If he only uses a default route then his outbound routing won’t have anything to do with what destinations are closer, etc
Aaron > On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > I guess first thing's first... you aren't doing anything to force the > traffic that way, are you? > > If you've got IPv6 deployed, chances are that no Google will be coming over > that Cogent. :-) > > CAIDA says Cogent is bigger. > > http://as-rank.caida.org/asns/174/as-core > http://as-rank.caida.org/asns/6939/as-core > > Being an eyeball network, what's going to impact that kind of usage the most > is where the next up connections to Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. > are located. If they're closer via HE than Cogent, that's where your traffic > will come from. > > Looking at your network specifically, Netflix isn't on either IX that you're > on, so that HE traffic very well could be a majority Netflix. > > What do your netflows say? > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.nordd...@gmail.com> > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:20:12 AM > Subject: Re: Whats going on at Cogent > > Is he.net smaller than Cogent? Over the past 24 hours we had 6.7 Gbps peak > from our HE link and 336 Mbps peak from our Cogent link. This is inbound > traffic. We are eyeballs and our outbound is a small fraction of our inbound. > > Regards. > > Baldur > > >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Dovid Bender <do...@telecurve.com> wrote: >> We have been very happy with HE. It was a no brainer over cogent. They are >> smaller (so are we). When there are issues they are real fast to fix them, >> you also get the personal touch which you don't get with others. >> >> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Eric Dugas <edu...@unknowndevice.ca> >>> wrote: >>> I don't really get the Cogent/Google peering issues. I've been hearing this >>> for years... How about fixing it already? Telling customer to get other >>> transit providers to get to a given network is really bad. >>> >>> On a side note, HE is still HE but they're trying really hard to be a good >>> netcitizen. They've finally pushed filtering for peers: >>> http://routing.he.net. I wouldn't get transit from them, but in some >>> markets, they're the only affordable IP transit providers. >>> >>> On Oct 16 2018, at 10:04 am, DaKnOb <daknob....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> When I call and mention it I’m told that it’s HE’s fault (despite the >>> lovely cake), but when I also bring Google, then they tell me to get a >>> different provider just for this traffic, or meet them at an IX and send my >>> traffic from there. >>> >>> About the staff rotation I’ve seen it too, and I’ve also seen an increase >>> in salespeople calling, for example when an AS is registered etc. in >>> addition to the normal calls.. >>> >>> On 16 Oct 2018, at 16:54, Dovid Bender <do...@telecurve.com> wrote: >>> >>> They call me every few months. the last time they emailed me I said I >>> wasn't interested because of the HE issue. I have yet to get another >>> email....... >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Ca By <cb.li...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:16 AM David Hubbard >>> <dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com> wrote: >>> Have had the same sales rep for several years now; unfortunately he has no >>> ability to fix their IPv6 peering issue so we’re slowly removing circuits, >>> but otherwise for a handful of 10gig DIA circuits it’s been stable. >>> >>> >>> >>> Yep, this. Whenever Cogent calls, this is what i tell them. Black-holing >>> HE and Google ipv6 traffic, which is what they do if i use a default route >>> from them, is dead on arrival. Shows they make bad decisions and dont put >>> the customer first, or even create such an illusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: NANOG <nanog-boun...@nanog.org> on behalf of Ryan Gelobter >>> <rya...@atwgpc.net> >>> Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 6:04 AM >>> To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> >>> Subject: Whats going on at Cogent >>> >>> Anyone else seen terrible support and high turnover of sales/account people >>> at Cogent the last few months? Is there something going on over there >>> internally? I'm sure some people will say Cogent has always been crap but >>> in the past their account reps and support were pretty good. It seems to >>> have gone downhill the last 12 months really bad. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ryan >
