Dimitris, Ben and Phil,

Thanks for your interest in Grafoscopio. I need to solve the issue with installation at least on Pharo 5. I don't know what is working wrong and need to understand better the ConfigurationOf stuff. Once I have it (soon) I will be back with news about installing or questions about what is not working.

Cheers,

Offray

On 27/10/16 12:01, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
Absolutely , I am enjoying calling the way I work "parasitic coding" mainly because I love to use/ take advantage/canibalize existing libraries, languages and applications.

Grafoscopio, Pillar, existing ProfStef, Morphic , whatever can help me open a link in a web browser and anything else will be on my plate. Working together is doable too.

Unfortunately I cannot load your project in Pharo 6
it complains when I use Gofer about an out of bounds problem, if I use monticello at Loading ConfigurationOfGlamourCore-PabloTesone.152 gives error about a missing quote.

PRDocumentItemTest methodsFor: 'tests' stamp: 'lr 3/30Unmatched ' in string literal. ->

Grafoscopio is very good and thanks for reminding me I have completely forgotten it , which means I will need to take a good look to see what else is out there I can use.

GUI wise, its quite different from what I imagined for my project so at least that part I will have do , feature wise though it seems like you covered many of my goals indeed though I will give a lot more close look in a few and in the near future.

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 6:44 PM Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas <offray.l...@mutabit.com <mailto:offray.l...@mutabit.com>> wrote:

    Hi Dimitris,

    Goals 1 to 6 overlap with the ones Grafoscopio. Could you test it
    please to see if we can work together in some way or Grafoscopio
    could work as a foundation for your work? In that way we could
    break the lonely developer reality for this one.

    Cheers,

    Offray


    On 27/10/16 09:00, Dimitris Chloupis wrote:
    I decided to make a new version for ProfStef released under then
    name "Pharo Live Tutorial".

    My goals are to:
    1) add to it a history panel, so the user can navigate to the
    part he wants.
    2) group parts into chapters to make progress more clear
    3) break some parts to smaller parts to ensure smooth learning curve
    4) add it to the help section of the world menu , so it is far
    more visible to the user
    5) link parts to relevant chapter and section of PBE5 (or any
    other relevant book), so the user can easily access more detailed
    info in case he wants to.
    6) Design the tool so it can accommodate multiple tutorials, each
    having its own chapters and parts
    7) Design a GUI to navigate to tutorials
    8) Integrate it with GTSpotter so the user can easily find the
    information he or she wants
    9) Integrate small challenge games to help the user test what he
    learned and have fun at the same time, with ability to be awarded
    with a score in terms of "levels" and of course badges for
    achievements ;)
    10) Provide an integrated blog (nothing fancy, just text) , for
    latest news about pharo , this blog will be basically copying
    some of my blog posts , to show to users that we are alive and
    kicking and not just an almost dead project and of course
    advertise the hard work of many of my fellow guardians of the light.

    PS: obviously references to Stef will remain and he will be
    credited as author of the tutorial

    Can't promise when it will be ready and can't promise first
    version will include all the above but this is the direction I
    want to go with this.  This live interactive tutorial will
    replace my video tutorials since they are too hard to keep updated.


    On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 3:04 PM Vitor Medina Cruz
    <vitormc...@gmail.com <mailto:vitormc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        *stepharo:*

            Why not pushing/improving

                either
                    UPBE
                    ProfStef
                    With the Mooc Counter example: In TWO
            MINUTES people get something DONE a simple counter.
What else can it be.

            I run the following experience during my lecture. I give
            1 hour presentation about pharo / vision / sneakpeek and
            ask them to watch the counter
            video and redo it and it works!


        Indeed, you can. My opinion was in the lines of improving
        Profstef :)

        Mooc may be good in a class with a teacher for the student to
        take doubts, but I find a little confusing for someone that
        finds it by its own in pharo.org <http://pharo.org>.

        I have some friends on the field, some are overseas (I am in
        Brazil) and when the opportunity comes I talk about Smalltalk
        and Pharo and how good it is, then:

        1- Some get interested and asks for reference, I usually
        point to the Proftef, the site and the PBE;
        2- Some are interested and we are close so I can I explain
        something myself and show the environment, maybe pairing;
        3- Sometimes someone got interested and went to the pharo.org
        <http://pharo.org> by itself and I know of that only afterwards.

        In every situation people got confused :(

        The best time was 2, because I could explain better what was
        going on, but usually people try by itself, and that don't
        went well. For example, some report to me that had made the
        exercise from PBE and got really confused in the end: what
        was that I was doing? Where are my classes again? Workspace?
        Where is the code again? What happened?

        I think it is hard for someone that already internalize the
        concept of image and self contained environment to understand
        why this confusion is happening, but when you come to think
        about it that is not so strange because people are used to
        files and all those crap static stuff, so it is kind of a
        huge paradigm shift learning Pharo: it *is* confusing for them.

        But it seems to me that you are focusing more on fresh
        people, been teach on classrooms and such, right now. That
        may be good, I am not sure if people already in the industry
        can be cooped in enough size to be able to improve Pharo
        community and use.

        On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:21 AM, stepharo <steph...@free.fr
        <mailto:steph...@free.fr>> wrote:

            funnily dale I read it like you wish :)



            Le 26/10/16 à 21:53, Dale Henrichs a écrit :



            On 10/26/16 12:13 PM, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:


            Hi,

            On the issue of contributing to Free, Libre, Open
            Source Software (FLOSS) projects, I have been reading
            recently Nadia Eghbal and her analysis that confirm
            that most FLOSS projects are done by individuals and
            small teams, which is contrary to the bazaar narrative.
            This comic shows the point:

            and you can find more details here:
            
https://medium.com/@nayafia/what-success-really-looks-like-in-open-source-2dd1facaf91c#.e360z53sf

            After skimming the actual article and finding that the
            points made in the article are valid I would have wished
            that the right panel in the cartoon had said "one more
            pull request before going to bed" since that is closer
            to what the article is about ... an active, community
            that contributes is also an important component and
            something that Pharo/Smalltalk community does indeed have.

            Dale




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