We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute. On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: > > On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a >>>> piece >>>> of paper every time! >>>> >>> >>> Can you please put these at the back of the line? My experience is that >>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual >>> troubleshooting skills. (or my standards of what defines “expert” are >>> different than the rest of the world). >>> >> >> Jared, don’t generalize. >> >> True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not >> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them >> didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting. >> > > 't > > We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter how > much we tried to train on the architecture. Eventually in one backbone > event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router > because "traceroute worked." When it was pointed out that the potential > fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look. We > then asked him to explain how traceroute worked. He spectacularly failed. > > It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question. What was boggling was the > number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics. > > My test, as crass as it is. If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am > pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience. If it's a > footnote somewhere, that's ok. > > Christopher > > > >> — >> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17 >> (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course) >> > > > -- > 李柯睿 > Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio > Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc > Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf > keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe >
