and  presents a dilemma.  I tend to do
best eating eggs, sausage and a small serving of potatoes for
breakfast and then eating "food" along the way, be it pizza or a
sandwich with fruit, especially apples, and maybe some carrot sticks
and cucumbers.  I'd probably eat meatloaf and mashed potatoes if my
mom were to meet me along the way.  I'm going to try grilled cheese
sandwiches this winter.  The pizza and sandwich are not paleo for
sure, but I'm more interested in avoiding the bonk while not getting
nauseous, and I don't know how it matters when you're burning 5,000
calories on the ride.  I'm obviously not a nutritionist and perhaps
there is a precise way to dose yourself with pure paleo food and not
bonk but in the make-it-up-as-I-go-along world this is the best I've
come up with.  I usually do not eat anything on rides shorter than 3
hours which seems to work well for me.

My brother-in-law developed the Pro-Bar which is one of the more
palatable bars (lots of fat, seeds, etc.) and I keep one in my saddle
bag as a back up.  I asked him about a digestible energy source for
long events and he said he tells cross-country skiers and distance
cyclists to take a baked potato in a ziplock with a little olive oil
and salt.  You could take it a step further and make it a yam or a
sweet potato.  Put it in a rubbermaid container in your saddle bag.
Each potato comes out around 200 calories and slightly less than 50
grams of easily digested carbohydrate.  Its gotta taste better than
the crap they serve at the aid stations at most century rides and Mark
Sisson seems to be generally approving of potatoes as an energy
source.

The real challenge for me is the day after the long ride.  The day of
the ride my appetite tends to be suppressed by the activity
(especially if its hot)  but it comes back with a vengeance the next
day which makes diet compliance difficult.  I spent today fantasizing
about a Margherita pizza for instance and I started salivating just
reading the post above about jamon with manchego on baguette.  Still
working on tweaking the post long ride menu.

On Aug 15, 8:29 pm, charlie <cl_v...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well you have to ask yourself the real question.....that is, If you
> are eating "paleo" are you exercising paleo? Unless you are riding at
> a lower pace (similar to the output of a walker) you will need to
> consume a higher amount of carbohydrate. Fruit and veggies are the
> natural thing for that. If you are riding 4-12 hours, eat fats,
> protein, veggies, nuts, fruit.... just like when you are not riding.
> This assumes you are trying to burn fat as you ride. Unless you
> continually 'top off' with carbs you'll soon be out of glucose anyway
> and will have to burn fat for energy. I think they call it 'the bonk'.
> I've just come to the conclusion that I don't like riding that long or
> that hard. If I can't finish my riding in a 5-6 hour day, I'm going to
> do the sensible thing and take a rest, eat some food and go to sleep
> until the next day. The best post ride food in my mind would be the
> same thing I eat normally just a little more of it.  For protein, eggs
> or fish seem to digest better for me than a steak but the fat in the
> steak satiates better after exercising. I also like the way I feel
> eating primarily vegetables and meat. During a ride you ask........I
> eat fruit or nuts or berries maybe even a little turkey jerky or a
> teriyaki stick. Most of my riding these days however is two hours at a
> time or less so I rarely eat when I ride and just drink some water.
> I've also taken to riding my new SimpleOne and I've changed the way I
> ride and do more gut busting climbing coupled with easy spinning and
> coasting and some high velocity spinning for the fast twitch fibers.
> Kind of a interval type of thing like when I commute to work from
> light to light. On the few longer rides I've done I slow my pace quite
> a bit and plod along.
>
> On Aug 14, 5:30 pm, reynoldslugs <be...@perrylaw.net> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> > Sorry to resuscitate a dying thread, but here goes:
>
> > I like the way the Taubes/Paleo makes me feel - -won't rehash.
> > Problem I have is long rides - - 4 to 12 hours.  I have not figured
> > out the "Taubesian" foods work to keep you going during the ride, or
> > how to handle that feeling of post-ride starvation.
>
> > What do you eat during the ride, and how do you handle the post-ride
> > meal?
>
> > I don't think I should be putting Candy Bars in my Candy Bar Bag, but
> > hard boiled eggs and raw broccoli aren't getting me through the long
> > days.
>
> > Any suggestions?
>
> > Thanks.  I know this post is not really Rivendell related, and the
> > "Candy Bar Bag" humor is weak.
>
> > RL

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