So I'll clarify.. For me at 210lbs 5 lbs is not noticed on climbs or the feel of the bike. Same bike same wheels etc so maybe you are more sensitive to weight.
Pat it really wasnt directed at you. I lost say 3 mph going to steel from an aggressive race bike. Had lots of fun .. Just because I'm not sprinting at 30 mph and averaging 20 plus doesn't mean I'm crawling along either.. Had I wanted that race experience I would NEVER buy a Rivendell. Just saying Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2011, at 6:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: > ???? Each to his own. > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote: >> The cost of that two to three miles per hour.. >> 700x23 tires on areo wheels >> Bars a fist and a half below seat >> Special shoes >> >> So one I wear everyday cloths and the other I spend 20 minutes changing >> airing tires fixing flats etc >> >> Been there done that.. Nod thanks next >> >> Kelly >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:21 PM, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> for some though that 3 mph is 16 or 13 mph, or about 23 minutes >>> diference over the 29 miles - the difference between time a shower or >>> no shower on your lunch break or before work? and still having time >>> to ride 29 miles. I would take the speed over a shorter ride, >>> especally if 8 of the miles in the middle of the ride were out in the >>> country after you escape the clutches of suburbia and then have to re- >>> enter >>> >>> Rock on Patrick - voice of speed >>> >>> Bikes get us from pont a to point b faster than walking. That often >>> why we ride them, otherwise just walk. You do not have to be a racer >>> boy all the time, but the talk around here lately has me wondering if >>> riv should be sponsering low speed tech trials for god's sake. Maybe >>> they should set up cones in the lot and run a reverse race with points >>> off for putting a foot down, the guy who can stay up longest spining >>> 22 - 36 (MEGA) on flat ground wins!! >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> 5 lbs means very little from my experience. So the one built as a >>>> commuter .. Same tires wheels geometry bars handlebar height? >>>> >>>> Add 5 lbs in water bottle on go fast and doubt you'll notice much. >>>> >>>> But if all you're interested in is speed have fun. A 2 to 3 mph average >>>> speed difference for me is nothing. >>>> >>>> So what Rivendell did you build to 17ish pounds? >>>> >>>> Kelly >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:41 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I just got back from a nice if brief-ish 1 hour ride on the '99 Riv >>>>> gofast, newly equipped with pretty Phil front hub (I have decided not >>>>> to replace the computer -- just yet, anyway, but I guesstimate that I >>>>> covered, easily, 23 miles over rolling, mostly suburban terrain). >>>>> Anyway, I deliberately went out of my way to climb some steepish, 1/2 >>>>> mile long hills, mostly standing in the 75" gear, and blow me down, if >>>>> I sped up those hills like ... like .... like ... Oh! Like Bartali, >>>>> shifting into a *higher* gear at the bottom of a steep climb, turning >>>>> with a sneer and glare at his competition, and leaving them in his >>>>> dust. Sortof. >>>> >>>>> Anyway, the difference between this gofast that, now, without a >>>>> computer, weighs a featherlite 17 3/4 lb, and the almost identical but >>>>> built as a commuter '03, is about 5 lb, and I certainly can tell the >>>>> difference on the hills. >>>> >>>>> Just so you know. >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Albuquerque, NM >>>>> For professional resumes, contact >>>>> Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted >>>>> text - >>>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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