If there is history about HE I should know before signing up with them I'd love to know off list.
If it's just between you and HE I hope it wasn't too bad, and I'd be happy to listen, but I don't feel like it's something you need to share at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > Cogent is bigger. > > HE is more widely peered, especially in IPv6. > > I may be somewhat prejudice, though I don’t work for HE any more. Most on > this list know the history so I won’t repeat it here. > > Owen > > > On Oct 21, 2018, at 05:39 , Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I guess first thing's first... you aren't doing anything to force the > traffic that way, are you? > > If you've got IPv6 deployed, chances are that no Google will be coming > over that Cogent. :-) > > CAIDA says Cogent is bigger. > > http://as-rank.caida.org/asns/174/as-core > http://as-rank.caida.org/asns/6939/as-core > > Being an eyeball network, what's going to impact that kind of usage the > most is where the next up connections to Netflix, Google, Akamai, > Cloudflare, etc. are located. If they're closer via HE than Cogent, that's > where your traffic will come from. > > Looking at your network specifically, Netflix isn't on either IX that > you're on, so that HE traffic very well could be a majority Netflix. > > What do your netflows say? > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Baldur Norddahl" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Sunday, October 21, 2018 3:20:12 AM > *Subject: *Re: Whats going on at Cogent > > Is he.net smaller than Cogent? Over the past 24 hours we had 6.7 Gbps > peak from our HE link and 336 Mbps peak from our Cogent link. This is > inbound traffic. We are eyeballs and our outbound is a small fraction of > our inbound. > > Regards. > > Baldur > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:17 PM Dovid Bender <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We have been very happy with HE. It was a no brainer over cogent. They >> are smaller (so are we). When there are issues they are real fast to fix >> them, you also get the personal touch which you don't get with others. >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Eric Dugas <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't really get the Cogent/Google peering issues. I've been hearing >>> this for years... How about fixing it already? Telling customer to get >>> other transit providers to get to a given network is really bad. >>> >>> On a side note, HE is still HE but they're trying really hard to be a >>> good netcitizen. They've finally pushed filtering for peers: >>> http://routing.he.net. I wouldn't get transit from them, but in some >>> markets, they're the only affordable IP transit providers. >>> >>> On Oct 16 2018, at 10:04 am, DaKnOb <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> When I call and mention it I’m told that it’s HE’s fault (despite the >>> lovely cake), but when I also bring Google, then they tell me to get a >>> different provider just for this traffic, or meet them at an IX and send my >>> traffic from there. >>> >>> About the staff rotation I’ve seen it too, and I’ve also seen an >>> increase in salespeople calling, for example when an AS is registered etc. >>> in addition to the normal calls.. >>> >>> On 16 Oct 2018, at 16:54, Dovid Bender <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> They call me every few months. the last time they emailed me I said I >>> wasn't interested because of the HE issue. I have yet to get another >>> email....... >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:29 AM, Ca By <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 5:16 AM David Hubbard < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Have had the same sales rep for several years now; unfortunately he has >>> no ability to fix their IPv6 peering issue so we’re slowly removing >>> circuits, but otherwise for a handful of 10gig DIA circuits it’s been >>> stable. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Yep, this. Whenever Cogent calls, this is what i tell them. >>> Black-holing HE and Google ipv6 traffic, which is what they do if i use a >>> default route from them, is dead on arrival. Shows they make bad decisions >>> and dont put the customer first, or even create such an illusion. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *NANOG <[email protected]> on behalf of Ryan Gelobter < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Date: *Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 6:04 AM >>> *To: *NANOG <[email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Whats going on at Cogent >>> >>> Anyone else seen terrible support and high turnover of sales/account >>> people at Cogent the last few months? Is there something going on over >>> there internally? I'm sure some people will say Cogent has always been crap >>> but in the past their account reps and support were pretty good. It seems >>> to have gone downhill the last 12 months really bad. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ryan >>> >>> >
