I also use both types of Tubus clamps, and I really like them.  One
distinguishing feature:  each type can be left on the bike if the rack is
taken off.  They use separate bolts for the clamping and the rack mount, so
it's easy to remove and replace the rack.

I've used the mid-fork clamps on my Riv Road, but currently use both to
attach a Nitto Campee Classic (the one with detachable lowriders) to my
girlfriend's San Marcos.  She vastly prefers how the low panniers ride,
compared to a basket on a rack above the front wheel.

The Tubus mid-fork clamps are big and square (even more eccch than a
p-clamp).  But they definitely look more professional.  As with all clamps
on the frame, I protect with tape and innertube.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Peter Adler <divisi....@gmail.com> wrote:

> I can speak to the virtues of both these gadgets, as I am using both to
> attach my Bruce Gordon racks to my Raleigh International. Bruce uses
> flat-steel rails to attach his rear rack, and advocates the better-grade
> Nitto P-clamps (and includes them with the new racks...but really, ecch. If
> I have a nicey-nice rack, I want the whole thing to look nice. So I
> replaced all the stock attachment widgets with Tubus rails/clamps/swivel
> mounts/extenders, and I'm much happier.
>
> The sizing of the Tubus clamps is a little more appropriate to steel
> tubing - not like the "close enough" of P-clamps. I've had much more secure
> attachment since I went to the Tubus bits, and a lot less noise.
>
> BikeBagShop.com also sells Tubus attachment bits. They have rotating 10%
> off specials on most of their product line throughout the year; Tubus and
> Ortlieb normally come up together, about 2-3 times a year.
>
> Peter Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2015 8:15:52 PM UTC-8, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Beside P clamps, Tubus makes machined, aluminum fork leg clamps for
>>> front low riders designed for forks that don't have the needed braze ons.
>>> These are threaded both for the clamping bolts and for the racks.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nice! I like that option.  I see they also sell something like a
>> high-quality P-clamp:
>>
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