The cost of that two to three miles per hour..
700x23 tires on areo wheels
Bars a fist and a half below seat
Special shoes 

So one I wear everyday cloths and the other I spend 20 minutes changing airing 
tires fixing flats etc 

Been there done that.. Nod thanks next

Kelly

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On Feb 15, 2011, at 4:21 PM, rperks <perks....@gmail.com> wrote:

> for some though that 3 mph is 16 or 13 mph, or about 23 minutes
> diference over the 29 miles - the difference between time a shower or
> no shower on your lunch break or before work?  and still having time
> to ride 29 miles.  I would take the speed over a shorter ride,
> especally if 8 of the miles in the middle of the ride were out in the
> country after you escape the clutches of suburbia and then have to re-
> enter
> 
> Rock on Patrick - voice of speed
> 
> Bikes get us from pont a to point b faster than walking.  That often
> why we ride them, otherwise just walk.  You do not have to be a racer
> boy all the time, but the talk around here lately has me wondering if
> riv should be sponsering low speed tech trials for god's sake.  Maybe
> they should set up cones in the lot and run a reverse race with points
> off for putting a foot down, the guy who can stay up longest spining
> 22 - 36 (MEGA) on flat ground wins!!
> 
> Rob
> 
> On Feb 15, 2:04 pm, Kelly Sleeper <tkslee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 5 lbs means very little from my experience.   So the one built as a commuter 
>> .. Same tires wheels geometry bars handlebar height?
>> 
>> Add 5 lbs in water bottle on go fast and doubt you'll notice much.
>> 
>> But if all you're interested in is speed have fun.   A 2 to 3 mph average 
>> speed difference for me is nothing.
>> 
>> So what Rivendell did you build to 17ish pounds?
>> 
>> Kelly
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 2:41 PM, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I just got back from a nice if brief-ish 1 hour ride on the '99 Riv
>>> gofast, newly equipped with pretty Phil front hub (I have decided not
>>> to replace the computer -- just yet, anyway, but I guesstimate that I
>>> covered, easily, 23 miles over rolling, mostly suburban terrain).
>>> Anyway, I deliberately went out of my way to climb some steepish, 1/2
>>> mile long hills, mostly standing in the 75" gear, and blow me down, if
>>> I sped up those hills like ... like .... like ... Oh! Like Bartali,
>>> shifting into a *higher* gear at the bottom of a steep climb, turning
>>> with a sneer and glare at his competition, and leaving them in his
>>> dust. Sortof.
>> 
>>> Anyway, the difference between this gofast that, now, without a
>>> computer, weighs a featherlite 17 3/4 lb, and the almost identical but
>>> built as a commuter '03, is about 5 lb, and I certainly can tell the
>>> difference on the hills.
>> 
>>> Just so you know.
>> 
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