Doug:  I agree with the points you make.  I am just a tad frustrated
as the Roadeo is so close to a bike I have in mind - even the stock
colors - but for one missing option.  We dt people want in on the fun.

On Aug 28, 4:59 pm, Doug Van Cleve <dvancl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy folks.
>
> Three things about this thread are jumping out at me.  Other than both being
> steel road bikes, there isn't much similarity between the Pacer and the
> Roadeo (no offense intended to Seth :^).  I am 99% sure the Roadeo will take
> a much bigger tire, unless the Pacer has changed (it works with short reach
> brakes at the bottom of the slot or "standard" reach at the top of the
> slot).  Tig'ed in Taiwan of average butted steel vs. brazed in Wisconsin of
> much better than average steel is a HUGE difference.  Next, the Roadeo is
> "our answer to speedy carbon road bikes".  What percent of recently sold
> "speedy carbon road bikes" don't have integrated shifting of some sort?
> This isn't a Rambouillet replacement.  Lastly, you don't shop RBW bikes
> because they cheaper than alternatives (not including the Sam
> Hillborne/Betty Foy/Yves Gomez) or just because they're lugged.  You buy
> them because you like RBW and/or GP's designs...
>
> Whew!
> Doug
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Seth Vidal <skvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't the surly pacer take downtube shifters and won't it accomodate
> > 35mm tires? Sure seems like it might. Now, I know the surly is not
> > nearly as light as the roadeo will be but it's not TERRIBLE afaict.
>
> > -sv
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