Good points, but I think all of these questions come about precisely because
the cost of the production Riv is now only slightly less than many full
customs. So if there isn't a tiny bit of flexibility on Riv's part, I would
think many potential buyers will be tempted to spend just a little more to
get a bike exactly as they want it by going full custom.

In other words, it was one thing to settle for a color you didn't quite like
or imperfect braze-ons when a f&f were $1500 or less, but at $2000 it's a
different game and set of mental calculations for the buyer.


> From: Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com>
> Reply-To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:47:32 -0400
> To: <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Press on BikeRadar.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 12:07 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
>> I'm not in the market for another bike, so any comments are simply
>> reflective of my own opinion.  It seems strange to me that Grant, who
>> was always an exponent of not using shifting components that required
>> "system compatibility" has agreed to spec the Roadeo so that its braze-
>> on's are only really useful with a shift integrated (e.g. Shimano)
>> system.
> 
> 
> They won't work with bar end shifters?
> 
> 
> 
>> I also find it perplexing that Rivendell, apparently, will not
>> accommodate a customer request to have downtube shifter bosses on the
>> frame.  This is not a cheap bicycle, $2,000 is a good chunk of
>> change.  Perhaps this lack of flexibility is reflective of what
>> Waterford is willing to accept.
> 
> 
> This is supposed to be a production bike, not a custom.  That pretty
> much precludes custom braze-ons, doesn't it?  Unless, of course, they're
> to be done post-production, the way I had the rack mounts relocated on
> my Saluki to fit the preferred location for the Berthoud front rack.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Finally, having only white available as a standard color (with an
>> upcharge of $300.00 for another color), strikes me as rather like
>> Henry Ford's options for the model T (any color available, as long as
>> it was black).
> 
> 
> Again, doesn't that match the realities of production processing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 



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