I asked one of my guys to tracert in windows for something and he executed pathping. I have never seen that in 25 years.... Go figure!
James Laszko Mythos Technology Inc jam...@mythostech.com Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 5, 2015, at 18:40, Mike Hale <eyeronic.des...@gmail.com> wrote: > > We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute. >> On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <na...@cdl.asgaard.org> wrote: >> >> On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, Łukasz Bromirski wrote: >> >> On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <j...@op-sec.us> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a >>>>> piece >>>>> of paper every time! >>>> >>>> Can you please put these at the back of the line? My experience is that >>>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of actual >>>> troubleshooting skills. (or my standards of what defines “expert” are >>>> different than the rest of the world). >>> >>> Jared, don’t generalize. >>> >>> True - there are people that are ‘paper’ CCIE/JNCIEs - but let’s not >>> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them >>> didn’t know a jack. About troubleshooting. >> >> 't >> >> We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter how >> much we tried to train on the architecture. Eventually in one backbone >> event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router >> because "traceroute worked." When it was pointed out that the potential >> fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look. We >> then asked him to explain how traceroute worked. He spectacularly failed. >> >> It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question. What was boggling was the >> number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics. >> >> My test, as crass as it is. If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I am >> pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience. If it's a >> footnote somewhere, that's ok. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> >>> — >>> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17 >>> (not that I’d know anything about troubleshooting of course) >> >> >> -- >> 李柯睿 >> Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio >> Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc >> Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf >> keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe >>
