Oups sorry I forgot to add that I managed to install it via Package browser, so maybe is a configuration issue
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 8:09 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > Dimitris, Ben and Phil, > > Thanks for your interest in Grafoscopio. I need to solve the issue with > installation at least on Pharo 5. I don't know what is working wrong and > need to understand better the ConfigurationOf stuff. Once I have it (soon) > I will be back with news about installing or questions about what is not > working. > Cheers, > > Offray > > > On 27/10/16 12:01, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > Absolutely , I am enjoying calling the way I work "parasitic coding" > mainly because I love to use/ take advantage/canibalize existing libraries, > languages and applications. > > Grafoscopio, Pillar, existing ProfStef, Morphic , whatever can help me > open a link in a web browser and anything else will be on my plate. Working > together is doable too. > > Unfortunately I cannot load your project in Pharo 6 > it complains when I use Gofer about an out of bounds problem, if I use > monticello at Loading ConfigurationOfGlamourCore-PabloTesone.152 gives > error about a missing quote. > > PRDocumentItemTest methodsFor: 'tests' stamp: 'lr 3/30Unmatched ' in > string literal. -> > > Grafoscopio is very good and thanks for reminding me I have completely > forgotten it , which means I will need to take a good look to see what else > is out there I can use. > > GUI wise, its quite different from what I imagined for my project so at > least that part I will have do , feature wise though it seems like you > covered many of my goals indeed though I will give a lot more close look in > a few and in the near future. > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:44 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas < > offray.l...@mutabit.com> wrote: > > Hi Dimitris, > > Goals 1 to 6 overlap with the ones Grafoscopio. Could you test it please > to see if we can work together in some way or Grafoscopio could work as a > foundation for your work? In that way we could break the lonely developer > reality for this one. > > Cheers, > > Offray > > On 27/10/16 09:00, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > > I decided to make a new version for ProfStef released under then name > "Pharo Live Tutorial". > > My goals are to: > 1) add to it a history panel, so the user can navigate to the part he > wants. > 2) group parts into chapters to make progress more clear > 3) break some parts to smaller parts to ensure smooth learning curve > 4) add it to the help section of the world menu , so it is far more > visible to the user > 5) link parts to relevant chapter and section of PBE5 (or any other > relevant book), so the user can easily access more detailed info in case he > wants to. > 6) Design the tool so it can accommodate multiple tutorials, each having > its own chapters and parts > 7) Design a GUI to navigate to tutorials > 8) Integrate it with GTSpotter so the user can easily find the information > he or she wants > 9) Integrate small challenge games to help the user test what he learned > and have fun at the same time, with ability to be awarded with a score in > terms of "levels" and of course badges for achievements ;) > 10) Provide an integrated blog (nothing fancy, just text) , for latest > news about pharo , this blog will be basically copying some of my blog > posts , to show to users that we are alive and kicking and not just an > almost dead project and of course advertise the hard work of many of my > fellow guardians of the light. > > PS: obviously references to Stef will remain and he will be credited as > author of the tutorial > > Can't promise when it will be ready and can't promise first version will > include all the above but this is the direction I want to go with this. > This live interactive tutorial will replace my video tutorials since they > are too hard to keep updated. > > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 3:04 PM Vitor Medina Cruz <vitormc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > *stepharo:* > > Why not pushing/improving > > either > UPBE > ProfStef > With the Mooc Counter example: In TWO MINUTES people get > something DONE a simple counter. > What else can it be. > > > I run the following experience during my lecture. I give 1 hour > presentation about pharo / vision / sneakpeek and ask them to watch the > counter > video and redo it and it works! > > > Indeed, you can. My opinion was in the lines of improving Profstef :) > > Mooc may be good in a class with a teacher for the student to take doubts, > but I find a little confusing for someone that finds it by its own in > pharo.org. > > I have some friends on the field, some are overseas (I am in Brazil) and > when the opportunity comes I talk about Smalltalk and Pharo and how good it > is, then: > > 1- Some get interested and asks for reference, I usually point to the > Proftef, the site and the PBE; > 2- Some are interested and we are close so I can I explain something > myself and show the environment, maybe pairing; > 3- Sometimes someone got interested and went to the pharo.org by itself > and I know of that only afterwards. > > In every situation people got confused :( > > The best time was 2, because I could explain better what was going on, but > usually people try by itself, and that don't went well. For example, some > report to me that had made the exercise from PBE and got really confused in > the end: what was that I was doing? Where are my classes again? Workspace? > Where is the code again? What happened? > > I think it is hard for someone that already internalize the concept of > image and self contained environment to understand why this confusion is > happening, but when you come to think about it that is not so strange > because people are used to files and all those crap static stuff, so it is > kind of a huge paradigm shift learning Pharo: it *is* confusing for them. > > But it seems to me that you are focusing more on fresh people, been teach > on classrooms and such, right now. That may be good, I am not sure if > people already in the industry can be cooped in enough size to be able to > improve Pharo community and use. > > On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:21 AM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr> wrote: > > funnily dale I read it like you wish :) > > > > Le 26/10/16 à 21:53, Dale Henrichs a écrit : > > > > On 10/26/16 12:13 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > > > Hi, > > On the issue of contributing to Free, Libre, Open Source Software (FLOSS) > projects, I have been reading recently Nadia Eghbal and her analysis that > confirm that most FLOSS projects are done by individuals and small teams, > which is contrary to the bazaar narrative. This comic shows the point: > > and you can find more details here: > https://medium.com/@nayafia/what-success-really-looks-like-in-open-source-2dd1facaf91c#.e360z53sf > > After skimming the actual article and finding that the points made in the > article are valid I would have wished that the right panel in the cartoon > had said "one more pull request before going to bed" since that is closer > to what the article is about ... an active, community that contributes is > also an important component and something that Pharo/Smalltalk community > does indeed have. > > Dale > > > > > >
