> I certainly don't worry about butted or straight gauge spokes but an
> extra 10 lbs on the bike makes the day a lot less fun on a group
> ride.

Or an extra 10 lbs can make the day, if it's the right 10 lbs.
Chubbier tires to minimize flats, an extra water bottle, lots'o'food
(my favorite!) and of course a selection clothing and some place to
carrry it - I can see 10 lbs extra in that stuff.  OK, there's
probably a camera & phone, couple of maps, too much change, the odd
tool that I could probably ditch.  But if I was in a hurry I wouldn't
be on a bike.

Keep those reports coming Patrick; and don't forget the climate date
next time!

dougP


On Feb 15, 2:47 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> To me it comes down to the purpose of my ride. Commuting/training
> solo ... weight doesn't matter. A fun day out riding with friends.. it
> matters just enough that I can stay comfortably with the group.
> I certainly don't worry about butted or straight gauge spokes but an
> extra 10 lbs on the bike makes the day a lot less fun on a group
> ride.
>
> ~Mike
>
> On Feb 15, 2:30 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The voice, OK, but the legs?
>
> > For me, speed is not usually to get somewhere faster, it's because
> > riding fast has its own pleasures, and riding fast on a bike that
> > responds very well to efforts to ride fast adds to this pleasure.
>
> > One advantage, in the last two days, of removing the computer is that
> > I don't see a readout telling me that I am at a speed lower than the
> > theoretical average that I think I ought to maintain; this is
> > especially true in the first few miles. I think this allows me to warm
> > up properly and start pushing only when I feel warmed up. Anyway,
> > we'll see...
>
> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:21 PM, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > for some though that 3 mph is 16 or 13 mph, or about 23 minutes
> > > diference over the 29 miles - the difference between time a shower or
> > > no shower on your lunch break or before work?  and still having time
> > > to ride 29 miles.  I would take the speed over a shorter ride,
> > > especally if 8 of the miles in the middle of the ride were out in the
> > > country after you escape the clutches of suburbia and then have to re-
> > > enter
>
> > > Rock on Patrick - voice of speed
>
> > > Bikes get us from pont a to point b faster than walking.  That often
> > > why we ride them, otherwise just walk.  You do not have to be a racer
> > > boy all the time, but the talk around here lately has me wondering if
> > > riv should be sponsering low speed tech trials for god's sake.  Maybe
> > > they should set up cones in the lot and run a reverse race with points
> > > off for putting a foot down, the guy who can stay up longest spining
> > > 22 - 36 (MEGA) on flat ground wins!!
>
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