I can speak to the virtues of both these gadgets, as I am using both to 
attach my Bruce Gordon racks to my Raleigh International. Bruce uses 
flat-steel rails to attach his rear rack, and advocates the better-grade 
Nitto P-clamps (and includes them with the new racks...but really, ecch. If 
I have a nicey-nice rack, I want the whole thing to look nice. So I 
replaced all the stock attachment widgets with Tubus rails/clamps/swivel 
mounts/extenders, and I'm much happier.

The sizing of the Tubus clamps is a little more appropriate to steel tubing 
- not like the "close enough" of P-clamps. I've had much more secure 
attachment since I went to the Tubus bits, and a lot less noise.

BikeBagShop.com also sells Tubus attachment bits. They have rotating 10% 
off specials on most of their product line throughout the year; Tubus and 
Ortlieb normally come up together, about 2-3 times a year.

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, January 5, 2015 8:15:52 PM UTC-8, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Beside P clamps, Tubus makes machined, aluminum fork leg clamps for front 
>> low riders designed for forks that don't have the needed braze ons. These 
>> are threaded both for the clamping bolts and for the racks. 
>>
>
>
> Nice! I like that option.  I see they also sell something like a 
> high-quality P-clamp:
>

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