> On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote: > > >> On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <j...@op-sec.us> wrote: >> >> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a piece >> of paper every time! > > Can you please put these at the back of the line? My experience is that > the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual > troubleshooting skills. (or my standards of what defines “expert” are > different than the rest of the world).
Jared, don’t generalize. True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting. — CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17 (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
