Michelle Sullivan wrote:
Seth Mattinen wrote:
You should still be able to submit a ticket to SORBS, no? I was
always under the impression that it was "open a ticket and wait or
you are moved to the back of the line" with SORBS.
That is correct on all counts.
Oh and to re-iterate a point made so many times in so many forums and so
often ignored. Posting to any of my email personal addresses will not
help your case at all.. ever.. in any way... and in fact posting to some
of the old and disused ones will likely cause a spamtrap listing. SORBS
Support is done through the SORBS support system (which is what it is
there fore funnily enough!) Posting on mailing lists, or emailing to
me, other SORBS staff, or GFI will result in various responses from
completely ignoring you to sending you a PDF that tells you that you can
only gain support through the SORBS support system - NO EXCEPTIONS. The
only thing my email address is valid for is if the SORBS Support system
is down for telling me such (and I have plenty of systems monitoring all
components of it so an email is pretty pointless in most cases.) Robot
rejection and refusal to delist is not a failure in the support
system... Read the response and act upon the contents if you want a review.
Sorry if that sounds harsh, but when you had seen even a couple of the
idiotic messages I get, you'll understand why. Logging a ticket is
simple if a little ownerous (it takes 7 clicks to get a ticket logged, 3
if you use the contact form!)
Michelle
PS: Here is an example or 5 of tickets logged in the support system
(unedited except for the last) and all in the queue that specifically
states "do not send listing or delisting requests here"...
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Name: Yiannos Efthymiou
Company: AT Multitech Corporation
Type: company
Primary OS: windows
Skill Level: admin
DB:
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Yes a windows admin logged a support ticket with no IP address or
domain, or well.. anything...
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Name: Andrzej Wojciechowski
Type: person
Primary OS: windows
Skill Level: luser
DB:
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And another .. these are the total contents of the tickets (email
addresses are stored in the headers which I haven't reproduced for
privacy...
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Name: german perez
Company: roulette partners s.a.
Type: company
Primary OS: unix
Skill Level: admin
DB:
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Number 3.. ok now I'm going to skip down tickets until I find something
other than just the auto-inserted stuff...
This one logged no less than 3 of the same tickets...
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Name: Danilo Jaramillo
Company: sistemas inalambricos
Type: company
Primary OS: unix
Skill Level: admin
DB:
Additional Information:
why if the ip it's not used, you do not delist automatically???
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... thought: "If it is not used how did it get listed in the first
place?...and another...
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Name: Vladimir Goloshchuk
Type: na
Primary OS: windows
Skill Level: admin
DB:
Additional Information:
Our ip used to be listed in more than 10 blacklists due to the spam
breaks. We have cleaned our system and most of email blacklist databases
have white listed us. There are only 3 databases left that still have
our IP blacklisted. your database is one of them. Please white list our
IP as email is a vital part of our customers business and this prevents
from sending/receiving legitimate emails with other clients.
Regards,
Vladimir
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Each of these have gone to http://www.sorbs.net/cgi-bin/support and
clicked "No" to the question "Do you need help or support about a
listing, delisting, or blocked IP address?" (it defaults to "Yes")*
*
They have also clicked through the following text:
Please Note: Logging a support ticket about a listing using this form
will result in nothing happening; you will not receive a reply from the
support staff; nor will the request result in a listing or delisting.
This form is for all the requests other than those for listing and
delisting addresses, domains or mail servers.
We also receive delisting request via the same method....
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*Name: Chris ******
Company: ******** Communications
Type: company
Primary OS: windows
Skill Level: admin
DB:
Additional Information:
We currentlym have a router with in our network that has its NAT listed
with you. We have recently taken steps to elimanate this probelm. The
IPs in question are within this subnet 24.***.***.225/29. Please let me
know if we could have these delisted.
Best Regards,
Chris ********
***** Communications Inc.
***-***-****
**...@******.ca
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This one I did edit to remove the identifying details. It's obvious the
person speaks English, so there is not the defense that they didn't
understand the "STOP" sign or the text I have already posted.
NO I DO NOT ACCEPT DELISTING REQUESTS OUT OF THE SUPPORT SYSTEM!
Michelle
