Ah. You describe it as I've imagined it. Sounds wonderful. Alas, I
fear for my knees, being a "person of size". And I don't think I'll
subject a poor SimpleOne to an experience that only a double-top-tuber
should have.

Sigh.

It's not like I don't enjoy my (relatively) heavy, geared, lusciously-
comfortable Hillborne!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Feb 16, 9:17 am, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well put. As for climbing on fixed gears, it is hard, but it has made
> hills enjoyable for the most part rather than a chore as I found it
> (note: I am speaking only of my own reactions) with derailleurs. In
> fact, as long as I keep the climbing reasonable -- steep but no more
> than 1 mile, longer but more gradual -- I find it the most fun part of
> cycling fixed. It is the challenge (doing more with less), the feel
> (that inertial feel), and pacing oneself (knowing how and when to back
> off, when to stand and when to sit).
>
> Now, I repeat that I ride only short distances: 30 miles is a long
> ride (as I told Grant years ago when I commissioned my first custom in
> 1994 -- his response was, "It *is* a long ride") and a normal ride is
> a 22 m round trip riding between my house and my mother's (I often
> work from her house to keep her company) with flats, hills and wind. I
> know Eric has done PBP on a Quickbeam, but that is another dimension
> altogether. But for this sort of distance and conditions, fixed is
> perfect and light fixies are fun!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:13 AM, CycloFiend <cyclofi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > The only thing that I'll add to the discussion is that we're talking about
> > pounds here.  Which is healthy. I've been part of discussions when folks
> > were arguing grams.  Non-ironically.  Y'know...mocking folks who still ran
> > 150g mtb handlebars when you caould shave 35-40 grams by throwing another
> > hundred bucks at it.
>
> > I don't think that anyone can argue that weight doesn't make a difference on
> > a climb. The important thing is whether that difference matters. I don't
> > have it at ready reference, but I recall in a catalog (mighta been a Reader)
> > GP writing about the original Banana Bag - a seatbag which was gloriously
> > larger than most anything you could find at the time.  He wrote about how a
> > saddlebag that let you carry something more than a spare tube and an energy
> > gel was a much more sensible thing. How you'd be a lot more comfortable on
> > the way down the mountain if you had real food and another layer stowed
> > along. It was a pretty radical position at the time.
>
> > There are plenty of Riv owners and riders who go plenty fast. If someone has
> > the means and interest to do so, they certainly shouldn't be scoffed at for
> > choosing safe, light parts, (As Keith Bontrager once wrote, "Cheap. Light.
> > Strong. Pick two.") just as we don't mock someone who wants to run fully
> > fendered, racked and bagged all the time.  Me?  I'm kinda always banging
> > back and forth between those ideals, which, once again, is why Grant's
> > designs work so well - they allow you do continually tinker, hone and rerig
> > in the manner that works for you right now.
>
> > There are times when it's fun to see who is fastest, or if you can nick some
> > seconds off of a personal best time.  There are times when it's tremendous
> > to roll along among new and old friends.  Whatever causes the most smiles
> > per miles. I like to be the kind of person my dog thinks I am. I've been
> > paying attention at the dog park, and notice that they lay about, loaf
> > around, go flat-out-bat-outta-hell, carve crazy turns, get dirty, get out of
> > breath and do it all over again.  Which seems an appropriate goal for any
> > bike ride.
>
> > The other thing that Patrick touches upon has to do with climbing on
> > fixed-gear bicycles. It rocks. Utterly and completely. It hurts. Thoroughly
> > and deeply. This last week, I've been switching back and forth between the
> > Hilsen - a multi-geared and coastable setup - and the Quickbeam - which I
> > run fixed most of the time.   There's really no comparison. I can move up my
> > regular climbs at a decent clip on the Hilsen, but it always feels like
> > flyng (well, until you utterly, crushingly bonk) on the Quickbeam.  The
> > momentum of fixed gear systems is palpable.
>
> > all righty then... didn't mean to warble on at quite that length.
>
> >  - Jim
>
> > --
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> > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > ³Velvet pillows, safari parks, sunglasses: people have become woolly mice.
> > They still have bodies that can walk for five days and four nights through a
> > desert of snow, without food, but they accept praise for having taken a
> > one-hour bicycle ride.²  - Tim Krabbe, "The Rider"
>
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